just wondering, if people are trying to work out android into HD2, then a webOS inside HD2 is even better
+1
if htc buys palm as the rumors say than maybe we'll have a chance to see this...
antaed said:
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if htc buys palm as the rumors say than maybe we'll have a chance to see this...
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Could prove to be very interesting if the rumors come true.
i got hd2, palm pre and nexus one at the moment..hd2 is the best hardware wise, palm is the best OS wise...n1 stand in the middle...
i don't even bother thinking about windows 7... webOS is way better than wm 6.5.5 (of which the platform is much older)
android comes surprisingly good though..
if htc does buy palm then we surely will get something like hd2 with palm OS..
i can use my hd2 solely because of custom roms...using standard rom is out of question
iwang said:
i got hd2, palm pre and nexus one at the moment..hd2 is the best hardware wise, palm is the best OS wise...n1 stand in the middle...
i don't even bother thinking about windows 7... webOS is way better than wm 6.5.5 (of which the platform is much older)
android comes surprisingly good though..
if htc does buy palm then we surely will get something like hd2 with palm OS..
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my first choice was the palm pre but i got tired of waiting for it. htc hero was the best android at that time - good alternative but outdated. nokia's n900 was also an interesting alternative but i decided to go with the hd2.
now, after 5 month with it i think it was the best decision i could have made. it's far from perfect but thanks to this community it's getting better and better and i enjoy every minute of this experience.
iwang said:
i can use my hd2 solely because of custom roms...using standard rom is out of question
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i couldn't agree more
yeah
need something like pop up sms, like chompsms in android..is there any in hd2?
It would be a great experience if we can try WebOS.
However WebOS is just a Linux like Android and because it is HTML-based the coding is also very limited and we can't have all the powerful applications that can be made or found on Windows.
Beside it's better to code in the state of the art C# than in old HTML.
ForceField said:
It would be a great experience if we can try WebOS.
However WebOS is just a Linux like Android and because it is HTML-based the coding is also very limited and we can't have all the powerful applications that can be made or found on Windows.
Beside it's better to code in the state of the art C# than in old HTML.
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Say what? I dont understand that statement. Linux is build on C, surely you are mistaken by saing android is coded in HTML...
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Say what? I dont understand that statement. Linux is build on C, surely you are mistaken by saing android is coded in HTML...
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I didn't said that Android is coded in HTML.
I am a Coder snipey and this is not me who you is mistaken
I know what .NET is capable of and what HTML is capable of:
WebOS is HTML based and if you know how to code in HTML or Javascript then coding applications for WebOS is really easy because it is simple.But with this simplicity you will not be able to make powerful applications.
.NET C# is Microsoft's latest language and heavily supported it is also very different from C in matter of syntax and much more powerful because of the graphic.
With this new language(not that new though) you can write very complex code that can give powerful applications.
This is what I was stating.
WebOS is not just html - it is mainly based on JAVASCRIPT - when you say HTML it sounds outdated, but javascript and xml (AJAX) is the new thing when it comes to merging the line between web apps and desktop apps.
Plus Linux is C based. So if Palm unlock the OS it could run native linux apps.
Also, check out the latest games on the palm app store, like Need for speed, those are not HTML based.
Palm has cracked the mobile multitasking issue with a very intuitive paradigm, I only wish the hardware was better (e.g. larger screen, better graphics processor).
Drop WebOS on HD2 hardware and I believe they will finally topple the iPhone's dominance of the mobile market.
you're both a little right.
WebOS is primarily HTML, CSS, and Javascript. However, the recently released PDK (Plug-In Developers Kit) also allows coding portions of WebOS apps in C/C++. The architecture is similar to Web Browser Plugins (since most of WebOS is basically a web browser in nature anyway...)
It's right Here: Palm PDK Overview
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I have not returned kaiser in the hope of being able to install Google's Android OS on kaiser. Hardware is great, but software/drivers suck.
It should be fairly easy because its open source and the first phone that HTC is bringing out is supposed to have the same processor.
Your thoughts?
I'm hoping that becomes a reality. Open source development would open up the floodgates! Imagine TouchFLO with an OpenGL 3D environment.... can't wait to see what happens here.
