Hi,
BSPlayer realease his software for Android.
Pro :
Real HW decoder for most formats (even 1080 files)
Gallery - like browing, including panorama
Video playlist
Timer to shutdown the player...
Cons
Doenst support Dock media's key (play/pause)
For seeking, you must use the slider, if not, it revert to begining
PS : I have mobo player and mx player, even files thoses to last cant play, BSplayer play them smooooooothly
You have to download also the ARMv7 plugin
Have a try, it's free (ads)
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bsplayer.bsplayeran.cpu.armv7v&feature=search_result
Posted aggain? Oh, well.
Still... Nothing can play 1080p :'( !!
Really disappointed !! Galaxy S II and Galaxy Note both can play 1080p but transformer doesn't...
It's supporting Videplayback over SMB. Sry Diceplacer but this is a must have for me.
xMini said:
Still... Nothing can play 1080p :'( !!
Really disappointed !! Galaxy S II and Galaxy Note both can play 1080p but transformer doesn't...
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It's Tegra 2 fault.
xMini said:
Still... Nothing can play 1080p :'( !!
Really disappointed !! Galaxy S II and Galaxy Note both can play 1080p but transformer doesn't...
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I disagree. All of my movies are ripped straight from Blu-ray and are 1080p and play via MX player or Dice Player.
The best video player is stock. The smoothness cannot be beat by any 3rd party video player. I've tried MX and Dice and they are only as good or worse than the stock player. The only reason to use a 3rd party video app is if you want the extra UI features or if you are unwilling to transcode/remux MKV to MP4.
Anyone who tells you that DicePlayer/MX Video/BS Player can play any 720p MKV they throw at it is probably watching some pirated movie with crappy warez scene encode settings. I have quite a few 720p MKV/MP4 movies that are unwatchable using the stock player because they stutter so much. The revered DicePlayer is even worse than stock with these movies, and so is MX and BS.
Don't get your hopes up.
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AcIdC0R3 said:
I disagree. All of my movies are ripped straight from Blu-ray and are 1080p and play via MX player or Dice Player.
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I am tired of hearing people imply that MX Video Player or DicePlayer are responsible for successful playback of their movies. If your files are MP4 (which can easily be converted from MKV using VidsOpt), they will play as good and usually better with the STOCK PLAYER.
Also, what encode settings did you use and what is the average bitrate of the movie? I doubt the encode is transparent. It'd be interesting to see a source>encode screenshot comparison.
it doesnt even start to play .mkv so its worthless. Sure would be nice to have a great mkv player.
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The best video player is stock. The smoothness cannot be beat by any 3rd party video player. I've tried MX and Dice and they are only as good or worse than the stock player. The only reason to use a 3rd party video app is if you want the extra UI features or if you are unwilling to transcode/remux MKV to MP4.
Anyone who tells you that DicePlayer/MX Video/BS Player can play any 720p MKV they throw at it is probably watching some pirated movie with crappy warez scene encode settings. I have quite a few 720p MKV/MP4 movies that are unwatchable using the stock player because they stutter so much. The revered DicePlayer is even worse than stock with these movies, and so is MX and BS.
Don't get your hopes up.
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I am tired of hearing people imply that MX Video Player or DicePlayer are responsible for successful playback of their movies. If your files are MP4 (which can easily be converted from MKV using VidsOpt), they will play as good and usually better with the STOCK PLAYER.
Also, what encode settings did you use and what is the average bitrate of the movie? I doubt the encode is transparent. It'd be interesting to see a source>encode screenshot comparison.
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Despite what your tired of hearing MX Player plays videos better than the stock player IMO but that's just me. That's what's nice about visiting the market is that you can find apps that are better and better than the last including stock for all facets of the tablet. Just like IMO ADWLauncher EX is better than the stock launcher. It's just the order of things and how they work. If you prefer stock player over all others than by all means. Everybody has what's good for them and you go with it.
I don't understand. First you say that the stock video player is the best;
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The best video player is stock. The smoothness cannot be beat by any 3rd party video player. I've tried MX and Dice and they are only as good or worse than the stock player. The only reason to use a 3rd party video app is if you want the extra UI features or if you are unwilling to transcode/remux MKV to MP4.
