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Galaxy Tab™ Conductive Stylus

I purchased a Galaxy Tab™ Conductive Stylus from the Samsung website, even though their site said it wouldn't work with the GT 8.9 for some reason. As far as I can tell, there isn't much difference in this stylus and all other conductive styluses (styli?). It behaves just like a finger, allowing you to select with the tip of the stylus. The tip is rounded and fat which makes it difficult for fine writing in notepad type apps. I have practiced for a few days and have become fairly proficient at using the stylus to underline in textbooks and word documents. It's also good for signing documents with the right app.
Overall I'm happy with the purchase. The stylus has a good weight and feels like a quality product. I'd definitely buy the stylus again, despite being a few dollars more than the other top quality styluses made by other companies.

I heard that drawing or writing on the tab is pretty abysmal due on the fact that the screen has such a low sensitivity. (like the 10.1)
How is your experience with this? Can you write or draw reallysmall and precise?
Sent from my GT-P7300

pseudoheld said:
I heard that drawing or writing on the tab is pretty abysmal due on the fact that the screen has such a low sensitivity. (like the 10.1)
How is your experience with this? Can you write or draw reallysmall and precise?
Sent from my GT-P7300
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I wouldn't say it's abysmal. I knew I wasn't getting a WACOM digitizer like I have on my tablet PC, or a stylus as good as the Lenovo android tablet but it does a decent job for what I wanted it for, which is marking up pdf files and maybe signing documents in the future. I added a capture of my handwriting taken at writing normal speed with no special care taken to be neat. You must subtract for my poor handwriting and the fact that the app I used doesn't have very good ignorance of a hand laying down, so my hand wasn't balanced on a flat surface as is the case when normally writing.

thanks for the answer!
will be getting a stylus anyhow so i guess i will see how its like

i just bought a stylus and i must say the screen sensitivity issue is pretty bad.
i tried the stylus with my NexusOne and it produced far better results.
the samsung screen seems slow and unresponsive to handwriting

Any chance it's your ICS ROM? I'm on Overcome ROM and it works pretty well. My wife even decided she liked the stylus with her 10.1 on Task's ROM and I ordered another from amazon.

tried it with both roms.
it just seems laggy and slow. it doesn't get small circles like "e" or "l"
but i messed around in the build.prop and it got a little better. still not what i wanted it to be though...

I agree, it's a bummer because I believe the size is perfect for a small sketchpad :/
If you want to take written notes thought download the ASUS Supernote app, you can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204931

i would advise everyone to use freenote.
so far its the most complete note taking app i found!

Thanks for the feedback.
I´m in love with this smaller size, but since I discovered how much better the notetaking thingy seems to be with the 10.1" and TouchScreenTune, and given that the dev didn´t offer many hopes at all for the 8.9", I´m torn again between these 2 devices.
Could you please clarify if the "sensitivity issue" is bad enough to affect the proper selection/highlighting of text?
Cheers

andario said:
Could you please clarify if the "sensitivity issue" is bad enough to affect the proper selection/highlighting of text?
Cheers
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nah selecting highlighting is no problem what soever. it is very precise its just when you loop you "L" or "O" that is sometimes doesn't detect it. but for light usage its fine. annotating or highlighting pdf works a treat.

pseudoheld said:
nah selecting highlighting is no problem what soever. it is very precise its just when you loop you "L" or "O" that is sometimes doesn't detect it. but for light usage its fine. annotating or highlighting pdf works a treat.
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Thanks mate, that was very helpful.

I think the sensitivity is great. I use SuperNote on my 8.9 all the time for taking notes. No issues whatsoever and better than many other tablets I tried. Writing with a conductive stylus is smooth (not broken) and easy. Of course the resolution isn't down to what you could do with pen and paper, but that's a fundamental limitation that most all tablets share except for those that are designed with some sort of active alternative. The touchscreens have to be calibrated to pick up our fat fingers so they are relatively coarse. It's really a compromise so you don't have to have a stylus to navigate the interface like the older generation of PDAs used. I think the 8.9 is great with something like SuperNote that can take your writing and shrink it down to a decent size and align it on a line. You should really check this app out if your interested in taking notes because it is really really cool. It's only distributed on asus tablets, but the apk is floating around.