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I'm hoping that becomes a reality. Open source development would open up the floodgates! Imagine TouchFLO with an OpenGL 3D environment.... can't wait to see what happens here.
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You don't know much about OpenGL and linux do you
Next you'll be wanting to run Beryl on a pocket pc
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You don't know much about OpenGL and linux do you
Next you'll be wanting to run Beryl on a pocket pc
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hahahahah, nice...or better yet, how about we get the kaiser to run the iPhone OS? after that maybe Santa Claus will show up...
Doug2873 said:
hahahahah, nice...or better yet, how about we get the kaiser to run the iPhone OS? after that maybe Santa Claus will show up...
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Well Leopard does run on my PC now *Cough*
If Android is open source, I don't see why someone with compiler knowledge couldn't make it run on any ARM based handheld...
Because booting an OS kernel requires extensive access to hardware specifications, wich is not what Androïd is about at all.
The Android SDK is now available. They have also announced that they're giving away $10 million to developers that build apps for the platform. More info here:
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/developers.html
There's also a video of Android up on YouTube now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJHYqE0RDg
For an early prototype this looks amazing.
now that the SDK is out, I will probably end up eating my own words in the next few months, assuming people on here get the appropriate hardware drivers for the kaiser from HTC.
Terrific
This Andoid is a very killer OS, a lot better than the crappy WM-X, Please HTC port it to Kaiser, if not, we can create a community for build a distribution based on android for the Kaiser.
Regards,
Taguapire
I would too like to see this new Android OS be brought to the Kaiser. If I understand correctly, they are providing all assets to the public with the SDK.
Yes your right
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You don't know much about OpenGL and linux do you
Next you'll be wanting to run Beryl on a pocket pc
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I would love to have beryl on pocket pc. I've been waiting for years since I first saw beryl on youtube. The closest thing we have is the HTC Cube. Can't wait .
Theres talk of this all over xda-developers.
One guy is calling people to work on it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344076&highlight=android
And here's another thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343730&highlight=android
I sure would like to see this happen. Since HTC is a partner in the open handset alliance I could see them releasing drivers for it. ... maybe...
Problem is - OS source or not, the hardware specs for many of the ICs in the Kaiser (esp. the Qualcomm MSM) are not publically available, which means that it isn't possible to write a driver for them.
This is why, for example, the Linux ports to previous HTC devices are (relatively) crippled - drivers for parts of the hardware can't be written because the hardware specs are not available.
Ah. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for shedding some light on this issue, Entropy512.
cant see why you can't just take the msm7200 chipset specs off of the qualcomm site and build something. I mean it has generic arm processors and the other information should be able to gleaned from the windows app itself(radios,etc..)
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You don't know much about OpenGL and linux do you
Next you'll be wanting to run Beryl on a pocket pc
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Nope Compiz....... Hehe
In fact the radio processor (ARM9) already runs a linux like rtos: L4 micro kernel and Iguana embedded OS. See here and here.
I think the chances might be relatively good:
1. HTC has announced they are building android based phones.
2. For the next year or so, chances are that available phone hardware is gonna be pretty much the same as what is available today (give or take).
So it follows that there are good chances that HTC will do most of the work for us. They introduce a new P4551 running Android, you guys do your ROM ripping magic, and take all the various drivers and introduce it into a generic Android ROM. Voila! Android on the Kaiser.
That said, who says Android hardware support on HTC devices is going to be any better than hardware support for WM6? HTC has already proved you can release a phone for a mature platform, with plenty of history, using almost no hardware acceleration for anything. Who says Android phones from HTC will be any better in that respect?
Cool OS
This is a very cool OS. I'm sure some of our great coders around XDA DEVELOPERS can come up with all kinds of ways to use this on many different phones. If they get the money more power to them. They deserve it. At least in my nubee opinion!
As stated on the title, I think it will be great if we can rip iphone apps to run in HD2. Just a suggestion please don't flame me
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Converting apps between platforms
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/air...-write-applications-for-windows-mobile-others
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[iPhone like apps & tweaks build into WinMo]
Applications that can be found in iPhone which are developed or recreated for WinMo.
Doesn't matter with GUI or text interface as long as the idea is there for being creative.
