I tried RockPlayer Lite and some other players in the market but none work.
Please help.
vitalplayer?
Try doubletwist. Plays mp4
junks2010 said:
I tried RockPlayer Lite and some other players in the market but none work.
Please help.
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It's not really just a question of what player - it's a question of what 1080p mp4 files too. Tegra 2 is extremely limited in what it will play back in a 1080p mp4 so how the mp4 is encoded matters as well. I think I read somewhere that it's baseline profile only...and that's with hardware acceleration. Software only, I'm guessing that no file of that size will play - it's too many pixels to push around.
And Rockplayer is my mp4 player of choice (to the extent I actually registered for it to get rid of the ads and the R). In hardware mode, it doesn't bat an eye at my 720p mp4s in main profile.
Judo Jeff said:
It's not really just a question of what player - it's a question of what 1080p mp4 files too. Tegra 2 is extremely limited in what it will play back in a 1080p mp4 so how the mp4 is encoded matters as well. I think I read somewhere that it's baseline profile only...and that's with hardware acceleration. Software only, I'm guessing that no file of that size will play - it's too many pixels to push around.
And Rockplayer is my mp4 player of choice (to the extent I actually registered for it to get rid of the ads and the R). In hardware mode, it doesn't bat an eye at my 720p mp4s in main profile.
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x2. If the 1080p video is encoded the right way, even the vanilla player will play it.
I've been using h263 1080p / 720p MP4's and they work well. Even some MKV's will work with the vanilla player, if encoded a certain way.
roebeet said:
x2. If the 1080p video is encoded the right way, even the vanilla player will play it.
I've been using h263 1080p / 720p MP4's and they work well. Even some MKV's will work with the vanilla player, if encoded a certain way.
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Any luck getting h264 1080p to play? Any specific software you recommend to convert files to appropriate encoding?
I've had success in the past doing it and watching 1080p .mov movie trailers but haven't done so since I've upgraded to TnTLite 5.0. I would recommend Handbrake for encoding and then playing with it. From using Mediainfo on them, I think they were Level 4.1 main profile with 2 reference frames, no Cabac.
I found this on fudzilla from google (I can provide a link if needed)
First of them is H.264 with sub standards Baseline Profile (B frames) — 1080p/20Mbps, Main Profile (B Frames, CAVLC) — 1080p, Main Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction) — 720p/6Mbps and High Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction).
Tegra 2 also supports High Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction), MPEG-4 (Simple, B frames and ASP Profiles) — 1080p/8Mbps, H.263 (Profile 0) — 720×576/4Mbps, DiVX (DiVX 4/5) — 1080p/8Mbps, XviD (XviD Home Theater) — 1080p/8Mbps, MPEG-2 (Main Profile @ Main Level) — 720×576/10Mbps, VP6 (simple and advanced profile) — 720p30/2Mbps, Sorenson (simple and advanced profile) — 720×576/4Mbps, JPEG up to 80 Mpixel per second.
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Caveat - 1080p encoding is slow and the files are big. Unless you are doing 1080p encoding for some other purpose, I wouldn't do it just to play on the G-Tab. It really seems to be stretching the limits of the technology. I prefer to do a really good quality 720p encode instead. They look equally good on the G-Tab at a smaller file size - and on a 60" plasma I still can't tell that they're worse. I had floated my encode parameters for handbrake somewhere back in this section.
vitalplayer, vanilla player? What is better, what supports more formats and it is more convenient?
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vitalplayer, vanilla player? What is better, what supports more formats and it is more convenient?
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The only luck I've had with hardware accelerated video (the high-def stuff) is Rockplayer or vanilla player. Don't like the lack of file browsing you get with the vanilla player. You can get around that by using a file explorer to open your videos instead of the gallery.
I have a couple of mkvs that Rockplayer won't play (SD ones at that), so maybe an experiment is in order!
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hi, anyone watch movies and that on thier phone? just wondering what the optimum video size would be to get a good picture and make it less flickery! and the best programs to use to convert the size of the movie?
Cheers
Hon
anyone?? surely someone must know??
Streaming or stored video files, basically you can use the same parameters and the same tools. I describe streaming only.
Use VLC to stream the video via Wifi or Edge to your phone.