[Q] Is Asus Transformer TF700T right for me

Hi guys,
I have been looking around for a decent tablet that i can use for school and home. I know netbooks, ultrabooks and laptops are good for school but im looking for something smaller and more portable since im always on the go and i hate carrying a heavy laptop.
I mainly need something that can:
1. take notes (.doc, pdf files, presentations) (will definitely get the dock with the transformer if i get some decent feedback about the asus)
2. fast browser (need for school sites such as blackboard) (adobe flash support)
3. fast speed, since i'm always on the go i need something i can turn on, do my work and move on to next class.
4. Decent battery (~7-8 hours)
Do you think asus transformer infinity tf700t is right for me? or are there any other tablets (small portable devices) that may help me more.
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also are there any problems that you are experiencing that might be a deal breaker.

Order one...
...from Amazon keep all the original packing.
Test drive for perhaps a week.
Keep if you like.
Return if you dislike.
* Also get some kind of cheap protection for the Infinity like a slip cover.
I like my tablet even though I really have no valid use for it.
Tried the Acer A700 before the Infinity liked it a lot...yet it had some real problems.

The Infinity isn't exactly a tablet that excels in note taking; it's arguably the best Android tab for content consumption around, but not content creation and productivity.. Since note taking appears to be a significant requirement for you, why not consider the new Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet? The Note 10.1 has an active digitizer built into it for writing and drawing on levels far superior to the Infinity and all other tablets without the built in digitizer.
In my opinion, the very best option will probably be (later, when released) a Windows Surface tablet with the active digitizer, full office suite, One Note, Journal, etc. For now, the Note 10.1 is the only game in town for the best note taking experience at its class and price point that still leaves room for a lot of the leisure activities we've come to love on our Android and iOS portables like surfing, video watching, games, etc.
I have both tablets (to eval) and the Infinity has a better display, but can't touch the Note 10.1 for note taking. Capacitive stylus writing seriously sucks compared to the active digitizer offerings. Writing with a capacitive stylus is akin to writing with a thick marker, brush, or crayon. I take lots of notes in meetings and HATE trying to write with a capacitive stylus or trying to type and quickly edit notes on the fly.
The Note 10.1 is plenty fast as well and has some stuff in it to sweeten the deal too like the IR remote with Peel bundle to be an interactive universal remote. The multitasking functions weren't all that useful to me on it as things stand currently since it limits you to apps that Samsung has chosen.
All this said and I still decided that I was keeping my Infinity because my primary requirement for my tablet was leisure stuff. I'm getting a Windows Surface Pro or competing Windows 8 slate for my productivity requirements in maybe 6 months. My Note 10.1 has to go back because I can't justify keeping two tablets even though it is really tempting.
In any case, buy it and use the return policy if you don't like it. For what you want to do, it sounds like a perfect fit.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