I will try to compile all the 'iPhone like apps' in here which are developed for daily use.
Download Applications:
»SBS Bus Time [SG Only]
»Show Traffic [With Google Map][SG Only]
»Metal Detector - Proof Of Concept
»S2U2 - iPhone Style Slide Lock
»Filmscope [SG Only]
»iPhoneToday - iPhoneToday Video by Birger » Here
Download Tweak:
»Co0kie's Home Tab - iPhone like menu [Swiping Style], Extended Quicklinks & More
More to come...
Credits to afoongwl215, dZenkinZ, 6Fg8, A_C, Co0kieMonster, tronikos, sh2sg.com & Birger for his video
It is impossible. 2 totally different operating system with 2 different file systems, 2 different control sets and 2 different sdk's.
The only way is if the developer makes the app for win mo.
if there was an emulator it would be not impossible...
True, but... I don't think this is gonna happen anytime soon.
I don't think an emulator is needed, I mean how many fart apps do you need??
espaleena why don't you just buy yourself an Iphone.
Sorry, but I can see so many useless messages coming from former Iphone owners on this HD2 sub-section... I am really fed up
i personaly would prefer to see an emulator of android. There are some nice apps that android has, such google map sky, google navigation and Layar. I know VMWare is working on a mobile virtualization but the solution is yet far away in time. But i have to say that an Iphone emulator would be nice also. There tons of apps and games that the Iphone has.
arturobandini said:
espaleena why don't you just buy yourself an Iphone.
Sorry, but I can see so many useless messages coming from former Iphone owners on this HD2 sub-section... I am really fed up
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Too bad I'm not an iPhone fanboy, liking something from iPhone Apps doesn't mean I have to get or support iPhone frenzy.
From my perspective point of view, HD2 users can create cabs to emulate games like FPSece or Morphgear, so you see they can do something to make other things run on HD2. Please dont be stereotype arturobandini it's just a suggestion.
well i had a iphone myself, and it´s not a good phone. But some applications and games are very usefull and goodlooking. and with goodlooking i mean better than applications for the HD2. So if you never had a iphone stop talking about it. it´s like the same as people talking about the bible without reading it.
yep, in the bible, turns out God did it...hope haven't ruined the ending for anyone. Can't see an emulator for Iphone as you normally need 5-10 times the power of the emulated item for good emulation and the HD2 is good but not that good. Would love some augmented reality stuff for it though, which the iphone has...
For what is reported here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee355030.aspx#portAmpConclusion if application developers want, it's not that hard to port iphone applications to windows mobile.
There is no way you can emulate iPhone OS or Android on the HD2. Emulation means you need a much more powerful hardware. The games for iPhone OS require pretty much the same hardware the HD2 has. Emulation is not possible.
You can only port them. But you would have to do it for each application and it seems very few developers are interested in porting their games to WM.
The other way would be to be able to boot that OS on your windows phone. It was actually possible on other phones like the Kaiser or the Polaris to boot Android natively.
i dont know if its possible to accomplish dual boot. One thing is get a Android Rom to HD2, but dual boot i dont know.
what about triple boot, me like
mamv said:
For what is reported here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee355030.aspx#portAmpConclusion if application developers want, it's not that hard to port iphone applications to windows mobile.
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Thx for the info mamv, after reading the website it seems possible to port
iPhone apps that's downloadable in the Apps Store to HTC. We just need some experts to do it.
erik7272 said:
well i had a iphone myself, and it´s not a good phone. But some applications and games are very usefull and goodlooking. and with goodlooking i mean better than applications for the HD2. So if you never had a iphone stop talking about it. it´s like the same as people talking about the bible without reading it.
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Yeah there are some nice apps & games in iPhone.
As I believe HD2 can do more then what people might think,
running PSX games - possible
running SEGA / Gameboy / others - possible
running iPhone downloaded apps - I'm sure it is possible.
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Thx for the info mamv, after reading the website it seems possible to port
iPhone apps that's downloadable in the Apps Store to HTC. We just need some experts to do it.