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...and then you say this in the same post
I have quite a few 720p MKV/MP4 movies that are unwatchable using the stock player because they stutter so much.
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You make no sense here.
The stock video player has terrible codec support. For a high-powered device like the TF101, I shouldn't have to transcode my files to a very specific format just to get the stock player to play them.
Personally, I use VLC. A pre-alpha version was released a couple of months back, and it's great. It plays every video file I've thrown at it and doesn't stutter at all.
Can you link the apk for the VLC you're using? I found a "noneon" build of it on this site, and the playback is absolutely horrendous. It is far, far worse than the stock player. Is this the same compile you are using? These are the specs of the video I used:
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 8.66 GiB
Duration : 2h 30mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 8 242 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-11-10 00:10:38
Tagged date : UTC 2011-11-10 00:10:38
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 12 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2h 30mn
Bit rate : 8 072 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 19.8 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.365
Stream size : 8.48 GiB (98%)
Title : VidsOpt_0.1.5
Writing library : x264 core 68 r1183M f21daff
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=12 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=esa / subme=9 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=8072 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=50000 / vbv_bufsize=50000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2011-11-10 00:10:38
Tagged date : UTC 2011-11-10 00:17:10
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 2h 30mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 168 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 250 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 180 MiB (2%)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-11-10 00:16:58
Tagged date : UTC 2011-11-10 00:17:10
really? That's the same build I'm using and I'm finding it perfectly fine. Weird.
Thanks for the heads up on BS player. Indeed it is playing most of the 720p content off my server without issues, I say just above Dice Player and what makes it better than Dice is it is FREE. The interface is fugly like some highschool kid with crayons but who cares as long as the decoding engine works. For some reason MX player never plays anything off my network but plays local content good, strange.
Got rid of Dice, will probably delete Mobo player and rock as well, too many players . . . .
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Don't sweat it, he's just trolling because it's better than what he's getting and he uses the stock player which is sub-par to MX or Dice players. So far I've seen what his settings are and mine are better so he feels he has to troll. Go home troll.
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Your encode settings suck, that's why you aren't experiencing the issues that I am. I care about transparency, and you, for whatever reason, obviously do not. You could really tell you knew what you were doing when you called your 1080x800 encode 1080p. 1080p is at least 1920x800...you are missing several hundred lines of resolution. Please, post some source vs encode screenshots. You can do this with VLC Media Player by pressing Ctrl-Alt-S.
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Your encode settings suck, that's why you aren't experiencing the issues that I am. I care about transparency, and you, for whatever reason, obviously do not. You could really tell you knew what you were doing when you called your 1080x800 encode 1080p. 1080p is at least 1920x800...you are missing several hundred lines of resolution. Please, post some source vs encode screenshots. You can do this with VLC Media Player by pressing Ctrl-Alt-S.
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Evidently you don't have your game on when it comes to getting your settings correct since you seem to be having issues and I don't. You're trying to make your TF perform beyond it's specifications. As I said before those were my old settings and as I now use DVD Catalyst with higher bitrates that I have even higher quality videos as I did before. If you would stop hating for a moment and actually read the posts that people place maybe you would learn something.
Sometimes the best thing to do is go back to what works and make your way from there. HERE is a post that has a guide that should get you to making decent videos for the TF.
Good luck.
I know that I am pushing the limits of the TF, but this is so I can achieve transparency of my encode to the source. We are approaching this from two different directions. I am more concerned about transparency and you are more concerned about being within the TF's playback specs while sacrificing quality. If you would look at a source vs encode screenshot comparison you would see this. My point still stands that the stock player is better than MX/Dice/BS for transparent videos that push the TF's limits with high quality encode settings.
If you transcode, then you're already sacrificing quality. We're dealing with lossy formats here.
If you also have to hard-mux the subs, then loss of quality is just staggering.
More on topic, BSplayer introduced their own hardware decoding engine in newest release and it's now on par with DICE player (and noticeably ahead of stock player hardware decode and all other crap players that use it (MX, etc.). It also have better subtitle compatibility.