technewbie said:
Hi guys,
I have been looking around for a decent tablet that i can use for school and home. I know netbooks, ultrabooks and laptops are good for school but im looking for something smaller and more portable since im always on the go and i hate carrying a heavy laptop.
I mainly need something that can:
1. take notes (.doc, pdf files, presentations) (will definitely get the dock with the transformer if i get some decent feedback about the asus)
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Works for me -- although it has been a fair while since I was a student -- although I must be honest and mention too that it heavily depends on the application you use for opening these kinds of files. I work in a hospital, have a lot of PDFs to read (articles, clinical reviews, blablabla) and that works really well. Word-format documents are good, but Excel-format documents I can only open and inspect -- the mostly complex formulas we use are not supported by any Android application I know of (SUGGESTIONS WELCOME!), so when I change a value, it only changes the value in that cell and not the end result of a formula referencing it somewhere else. Which is crap.
2. fast browser (need for school sites such as blackboard) (adobe flash support)
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As in the above, the browser provides Flash support, not the device, therefore this shouldn't be a factor in deciding which Android device to get (although the iDevices do not provide Flash support at all, so you do not have any real alternative, now, do you? )
3. fast speed, since i'm always on the go i need something i can turn on, do my work and move on to next class.
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The TF700 is instant on, instant off, provided, of course, you do not shut it off yourself.
4. Decent battery (~7-8 hours)
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I get 5 to 6 hours of screen-on hardy work time. When I do not touch the device at all, it goes on for about two days. So somewhere in between, depending on usage scenario. You should make it through a day of college or laboratory work. I travel to work in 2-2.5 hours, run a shift, then get back with the same commute time. I've never run dry on the go, but again this depends on your usage.
Do you think asus transformer infinity tf700t is right for me? or are there any other tablets (small portable devices) that may help me more.
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also are there any problems that you are experiencing that might be a deal breaker.
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Only you can decide if this will work for you. The Note 10.1 would be a contestant on paper specifications, but the S Pen has mixed user reviews -- some rave, some hardly ever use it. As I said, Apple products do not make your list due to lack of Flash support. The Iconia A700 is beat as well, but as already said, it has some REAL issues (i.e., probably-hardware-related issues).
I loved the TF700 when I got it (two weeks before retail), even with all its quirks and shortcomings. It has been patched up nicely with .26 and I suspect we will get some more love very soon in the sense of a JB update. That should eliminate some minor issues we sometimes still encounter. I have no hesitation to recommend the TF700 to anyone really in need of that HD screen, the charging keyboard dock and the removable storage options (those are the three main selling points in my personal view).
Wish you the best of luck, and do drop by when you decided to get the TF700, or if you didn't, and in both cases please let us know why -- you help out others in the same position as you are now. Thank you!