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did you really read this article? and did you also understand whats neccessary to "port" an application? you need at least the sourcecode to do so! just downloading a various app and then say "ok, i'll port it" doesn't work
if the developer is willing to port (re-code) an app, then nearly every app can be ported, from nearly every system!
HD2 is a powerful device, the i-phone NO!
Hadware 's HD2, and not just hadware has no comparison to the i-phone, which is nothing but a cell phone more evolved than others and certainly not a PocketPC (say SMARPHONE AN ALMOST, ALMOST! SINCE MAY INSTALL APLICATIONS)
.. was Publicize properly and the people I have to buy, just for curiosity !!... made the news ..... few know the real smatphone!
The developers do admire beautiful of games for the iPhone, Anvendelser per screen capacitive, g-sensor, etc. ...
Why not do the same thing for the HD2 ????... WHY HAS NOT ONLY BEHIND THE BISNES who made the I-PHONE .. ALL HERE.
I-Phone bought many years and many will buy his aplicativo .... simple!
Now with HD2 hope someone aplicativo to invest more powerful and appropriate for this smartphone with the "S" capital ...
.. the people who bought the i-phone has noticed everything that does or fails to do ...
Hello to all and excuse the English ....
Understand?
vasta.antonio said:
HD2 is a powerful device, the i-phone NO!
Hadware 's HD2, and not just hadware has no comparison to the i-phone, which is nothing but a cell phone more evolved than others and certainly not a PocketPC (say SMARPHONE AN ALMOST, ALMOST! SINCE MAY INSTALL APLICATIONS)
.. was Publicize properly and the people I have to buy, just for curiosity !!... made the news ..... few know the real smatphone!
The developers do admire beautiful of games for the iPhone, Anvendelser per screen capacitive, g-sensor, etc. ...
Why not do the same thing for the HD2 ????... WHY HAS NOT ONLY BEHIND THE BISNES who made the I-PHONE .. ALL HERE.
I-Phone bought many years and many will buy his aplicativo .... simple!
Now with HD2 hope someone aplicativo to invest more powerful and appropriate for this smartphone with the "S" capital ...
.. the people who bought the i-phone has noticed everything that does or fails to do ...
Hello to all and excuse the English ....
Understand?
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Not true: the iPhone has much more powerful Open GL capabilities than the HD2 thanks to that custom PowerVR chip, the HD2 just isn't anywhere near powerful enough to emulate any iPhone software as all it has is raw horsepower. Just because the HD2 has a faster processor does not mean it is holistically 'better' - the iPhone hardware (particularly that of the 3Gs) is very powerful from a mobile graphics standpoint at least. The HD2 can barely cope with Windows Mobile centric apps for a whole day without crashing or lagging, and just look how much much smoother pinch to zoom is on Safari than Opera... the idea that it could emulate an iPhone app is insane, although I really would like it to be true as unfortunately I'm a big social networking and IM user and sadly Windows Mobile lags depressingly behind iPhone and Android in this respect - mainly owing to the embarrassing Windows Marketplace and a lack of definition and development pushing from Microsoft.
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did you really read this article? and did you also understand whats neccessary to "port" an application? you need at least the sourcecode to do so! just downloading a various app and then say "ok, i'll port it" doesn't work
if the developer is willing to port (re-code) an app, then nearly every app can be ported, from nearly every system!
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I didn't say things will be easy porting apps from iPhone to HD2 nor it
is impossible, the main thing is that it's possible to do it.
I do not think ...
But you have a HD2? ... Or you have AI-phone "phone"?
what you say is true only in part ..
I do not doubt that Mac has a duty ottomizato the requirements to run good games, but you can not compare with a PocketPC-phone forefront as HD2 ...
HD2 has everything in the I-Phone and much more ... then if windows is a bit limited in something, just because it does not only turn the games, but all or almost do it with a PC desktop laptop!!
Understand? is not a console but could also make the console, the I-Phone not know ...
my friends at I-Phone does not do many things ... you must carry it behind the PC!
I'm sure the games they play for I-PHONE HE CAN DO EVEN FOR WINDOWS, NOW WITH HD2 ONE CAN SAY YES!