Sadly, seeking implementation is very bad (to put it kindly) and it still lacks subtitle correction due to framedrops, so that occasional framedrops will cause your subs drift out of sync.
hey, im trying bsplayer with some 720p files and works great. the only problem is that when doing hdmi tv out the subtitles show in the tablet but not in the tv. anyone having same issue?
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i think it has something to do with overlay and last ota updates... dice player is doing the same. didnt have this problem before.
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hey, im trying bsplayer with some 720p files and works great. the only problem is that when doing hdmi tv out the subtitles show in the tablet but not in the tv. anyone having same issue?
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It happens when you use hardware decoding, if you turn it to software the subtitles show up but the video plays slow .. PM me if you find a solution please !
people should stop doing this. the stock player is fine when playing supported format. but what other ppl want is a player that play mkv files smoothly. till now, only dice player does it well, and I say this because tested it myself.
Newest BSPlayer is as good as DICE (builds from nov2011 and above). Test it out.
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hi, anyone watch movies and that on thier phone? just wondering what the optimum video size would be to get a good picture and make it less flickery! and the best programs to use to convert the size of the movie?
Cheers
Hon
anyone?? surely someone must know??
Streaming or stored video files, basically you can use the same parameters and the same tools. I describe streaming only.
Use VLC to stream the video via Wifi or Edge to your phone.
An excellent client is Coreplayer (only 20 bucks)
On VLC set transcoding params like this:
video codec: mpeg4 (alternatively you could use h264)
video bitrate: 300-400kbs (wifi) ; 100-200kbs (edge)
resolution 320x240
audio codec: mp3
audio bitrate: 48-64kbs
container: ts (transport stream)
VLC can stream everything including live TV from TV/Sat cards and also from settop boxes.
If you wonna play files from memstick transcode your videos to files with the wifi parameters.
i used TCPMP with my vox oc'd to 252mhz
it can play most videos stored on my mSD (tv. eps and things of that sort) without having to convert
if i do need to convert, just make sure it's at 320x240
sorry i didnt specify, it is stored movies. cheers
A friend is considering this phone as an upgrade and I'm also interested in finding out about how good video playback on this phone works. Can you install freeware codec packs to support DivX, Xvid and all the other common formats on it like you can with the bigger PDA-style phones? Is its CPU speed enough for it to decode the videos without stutter? Is its built-in player good enough or would I need a third-party app?
I tried it. I think the optimum is Divx or Mpeg4, 320*240 and 512 kbit/s with 44 khz stereo audio. It can be played more than 100 % speed. (TCPMP benchmark).
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A friend is considering this phone as an upgrade and I'm also interested in finding out about how good video playback on this phone works. Can you install freeware codec packs to support DivX, Xvid and all the other common formats on it like you can with the bigger PDA-style phones? Is its CPU speed enough for it to decode the videos without stutter? Is its built-in player good enough or would I need a third-party app?
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Depends. If you don't use H/264 / AVC, then, it'll work just great. With AVC, you'll need to stick to CorePlayer and not even then will you 100% frame rate with higher bit rates / resolutions.
I did a tutorial on this
search for "Video Recoding Tutorial - Video Settings" in this forum
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Found a very nice video player, it can't do full 720p mkv's but it's just a matter of cpu and such, it can play them just at 5fps lol
i'm trying to put on a 700mb avi and a vob to check if they work, a smaller(300mb) avi works excellent!
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forgot the file, oops.
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It plays large avi's just fine, and it "plays" vob's, only problem is that it can't cache the vob to play it so it will only play the first 5sec
Original thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6746765#post6746765
mrono said:
Found a very nice video player, it can't do full 720p mkv's but it's just a matter of cpu and such, it can play them just at 5fps lol
i'm trying to put on a 700mb avi and a vob to check if they work, a smaller(300mb) avi works excellent!
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forgot the file, oops.
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It plays large avi's just fine, and it "plays" vob's, only problem is that it can't cache the vob to play it so it will only play the first 5sec
Original thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6746765#post6746765
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wont install, get an error, "There is a problem parsing the package."
This worked great for me. I have been looking for a player that would play the various file types I have and so far this seems to work great on the EVO.