ashuras said:
The Infinity isn't exactly a tablet that excels in note taking; it's arguably the best Android tab for content consumption around, but not content creation and productivity.. Since note taking appears to be a significant requirement for you, why not consider the new Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet? The Note 10.1 has an active digitizer built into it for writing and drawing on levels far superior to the Infinity and all other tablets without the built in digitizer.
In my opinion, the very best option will probably be (later, when released) a Windows Surface tablet with the active digitizer, full office suite, One Note, Journal, etc. For now, the Note 10.1 is the only game in town for the best note taking experience at its class and price point that still leaves room for a lot of the leisure activities we've come to love on our Android and iOS portables like surfing, video watching, games, etc.
I have both tablets (to eval) and the Infinity has a better display, but can't touch the Note 10.1 for note taking. Capacitive stylus writing seriously sucks compared to the active digitizer offerings. Writing with a capacitive stylus is akin to writing with a thick marker, brush, or crayon. I take lots of notes in meetings and HATE trying to write with a capacitive stylus or trying to type and quickly edit notes on the fly.
The Note 10.1 is plenty fast as well and has some stuff in it to sweeten the deal too like the IR remote with Peel bundle to be an interactive universal remote. The multitasking functions weren't all that useful to me on it as things stand currently since it limits you to apps that Samsung has chosen.
All this said and I still decided that I was keeping my Infinity because my primary requirement for my tablet was leisure stuff. I'm getting a Windows Surface Pro or competing Windows 8 slate for my productivity requirements in maybe 6 months. My Note 10.1 has to go back because I can't justify keeping two tablets even though it is really tempting.
In any case, buy it and use the return policy if you don't like it. For what you want to do, it sounds like a perfect fit.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
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thanks for the great tip..
i have looked at the windows surface pro (which comes out later in oct 26) and the samsung galaxy note 10.1 (the one that just came out)
I do very much like the samsung galaxy note 10.1 with the multi-tasking feature, stylus and note-taking but the lack of a proper dock concerns me a bit (i know i can get a bluetooth keyboard but its not the same as the transformer tf700)
as for the windows surface, i can wait for it to come out but i want to try something new such as android and see how i like that.
But following your tips i think what i will do is buy the asus transformer and try it for few days and see if it suits my line of work, if not i will try to the samsung galaxy note 10.1, and if i dislike both ill but the windows surface later on.
thank you
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MartyHulskemper said:
Works for me -- although it has been a fair while since I was a student -- although I must be honest and mention too that it heavily depends on the application you use for opening these kinds of files. I work in a hospital, have a lot of PDFs to read (articles, clinical reviews, blablabla) and that works really well. Word-format documents are good, but Excel-format documents I can only open and inspect -- the mostly complex formulas we use are not supported by any Android application I know of (SUGGESTIONS WELCOME!), so when I change a value, it only changes the value in that cell and not the end result of a formula referencing it somewhere else. Which is crap.
As in the above, the browser provides Flash support, not the device, therefore this shouldn't be a factor in deciding which Android device to get (although the iDevices do not provide Flash support at all, so you do not have any real alternative, now, do you? )
The TF700 is instant on, instant off, provided, of course, you do not shut it off yourself.
I get 5 to 6 hours of screen-on hardy work time. When I do not touch the device at all, it goes on for about two days. So somewhere in between, depending on usage scenario. You should make it through a day of college or laboratory work. I travel to work in 2-2.5 hours, run a shift, then get back with the same commute time. I've never run dry on the go, but again this depends on your usage.
Only you can decide if this will work for you. The Note 10.1 would be a contestant on paper specifications, but the S Pen has mixed user reviews -- some rave, some hardly ever use it. As I said, Apple products do not make your list due to lack of Flash support. The Iconia A700 is beat as well, but as already said, it has some REAL issues (i.e., probably-hardware-related issues).
I loved the TF700 when I got it (two weeks before retail), even with all its quirks and shortcomings. It has been patched up nicely with .26 and I suspect we will get some more love very soon in the sense of a JB update. That should eliminate some minor issues we sometimes still encounter. I have no hesitation to recommend the TF700 to anyone really in need of that HD screen, the charging keyboard dock and the removable storage options (those are the three main selling points in my personal view).
Wish you the best of luck, and do drop by when you decided to get the TF700, or if you didn't, and in both cases please let us know why -- you help out others in the same position as you are now. Thank you!
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thank you for your great tips too [im new to xda but i love the community already, everyone's very helpful and willing to answer questions)
I will try out both samsung galaxy note 10.1 and asus transformer tf700t and see which one best suits me and probably post a quick post for my pros and cons as a student of both devices, which may help others in my position like you said

MartyHulskemper said:
...but Excel-format documents I can only open and inspect -- the mostly complex formulas we use are not supported by any Android application I know of (SUGGESTIONS WELCOME!), so when I change a value, it only changes the value in that cell and not the end result of a formula referencing it somewhere else. Which is crap.
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Suggestion for your spreadsheets, try Softmaker. Their android office suite is in final beta now and will likely be a paid app when released. I have been a fan (and regular user) of their office suite since my Jornada 720. I use it on my Windows, Linux, usb stick and my tf700.
btw, I love the tf700. If you're used to taking notes on a laptop, the 700 will fit right in for you.

[Q] How good is the S-pen for taking notes?

Hi all,
I am looking into buying a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition when it does finally show up (I hope it is real soon). I have been looking into the old Note 10.1 to get a sense of how good the S-pen is for taking handwritten notes. I know an acquaintance who uses it to take a lot of notes and he raves about it. I want to get more feedback from people who have used the S-pen as a replacement for traditional pen and paper. Is it as good (or at least sufficiently close) to writing on a piece of paper? Is it quick or is there some lag? Can I rest my palm on the screen and still write in a comfortable posture or do I need to hold my hand awkwardly?
If it is as good as writing on a piece of paper then I am really excited. I can finally replace my growing pile of paper notes, which I can lose sometimes, to a digital copy and make life easier.