The next
What OS do you prefer: Android 2 or Win Phone 7
how will we know? no-one got ttheir hands on either yet?
its a completely subjective and pointless questin (IMHO)
google is the wolf in sheeps clothing. they call MS the bad guy while they own the world's info.
I'll take a windows HTC phone since this community will support it way better
Considering no one has WM7 how do you expect to get a decent tally from the poll at this point?
With that being said - IF the older windows mobile software will run on WM7, then I will stick with windows mobile simply because there are more apps avail.
WP7S looks much sexier than Android.
imagine if possible, what you chose?
The Android 2.x has multitasking (rather than The Android 1.x which has no multitasking)
In contrast, the Windows Phone 7 has no multitasking (while the older Windows Mobile/Phone has multitasking, including the oldest Pocket PC)..
And I REALLY NEED MULTITASKING, so I choose the Android
web 2.0 crap
i hate social networks...
stay on windows phone classic
hmm update:
android gets me
still hatin social networks....
currently the chances to be able to move any current htc device to wm7 are much much smaller then moving them to android 2
wm7 is not a follow up for wm6.X it's a different branch's which don't run wm6.x programs and require hardware other wm6.X devices don't have
so chances are if you really really like wm7 you need to get a new device
and hope that many developers head in that direction rather then android, iphone or nokia n900
because old pocketpc apps don't work
Rudegar said:
currently the chances to be able to move any current htc device to wm7 are much much smaller then moving them to android 2
wm7 is not a follow up for wm6.X it's a different branch's which don't run wm6.x programs and require hardware other wm6.X devices don't have
so chances are if you really really like wm7 you need to get a new device
and hope that many developers head in that direction rather then android, iphone or nokia n900
because old pocketpc apps don't work
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Windows Embedded CE 6.0 features a completely redesigned kernel, which supports over 32,768 processes, up from 32 process support of the previous versions. Each process receives 2GB of virtual address space, up from 32MB.
well, seems like the only choice we've left is android.
& wm 6.xx is terrible.
Judging from what i saw at MWC 2010 i'll personally stick
to winmo "classic", that's what they are calling WM6.X now.
WM 7 looked very lame and boring to me. Look like it's
bound to be a major setback for MS and a significant
growth in the Android arena. A change to radical.
patrick_spd4u said:
The Android 2.x has multitasking (rather than The Android 1.x which has no multitasking)
In contrast, the Windows Phone 7 has no multitasking (while the older Windows Mobile/Phone has multitasking, including the oldest Pocket PC)..
And I REALLY NEED MULTITASKING, so I choose the Android
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1.6 DOES multitasking.
Anyway, Android is better than WM in many aspects..
From Touch Pro to HTC Hero. Too bad it has the same qualcomm crappy procesor, but it's faster than WM and way more handy (notification bar simply rocks).
And about WM7.. I don't like it. A total downgrade.. IMO. RIP WM
So yes, i vote for Android 2
RIP Windows Mobile... I originally got you because you were so hackable and customizable, but this new version just sounds like an iPhone clone two years too late....
Android is definitely going to be where it's at for the phone hacker community (it seems...)
i will not be surprised if someone in XDA-DEV managed to cook a rom for touch pro that will support windows mobile 7..even now,with their help,we are able to boot our touch pro with android OS..just wait and see..
Is there a way to get a webOS ROM and G1 or HTC Magic? I believe the webOS SDK (https://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&layout=page&id=1788) is opensource like Android is.
Android is open sourced, but drivers for network connections aren't... There is no way to port web os for android devices... (if i'm not mistaken)
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Android is open sourced, but drivers for network connections aren't... There is no way to port web os for android devices... (if i'm not mistaken)
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They are both Linux based so why not pull the wireless from android and port it to webOS?
Drivers belong to f.e. HTC/Motorola, so there is no way to pull them from OS in usable (uncompiled) version. I think if it could be possible, there would be a lot of linux based ROMs first (like for some siemens old devices)...
It's a kind of defense from ideas like yours...
This is what I said to someone who asked this Q, but about WP7...
"Porting it to Android phones is illegal, the only exception is porting WP7 to other WinMo phones only....This is the same reason why WebOS can't be ported to other phones, you will get a C&D from Microsoft or worse if you attempt to have the OS on non-Windows phones. WP7, WinMo, WebOS, and iOS are all closed-sourced, unlike android you can't have those OSes on any device."
