I don't know about anyone else, but I'm majorly annoyed by the recent trend of a lot of touchscreen mobile phone manufacturers to do away with the d-pad (seems to especially be a trend in winmo based phones).
By doing this, the said companies are rendering a whole boatload of legacy software useless. Yes, I know there are software solutions to the missing d-pad, but I just don't understand why they should take it away. A good case in point is the Omnia II (yes, I know this isn't and HTC phone, but it perfectly illustrates my point) - they stick a large button slap bang in the middle of the bottom of the phone....and what does it do? Implements task switcher or the more than useless cube interface!!! Why??? Stick a d-pad in it's place...far more useful and functional.
I'd love to know why the manufacturers are doing this. Can anybody shed any light on this trend?
maybe iphone started a trend
and htc didn't think many users used the pad?
personally I'm happy my x1 got it as I use it to turn page when reading ebooks
I agree with you. Why stick a useless button in the device if a d-pad is much more functional. I may skip over the touch pro2 because of this. Hopefully some of their newer phones get one, or else I'll have to keep my 5 year old blueangel.
Rudegar said:
maybe iphone started a trend
and htc didn't think many users used the pad?
personally I'm happy my x1 got it as I use it to turn page when reading ebooks
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Maybe you're right about the iphone, in which case I think it's a bad move on the part of the winmo phone manufacturers. The iphone has multitouch, allowing it to emulate various hardware controls on screen, but there's no such luxury with winmo phones....the guys in the winmo phone labs need to be leaders not followers...come on Mr winmo, re-instate the d-pad, it's the sensible option!!!
Hello XDA!
I've searched around but have not found a specific topic regarding suggestions of well made resistive screen tablets. What I am looking for is a tablet where writing with a stylus is very easy (like HTC Flyer) but less expensive. Most tablets sporting the stylus seem to be "cheap" ... Does anyone have suggestions on tablet in the 7"-10" range that has a decent set of specs, can be upgraded to Honeycomb (even if unofficial, I can deal with that) and can be found for less than the Flyer (which is going for like $300 now) ... ???
Or just point me to the topic that I missed when searching
Thanks!
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you can buy a capacitive (sp?) stylus for under 10 dollars. find an app that's made for handwriting recognition (i'm sure there are plenty) and you're done.
If you NEED something that comes prepackaged with good stylus software, look into the galaxy note or the lenovo thinkpad.
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you can buy a capacitive (sp?) stylus for under 10 dollars. find an app that's made for handwriting recognition (i'm sure there are plenty) and you're done.
If you NEED something that comes prepackaged with good stylus software, look into the galaxy note or the lenovo thinkpad.
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Ya, I would do what he says, meaning get a stylus. I would check out the Amazon Fire, im sure eventually it will get Honeycomb threw hacking, and it is $200.
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hi there,
i want to buy me a tablet, but i'm unsure.
i just heard the htc flyer coming out and i wondered that they pronounced it could use a pen.
isn't there a way to use other talbets with a pen? u can use a pen for ipad, but isn't the technology quite similar in all those tabletes (with android)?
hope you can help me
Hi.. guys. is it just me or office 2013 metro version really doesnt support drawing?
what device are you using?
MS surface RT... i know it works on pro.. but why doesnt on RT? thats like the most basic function ever..
I dont own a windows tablet at all yet but I was of the understanding that onenote only supported drawing/writing with a wacom or sony digitiser (the surface pro has a wacom digitiser). None of the RT devices have that and only a few of the full windows 8 tablets do. I could of course be wrong, there might well be a way to get it to recognise capacitative input for drawing
Completely pisses me off. If you want to draw you have to go to the desktop version.
It's because a capacitive stylus is seen as just another finger. The program has no way of differentiating between you wanting to draw, and you wanting to scroll.
They decided to get rid of most of the interface, and so they made a design decision for writing and drawing to only work when it detects a pen (aka an active digitizer pen such as a Wacom one).
You also can't change the color or line thickness in the Metro OneNote, even if you have a Wacom pen.
If you want to draw in OneNote, just use the desktop version (and put it in fullscreen mode). It works just as well with touch, and the interface is just as minimal in that mode.
Though for serious drawing, you'll probably want an app that is better designed for that purpose anyway.
well its a bit ironical that company with "best" office software made one note mx... which is basicly worst counterpart of every single note-taking app in iOS or even android....i dont know what it is good for then... its touch made and yet you have to use your keyboard and you CANT draw.... tbh i have second thoughts about whole surface RT:.
