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iPhone 4S Specs & Details

Yes, the event's over. There is and will be only one iPhone, that is the 4S. Here are the specs and pricing available.
http://www.seednonym.com/2011/10/iphone-4s-all-you-need-to-know.html
If you missed the event and wish to understand the full features under Apple's hood, read the link below.
http://www.seednonym.com/2011/10/lets-talk-iphone-2011-keynotes-iphone.html
Regards.

It's being laughed about here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289003

The OS aside from the hideous UI now trumps any other OS out there uncontested. It took the best features of each OS and compiled them, the other guys have some catching up to do software-wise.

z33dev33l said:
The OS aside from the hideous UI now trumps any other OS out there uncontested. It took the best features of each OS and compiled them, the other guys have some catching up to do software-wise.
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Which blog gave you that impression Zee?

Thatd be endgadget along with watching the live feed. The OS always was top-tier aside from the UI, the hardware has just always been severely disappointing. I feel as though android is lightyears behind as an OS and that even wp7 is playing catch-up despite the obvious theft of features from each.

Closing this one, you can use our sister site for the fruit stuff

[Q] Android 4.0 and iOS 5

which is the best system???

I would say its an impossible question to answer
Having played a little with the two systems, they both have plus points and negatives.
From being an Android user, i would be slightly biased and say the ICS is more appealing, as google dont tie your hands and lets you have a bit of a play with settings etc....

I would say its the Android 4.0

There's no true answer to this question, it's just a topic of personal preference. Some prefer iOS for it's simplicity, and others Android for it's customizability. Of course, there are other determining factors, but that's just one example.

I beleive that Android is on top (which in fact it is) and I'd even preffer WM7 better than iOS 5

Apples or Oranges ?
Asking this on XDA, you should be able to guess the answers.

Both have their cons and pros

Yeah, You can't really compare linux based software with apple based software
That's like XDA Without phones.

MeeGo, Wasted Opportunity?

Well, yesterday was my first day using MeeGo OS on my new Nokia n9 and I have to say I absolutely love it. It is much smoother than I expected, it offers just about everything Android offers, it really focuses on the user experience, and the n9 is just an outstanding little device for any OS. Nokia essentially killed MeeGo with the introduction of their amazing windows phone devices, but my question is, "why not both?" I honestly feel that MeeGo could've been a serious contender amongst the Android tinkerers and wp7 is easily the most socially adept OS. They could have been the giants of the mobile industry once again. Does anyone else feel like MeeGo was a missed opportunity? I would've loved it on some lumia 900 hardware. They could've even continued releasing it on very similar hardware. Your thoughts?

well, i got meego on my netbook when i bought it... and i quite instantly deleted it or rather exchanged it to suse.
i also wanted the n9 back in the days, but went with the samsung wave which got another "alternative" os installed.
but seeing bada is pretty much going down the drain right now i should have taken the n9, as you seem to be really happy with it! ^^
but i think thats always the problem with new os's that have yet to prove themselves against the allmighty ones like android and ios.
even windows phone is having a hard time.

i use to play with maemo on my n900 and i loved it. still my favorite phone, but ya never got the chance to try the final release of meego. watched a couple of youtube reviews on it and looks great.
ya, but i think meego has missed out and i think nokia is focused on wp7

I think that MeeGo and WebOS (can be found on previous HP devices) both missed out. They could have equally made it big with the right advertising , pricing, and hardware.

Too little too late.

N9 and N95 are both great devices, that actually sell quite well.
http://communities-dominate.blogs.c...ent-of-symbian-windows-phone-strategy-do.html
Read about the devices from a former Nokia Exec.
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I don't think wp7 was a poor choice, I think the poor choice was not using it as just part of the repertoire.

AFAIK, Nokia cancel Meego phone as part of the deal with Microsoft, so they can license WP and get a special treatment to customize WP. Of course everybody know how's Microsoft's stance towards Linux, and Meego is based on (Debian) Linux.
Maemo, although is really good, suffer badly from Nokia internal politics. Nokia shipped the first Maemo device on 2005, that's 2 years earlier than the original iPhone(2007), 3 years earlier than iOS App Store (2008), 3 years earlier than the first Android handset (2008, HTC Dream G1). Instead pushing Maemo, Nokia release S60v5 and fail miserably. Meego lost its traction, because the development took too long.
So, Nokia had its chances.
The one that I don't really understand is why Intel, as the other benefactor of Meego, cancelled it also, and move to Tizen. And why there's no independent developer continue the development? The reference hardware is available (N9 and N900), the source code also available.