An excellent client is Coreplayer (only 20 bucks)
On VLC set transcoding params like this:
video codec: mpeg4 (alternatively you could use h264)
video bitrate: 300-400kbs (wifi) ; 100-200kbs (edge)
resolution 320x240
audio codec: mp3
audio bitrate: 48-64kbs
container: ts (transport stream)
VLC can stream everything including live TV from TV/Sat cards and also from settop boxes.
If you wonna play files from memstick transcode your videos to files with the wifi parameters.
i used TCPMP with my vox oc'd to 252mhz
it can play most videos stored on my mSD (tv. eps and things of that sort) without having to convert
if i do need to convert, just make sure it's at 320x240
sorry i didnt specify, it is stored movies. cheers
A friend is considering this phone as an upgrade and I'm also interested in finding out about how good video playback on this phone works. Can you install freeware codec packs to support DivX, Xvid and all the other common formats on it like you can with the bigger PDA-style phones? Is its CPU speed enough for it to decode the videos without stutter? Is its built-in player good enough or would I need a third-party app?
I tried it. I think the optimum is Divx or Mpeg4, 320*240 and 512 kbit/s with 44 khz stereo audio. It can be played more than 100 % speed. (TCPMP benchmark).
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A friend is considering this phone as an upgrade and I'm also interested in finding out about how good video playback on this phone works. Can you install freeware codec packs to support DivX, Xvid and all the other common formats on it like you can with the bigger PDA-style phones? Is its CPU speed enough for it to decode the videos without stutter? Is its built-in player good enough or would I need a third-party app?
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Depends. If you don't use H/264 / AVC, then, it'll work just great. With AVC, you'll need to stick to CorePlayer and not even then will you 100% frame rate with higher bit rates / resolutions.
I did a tutorial on this
search for "Video Recoding Tutorial - Video Settings" in this forum
Hello Guys,
I have used both Vegant and Latest TNT 2.2 and both lag while I play 720P .mp4 encoded videos downloaded from youTube, I'd like to know if its a software or hardware limitation? Does anyone else have the same problem with 720 .mp4 files from youtube? Does it lag (as in audio and video lose sync - audio plays faster than video).
ive incoded some 1080p bluerays using handbrake normal preset H.264. container mp4 also had to do this with 1080p .mkv files couldn't even get them to play otherwise. after that they played great on my tablet
The Tegra 2 chipset cannot handle h264 encoded as high profile. Main profile works fine. I know this confuses some people, but grab the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and you can see how your file is encoded.
MP4 containers seem to work best, although I believe Rockplayer can play MKV's with hardware acceleration.
We just got a Asus Transformer, and it's pretty cool ... mostly.
One problem I've seen is that the HD Movie playback is really choppy. I ripped my copy of Planet Earth, and ran one of the M2TS files through FreeMake to create an Apple TV H.264 / AAC MP4 video file.
When playing back on the Transformer Media player, the playback is really poor (unusable, actually). Is the Tegra2 embedded GPU enabled in the player? If "yes", I'm pretty disappointed. (Who makes the Asus player?)
If "no", is there a free player / update that enables the hardware decoding?
Thanks,
¿GotJazz?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1071722
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058371
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1072006
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
Enjoy!
Pretty much the video playing is limited to low profile for now.
We're all hoping that Honeycomb 3.1 fixes it, although some people are convinced it's the Tegra 2 processor and cannot be fixed by software.
(Hope they're wrong! )
buri73 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1071722
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058371
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1072006
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
Enjoy!
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Thanks! Good reading there.
While searching XDA before I saw your response, I found that some folks were using RockPlayer. However, now it looks like I may want to check out MoboPlayer, too.
Cheers,
¿GotJazz?
I just tried Moboplayer and Rock Player, both with Tegra2 hardware acceleration enabled.
From what I saw, Rock Player handled my HD content better. There were audio drop-outs in Moboplayer, and the playback was a little jerkier.
Rock Player wasn't ideal, though: While it played the content better without the audio dropping, the FPS display was averaging 10->11 FPS, though it was significantly smoother than Moboplayer.
¿GotJazz?
Tegra 2 CAN handle high profile 720p, it CANNOT handle high profile 1080p. However as stated honeycomb or tegra 2 drivers need an update.