The pen is great. End stop.
However... finding the right note taking app for you is a different story. I'm not too thrilled with Snotes, and maybe the newer edition may change that. You have many other options, each with their relative (to the user) strengths and weaknesses.
OneNote
Papyrus
Lecture Notes
Write
Kno
Various office suites
Plus other drawing and note apps I've either forgotten about or haven't encountered.
If/when you get your tablet, take some time to try them all out. See which one offers you the best yield, be it drawing and writing, including materials from other sources, collating and organizing, searching, bookmarking, reuse and export, paper size/design/layout, use across other devices or platforms, backup and sync, online/offline. The list grows and grows.
It all sounds great on paper, until you try to use it practically every day.
My love is OneNote. But not the web or tablet versions; they are VERY VERY lacking. On my computer, however, you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
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How is the s-pen in terms of taking notes? That's my main question. Does it mimic the natural feel of writing on paper? I will definitely look into the alternative apps but my main concern is the viability of replacing a physical pen and notebook with this. Is it snappy and precise when you write with the pen or is it slow and cumbersome (like what a capacitive stylus is like on an ordinary capacitive touch screen).
Will I be able to comfortably take notes in real time, in a fast paced class for example? As long as that is doable, I am interested in buying it. But otherwise, I'd be disappointed.

litetaker said:
How is the s-pen in terms of taking notes? That's my main question. Does it mimic the natural feel of writing on paper? I will definitely look into the alternative apps but my main concern is the viability of replacing a physical pen and notebook with this. Is it snappy and precise when you write with the pen or is it slow and cumbersome (like what a capacitive stylus is like on an ordinary capacitive touch screen).
Will I be able to comfortably take notes in real time, in a fast paced class for example? As long as that is doable, I am interested in buying it. But otherwise, I'd be disappointed.
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It is the best, you can even record audio while writing and then save them both into on file.
Go here and watch some of the videos of it being used http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0krCDFLjdA&list=PL8095B2677327E09C
Multi window is great also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJhKAC2PJEE&list=PL8095B2677327E09C
MyScript Notes Mobile is a nice app that lets you take very good notes also https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visionobjects.notesmobile
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Some of that again depends on the app. Some handle maneuvering around the virtual paper better than others. Most have palm rejection settings. I've not noticed any lag between drawing and visualization, so I'd say the similarity to real ink and paper is pretty close. Depending on if and how the app uses the pressure sensitivity, too, could impact your perception of closeness.
Also the pen itself is. Cumbersome? For longer term use. If you check through the accessories threads, you'll find some good reference on pens that feel more natural in the hand, rather than as a skinny plastic twig, for ease of longer sessions. Being the digitizer is Wacom, the winners appear to be in the Bamboo family, from what I recall. I couldn't imagine a full day of note taking using the standard pen; hand fatigue would set in quickly (Caucasian male, average sized hands, for reference).
I don't know where you are, but most big box stores have them out for a hands-on experience.
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Thanks. Yes, I have been looking at several videos online to get a sense of how good it is. I think it is pretty good for taking handwritten notes. I'll very likely buy the new note 10.1... Just can't wait for them to release it. They should've released it by now actually.

It takes some getting used to. But it is simply a transition that is worth the initial effort. Take some time with it on your own before making the "public" transition. Nothing is more discouraging than fumbling with tech under pressure. But after a couple of days doing all your non public writing on the tablet you'll be ready to go public. At that point, put the paper pad in the drawer and go cold turkey into the digital realm.
Above all else get signed up with drop box or Google drive, get an app called file sync and back up your notes. There are too many threads around of "lost all my notes how do I get them back?"
Good luck! The original Note is a great device. I will envy those with the newer one. Too soon for me to upgrade though.
Sent from the tiny keyboard on my S4