I agree. I mean MeeGo is as pure as linux on a phone comes. For a Linux developer it should be a cakewalk. Instead, a promising foundation is banished. I think with Maemo, it was a strong start, but a shaky foundation. Instead of operating on that like Android did, they started over.

With companies like Intel, Nokia, and Novel behind Meego I never had high hopes for it.

Windows fans

I'm so curious if there are any die-hard fans for Windows like there are for Android and iOs.
Why do you like Windows so much? What are the advantages?

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I'm so curious if there are any die-hard fans for Windows like there are for Android and iOs.
Why do you like Windows so much? What are the advantages?
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Not like Android and iOS,
But many level headed users will recognise what WM and WP is all about and they will appreciate it, but the don't go shouting about it.
From my own personal experiences and in no way is this supposed to be a sweeping statement generalising all android users, but I personally find that there is some kind of superiority complex with some iOS and droid users
Its really annoying, some seem to come on to Windows forums just to slag it off. Its a sad day when any member on this site feels the need to do that, to any OS forum ( same goes to WP WM users doing it to droid forums)
another sad series of events that seem to be taking place is that there is an influx of "new" users who and usually droid owners and seem to feel the need to boast about how good their OS is.
WM is the only true pocket PC out there, it was let down but OEMs and carriers, it is however an amazing OS, even today, and you will find that many day to day tasks are still run by WM devices, it was however slow, and not good for games but in every other aspect it outclasses all competition
WP does what it says on the tin, its a phone, and the things it does do it does incredibly well, yes others can do more, but where they overlap, in my experience, WP usually wins hands down. If you want a phone that works with minimal fuss, WP is, in my opinion, the best (reasonably priced) device out there.
that is not to say the other OS choices are any worse, or better, its just they target a different user, and the people who feel the need to slag off WP etc would do well to realise that.
oh whilst im at it, another annoying event is that since droid has taken over, even the news posts are condescending towards WP, its really frustrating that personal opinion cant be removed even from the headline news.

crushme1 said:
I'm so curious if there are any die-hard fans for Windows like there are for Android and iOs.
Why do you like Windows so much?
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I'm sure there are. You aren't going to see as many fans of any kind because WP has such a small market share. As the market share grows human nature dictates you will see more irrationally exuberant people.
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What are the advantages?
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A search of this forum will reveal countless (ie too many) "Windows Phone vs" threads. There seems to be a sick need by iOS and Andriod users to pour into the Windows Phone section of the forum and start thread after thread on this topic... which the mods eventually lock. I on the other hand have never felt the need to start a thread of any kind in the Andriod section of the forum. So what does that tell you?
Anyway just search and all shall be revealed... along with a boat load of lies.

Advantages: I think WP7 is fastest and simplest OS
Disadvantages: Cannot be updated to WP8 (only gets WP7.8 update) not have VPN and Arabic support.

amir-m89 said:
Advantages: I think WP7 is fastest and simplest OS
Disadvantages: Cannot be updated to WP8 (only gets WP7.8 update) not have VPN and Arabic support.
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Advantage same for me
And Disadvantage same too, WP7.5 does not supports Indian Languages
Hope it does in WP7.8

crushme1 said:
I'm so curious if there are any die-hard fans for Windows like there are for Android and iOs.
Why do you like Windows so much? What are the advantages?
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I loved WM because it was the best OS in that it could do anything, and was completely customisable. I could set my phone up to have any and all buttons perform any action, and the start/home screen could display anything that I wanted, no other OS came close. It's downfalls were not marketing itself to consumers (instead of just businesses) and as dazza9075 said - OEM and carrier support. And lastly apparently not being 'finger friendy'.
Android (or at least the few ROMs I flashed onto my HD2, and the phones of friends I played with for a few minutes) was just a copy of SPB Mobile Shell and isn't truly customisable. I say customisable in the sense that I can make WM look and behave how I want, Android seems to just be looks, which isn't even close to being actually customisable.
IOS, well that's just a glorified App launcher as far as I can tell. Not really in the same area of discussion, and is only a success due to marketing.
I bought a WP simply because I have faith in MS to produce a better OS than the others; feel a little bit of brand loyalty; refuse to join the Apple cult, pay more for the phone than the equivalent Android/BlackBerry/Symbian/WP/etc phone, or have a percentage of my contract paid to Apple under their royalties contract with the carriers; and lastly, despite WM becoming obsolete, I felt that Android was a step back compared to WM.
As far as answering your question about advantages, now that there is so much focus on Apps (I remember when we called them Progs (programs) there isn't so much an advantage. And I couldn't really care less about social integration that WP has, twitter, facebook et al bore me with their tedious rubbish (do I really care that my workmate had a sandwich for lunch?!), but I have found that where WP can't do something that I did on WM, or isn't as customisable as WM, it does have a very simple solution within the OS which doesn't require an App or some kind of hacking/ROM flashing to do it.

