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What do you think about the new WinMo 7?? Like or Not?

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When we say Windows Mobile, what is the first thing that comes to your mind? Emmmmm…
Extensive Customization!! - True
Multi Tasking!! - True
Copy Paste!! - True
External SD Card!! – True
Humongous Application and Easy Installation!! - True
Boring but we got UI replacements!! - That is true aswel
And we love that don’t we. That is because it has something that no other Mobile OS had before.
Well lets hear it from you people..
Was this what you were looking for? Or is it no where even close?
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To read more go here - Windows Phone 7 might really die before its even Out?
Lets hear what you guys have to say.

what about love it hate it..u should add a poll but im getting 1 when they come out

It has new **** so i might as well love it.

hmmm. lets see how much we can crack open this os..

looks outdated visually boring like all things microsoft lately. The official statement appears to be Manufacturers will also be restricted to the smart tile user interface so not a smart move when you compare with the Android System.

I'm not worried about losing the freedom that we have on WinMo - I'm confident that the community here will find a way - and a great way, at that - to allow everyone to get what they want out of WP7, or the way I put it to my friend: I'm sure XDA-Devs will have there way with WP7.

I like the look and feel alot!!
But somehow I fear we will loose all our custimisazion possibilities...like custon ROM's simple apps, Registry tweaks, etc...
But lets see...

Like it quite a bit, seeing some great potential there.
I'm happy to see Microsoft used the Zune interface as guideline as many, including myself, liked the interface and where "hoping"/"seeing" the possibility of a phone entry to the Zune's menu structure. In this case Microsoft went further even and expanded on that UI just like i feel the Zune interface is an expanded/further developed titanium UI. Thank god we get rid of Touchflo/Sense finally, always hated it, but that's just my personal opinion ofc.
Next to that the new zoom/rendering/cleartype is very nice and a great addition to any OS.
Personally i dont care too much about all the social networking features as i hardly use them myself and suspect europeans overall use these less than americans. However i like the widespread intergration of these things, from the photo app, the Me tile etc. to the automatic selection of contact information.
Hope our great dev's and myself here at XDA will figure out the inner workings of it and be able to polish it to our liking.
my two cents for now

Wait to see how much the new OS is far to customizations, I belive that here at XDA we can hack again but why the no Power user can't? I don't complain with this new Apple/like orientation.
Hope it's not like it seems
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Looks good to me. It is what I was expecting from a new OS. It isn't just rehashing and repackaging old ideas. I just hope there will be a call manager available for it

It looks good and advanced.
The only fear is that microsoft will go the apple way and cut the developments........
If m$ has not done that there is not better company !
If m$ has done that ( and done successfully ! ) its a sad day for XDA community.
Hope for the best be prepared for the worst !
Jump over to android if m$ has backstabed us

OS is just an OS. The application is more important.
If all the application needs to rebuild, I will simply go for android.
Why should I pay for an OS, when the efforts in the industry is now to be open source? What makes the os distictive are efficiency, multitask, free of dead lock ....But not UI.
If windows phone could make application runs on my HD lighting fast, I might go for it.
It is definetly the end to charge for a mobile OS. Will the greedy M$ make it free for us? If not, it is likely the end of wm.

Good UI, but too sad if we loose all stuff cooked over this forum....

windows 7 plays around microsoft services! buy only if u need these services

Now i understand why microsoft is not completely burying their 6.5.x series development
WM7 at its present state is not for me or for business people.
It is for Iphonish common consumers.
I was expecting WM7 to be an OS with same functional menus & functionalities as previous versions but UI but built on silverlight with zune & Xbox integration. Such a thing would have made WM7 to appeal all types of customers.
Its sad that micrsoft has decided to go in a rather commercial way as apple.
Unless WM7 supports custom skinning like Sense or Mobile shell, i don't think microsoft is going to win here.

