hi boys
i really need your help
i so confused about what mobile i should to get
omnia 2 or hd touch
i love the interface of htc but finally i can see that same thing we can do it on omnia 2 by roms
and i love omnia coz the speed of cpu mor than hd
so plz
helpppppppppppppppppppppppppppp me
Compared to older HTC devices (Diamond, Diamond 2 etc.) Omnia 2 is really FAST and the big screen is killer. But the device is crippled by Samsung software. It does also strange things like closing apps if you have opened more than 3 or 4. There's a hack for this but still..... But why not HD2?
I prefer HTC HD, even if it´s a bit older design is much much nicer and it´s HTC
Softwares, games from Qualcomm processor phones are mostly compatible with HTC HD. However if you do not mind losing those stuff, you might want to get Omnia II to get the wonderful AMOLED screen and the 800mhz processor.
i have a omnia i8000 and it works great. Out of the box very low RAM, it true samsnug apps kill the phone. The first thing i would do is disable touchwiz and flash a custom lite ROM on the phone and it works just fine. The apps closing someone minchioned above is because of low RAM, when the RAM gets low it auto closes apps which i have not experenced yet on my phone.
The main problem with the phone is openGL drivers samsnug made ****ty drivers so lots of programs that rely on opengl do not work, well they work but are slow. Apps like SBP moble shell carousel, SBP work fine it just the carousel and some games. All the games i have tried worked jus fine.
Never had a htc HD so i can't comment, if you go omnia your gonna have to tweak the **** out of it.
All i can say is the omnia dose have flaws, but overall a great phone and works fine for me. I love the screen and the phone is just great and the community is getting stronger so more people will try to support it. It the best phone price vs specs.
thanks for every one try to help me in this problem
but i can say that i still little confused
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A device has now been tested www.gsmarena.com/samsung_b7610_omniapro-review-378.php
What are your thoughts? Is this a match for the TP2?
I hate to say it, but im swayed by this device to move away from HTC until they bring the next touch/keyboard device (TP3?)
I still prefer TP2!
The only point I can see is not better is in processor, but I´ll wait patiently to see the 09-10 HTC new models!
ooh i dont know that seems prettty nice.... but since its probably not coming to tmobile here in the us i think i have no choice but to go iwth the touch pro 2, it will probably go to Verizon cause they where the only one to get the last omnia
A match? To be honest, I'm not seeing how the Touch Pro 2 is supposed to be better or even equal to a phone that has an AMOLED screen and 800Mhz Cortex A8 processor. The B7610 even beats the TP2 in little things like camera and ROM storage amount.
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A device has now been tested www.gsmarena.com/samsung_b7610_omniapro-review-378.php
What are your thoughts? Is this a match for the TP2?
I hate to say it, but im swayed by this device to move away from HTC until they bring the next touch/keyboard device (TP3?)
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That's old news... I was not impressed.
Im so impatient, I dont think I can wait til the next version of the Touch Pro is available. The TP2 has only just been released and therefore its probably going to be another 12 months.
The fact the Samsung is lighter, better screen, camera (inc flash), I have to admit im tempted
.... and you have Samsung build quality which is, in my experience, awesome..... unlike my experience of HTC's which is frankly, awefull.
You will be able to get many cooked roms over at omnia.modaco.com and you will get just as much support from them and here when combined.
i'm gutted I bought my Acer m900 only to THEN find out about the Omnia Pro (the acers great but ....)
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That's old news... I was not impressed.
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It was dated "GSMArena team, 20 July 2009. " .... i'd hardly call that old!
I used to have a Touch HD and video performance was a letdown. Don't get me wrong the HD is a magnificent device, but not being able to watch videos as they should be on this great screen was dissapointing. I tried many different encoders, like doctor divx, nero recode and the encoder made for this device but none of them gave me satisfiyng results. Especially considering that I had to REENCODE a complete movie, this process could easily take several hours. Many tweaks drivers etc never gave me full satisfaction. I made tons of little clips to test the best possible performance for the least amount of encoding time and my findigs were that my best option was to reencode with Nero at a maximum resolution of 524 and max bitrate of 700 and selecting Quicktime compatibility for the MPEG ASP. So I ended up with tons of clips, each time trying wich is the best. The following things were particularly frustrating.