Now WebOS has some things that are open, but it's not fully open like Android. HP wouldn't allow such a thing, if you've try porting WinMo/WP7 , or another closed OS, you'll be told to quit it. The SDK isn't there for people to port it to other phones, but to develop apps, and other things for the pre line and other Webos native devices....And WebOS would be to slow on the 1st Gen Android phones...It was slow on the Pre 1, so it'll be slower on a 528MHz too. It's finally good on the 2nd Gen snapdragon, but look how big the Cpu Gen gap is...
sickleman said:
Drivers belong to f.e. HTC/Motorola, so there is no way to pull them from OS in usable (uncompiled) version. I think if it could be possible, there would be a lot of linux based ROMs first (like for some siemens old devices)...
It's a kind of defense from ideas like yours...
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Can a CM wireless module be edited to work with webOS? Like a webOS and CM merged rom for G1 and HTC Magic. Like some of the gingerbread roms for sapphire.
Ace42 said:
This is what I said to someone who asked this Q, but about WP7...
"Porting it to Android phones is illegal, the only exception is porting WP7 to other WinMo phones only....This is the same reason why WebOS can't be ported to other phones, you will get a C&D from Microsoft or worse if you attempt to have the OS on non-Windows phones. WP7, WinMo, WebOS, and iOS are all closed-sourced, unlike android you can't have those OSes on any device."
Now WebOS has some things that are open, but it's not fully open like Android. HP wouldn't allow such a thing, if you've try porting WinMo/WP7 , or another closed OS, you'll be told to quit it. The SDK isn't there for people to port it to other phones, but to develop apps, and other things for the pre line and other Webos native devices....And WebOS would be to slow on the 1st Gen Android phones...It was slow on the Pre 1, so it'll be slower on a 528MHz too. It's finally good on the 2nd Gen snapdragon, but look how big the Cpu Gen gap is...
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WP7 is closed sourced that is the big deference.
chris122380 said:
Can a CM wireless module be edited to work with webOS? Like a webOS and CM merged rom for G1 and HTC Magic. Like some of the gingerbread roms for sapphire.
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I don't think so... There was new type of java developed for Android (dalvik-java). I don't know how the WebOS is written, but it's not the same programming language for sure. Crossprogramming/crosscompiling is like copy polish text to english homework. Trust me, it won't work at all.
Dokładnie jak teraz, nie sądzę, żebyś cokolwiek z tego co tutaj piszę zrozumiał, ale i tak pozdrawiam Ciebie, jak również innych polaków korzystających z XDA.
But there is one possibility to run WebOS on our devices! You have to write everything on your own. If you want write new drivers for network/gps/camera/etc modules you have to know how they are communicating with each others, and have a lot time and skills and informations (like datasheets for all microcontrollers in device) for writing all starting from nothing...
(There are problems in porting Honeycomb for other than originally supported devices... If it is so hard, about WebOS i think you can forget...)
Ofcourse everything is possible (like MacOSx on f.e. AMD or Atom based processors), but not everything is profitable. There have to be some issues causing HP abandon WebOS (and making it worst from other OSs) (I'm speculating, I don't know how WebOS is working and how is to work on WebOS..).
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I know what I'm talking about...WebOS is closed sourced...You can't port it to non-palm/HP devices at all...It's not legal...
http://forums.precentral.net/webos-discussion/292920-we-need-team-port-webos-android-devices.html
If you don't believe goto that thread, or make a new one asking the question, the pal devs will tell you it can't be done.
So there is no way to get Android to look like webOS.
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So there is no way to get Android to look like webOS.
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There are themes that were made very very long ago, doubt you'll find them again. However the "wave launcher" from WebOS is on Android, on the market.
http://androidcommunity.com/android-team-forced-to-pull-palm-pre-theme-20090814/
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There are themes that were made very very long ago, doubt you'll find them again. However the "wave launcher" from WebOS is on Android, on the market.
http://androidcommunity.com/android-team-forced-to-pull-palm-pre-theme-20090814/
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Have been looking for the theme as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1251829
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Will this now be possible now that HP has open sourced WebOS?