amir-m89 said:
Advantages: I think WP7 is fastest and simplest OS
Disadvantages: Cannot be updated to WP8 (only gets WP7.8 update) not have VPN and Arabic support.
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Are you sure that we dont get all the languages that wp8 gets? i wouldnt be so sure just wait some time, Microsoft is working on new features, new custom ROM's are not far away
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And to reply to the question about WP7 fans, i'am a fan i have a WP7 news site but in Bosnian language because here it is not so wide spread like in the US or Germany, but i would like to help to spread the Os here on the Balkan. and i success for now, i have over 12.000 visits since may. and steady growing. i have also an app for wp7 with which my users can see the news in Bosnian language from my blog right on their Windows Phone's. All that for the love of the OS, because it gave me such an better experience and live comfort. my previous phone was an Nokia e71. Now i like WP7 and WP8. and i know that we gonna have some new features. but thats an another story. oh and my blog i wp7novosti.blogspot.com, "WP7" is WP7 "novosti" is news (explain) right now i'am saving for a domain to better support Windows Phone 7 and 8.

I'm tired of flashing roms, updates and scripts just to enjoy my Android phone. Maybe I'll try a WP in the future.
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Which OS?

Hey guys! Which OS you all foresee that will become the next trendsetter in few years to come?
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Odp: Which OS?
Windows Phone and Windows 8 are getting more and more popular but personally i don't like the new metro interface and these OSes.
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Ubuntu! It's already gathered a lot of dev attention! Soon it will be a good competition for android!
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I guess I'm going for android or ubuntu. I'll probably start using ubuntu on my nexus but I may switch back to android. Hopefully we see easy porting of android apps.

Well they say that a mobile is has 10 years in it, and android may be the first to break that unless apple hire the next Steve jobs. Android has a decent push to keep momentum though I think that it will once again retract to being "the geek phone" is, which I Dont mind... I don't like android becoming so popular because future models will be dumbed down for the masses rather than suped up for us...
I think Ubuntu has a nice idea on paper and some eye candy but I think it isn't practicle in as application to be as widely accepted as iOS for the mainstream or as open and moddable (although it should be really, as its from Linux) to attract us nerds or devs beyond the initial "wow its Ubuntu on a phone" factor. It also relies on webapps rather than more mature os tactics of moving away from web apps, can't blame them though as they want lots if apps asap to compete.
RIM should change their name to RIP
I don't know enough about tizen or Firefox to comment but I think Firefox os is DOA tbh.
That leaves the mighty windows phone, building up a catalogue of Apps and mind share, original and beautiful design reflecting windows 8 and Xbox, as fluid and intuitive as iOS with more functionality, slowly becoming more and more open, Nokia are driving it... I believe that wp can do it! I think that by wp9 there will be a lot more openness to the is for devs but not as much as android, but enough to feel free, it will catch on to people moving away from ios or people with Windows 8 tablets and ultra books and it will be a big thing. I love android to death but I believe wp8 will be the big thing of the future.
I think a route android may go is like Linux, different builds rather than just different skins, android touch wiz os could be potentially a different os to motoblur android for example... That could be a goood or a bad thing if it does.
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Windows phone is ok, but Microsoft has always been so restrictive, I cant see it taking off and storming the market. Android, because its open for the world to develop, hone and improve. Microsoft cant keep up, they are too interested in money and not what the consumer wants. Heck just look at how fast android has evolved. Compare that to the backwards step taken by Microsoft with the introduction of Vista, a few years back.

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Windows phone is ok, but Microsoft has always been so restrictive, I cant see it taking off and storming the market. Android, because its open for the world to develop, hone and improve. Microsoft cant keep up, they are too interested in money and not what the consumer wants. Heck just look at how fast android has evolved. Compare that to the backwards step taken by Microsoft with the introduction of Vista, a few years back.
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Was vista really a backwards step or were people (me included) complaining that a brand new GPU/ram-heavy OS was running slow and buggy on our 7 year old computers?
Both Android and windows (inc windows phone) have made huge advances in the last 2 or 3 years, and I've seriously considered sueing apple for false advertising with "most advanced operating system" lol not that its a bad system but no software of apple is particularly advanced... But I wouldn't win because 'advanced' us not quantitative enough and only really subjective (though on the back of that they should not be allowed to claim that, either)
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I think BB10 OS will have a chance in the future

till now android is best, windows 8 is catching up lately, then we have ubuntu and mozilla os coming up head..its so exciting, and then recently bb10 is launched which got good reviews.