- No out of the box divx/xvid support
- playback of divx/xvid with coreplayer or any other 3rd party player was slow and laggy
- No standard MPEG 4 ASP support, for example videos recorded on other devices like Nokia's wouldn't play. Also many programs would create incompatible mp4 files for this device. Later I found out because it doesnt support the Advanced Simple Profile but only the Simple Profile. (Quicktime compatible)
- No standard MPEG 4 AVC support, as the point above the only way to make mp4 video work on this device was to use the encoder program wich was very very very slow. (on my pc at least) Files created with nero or xvid or any other VC-1 encoder would fail to play on this device.
- Even videos created with the special encoder would play fine, but seeking and switching from fullscreen to portrait etc was always lagging.
NOW : I bought a Samsung Omnia PRO B7610 and man it's a world of difference. Seriously this device is awesome for video playback. Smooth playback, fast mode switching, fast seeking forward. I mean everything wich was wrong with the HD is right with this device. I hadn't deleted my bunch of test clips for the HD and this device plays nearly all of them without a problem. And the best part is, I don't have to reencode anything anymore. Every divx/xvid video I tried played flawlessly. Lost episodes downloaded from the web at 624 resolution look perfect on the Amoled Screen, and play perfectly smooth. Well I am certainly satisfied with this device.
samsung b7610
where did you get this deveice from , i've been waiting for it for a long time. does anyone have any idea about a UK release date. i've been scouring the internet and can't find a thing.
I got it online from pdashop / Coolblue. Price for just the phone without contract was 468 euros. You can probably find it cheaper online, but I was prepared to give a little more to get my hands on this a soon as possible.
tuntang said:
where did you get this deveice from , i've been waiting for it for a long time. does anyone have any idea about a UK release date. i've been scouring the internet and can't find a thing.
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It appears not to be in the UK until 7th Oct. clove.co.uk have it and also Play.com both about £399 inc VAT
steve7702 said:
It appears not to be in the UK until 7th Oct. clove.co.uk have it and also Play.com both about £399 inc VAT
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I love all this new found competition and new companies entering the Winmob market, prices of high end devices are tumbling!
maryjohn said:
Hey all..
I get whole briefly details of Samsung Omnia Pro, hey i m agree it's processor is not much more better compare to HTC, but yet i like samsung due to it's big feature screen resolution..
i like most it screen size as well as sound quality and operating system.. hey it's deserve to 9 point out of 10.
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What do you mean its a 272mhz difference on cpu not much but on a phone at this time it is a significant difference.
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What do you mean its a 272mhz difference on cpu not much but on a phone at this time it is a significant difference.
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MHz mith and people who know nothing about processor design, gota love it.
google mhz, ghz, processor design and learn. You can NOT compare simple MHZ.
Samsung: Better cpu, Better camera, no tilt screen (a plus for me)
I think I would still prefer the HTC Touch Pro until this get´s cheaper .
now i've got the new Samsung Omnia Pro GT-B7610
Can anybody tell me when the new WM 6.5 will be available for that phone?
If only it had ATT 3g capability, I'd be on it like a flea on a dog...
why not have the guys over at modaco cook up a full fledged HTC rom with manila 2.5/2.6 and other HTC goodies instead of the samsung apps??
i mean all the HTC goodies in a 800MHZ CPU with a dedicated GFX accelerator and a AMOLED screen = PERFECT
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why not have the guys over at modaco cook up a full fledged HTC rom with manila 2.5/2.6 and other HTC goodies instead of the samsung apps??
i mean all the HTC goodies in a 800MHZ CPU with a dedicated GFX accelerator and a AMOLED screen = PERFECT
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in the words of my favourite film "Chill Winston"
They will, very soon I would imagine. Modaco has been the major source of Omnia I900 roms and I have no doubt it will be so for the new Omnia's.
Isn't it a dilemma to buy a phone now. Constant fear of a better version coming out within a couple of months...
So far, a lot of eyes are on the n900 and the HD2. I am not too much of a fan of the Droid - and the Xperia 10 - well that still has potential.
But then we are expecting some Nvidia Tegra 2 based mobile phones as well - not only promising very good graphics performance for gaming - but good battery life.
Then there is always, albeit quite far off - the chance apple decide to do a decent update to the 3GS (I mean, last 2 years, have only been updates to the 3G, so its about time they do something great this year right? Especially with the huge amount of new technology available).