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Since WebOS is open source this is very "do-able", hell they ported Android to the iPhone, why not WebOS to an Android Device?
How do you think Android is going to get when Ubuntu, Tizen, or even Firefox OS appear?
I find Android really wasteful in resources, and any developer will confirm that Android can't get the max out of any hardware (due to Java VM)
Until now, Android didn't actually have any competitor, iOS is closed source, and Apple makes 1000$ devices, and phones with Android with the same specs (or better) are at no more than 800$ (correct me, I don't use $ in Romania)... The other competitor is still existent, Windows... it is really smooth, fast, looks cool, but it seems to be a marketing fail+not open source
Tizen and Firefox OS seem to be having only HTML5-based apps... which means it will be a rendering engine processing everything... just another kind of VM in my opinion they have the same smoothness Android has, from what I saw
However, Ubuntu seems to be a lot like the PC version, smooth, fast, user friendly, and will be able to run NATIVE (no VM) applications, which will make it a lot faster, even for lower end devices
Where do you think Android is going to go when they will be released? Yes, I am asking you and expressing my opinion, please Google before answering (yes, one cool thing about Android is the full Google integration)
Tizen - announced to be released this year
Ubuntu and Firefox OS - 2014
I really don't know the answer.
I've never seen Tizen and FF OS so I can't tell.
I know iOS and Windows aren't open source so we can't "deal" with them.
Ubuntu isn't user friendly at all, in fact, all Linux is NOT user friendly, at least comparing to Windows.
Right now, I just enjoy the beauty of Android until some things blow it away.
votinh said:
I really don't know the answer.
I've never seen Tizen and FF OS so I can't tell.
I know iOS and Windows aren't open source so we can't "deal" with them.
Ubuntu isn't user friendly at all, in fact, all Linux is NOT user friendly, at least comparing to Windows.
Right now, I just enjoy the beauty of Android until some things blow it away.
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Linux is just the kernel Ubuntu is a distro, and Android can also be called a distro, but for mobile platform
Re: [Q] Future of Android
A good question with uncertain answer. We can't say about the future of android.
But what i can say is that a new device with new platform will take some time to get good market. Since android is the largest selling platform in the world it takes some time to survive the competition.
Android will be fine. Ubuntu didn't convince majority to leave their investment in Windows, and they'll have same problem moving people from android.
Allanitomwesh said:
Android will be fine. Ubuntu didn't convince majority to leave their investment in Windows, and they'll have same problem moving people from android.
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Ubuntu can't convince me to switch because I can't give the PC to anyone, they say "wtf is that sh*t?"
And plus, it is a lot harder to get the drivers for my Optimus laptop... and gaming is slower in wine if more games had native clients for Linux
Re: [Q] Future of Android
Go with ubuntu you will never be mistaken........
I hate my X and love my Next.......... Conditions apply*
Google might expand the NDK API (native development kit) so you could make an entire app with it. Anyway i think most Games is written using it nowdays, since Java is so (too) slow.
The Google ecosystem is getting so large, i don't think that Ubuntu will have the resources to get anywhere near that.
Talking about Future of Android, I heard that WINE application which run in linux is being developed for android
Re: [Q] Future of Android
In future android will surely come up very much..
May be the andriod can interact by talking.
At that time we will ask mods to build our regional languages
Re: [Q] Future of Android
I wonder if a sensor that is capable of detecting our eyeball movement, that could be used for scrolling and other purposes
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Re: [Q] Future of Android
swaroopg551 said:
I wonder if a sensor that is capable of detecting our eyeball movement, that could be used for scrolling and other purposes
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SIV's eyeScroll?
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swaroopg551 said:
I wonder if a sensor that is capable of detecting our eyeball movement, that could be used for scrolling and other purposes
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Actually, I hate solutions that try to "think" for me, and guess what I want to do. Even if they are right 70%, they are still wrong the other 30%...
And it feels like my phone (or a car, or whatever) is forcing me to do things I do not want to do. That a developer thinks he is smarter than me.
I get used to functionalities presented this way but they are still irritating.
I just imagined a number of times this eyeball movement sensor would be wrong... wrrrrr....