starbuckk said:
It takes some getting used to. But it is simply a transition that is worth the initial effort. Take some time with it on your own before making the "public" transition. Nothing is more discouraging than fumbling with tech under pressure. But after a couple of days doing all your non public writing on the tablet you'll be ready to go public. At that point, put the paper pad in the drawer and go cold turkey into the digital realm.
Above all else get signed up with drop box or Google drive, get an app called file sync and back up your notes. There are too many threads around of "lost all my notes how do I get them back?"
Good luck! The original Note is a great device. I will envy those with the newer one. Too soon for me to upgrade though.
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Thanks for the reply. I have a Dropbox account with a ton of space so I am good with that. I am torn between buying the 8 inch Galaxy Note 8 or to wait and get the more expensive Galaxy Note 10.1 2014.
Now, my main reason to consider the 8 inch is because it is far more affordable, it is readily available right now, and there is some real world usage info to understand if it has any bugs, issues etc.
My main concerns are will the 8 inch be TOO small for taking notes, if it is powerful enough to last me for a long time and finally if the display is more capable at handwriting. The pluses for the new 10.1 is it is bigger, faster, probably has even better Wacom digitizer. But it is very expensive and being brand new we dunno if it has bugs and stuff..
So, anyway, long story short. What should I go for: Galaxy Note 8 or the new Galaxy Note 10.1? Will an 8incher be enough for taking notes? I just intend to take notes and read PDFs... Not into playing games or drawing etc.

Go for the 10.1 and try to get hold of the Bluetooth S-Pen (HM5100). A perfect combination. The built in S-Pen is good, but the BT one just feels like a real pen which helps with the writing.

Wait until the new 10.1 comes out and go check it out. It's only a couple weeks away now. Get one of each in your hands and see how it works out. I started out with a Nook Color and found that a "tablet" that size was just too small for me. But I have a co-worker that has a Note 8 and prefers that smaller size.
Looks like the price difference will be just about $200. So...put the price aside for a moment unless you ABSOLUTELY have no option to come up with that additional amount. Try them both out. See which one would work best for you. If you are gonna be using it for hours every day, then maybe you can find somewhere else to cut the $200 difference to get what will work best for you.
Frankly, if you already think it's too small, it probably is, and you'll be discouraged from using it.Which means the investment won't be as valuable.
Also keep in mind that if you are talking about reading business type PDF's, they were probably designed to be viewed on big computer screens and created in 8 1/2 by 11 paper format. So now you're gonna squeeze them down to the size of a 5x8 notebook. Maybe your eyesight can handle that. Mine can't. I wear reading glasses even on the 10.1. So be sure to read a couple full size PDF pages when you go check them out. That will probably impact your decision.

[Q] Galaxy note pro 12 handwriting

Hey folks. i did a whole lot of research on buying this.
Considering that it is quite expensive, and the facts below:
1) i dont have a laptop beyond work laptop
2) i do have a desktop pc
I was thinking whether it is worthwhile getting this and it all comes down to how good its handwriting function is as it is the only thing making it worthwhile for me.
I read reviews etc. I tried one at a shop (though they dont keep the s pen on the device to avoid help, therefore my play time was rather limited, and it was on 10.1 inch version).
I wanted to ask those that use this for notes e.g. lecture notes, or business meetings; how fast can you actually write on this thing?
Our natural handwriting is for sure faster, however i wanted to have a realistic picture on the device's ability to be used for such purposes. I assume that its a matter of getting used to it? Is there a way to adjust/reduce latency?
Other than that, from current long stand owners, any advice regarding buying or not?