I am stumped, I mean, I really don't know what to do. Buy the HD2, or the N900 - or wait it out for the new phones Q1 2010, or wait Q2/3 2010.
I am looking for, a laptop replacement to be honest - something I can do my browsing and so fourth on comfortably - go on websites like mini clip without hassle - maybe have good game playability. Also, would like to use it for things like BBC iplayer etc - good video recording/camera - so in a way - it seems n900 seems suitable - but then what knocks you back is that it only has a 600 mhz processor, compared to the 1GHZ processors being available - as well as a couple of other shortcomings. Every phone seems to be missing some things - but I guess no one can expect a perfect phone . Do you think, if I wait for 6 months, I could be looking at a very decent laptop replacing phone? I am, at the moment, worried about the lack of battery life on these upcoming ones - which I hope will be amended in the near future?
I guess I am quite optimistic about the Nvidia Tegra 2 based phone - in fact I am just excited at what the possibilities will be - coming early 2010 - but at the same time - frustration - as everything seems to be getting updated really quickly...
So, what about you guys?
Welcome to forums
Well you can wait forever for the "perfect" device or decide that you can't wait any longer and buy one from the existent ones.
Also will depend on how much $ you wanna spent.
From the actual ones I can recommend:
The best with hardware keyboard: Touch Pro 2
The best with no hardware kb: HD2
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!
Welcome to HTC XDA! As orb said, the HD2 & TP2 are the tops now...see their forum sections for detailed info on them...
What is the opinions of xda forumers on the n900? Potentially it could be huge?
One thing that annoys me about HD2 is - that it is too much makeup on 6.5 - if you get my drift? It is like it is trying to be something its not - while other OS's - seem "proper", I know it all sounds weird - I really don't know how to put it. It is like 6.5 has just had a haircut, beard trim etc to try to compete with the other OS's in terms of UI/touch screen compatibility.
Nokia perhaps is a good device but it has EDIT: maemo on it which I don´t really like...
I´ll recommend you an HTC WM device
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Nokia perhaps is a good device but it has symbian on it which I don´t really like...
I´ll recommend you an HTC WM device
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n900 has Maemo 5 OS.
lolol
@ ma2k5
You wont get any unbiased info from these chaps....
They cant see past the HTC logo......I think Obr3000 gets paid to post sometimes, just posts.
Hi - I buy HTc
Htc
Htc
lolol - I jest - they are all good guys....
Its got worse here over last few years (no I am joking)
Seriously
Touch Pro 2 is a good device for web browsing when using Opera 9.5+ but it is in NO way a next gen device.
But - Opera 10 is now out and available on S60 V5 platform - which is already running on new hardware on devices from samsung and sony... his is a better browsing experience at the moment, it runs OMAP 3 platform with THAT 600MHZ processor you were talking about.
I have a Touch pro 2 and an OMnia HD - side by side the OMnia is faster and smoother when comparing opera builds. Albeit at a lower resolution.....
My touch pro 2 is not quite as good as I expected it to be.
My last HTC device - HTC advantage - bought what, 3 years ago seems to run at a similar pace to this NEW Touch pro 2. Versatile and good to hack but such shabby build, camera sucks cattle, not enough buttons until you open it....
BUT the support from THIS site means that the device is AMAZING!!!!
If it wasnt for XDA dev - the touch pro 2 would just not be viable for me.
The thing to keep in Mind is that Mhz means nothing nowdays.
My Core2Duo on my PC is 2.4 Ghz per core - but each core will still outperform my old P4 3 ghz chip/// as all the buses that transfer the data are many times faster on newer platforms, plus extra tech makes the comparison even less relevant.
What I am saying here is that the 1ghz qualcomm chipies aint going to worry OMAP 3 chips running at 600 + Mhz, performance will be similar.....
Personally, as an owner of many HTC devices AND Nokia AND Samsung Omnia HD if I had the choice now, I would go with the N900 as its new and I think its going to be a killer mature platform
Then again - if I didnt have this touch pro 2 - that can do virtually EVERYTHING I want it to - spotify last fm web ftp full network access - VNC - remote desktop Logme in, Web video downloader, BBC iplayer - My player supporting Hulu channel 4 on demand,
ZENONIA RPG BLISS!!! + all social networking u can do. - Then more than likely I would go for the touch pro 2 again - then look on enviously at the N900.....