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I just tried Moboplayer and Rock Player, both with Tegra2 hardware acceleration enabled.
From what I saw, Rock Player handled my HD content better. There were audio drop-outs in Moboplayer, and the playback was a little jerkier.
Rock Player wasn't ideal, though: While it played the content better without the audio dropping, the FPS display was averaging 10->11 FPS, though it was significantly smoother than Moboplayer.
¿GotJazz?
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There is no hardware acceleration in either of these apps. There is only software rendering (with the code optimised for the Tegra2 Arm core) or a thin layer over the default movie player. One or the other.
And the official specs for the Tegra2 SOC stated no ability to play HD h.264 high profile. We are currently prevented from playing Main profile as well and that _may_ be fixed but it's very unlikely that it will ever do High profile.
And no app will ever solve that, they just don't have enough access to the hardware.
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Tegra 2 CAN handle high profile 720p, it CANNOT handle high profile 1080p. However as stated honeycomb or tegra 2 drivers need an update.
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I believe I was mistaken when I stated that the Tegra2 SOC can handle 720p High profile (if you got that info from me), my error was due to poor formatting on the document
I read this:
H.264 with sub standards Baseline Profile (B frames) — 1080p/20Mbps, Main Profile (B Frames, CAVLC) — 1080p, Main Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction) — 720p/6Mbps and High Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction)..
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I saw: "720p/6Mbps and High Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction)"
Unfortunatly I've recently seen this correctly formatted, its:
H.264 with sub standards Baseline Profile (B frames) — 1080p/20Mbps,
Main Profile (B Frames, CAVLC) — 1080p,
Main Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction) — 720p/6Mbps and
High Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction).
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No 720p stated for High profile, doesn't mean it can't do it. But it's never been stated (Other than by me )
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There is no hardware acceleration in either of these apps. There is only software rendering (with the code optimised for the Tegra2 Arm core) or a thin layer over the default movie player. One or the other.
And the official specs for the Tegra2 SOC stated _no_ ability to play HD h.264 high profile. We are currently prevented from playing Main profile as well and that _may_ be fixed but it's very unlikely that it will ever do High profile.
And no app will ever solve that, they just don't have enough access to the hardware.
I believe I was mistaken when I stated this (if you got that info from me), my error was due to poor formatting on the document
I read this:
I saw: "720p/6Mbps and High Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction)"
Unfortunatly I've recently seen this correctly formatted, its:
No 720p stated for High profile, doesn't mean it can't do it. But it's never been stated (Other than by me )
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http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/video-stutter-720p-main-profile
There's other sources as well, it's just honeycomb since we can't even get 1080p to work in main profile.
seshmaru said:
http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/video-stutter-720p-main-profile
There's other sources as well, it's just honeycomb since we can't even get 1080p to work in main profile.
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I was talking about High profile, I stand by my previous statement that the SOC can handle 720p Main (and 1080p Main using CAVLC rather than CABAC) even if the current honeycomb binaries don't let us.
What is interesting is that you should be able to switch between CAVLC and CABAC losslessly without re-encoding (Something akin to re-muxing) but there are currently no tools to do this.
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There is no hardware acceleration in either of these apps. There is only software rendering (with the code optimised for the Tegra2 Arm core) or a thin layer over the default movie player. One or the other.
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Silent Mobius: I'm not disagreeing with you (since I don't have the detailed experience), but before playing the movie, RockPlayer v1.7.2 had a pop-up that asked whether I wanted to use "Hardware Decoding" or "Software Decoding". I saw a big difference in playback between the two options.
Is RockPlayer mis-representing their functionality?
Also, is there any way for me to know if I am using "High Profile" encoding in my MP4 encoded file?
I basically used the default settings in FreeMake for AppleTV format.
I use handbrake to re-encode all my HD movies. I followed the thread below and everything plays perfectly. Yea, it kind of sucks to have to do this but it beats the alternative.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825&highlight=handbrake
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a pop-up that asked whether I wanted to use "Hardware Decoding"
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"...a thin layer over the default movie player"
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or "Software Decoding". I saw a big difference in playback between the two options.
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"Software rendering (with the code optimised for the Tegra2 Arm core)"
The default Movie player simply wraps the "MediaPlayer" object any time rockplayer/moboplayer mentions "Hardware acceleration" they are talking about use of this object.