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well its a bit ironical that company with "best" office software made one note mx... which is basicly worst counterpart of every single note-taking app in iOS or even android....i dont know what it is good for then... its touch made and yet you have to use your keyboard and you CANT draw.... tbh i have second thoughts about whole surface RT:.
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I would agree entirely. The Metro version is worthless. Just use the desktop version, which again, works great with touch.
Hello guys,
First of all I'm sorry if my grammar or general "english use" sucks but be patient, it's not my mother language.
I would like to ask some help taking a decision.
Let me introduce my needs first:
I'm on the market to replace my old and trusty iPad mini (i know, i know Apple's devices bring horrible nightmares to all XDA users). I'd want a compact tablet (8" to 8.4 screen) that can easily slide in my bag and follow me everywhere, from university lectures to various trips. One of the main function I'd want to improve on is handwritten notes: as it is on my iPad i can't do it and I end up simply downloading professor's slides to read them easier but still writing up to 3000 pages of notes per year, and you know that paper loves to get lost or hide when you need it. Combining it with the constant need of raw power for games i'm left with very few choices, none of them 100% suited for me (unless Samsung decides to include his majesty the S-pen on the Tab S 8.4).
So, coming back to what i'm willing to ask to you, Nvidia Shield Tablet owners: would you reccomend this tablet for hand written notes? And by that i mean: writing on this tablet is almost as fast and comfortable as writing on the good old paper with an ink pen?
If not, what else would you buy, considering that the ability to run smoothly something like Asphalt 8 it's a must have?
Thank you very much in advance.
Matteo
I bought this tablet to replace a Galaxy Note 10.1
I use the Shield Tablet with the MyScript Smart Note app.
Comparing this to Galaxy Note 10.1 + LectureNotes app (My fav at the time of ownership), it's pretty close, but not quite as good.
Writing is accurate enough for me, but not quite as good as the note.
And the smaller screen makes it a little harder to write as well (Worth it for the smaller size to carry around though).
Compared to paper, I think the convenience is way better.
The only real downside there is the lack of friction on the 'paper'.
Even with an invisishield screen protector, the tablet writes a lot smoother than a piece of paper. This is by far the biggest downside in my opinion, but it's easy enough to get used to.
Great Tablet for everything not just writing
DemiosNC said:
Hello guys,
First of all I'm sorry if my grammar or general "english use" sucks but be patient, it's not my mother language.
I would like to ask some help taking a decision.
Let me introduce my needs first:
I'm on the market to replace my old and trusty iPad mini (i know, i know Apple's devices bring horrible nightmares to all XDA users). I'd want a compact tablet (8" to 8.4 screen) that can easily slide in my bag and follow me everywhere, from university lectures to various trips. One of the main function I'd want to improve on is handwritten notes: as it is on my iPad i can't do it and I end up simply downloading professor's slides to read them easier but still writing up to 3000 pages of notes per year, and you know that paper loves to get lost or hide when you need it. Combining it with the constant need of raw power for games i'm left with very few choices, none of them 100% suited for me (unless Samsung decides to include his majesty the S-pen on the Tab S 8.4).
So, coming back to what i'm willing to ask to you, Nvidia Shield Tablet owners: would you reccomend this tablet for hand written notes? And by that i mean: writing on this tablet is almost as fast and comfortable as writing on the good old paper with an ink pen?
If not, what else would you buy, considering that the ability to run smoothly something like Asphalt 8 it's a must have?
Thank you very much in advance.
Matteo
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First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the year.
I own a LG G Pad 8.3 and a Nvidia shield tablet (NST). The NST is recently purchased so I cannot say its perfect yet when it comes to writing. In my opinion the option of having palm rejection in the NST is delightful which makes writing comfortable. I am currently using Smart note as well but I also use WPS Office (kingsoft Office)--(with the stylus beta app) for handwriting and converting into text if I need something compatible with Microsoft word. The stylus is slippery on the NST I had better control with the LG since I had a screen protector and was using the joint sylus pro which I think is amazing for writing. ( I am actually thinking of adding a screen protector just to use the joint stylus pro with the NST because rumor has it it scratches the screen). The hand recognition in the NST is really good and I think good apps from the play store will give you the experience you are looking for.
I hope this helps, if you have questions I am happy to assist.
sorry if the writing is messy but I got to go for now.
Good luck
FYI I am also in UNI and I do a lot of writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
OneNote. Just use OneNote. With this tablet, it is by far, par.
Edit: OneNote w/ IFTTT. I'm getting some stuff DONE!