Thanks for the link! I love that it will stretch video to fit the full screen, perfect.
I'm encoding all my video with a maximum of 480 horizontal resolution, seems to play back well at this rate.
movie:
MKV
H264 High profile, 720x304 @ 405Kbps @ 24FPS
AAC, 44.1KHz
perfect quality
14 to 20 FPS
tv show:
AVI
DivX 5, 704x384 @ 1,097Kbps @ 24 FPS
MP3, 48KHz @ 128Kbps
perfect quality
22 - 24 FPS
anime:
MKV
H264 High profile, 848x480 @ 302Kbps @ 24FPS
AAC, 48KHz
lots of artifacts
no subs (ASS, Advanced Sub Station)
8 to 15 FPS
handbrake:
MP4
H264 Baseline profile, 800x448 @ 3,120Kbps @ 30 FPS
AAC, 44.1KHz @ 151 Kbps
perfect quality
13 to 16 FPS
Artbeats 720p HD Demo:
MP4
H264 Main profile, 1280x720 @ 5,994Kbps @ 30 FPS
AAC, 44.1KHz @ 66Kbps
perfect quality
3 to 6 FPS
Artbeats 1080p HD Demo:
MP4
H264 Main profile, 1920x1080 @ 10Mbps @ 30FPS
AAC, 44.1KHz @ 192Kbps
perfect quality
1 to 3 FPS
VERDICT: I found myself a nice DivX/xVid player, and a "backup" h264 player
It works very well, but in the original thread it was removed due to lack of permission from the author: seems like a leaked release.
Since this is a very GREAT piece of work, I suggest to remove it from here too, contact the author and give willings for an official beta support to him.
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It works very well, but in the original thread it was removed due to lack of permission from the author: seems like a leaked release.
Since this is a very GREAT piece of work, I suggest to remove it from here too, contact the author and give willings for an official beta support to him.
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Yeah I did that :/
best avi player out there, finally a seriuos leak of android has been resolved.
Mod. edit: As already stated this is a beta, publishing it would be warez as the developer didn't consent it's distribution. Pls wait for the official release.
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I tried RockPlayer Lite and some other players in the market but none work.
Please help.
vitalplayer?
Try doubletwist. Plays mp4
junks2010 said:
I tried RockPlayer Lite and some other players in the market but none work.
Please help.
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It's not really just a question of what player - it's a question of what 1080p mp4 files too. Tegra 2 is extremely limited in what it will play back in a 1080p mp4 so how the mp4 is encoded matters as well. I think I read somewhere that it's baseline profile only...and that's with hardware acceleration. Software only, I'm guessing that no file of that size will play - it's too many pixels to push around.
And Rockplayer is my mp4 player of choice (to the extent I actually registered for it to get rid of the ads and the R). In hardware mode, it doesn't bat an eye at my 720p mp4s in main profile.
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It's not really just a question of what player - it's a question of what 1080p mp4 files too. Tegra 2 is extremely limited in what it will play back in a 1080p mp4 so how the mp4 is encoded matters as well. I think I read somewhere that it's baseline profile only...and that's with hardware acceleration. Software only, I'm guessing that no file of that size will play - it's too many pixels to push around.
And Rockplayer is my mp4 player of choice (to the extent I actually registered for it to get rid of the ads and the R). In hardware mode, it doesn't bat an eye at my 720p mp4s in main profile.
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x2. If the 1080p video is encoded the right way, even the vanilla player will play it.
I've been using h263 1080p / 720p MP4's and they work well. Even some MKV's will work with the vanilla player, if encoded a certain way.
roebeet said:
x2. If the 1080p video is encoded the right way, even the vanilla player will play it.
I've been using h263 1080p / 720p MP4's and they work well. Even some MKV's will work with the vanilla player, if encoded a certain way.
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Any luck getting h264 1080p to play? Any specific software you recommend to convert files to appropriate encoding?
I've had success in the past doing it and watching 1080p .mov movie trailers but haven't done so since I've upgraded to TnTLite 5.0. I would recommend Handbrake for encoding and then playing with it. From using Mediainfo on them, I think they were Level 4.1 main profile with 2 reference frames, no Cabac.