They Need You
Years ago, in the dark ages, I was given a prototype computer from Europe to work with and redesign it if necessary. It was necessary. With some skill and a lot of luck I rebuilt a great computer for its time. The American company who owned the European rights to this computer was sinking $200 million into making this machine work for the US market. I was an independent designer (who had already upgraded this computer) and this large company did not want to listen to me or even give me anything for my work. So I never turned over the secrets to them but I wrote software for it for my software company. They worked on this computer for another 8 months and finally solved the problems. In the end, because other companies (like Commodor) beat this computer (that was way ahead of the others) to market, this great machine never caught on. The other computers weren't better but they were first and now were being used by the public. The company who would not sign a contract with me, lost their shirts in their computer division. The company was Timex.
I feel this may be the same problem with Windows mobile. Yes, they have terrific engineers but they should also look to you all on sites like this one to really get new ideas and advice. Because of this site and the programmers on it, my WM 6.1 OS has blown away even phones with snapdragon processors. I hope WM doesn't become a third rate OS because of their not listening to people like you on this site.

too little is revealed on the presentation, to me at least. i dont use social networking nor LIVE service (i do have XBOX360). i need a good organizer, customizable layout, multitasking, and NOT iphone alike!

WP7S seems to be too stripped down, compared to current WM versions. The press conference didn't go into detail, but I fear the highly customizable OS we came to know is a thing of the past - which is a bad thing imo.
But luckily Android is becoming a nice alternative.

the problem for ms is that so far most apps since pocketpc2000 works on our devices so if we can suffer the UI there are tons of apps free and paied you can use
leaving that would mean that android and even nokia n900 (also linux based) are already way ahead of ms in terms of apps and getting fancy games running also a thing ms say is not the aim of wm7 from the rumours i read say and if thats the case the no good gaming options
then iphone / ipod touch are also ahead of them
so far ms had pretty good development res for their mobiles being .net and microMFC as core techs
where iphone / ipod touch required you to buy a mac to make apps which given apples market % few developers had
not sure about how good the symbian/android/n900 development tools are
as an sdk is not really enough to make a good IDE

to be honest i find it pitifully bad.
as i was expecting it too be as soon as the words "stop, thinking off it as a pc, its a phone" came put right near the start.
no matter how much bull and spin and pr hype they put on it its a list based os. list after list after list...
this isn't really what people want is it?
I was really hoping for innovation instead its gone back 8 years.
forget windows phone, its gone windows dumb phone

Microsoft's offers to webOS devs

Don't know if anyone's heard but apparently Microsoft is taking full advantage of webOS's fall. They are offer development free tools, phones and etc. Wow they waste no time.
Here's a link to the article.
http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_o...nd_training_to_webos_developers-news-3026.php

DroidFreek said:
Don't know if anyone's heard but apparently Microsoft is taking full advantage of webOS's fall. They are offer development free tools, phones and etc. Wow they waste no time.
Here's a link to the article.
http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_o...nd_training_to_webos_developers-news-3026.php
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Tell me about it. I do respect them on what their doing. Great devs lose their jobs, so they're up for grabs.

Microsofts making all the right moves.

Exactly, playing it smart.

Agree, smart move, but Android won't lose market share easily..

Only a plus to Microsoft.

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Agree, smart move, but Android won't lose market share easily..
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Oh not at all. Microsoft has a long way to go to catch up with the Android and Apple.
Honestly I feel the only reason Microsoft is down in the smartphone game is because
1- They don't advertise as much
2- They don't have a radically new WP7 that draws users to the phone
3- If they bundled their phones with computer sales, it would allow customers to easily jump into the os.
If they saw those three points and worked on them, it would send them up there with the big boys.

Problem is every court hates ms for integrating software into windows; you think giving away a basic phone with every dell will ease those tensions? Unfortunately, ms can't get away with the crap apple does with every pc, ipod, iphone and ipad.
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russ18uk said:
Problem is every court hates ms for integrating software into windows; you think giving away a basic phone with every dell will ease those tensions? Unfortunately, ms can't get away with the crap apple does with every pc, ipod, iphone and ipad.
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That's understandable. Still, it then goes back to advertising. It seems as if MS wants people to magically know about their devices.
I've only seen a commercial for the Surround about 5 times and that was it.

I'd be so pissed if I was a webOS developer. Excited to see more/better apps for Windows Phone.

but with this microsoft did a step forward, it could help to get some DEVs but i dont think that it will get better then GOOGLE OS

I had a palm treo as my first smart phone and it ran windows. it was terrible.. I'm sure they have gotten better, but that phone gave me a sour opinion on windows phones.. not so good then probably not so good now.. but it does make me curious to playing with a windows phone next time im at a best buy or other retail store with one on display..

Windows phones, just like android, are at their full potential when custom roms are created. I think if they were more devs into the os it could compete.