Thank you everyone for the support, now for each answer:
Eogram said:
I bought this tablet to replace a Galaxy Note 10.1 [...] is by far the biggest downside in my opinion, but it's easy enough to get used to.
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So, as I was thinking, the Note family from Samsung is still the best for notes in your experience? Frankly, I'm not a kid anymore (unfortunately) so if I have to choose beetwen "usefulness" and games I have to pick the first to justify the money spent...
Moeali8 said:
First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the [...] writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
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The G-Pad was one of my first thoughts having a G3 wich I'm loving (almost), but I'm not sure it is an improvement in practicality over the iPad.
I've seen that wierd stylus and I thought it was insanely expensive, but now I see it's only 30$...Worth it?
Being an automotive engineering student, my notes are all about graphs, schemes and sketches so I need accuracy and predictibility in how the tablet translates my movements as well as a reliable software that ignores palm and wrist inputs on the screen (that's my biggest complain on the iPad).
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OneNote. Just use OneNote. With this tablet, it is by far, par.
Edit: OneNote w/ IFTTT. I'm getting some stuff DONE!
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OneNote relies on the NST stylus recognition or it has a built-in feature?
Side note: the Nexus 9....looks goood another contender? xD
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Thank you everyone for the support, now for each answer:
So, as I was thinking, the Note family from Samsung is still the best for notes in your experience? Frankly, Im not a kid anymore (unfortunately) so if I have to choose beetwen "usefulness" and games I have to pick the first to justify the money spent.
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If I was looking for a serious note taking piece of hardware... Yeah, I'd probably go with a note. I would also probably invest in a separate active stylus to use with it. The Note 10.1(2012) came with a pretty cheap feeling one. Light hollow plastic, not fun to use.
What you lose by going that route is a good AOSP-like experience. I don't like Samsung S touch wiz ui at all. And you can flash an aosp rom on it, but the stylus loses some features.
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If I was looking for a serious note taking piece of hardware... Yeah, I'd probably go with a note. I would also probably invest in a separate active stylus to use with it. The Note 10.1(2012) came with a pretty cheap feeling one. Light hollow plastic, not fun to use.
What you lose by going that route is a good AOSP-like experience. I don't like Samsung S touch wiz ui at all. And you can flash an aosp rom on it, but the stylus loses some features.
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I don't have the exact english phrase to say that but I'll translate litterally: seems like you're reading my toughts...
I spent the last 4 years of my life as an Apple fan boy because i was thinking that android was only Samsung...The touchwiz is insanely overloaded so that is my biggest concern about following the "samsung route"...
Anyways, today I took a look at the tab s 8.4 in first person and I have to admit that the display is amazing...Colors are cartoonish but so appealing I can't ignore it...
Unfortunately I'm not able to find a store with an NST to try here in Italy...
I was playing today with the note pro from Samsung and I must say that it is for note taking way better then the nVidia Shield Tablet I own myself although I hate the touch wiz layer. Nevertheless I use one note now on my NST for note taking.
Sent from my SHIELD Tablet using XDA Free mobile app
Congrats
Moeali8 said:
First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the year.
I own a LG G Pad 8.3 and a Nvidia shield tablet (NST). The NST is recently purchased so I cannot say its perfect yet when it comes to writing. In my opinion the option of having palm rejection in the NST is delightful which makes writing comfortable. I am currently using Smart note as well but I also use WPS Office (kingsoft Office)--(with the stylus beta app) for handwriting and converting into text if I need something compatible with Microsoft word. The stylus is slippery on the NST I had better control with the LG since I had a screen protector and was using the joint sylus pro which I think is amazing for writing. ( I am actually thinking of adding a screen protector just to use the joint stylus pro with the NST because rumor has it it scratches the screen). The hand recognition in the NST is really good and I think good apps from the play store will give you the experience you are looking for.
I hope this helps, if you have questions I am happy to assist.
sorry if the writing is messy but I got to go for now.
Good luck
FYI I am also in UNI and I do a lot of writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
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First congrats on the Tab S 8.4 and you are right amazing screen, really vivid and nice colors I've always liked Samsung's screens; unfortunately it stops at their screens . But why didnt you take a note if you wanted the S-pen and S-notes. Any way I hope it works out for you. Some great apps are Smart notes which has good hand recognition and lecture notes where I thing would help you with your graphing.
Regrading the LG G Pad 8.3 I'm still using it for standard media consumption like reading and browsing the net while my NST is mainly for games and the occasional web surf if its in my hands. And I'm still using the LG for writing my notes via Kingsoft office and stylus beta has my input method (best hand to text app i've used)
Anyways good luck.