Personally I had purchased the tablet not only to serve as my primary media consumption device but also as a note taking device for my business meetings. Having tried a gamut of note taking applications and settling on one (LectureNotes) I'd say that you need not worry about the lack of performance with regard to natural handwriting note taking. You will surely find an application that will suit your needs (it is quite possible that the S-Note app that is built in will work perfectly for you as well).
I recall seeing that you asked about the potential lag during pen input when note taking. For note taking applications where you're writing directly onto a virtual piece of paper the input is practically instantaneous. If there's any lag it is not so much that it would be distracting.
The tablet also allows text input into text fields using handwriting as an alternative to keyboard use. This function works fairly well but here because it is doing OCR of your handwriting input will lag a little and you'll undoubtedly have errors (the frequency of which is a function of your handwriting legibility).

thanks for the quick reply. I think you have helped me!
Basically i do not care so much about the OCR speed, as much as i care about the effectiveness of this device as a replacement of pen and paper. This is what i will be trying to do. Getting the 12.2 will essentially be almost equivalent as an A4 paper. If i am happy about the handwriting capture speed and effectiveness it will mean that i will be digitizing my handwritten notes, which will enable better organisation etc. Tonite may be the night i press BUY ..
Thanks for your help. If you have more feedback, i will gladly take it!

Yes you'll definitely like it for this. Most note taking apps allow export to PDF as well so you can save your notes for use elsewhere. This comes in very handy!

I have used my note to replace paper notes. I'm a college student and take lots of notes, this device allows me to take my notes as fast as I do on paper. With the added benefit of changing colors, highlighting, etc.
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In terms of handwriting on a notetaking app, workst excellent. It does take some getting used to because you're not encourntering the same resistance as you do on a physical piece of paper. There's virtually no lag. (A few milliseconds, but that's the limitations of technology. You probably won't notice it if you're not used to noticing it.)
The OCR isn't infallable. I've had a friend who's a doctor try to use the direct handwriting input in my calendar, the result was a language I'm fairly sure nobody on this planet has ever heard of. (I'm still not sure what it is I'm supposed to do tomorrow... :laugh: )
I should mention I'm used to working with Wacom pens as I'm a long-time Intuos user (In Photoshop) and I own a Note 3.
I've also bought a Wacom Bamboo Feel for Note, because to me the Spen feels too small for lengthy use. (It's fine on my Note 3, but not on 12.2"). The plastic one is nice and light, but the carbon one feels really awesome. Too bad it's another 50 quid over the plastic one...

Great question and answers. I am also looking at this tablet primarily as a note taking tool for Graduate school but I'm torn between getting the 10in or 12in. Does anyone here have experience with both of these sizes when it comes to taking lecture notes?
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LonelyTV said:
Great question and answers. I am also looking at this tablet primarily as a note taking tool for Graduate school but I'm torn between getting the 10in or 12in. Does anyone here have experience with both of these sizes when it comes to taking lecture notes?
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Yes. Personally I prefer the 12.2" because it's almost the exact size of an A4 paper. So no need to adapt to a smaller size. To me, on my 10.1" tablet, I kept running out of screen in the middle of my writing. Not to mention it was a little uncomfortable because your hand floats in mid air when writing anywhere but the middle of the screen. The 12.2" has almost 50% more screen.

[Q] S pen surface pro 3 comaprision

So I am in a bit of dilemma at the moment I am physicist and I would like to stop using lab books and move to something more electronic to store my notes / plots etc. My main uses are writing notes, making tables, formulas and annotating papers/powerpoints.
There are two tablets which I was considering one as you might have guessed is the galaxy note 12.2 and the surface pro 3. Originally I was considering the surface pro 3 because of its supposed to be the most accurate for the stylus integration. However once I tried the galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition (admittedly I haven't tired 12.2 but I guessed the s-pen integration was the same in the 10.1) I found it almost to be as accurate as the surface pro 3 and I actually found writing on the screen a little nicer, I preferred the resistance (However that might have been due to the rather damaged s pen).
So my question is has anyone done a comparison? or have both? to help me decide. At the minute the Note pro 12.2 is around £389 at the minute and the surface is £549 (at its cheapest) so the note pro is considerably cheaper.
Also just a few other questions, how is the s pen for taking notes? Using this as a lab book replacement I need a good syncing tool, how well does evernote deal with hand writing recognition?. This is the other reason I was drawn to surface was because of OneNote.
Also I just wanted to point out I am not looking for a laptop replacement (although it would be handy when I don't have my macbook with me) ideally what should come first is how good the particular tablet is making notes and keeping my notes organised.
Thanks for all you help in advance.
James