Why get off one sinking ship to get on another sinking ship?

"Why get off one sinking ship to get on another sinking ship?" vetvito
you think Mango will sink?

No money to be made there, just like WebOS. You get customers first, the devs will follow.

Microsoft should come back. Competition keeps the others sharp.

I kind of pity all of those developers who spent months developing for WebOS only to have it be trashed.

1.2 billion down the drain....
...wow just read up on all the money hp used to buy and develop webOS that number was just for the purchase of Palm inc.

MeeGo, Wasted Opportunity?

Well, yesterday was my first day using MeeGo OS on my new Nokia n9 and I have to say I absolutely love it. It is much smoother than I expected, it offers just about everything Android offers, it really focuses on the user experience, and the n9 is just an outstanding little device for any OS. Nokia essentially killed MeeGo with the introduction of their amazing windows phone devices, but my question is, "why not both?" I honestly feel that MeeGo could've been a serious contender amongst the Android tinkerers and wp7 is easily the most socially adept OS. They could have been the giants of the mobile industry once again. Does anyone else feel like MeeGo was a missed opportunity? I would've loved it on some lumia 900 hardware. They could've even continued releasing it on very similar hardware. Your thoughts?

well, i got meego on my netbook when i bought it... and i quite instantly deleted it or rather exchanged it to suse.
i also wanted the n9 back in the days, but went with the samsung wave which got another "alternative" os installed.
but seeing bada is pretty much going down the drain right now i should have taken the n9, as you seem to be really happy with it! ^^
but i think thats always the problem with new os's that have yet to prove themselves against the allmighty ones like android and ios.
even windows phone is having a hard time.

i use to play with maemo on my n900 and i loved it. still my favorite phone, but ya never got the chance to try the final release of meego. watched a couple of youtube reviews on it and looks great.
ya, but i think meego has missed out and i think nokia is focused on wp7

I think that MeeGo and WebOS (can be found on previous HP devices) both missed out. They could have equally made it big with the right advertising , pricing, and hardware.

Too little too late.

N9 and N95 are both great devices, that actually sell quite well.
http://communities-dominate.blogs.c...ent-of-symbian-windows-phone-strategy-do.html
Read about the devices from a former Nokia Exec.
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I don't think wp7 was a poor choice, I think the poor choice was not using it as just part of the repertoire.

AFAIK, Nokia cancel Meego phone as part of the deal with Microsoft, so they can license WP and get a special treatment to customize WP. Of course everybody know how's Microsoft's stance towards Linux, and Meego is based on (Debian) Linux.
Maemo, although is really good, suffer badly from Nokia internal politics. Nokia shipped the first Maemo device on 2005, that's 2 years earlier than the original iPhone(2007), 3 years earlier than iOS App Store (2008), 3 years earlier than the first Android handset (2008, HTC Dream G1). Instead pushing Maemo, Nokia release S60v5 and fail miserably. Meego lost its traction, because the development took too long.
So, Nokia had its chances.
The one that I don't really understand is why Intel, as the other benefactor of Meego, cancelled it also, and move to Tizen. And why there's no independent developer continue the development? The reference hardware is available (N9 and N900), the source code also available.

I agree. I mean MeeGo is as pure as linux on a phone comes. For a Linux developer it should be a cakewalk. Instead, a promising foundation is banished. I think with Maemo, it was a strong start, but a shaky foundation. Instead of operating on that like Android did, they started over.

With companies like Intel, Nokia, and Novel behind Meego I never had high hopes for it.

WP8 vs. BB 10 who will emerge victory?

OK we all know Android and iPhone are at the top right now but this poll isn't about them at all. this thread has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not WP8 or BB10 will outsell any other type of OS
Strictly speaking of Microsoft's upcoming Windows Phone 8 and RIM'S upcoming BlackBerry 10, which of these do you think are going to dominate in sales between these two in 2013? Both companies are promising a completely new and different OS than their previous smartphones. Which will prove the winner?

BB still has a lot of people pulling for it. I have to say the mock-up teaser video that they released and some of the proprietary apps look promising.
Windows has been lackluster so far, but I'm sure they will have some kind of promotion going on with Win 8 and their phones to try and get them into more consumer's hands.
If BB can release a strong set of apps initially on good hardware with a modern-looking intuitive interface then I think they will win in terms of sales over the next year, especially if their security and encryption is up to snuff. Even know a lot of corporate honchos are still BlackBerried up.