I found this on fudzilla from google (I can provide a link if needed)
First of them is H.264 with sub standards Baseline Profile (B frames) — 1080p/20Mbps, Main Profile (B Frames, CAVLC) — 1080p, Main Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction) — 720p/6Mbps and High Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction).
Tegra 2 also supports High Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction), MPEG-4 (Simple, B frames and ASP Profiles) — 1080p/8Mbps, H.263 (Profile 0) — 720×576/4Mbps, DiVX (DiVX 4/5) — 1080p/8Mbps, XviD (XviD Home Theater) — 1080p/8Mbps, MPEG-2 (Main Profile @ Main Level) — 720×576/10Mbps, VP6 (simple and advanced profile) — 720p30/2Mbps, Sorenson (simple and advanced profile) — 720×576/4Mbps, JPEG up to 80 Mpixel per second.
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Caveat - 1080p encoding is slow and the files are big. Unless you are doing 1080p encoding for some other purpose, I wouldn't do it just to play on the G-Tab. It really seems to be stretching the limits of the technology. I prefer to do a really good quality 720p encode instead. They look equally good on the G-Tab at a smaller file size - and on a 60" plasma I still can't tell that they're worse. I had floated my encode parameters for handbrake somewhere back in this section.
vitalplayer, vanilla player? What is better, what supports more formats and it is more convenient?
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vitalplayer, vanilla player? What is better, what supports more formats and it is more convenient?
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The only luck I've had with hardware accelerated video (the high-def stuff) is Rockplayer or vanilla player. Don't like the lack of file browsing you get with the vanilla player. You can get around that by using a file explorer to open your videos instead of the gallery.
I have a couple of mkvs that Rockplayer won't play (SD ones at that), so maybe an experiment is in order!
The standard android player we have is very limited.
DICEPLAYER does, what the standard player can not.
Diceplayer
With Full HARDWARE (Tegra 2) acceleration
Formats it plays:
- AVI,MOV,MKV,FLV,AVI,3GP,3G2,ASF,WMV,MP4,M4V,TP,TS,MTP,M2T
Video Codecs
- HW : MPEG-4,H.264,H.263
- SW : MPEG-4,H.264,RMVB,XVID,MS MPEG-4,VP6,H.263,MPEG-1,MPEG-2
Audio Codecs
- DTS,AC3,AAC,Vorbis,FLAC,MP3,MP2,WMA
First install this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial
Then install this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.tegra2
What you think about MX Video Player?
Rejwen said:
What you think about MX Video Player?
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Diceplayer is better.
DICE is Better But THis a 3days Trial
and one more when i play 1080p video in this player sound n video are not equal ,720p videos playing smoothly so m still finding better player
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Try VPlayer (Search On Market) Batter Than DICE Player And Its 7 Days Trail But Not So Good Still Video And Sound Are Not Equal For Me
WHATS ABOUT U?
But wouldn't battery consumption be increased for full hardware acceleration during movie playback ??
Off topic : I have links to both players fully unlocked. Hehehehe........
DICE keeps throwing up a 'licence not allowed, check time and timezone' error
any suggestions? I'm running YEMU and my date and time is correct for my location :/
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But wouldn't battery consumption be increased for full hardware acceleration during movie playback ??
Off topic : I have links to both players fully unlocked. Hehehehe........
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I may be wrong, but I think making a more rational use of the hardware by using hardware acceleration instead of using software (that is also processed by the hardware of course) actually would DECREASE battery consumption. Hardware acceleration makes better use of our hardware.
Makes sense, no?
And here we have no "options". With 1080p we either use hardware acceleration or we do not play the file at all, because the frame rate with software acceleration is so bad.
I agree with legion1911 because I have all test about it
in case 1080p it hard to say it not support at high bit rate and low is very slow too
it improssible to play as playable FPS with any drop.
in case 720p is target it play mkv with some normal profile and when 720p at any format like wmv avi it play as "Hardware Acc" mode it sharp in sound and picture.
At Last why you need play 1080p in 800x480 screen for ? at Tablet and Tegra device with HDMI ok it for HDTV and other case I can't see def. in 1080p or 720p ?