The main thing is that I end up carrying another phone for camera and music as this touch pro seems to destroy connectors that convert to 3.5 and its pointless taking shots with it....
I say get a cheaper old Touch pro 1 for the time being (same Hardware as Touch pro 2 just no huge screen) - second hand for what £150 or something......then get a N900 on contract with data connection when your up for upgrade probably for very little $$
Then you will be in tech bliss
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n900 has Maemo 5 OS.
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Thanks for that correction
Anyway my thinking is the same, I´ll stay with WM
The only WM phone I am waiting right now is clamshell type with a powerful processor. I don't care who will make it first, HTC, Sony, Samsung, etc...
Im on Android since more a year now, starting with T-Mobile Pulse and since summer, going on with my HTC Desire.
My question is, why android needs this power of hardware, in order to run smooth. The old iPhone 2G got nearly same hardware to the pulse (550 MHz, 256 MB RAM etc), but was much faster(smoother). Ive read a lot about hardware optimised code fpr ARM7 or similar, but the performance is still poor, even with overclock on leedroid 2.2...
On my second computer with a intel pentium III Chopperine 933 MHz i could realy good surf the internet, even nowadays, or play games like battlefield 1942 or counterstrike.
Could it be possible, to improve the perfomance by hand otimising the code? Would even spend time on this, able to prog, but at first i want to her your oppinions.
Greets from Germany and sorry for my poor english
The fluid ui that the iPhone has is mostly because they use gpu accelerated support. Android for some reason does not and I think only minor ui features are done on the gpu, some phones might have custom work done and its why it feels more fluid or less slow.
The other thing is a iPhone is standard in hardware. You don't have the issue of a iPhone 4 with or without more memory or less. It's easier to code and optimize when you have only a set of rules.
What are you doing to your phones??
I have a Nexus One (same hardware as the Desire) and i'd willingly challenge any iphone 4 user to a speed contest
GPU accelerated GUIs make sense to me, but die missing feature in Android doesnt really make sense. As we know, there is an AMD Z340 GPU inside, could it be possible to make it boost the graphics in 2D mode?
What iam doing with my desire? whoa, even surfing this page without the xda app isnt really fun, just slowy moving flash sucks performacne in huge numbers, that websites arent rally usable at all when running a video.
Now on Desire, most thinks are running fluently, but there are still lags, even with the custom rom. Using the Pulse was horrible, while it got 550MHz CPU and 192 MB ram. remember, its a mobile!
Here is a german report about software tweaking, which could make software 5 times, if the developers would reconcentrade on the used hardware again, like they have to do on gaming systems like GBA or newer. GBA got abot 3MHz! but runs Pokemon very well. Now imagine what could be possible, if our operating system would be better written.
Question again: it is possible to do some tweaks on a kernel or eveb androiditself without being msater coder?
The sensation setion on Fpse (PS1 emulator) has be opened today
http://www.fpsece.net/forum2/viewforum.php?f=44
Every feedback of Fpse running on the HTC Sensation is welcome !
So far, I'm not really happy with the results, it seems that an Xplay defeats my Sensation, so I'm sure there's a lot of space for optimization here!
I definitly hope Schtruck will have a look at it
I guess Fpse uses only one core so far, that's the only explaination I can find.
Every info, feedback, opinion, experience might be useful
Thanks !
99% android apps dont take advantage out of the additional core. And it will take some time until they do because they have to be programed differently. So i guess for an emulator like FPSE your performance should be about the same as on a DesireHD with singlecore 1.2ghz.
But then the Xperia Play has the about the same hardware as the DHD so i dont know :/
What games do you have fps issues with? I run almost everything at full speed that i tried (TombRaider 3, Ridge Racer, FF7, Resident Evil) on my DesireHD at 1.1ghz.
I know Schtruck has better results for Tekken 3, with screen filtering ON, with his Xplay
(tekken 3 has always been my reference for test, since 2009, when I was beta testing with my Omnia 1 i900 )
I remember when we started to have multitouch on the HD2, firts with Morphgear, then for FpseCE, when originally the HD2 only supported pinch to zoom, and the OS was not supposed to handle multitouch.......