I think WP8 will beat out BB10. RIM has their entire existence riding on 10.

RIM still has a vastly superior advantage over Microsoft, at least as far as businesses go. I think RIM could cater only to businesses and still remain profitable.

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RIM still has a vastly superior advantage over Microsoft, at least as far as businesses go. I think RIM could cater only to businesses and still remain profitable.
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I think RIM is gasping some air before they will expire, I used to have over 100 BB messenger buddies, by the time I left them I was left with 5, its a slow and painful death but sooner or later it will happen

I think I can honestly say...
Neither.
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Well Nokia does have pretty good adverts for wp7 (like deadmau5 presentation in London). Maybe they can do the same with wp8.

Wp8 has a better chance.
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Both will probably fail.
I've used a Lumia and it's a wonderful device. Unfortunately, the app store was atrocious. Seriously, no Dropbox? When all your friends and family are enjoying newly released apps, you will feel left out. If you're lucky, you'll get that app a few months down the line. But by then, all your friends and family will move on to other apps.
BB10 could also be wonderful, but without serious developer support, it's going nowhere.
Developers won't make apps because there's no one to buy them. But no one buys the phone because there's no good apps. It's a vicious cycle.

RIM is just going to have to find the capital somewhere to make it happen. The good thing for Windows is that they can subsidise the handsets and keep the prices low just to get them into people's hands. They were even giving them away for trade of any smartphone; the fact that they didn't get a really high number of takers on that offers speaks to where WP is right now, though.
Anyway, RIM needs to be all in on this and do it right from the start to have any chance.

Before we delve too deeply off topic into speculating whether or not both will fail, keep in mind the topic deals with which of these 2 platforms would pull ahead of the other. Personally my money is on MS simply because they have more monetary muscle to throw around and their massively dominant presence as a computer OS worldwide both in homes and businesses is larger than RIM'S blackberry phone user base. All RIM really has are phones while MS can use their software business to push their windows phone. It's a make it or break it for RIM while MS can still chug along as a giant PC windows company regardless.
A good indicator so far is how big name developers are already getting on board for WP8 before it has even come out while RIM is still struggling to get them to sign up on BB10. It should prove to be an interesting battle

I think WP 8 will be more mature than BB OS 10 but im waiting for the OS wars to fire up a lot more competition lately

Huh, I thought I'd be with the majority when I chose Blackberry 10. Maybe it's just my outdated notion that every business person is carrying around a blackberry still, I should know that Android and iOS dominate the market now. I think.

Windows Phone 8
I think it's hands-down Windows Phone 8. MS already has a good base to build from in WP7 -- I've used it before and I think it's actually very good. BB only has the enterprise security thing going for them, which everybody else is catching up on pretty quickly.

Depends how strong the bundling effects of Windows 8 (and xbox) are, which is also up in the air. If microsoft do manage to integrate multiple devices seemlessly, their existing market share lock-in would surely push WP8 beyond blackberry.
As for who emerges victorious, hopefully Firefox OS.

Windows Phone 8 is coming. Vey fast and stable system

Wp8 has a better chance

piotr21l said:
Wp8 has a better chance
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if I really have to pick one - I will WP8. BB10 is outdated and/or late too. WP8 still will need atleast another year or so to become mature. both of them are not candidates to beat the current leaders for sure like someone said.

WP8 definitely.
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in my opinion wp8 better than bb10.

One of those friends... Microsoft Fanboys

OMG...anyone got one of those Microsoft fanboy friends where they just won't shut up? Everything that isn't Microsoft is crap and everything that is Microsoft is superior. We i've got one... it just seems to be hyped up more with new windows 8 phones coming out.. Now i'm not anti Microsoft i like the OS and use it everyday however i don't think that there isn't any faults and that everything within it is perfect! I I I .Kill me now.

I have friends that think Apple is perfect Lol. I love Windows, but Microsoft is FAR from perfect.
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A) People are not going to agree 100% all the time because its just human law and honestly it would be boring. Debates spark knowledge where you learn more than agreeing because means you know.
B) Posting this in the android forums is useless. You'd get better answers in the windows. Maybe some threats too.
C) Android user's need a pc and since google doesn't have one, we use windows. Windows and Android people are allies in the war against apple.
D) If you really can't stand up for android, bring up the Zune. End of debate.