I advice time to make 1080p playback it has to Dev Voodoo sound it more interesting ? don't forget we have WM8994 inside ^^ sorry for english
Use qplayer, its one the best player i have used so far, and been using for over a year now, even used it in my old nexus S, and use it my new Galaxy R
for me Mx player & BS player working fine...
Howdy everyone
can anyone please explain why playback of video streams that r MPEG2 is so bad? 99,1% of my library contains MPEG2 with acc/AC3 in a .ts container and i would like to be able play them back on my Android device without them looking being played back at 15fps!!! Even the old PC in my Dad's office with a 833Mhz Pentium III plays them on WMP flawlessly. On that old machine they look how they should look and that is like being played back 60fps!!!
My Device is a Note 3 N9005 Snapdragon 800
Here are some infos about a typical file
Video
ID : 256 (0x100)
Menu ID : 26624 (0x6800)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 43mn 58s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 13.1 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 20.0 Mbps
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.282
Stream size : 4.04 GiB (93%)
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Audio
ID : 272 (0x110)
Menu ID : 26624 (0x6800)
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : LC
Muxing mode : ADTS
Codec ID : 15
Duration : 43mn 59s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 220 Kbps
Minimum bit rate : 66.8 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 347 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -262ms
Stream size : 69.1 MiB (2%)
I'm really annoyed about this I want playback that looks like 60fps.
Could it be that Deinterlacing doesn't work properly? And yes i already installed a costum codec. Typ ARMv7 NEON.
Are you on stock ROM? And which android version? Do you have deinterlacing enabled?
Note that deinterlacing only works with SW mode decoder.
The most recent app version uploaded to Play Store today has some fixes relating to .ts.
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Are you on stock ROM? And which android version?
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Informations about my device Software:
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Do you have deinterlacing enabled?
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If I enable deinterlacing even more framedrops happen and it gets unwatchable.
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Note that deinterlacing only works with SW mode decoder.
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H/W or H/W+ doesn't even support the files.
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The most recent app version uploaded to Play Store today has some fixes relating to .ts.
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Unfortunately it didn't have much impact on the performance.
Another Question I have is if I activated deinterlacing wich modus does it use? If I play my files with vlc I need it to be Bob. Can I change this Settings somehow?
I also uploaded a Sample maybe u or even the Developer could check this out since I bought the Pro version and helped them out. Please play this file with windows media player even if you have vlc or any other player with the perfect codec set up it will somehow always be better with windows media player. And I hope ur eyes or brain can process the difference in frame rate because some people don't see it. On WMP it should look very fluid nearly as something shot with 60fps and on mx player it looks like I said not like that. In the past i thought it has something to do with the CPU/GPU and that my old S4 simply does not have enough horsepower (which was still weird because i knew even on old Windows machines the MPEG2 codec never made any issues) but then I got me a Note3 because it even supports 4K video playback but nope still same issue. So it must have something to do with the software.
@chieco
MX Player plays the video well in SW mode in my S5 without any lag...!!
chieco said:
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If I enable deinterlacing even more framedrops happen and it gets unwatchable.
H/W or H/W+ doesn't even support the files.
Unfortunately it didn't have much impact on the performance.
Another Question I have is if I activated deinterlacing wich modus does it use? If I play my files with vlc I need it to be Bob. Can I change this Settings somehow?
I also uploaded a Sample maybe u or even the Developer could check this out since I bought the Pro version and helped them out. Please play this file with windows media player even if you have vlc or any other player with the perfect codec set up it will somehow always be better with windows media player. And I hope ur eyes or brain can process the difference in frame rate because some people don't see it. On WMP it should look very fluid nearly as something shot with 60fps and on mx player it looks like I said not like that. In the past i thought it has something to do with the CPU/GPU and that my old S4 simply does not have enough horsepower (which was still weird because i knew even on old Windows machines the MPEG2 codec never made any issues) but then I got me a Note3 because it even supports 4K video playback but nope still same issue. So it must have something to do with the software.
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Are you running videos from network storage? And then it will be greatly dependent to network speed.