Now it is possible that the default media player does a little extra filtering (for example just flatly refusing to play any main profile video) rather than letting the MediaPlayer object decide, its also possible that overlays and cruft could make one of the two (mainly fortware) players play with varying frame rates when just reusing the MediaPlayer object. I'll knock up a _very_ bare bones media player app tonight to see if will play main profile.
To see what your encoding is coming out of I recommend getting a copy of MP4Box it provides the most useful information
Hi again all!
I have some DVDs of television episodes that I want to watch on my Transformer.
I am going to use Freemake to 'rip' the DVD into individual episodes and I was wondering what the best settings to use would be? (e.g. bit rate, frame size, audio settings, etc.)
I had a few .AVI videos that I copied over and played but unfortunately the video was REALLY laggy (the sound was not synched up with the voice, especially noticeable watching people talk).
Hopefully things will be better when I create the videos with the correct target platform in mind.
J
For 720p h.264 videos use a baseline profile at level 3.1. For lower resolution (dvd resolution) you can use main profile at level 3.1. Honeycomb 3.1 is almost here and the performance are better.
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For 720p h.264 videos use a baseline profile at level 3.1. For lower resolution (dvd resolution) you can use main profile at level 3.1. Honeycomb 3.1 is almost here and the performance are better.
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wow thats above my head! i will try to figure out what you are saying unless you want to explain more
thank you!
I use Mediacoder for encode my dvd. I set h.264 with main profile at level 3.1. 2Mb for video bandwith and aac-lc for audio format. Then i choose MP4 container and that's all.
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I use Mediacoder for encode my dvd. I set h.264 with main profile at level 3.1. 2Mb for video bandwith and aac-lc for audio format. Then i choose MP4 container and that's all.
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great thank you again!
Is this phone powerful enough to play Full HD videos? 1080p?
If it is, could you play smoothly YouTube 1080p rips? High bit rate .mkv files?
And what player you use for full HD playback?
dont think it will... altough i can play 720p mkv very smoothly with Diceplayer !! did test a couple 1080p which wasnt that smooth....altough i heard that converting into .mp4 results into much better playback because of native support
Of course it can play 1080p videos.
Using the standard Gallery, it can play the 1080p videos that the camcorder records, and it can (so far) play any 1080p MP4 video that I put on the SD-Card or stream from my media server.
There will be some file formats that it won't play, of course, but that's a problem with the format rather than the resolution.
It will also play 1080p MP4 videos through my Sony Bravia TV via DLNA.
abuserkadayf, sjgore, thank you.
sjgore, I see you got HTC Desire too. And it have trouble playing some 720p mkv, never been able to make it play any 1080p. MoboPlayer is the best all around player from point of format support, speed and UI. But there is like a dozen players that based on FFmpeg library around(VPlayer, QQplayer, VitalPlayer, RockPlayer etc...). Was wondering if new generation of hardware is able to support 1080p to the point that there is no need to **** mind about how fast particular video player and choose one solely based on convenience of use and price...
Never tried 1080p on my Desire. 720p was fine, including 720p videos taken using the camcorder in CM6 (720p wasn't in CM7 for some reason).
I haven't even tried any 3rd party players from the Market on the Sensation yet, everything so far has been achieved with what comes built into the phone (ie. just Gallery).
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Never tried 1080p on my Desire. 720p was fine, including 720p videos taken using the camcorder in CM6 (720p wasn't in CM7 for some reason).
I haven't even tried any 3rd party players from the Market on the Sensation yet, everything so far has been achieved with what comes built into the phone (ie. just Gallery).
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Camcorder 720p clip are H.264 720p Baseline. 1st gen. snapdradon ( QSD8260 ) can play 720p Baseline profile.
but most of 720p/1080p movies are H.264 High profile level 3~5.
If file format is MP4(H.264+AAC), stock player can play .
Many of HD movies are MKV/AVI format and audio codec is AC-3(5.1ch) or DTS or Flac.
ffmpeg base player can not play HD ( 720p/1080p ). Decoding & rendering need too much CPU power.
If you want to play HD(with DTS/AC-3/FLAC + MKV/AVI) clips, use diceplayer.