So now we have a dual core device, the OS doesn't support dual core except for a few HTC homebrews? I hope devs will manage to fix all this, it's kind of the same situation, having to bypass a limitation due to the OS using what HTC did for some apps
It will come eventually. But implementing working dualcore support isnt an easy thing to do from what i've heard^^ Its not the same thing as using multitouch.
Even on PC where multicore is established for years, support is still very basic. But im not a programmer so maybe someone else could explain it in details or use the mighty google.
I know how to use google, don't worry, but I've also seen many miracles since I've been in smartphones world, like for example playing tekken 2 full speed on a 624mhz CPU and no GPU or graphic chip, and I now cross my fingers.
hey all i am planning to buy a new android phone, and my history is a wildfire(cm7.1) which i sold, and i am currently owning an htc hd7( with xboxmod rom). and i am not that much happy with windows 7 phone( and cant find any android rom for it).
so.......
well i am planning to sell hd7 and buy an android phone.
i am confused with a lot of android phones around, so i decided to ask you people.
my specifations are..
1) hdpi screen 800*480
2) 1 or 1.2 ghz chipset( qualacom or tegra??) with a min 512 mb ram
3)good gpu,( i dont play that much, but like to make apps and graphics faster)
4) blue tooth 2 or 2.1 with a2dp.
5)some internal memory( 512mb - 2gb range) and mor than 8gb external micro sd support.
6) wifi b/g/(if i can get then n too)
7) good hsdpa speed( i mean 3g)
8)and all sensors needed for android device( we can omit gyro)
9) 5mp cam with 720p video rec( i have sonyericsson c905 for photo, lol 8mp cybershot phone).
10) a good battery life( like 4-5 hours calling/browsing in 2g or 3g, 5-8 hrs video/audio playback, and i really care about audio quality through headphones, it needs to be good)
these are my hardware spec, now my software spec are..
1) i should be able to load honeycomb( if a rom is available for the device), and may be upto icecream sandwich( little overkill??)
2) easily bootloader unlockable and rootable( i dont want to pay for it)
3) i need the best roms to be loaded into it( like cm, miui, etc and i never care for stock roms, as we can flash anything to it.)
4) multi bootable( if i get some thing like hd2 or so??, ) well its not a need, but if i can have it, then i am ok.
i like to have a htc( top priority), sonyericsson, or samsung device. well probably a phone with top spec in a middle class budget ( some thing that cost like htc desire S.). nop i am not going after latest workstations with tegra 2 cpu 1.2 or 1.4 ghz. which costs a lot money
what are your options?? does it worth to by the "old legend" HTC HD2? or you have better options?
Which problem is with HD7 ??
I'd recommend the Galaxy S II, it meets the majority of your requirements and should get an ICS official update soon
Galaxy S II my man. Everything you need. It will be with T-Mobile, Sprint, and AT&T.
1. 2.3 Gingerbread OS, up-gradable to ISC
2. 4.3 Super AMOLED screen with 1080p recording
3. 1.2GHz dual-core
4. 18 hr talk time battery
5. 1Gb Ram, 32Gb Internal memory with up to 32Gb memory slot
and more...
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Good luck
all about s2.. but dudes i am personaly an htc fan, though i also accept sonyericsson. but not thatmuch used with samsung.. coz, in the hardware respect, i have seen that htc have much more classy finish and are quite problem free.. also samsung is a newer in android / smartphone market, where as htc has proven their lagency in smatphone market. so pls pick an htc device. what about dezire hd?
I would suggest the HTC EVO 3D or the HTC sensation XL all the way....
If you want to save some money, then I would go for the Desire S.
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all about s2.. but dudes i am personaly an htc fan, though i also accept sonyericsson. but not thatmuch used with samsung.. coz, in the hardware respect, i have seen that htc have much more classy finish and are quite problem free.. also samsung is a newer in android / smartphone market, where as htc has proven their lagency in smatphone market. so pls pick an htc device. what about dezire hd?
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Oh! Ok, I also I like the HTC's android devices. The latest and fastest HTC are.
1. HTC Rezound (Verizon)
2. HTC Vivid (AT&T)
3. HTC Amaze (T-mobile)
4. HTC Evo Design (Sprint)
These are the latest and fastest with alot of memory HTC phones.
Take the Galaxy S 2 or the Galaxy Nexus. For a cheap and good for modding take the galaxy si9000
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