I tryed in on my Nexus 5 (which has inferior computing power to yours) for local and network playback.
But cannot reproduce your issue.
ktsamy said:
@chieco
MX Player plays the video well in SW mode in my S5 without any lag...!!
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bleu8888 said:
Are you running videos from network storage? And then it will be greatly dependent to network speed.
I tryed in on my Nexus 5 (which has inferior computing power to yours) for local and network playback.
But cannot reproduce your issue.
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First of all thanks everyone for their feedback.
No I don't stream it, it's stored on my internal memory.
Can u guys activate deinterlancing and see if it plays back normal?
And what about the framerate? I know it playsback "fine" but can't u guys see a difference in the framerate? Please take a look at this 15 Sec. Clip and pay attention to the first seconds where the Camera moves from person to person and maybe watch it few times on ur PC so that ur eye/brain gets used to the framerate and then look at it on ur Android Device. I'm not making this up :crying: And here another example its the Refrain from the first clip there is even more fast movement and camera zooms. Also it's hard to see sometime but there is also a "comb" effect happening. But since the Display's have such high ppi it not easy to spot.
Please guys it can't be only me that notices this :crying::crying::crying:
chieco said:
First of all thanks everyone for their feedback.
No I don't stream it, it's stored on my internal memory.
Can u guys activate deinterlancing and see if it plays back normal?
And what about the framerate? I know it playsback "fine" but can't u guys see a difference in the framerate? Please take a look at this 15 Sec. Clip and pay attention to the first seconds where the Camera moves from person to person and maybe watch it few times on ur PC so that ur eye/brain gets used to the framerate and then look at it on ur Android Device. I'm not making this up :crying: And here another example its the Refrain from the first clip there is even more fast movement and camera zooms. Also it's hard to see sometime but there is also a "comb" effect happening. But since the Display's have such high ppi it not easy to spot.
Please guys it can't be only me that notices this :crying::crying::crying:
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First of all, MX Player does not drop frames in SW decoindg mode.
Instead, if video decoding is slow, video processing will be slowed down and a/v sync will be lost gradually.
Second,I tried hyoketsu-120316.ts on development mode and saw all logs coming out but cannot find any lags or frame drops on my Nexus 5.
Finally, I cannot understand why you think WMV plays videos like 60fps. It is just 30fps and I felt same non-smooth frame changes in first few seconds with WMV.
FYI, I used WMV 12 on Windows 7 64bits.
I am not sure but your monitor may have special deinterlacing feature. Some high end monitors put intermediate frames to make video playback smooth. For example, they make 30fps videos to 60fps or 120fps by creating intermediate frames in chipset level. Or your WMP may have some advanced deinterlacing filters intalled. Anyway I cannot find any difference with default WMV configuration and regular monitor. If this is the case, it will need more research.
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Finally, I cannot understand why you think WMV plays videos like 60fps. It is just 30fps and I felt same non-smooth frame changes in first few seconds with WMV.
FYI, I used WMV 12 on Windows 7 64bits.
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I swear to God bleu8888 I'm not making this up WMP does Play those files looking like 60fps!!! And I finally found a really good Sample so please for the last time check it out and report :crying: you have to believe me.
I have a old MacBook on that I've installed Windows 7 (Build 7600) the WMP Version 12.0.7600.16385 the screen resolution is 1280x800 @ 60Hz
For example the newest VLC Version don't plays MPEG2 as smooth as WMP. The best result I get when I activate DeInterlancing and choose X for the mode but even then it's not exactly that smooth/fluid.
On my main system OSX I use a old version of VLC 1.1.9 newer versions struggle playing MPEG2 as well. And on there the DeInterlancing Mode is called Bob other modes can't play it smooth.
If I activate DeInterlancing on mxplayer which mode will it use? Can u edit the codec and change the mode?
I wish we could meet and I would show you what I mean. I really want this to work properly so bad u can't believe it.
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I am not sure but your monitor may have special deinterlacing feature. Some high end monitors put intermediate frames to make video playback smooth. For example, they make 30fps videos to 60fps or 120fps by creating intermediate frames in chipset level. Or your WMP may have some advanced deinterlacing filters intalled. Anyway I cannot find any difference with default WMV configuration and regular monitor. If this is the case, it will need more research.
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No I use the build in Display which doesn't have special features.
Tomorrow I try to get my hands on a Nexus 5 and see if it's the same.
Something must have changed regarding MPEG-2 compatibility.
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H/W or H/W+ doesn't even support the files.
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I'm not sure if the Note 3 has hardware MPEG-2 (H.262) support; the fact that H/W doesn't work suggests that it does not.
If you transfer the video from a .ts container to mp4, does it make a difference? I would imagine not, but I'm interested to see what happens anyways.
Also, in mp4 the system stock media player will probably be able to play it. I'm curious if the system app can play it without lag.
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Something must have changed regarding MPEG-2 compatibility.
I'm not sure if the Note 3 has hardware MPEG-2 (H.262) support; the fact that H/W doesn't work suggests that it does not.
If you transfer the video from a .ts container to mp4, does it make a difference? I would imagine not, but I'm interested to see what happens anyways.
Also, in mp4 the system stock media player will probably be able to play it. I'm curious if the system app can play it without lag.
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Do you know any MP4 Muxer that allows MPEG2 files? I don't.
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I swear to God bleu8888 I'm not making this up WMP does Play those files looking like 60fps!!! And I finally found a really good Sample so please for the last time check it out and report :crying: you have to believe me.
I have a old MacBook on that I've installed Windows 7 (Build 7600) the WMP Version 12.0.7600.16385 the screen resolution is 1280x800 @ 60Hz
For example the newest VLC Version don't plays MPEG2 as smooth as WMP. The best result I get when I activate DeInterlancing and choose X for the mode but even then it's not exactly that smooth/fluid.
On my main system OSX I use a old version of VLC 1.1.9 newer versions struggle playing MPEG2 as well. And on there the DeInterlancing Mode is called Bob other modes can't play it smooth.
If I activate DeInterlancing on mxplayer which mode will it use? Can u edit the codec and change the mode?
I wish we could meet and I would show you what I mean. I really want this to work properly so bad u can't believe it.
No I use the build in Display which doesn't have special features.
Tomorrow I try to get my hands on a Nexus 5 and see if it's the same.
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Ok Chieco, you are right. WMP plays this sample video far better than VLC and MX.
Actually MX does not have enough deinterlacing supports. This will be improved in the future.
Thanks.
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Ok Chieco, you are right. WMP plays this sample video far better than VLC and MX.
Actually MX does not have enough deinterlacing supports. This will be improved in the future.
Thanks.
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:crying: Thank You
My dream is to be able to watch all my videos that r like 99,1% in MPEG2 buttery smooth like on WMP. My eyes/brain r used to it being like 60fps looking and I really notice the difference really quick. Thank you for acknowledging it and for doing something about it I really appreciate it.:good:
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Do you know any MP4 Muxer that allows MPEG2 files? I don't.
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I'm pretty sure that Handbrake can put MPEG2 into mp4, since it uses ffmpeg to encode the MPEG2. Mind trying it out?
I'm not sure about this second point, but some of the newer Samsung roms have media players that support mkv. See if yours will do MPEG2 in mkv.
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since it uses ffmpeg to encode the MPEG2. Mind trying it out?
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wait a minute... you mean re-encode my files not remux! HELL NO.... there is no way that I do that. Isn't it one of the best advantage of Android to be able just to copy whatever file format video u want and then install a great app like mxplayer and enjoy ur video? Thats the reason why I newer watched a single video on my iPhone. Besides my computer is so old that it takes ages to convert a video. And the video quality suffers from re-encoding. And especially on my MPEG2 files the "Magic" 60fps effect gets lost. I am using mxplayer for years now and I always blamed the slow processing power of my phone but i was fed up with this thats why I created this Thread and i can't be happier because bleu8888 recognized the problem and said he will fix this in the future! I surely don't know how long it will take but knowing he is doing something about it gives me patience.
Ah, right, I forgot that handbrake has no video passthru option; it's only got audio passthru. Oh well, in that case then yes, there is no simple way to get MPEG2 into an mp4 container.