To the moderators, my apologies I didn't see the sticky at the top of the forum, could you please move this to the Q&A section.
My apologies

jasimpson89 said:
To the moderators, my apologies I didn't see the sticky at the top of the forum, could you please move this to the Q&A section.
My apologies
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My views on this:
I've had the notes 1, 2, 3 and am currently waiting for the note 4
My son has the note 8
I've also has the Surface Pro 1, 2 and currently have the 3 (and LOVE IT)
I also have a Note pro 12.2
So i consider myself a bit of an experienced expert of stylus driven machines
The first and biggest thing you'll notice about the SP3 stylus is that it FEELS a lot nicer in the hand. Its a normal pen size and weight. This is a pretty big thing... and coupled with the OneNote built in functionality on a windows platform... this thing is sex on your lap.
(OneNote is a *massively* underrated app. I thoroughly recommend you get to know it... to me it rivals Excel in capability)
The Note range of stylus are all compatible with each other AND the Surface Pro 1 and 2. but NOT the Surface Pro 3. the SP3 uses very different technology (not wacom) and Bluetooth linked.
I suspect that if you can handle the lack of 3G connectivity, the SP3 will better suit your needs.
(btw just a heads up, the i7 model of SP3 has some thermal cut out issues, you might want to use the i5 model until MS can fix their thermal issues.)

jasimpson89 said:
So I am in a bit of dilemma at the moment I am physicist and I would like to stop using lab books and move to something more electronic to store my notes / plots etc. My main uses are writing notes, making tables, formulas and annotating papers/powerpoints.
There are two tablets which I was considering one as you might have guessed is the galaxy note 12.2 and the surface pro 3. Originally I was considering the surface pro 3 because of its supposed to be the most accurate for the stylus integration. However once I tried the galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition (admittedly I haven't tired 12.2 but I guessed the s-pen integration was the same in the 10.1) I found it almost to be as accurate as the surface pro 3 and I actually found writing on the screen a little nicer, I preferred the resistance (However that might have been due to the rather damaged s pen).
So my question is has anyone done a comparison? or have both? to help me decide. At the minute the Note pro 12.2 is around £389 at the minute and the surface is £549 (at its cheapest) so the note pro is considerably cheaper.
Also just a few other questions, how is the s pen for taking notes? Using this as a lab book replacement I need a good syncing tool, how well does evernote deal with hand writing recognition?. This is the other reason I was drawn to surface was because of OneNote.
Also I just wanted to point out I am not looking for a laptop replacement (although it would be handy when I don't have my macbook with me) ideally what should come first is how good the particular tablet is making notes and keeping my notes organised.
Thanks for all you help in advance.
James
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Well, since you don't mention needing any real tablet functionality or android specific apps, and you do mention functionality (tables, hw recognition, etc) I would say the SP3 is a clear winner. The horsepower of the SP3 and the fluidity of OneNote with the full desktop version and all of it's capability and the ability to hop into Excel/Word if needed or run as a full laptop in a pinch with the the type cover and built-in stand puts the SP3 head and shoulders above the Note Pro 12.2
If you needed lighter weight note taking along with Android app functionality, and or WWAN capability then obviously the Note Pro would be better.

Admittingly, I also fully agree with everything that has been mentioned here. Not to branch off topic, but I remember in the early years when tablet manufacturers were first attempting to connect with a stylus, there was a lot of heat on what technology would be the better route and what source of code would be the optimal select. Resolve was difficult because everything was desperately needed. People were demanding a tablet that could take notes with unsurpassed accuracy, yet evolve into a laptop with the performance pf a desktop pc while on the go. Now that tablet technology has surpassed multiple revision updates, & mega disasters (that we wont even begin to mention), etc. students are more often found attending class with a tablet, over a pen and paper. Even the lightest high performance laptops rivaled tablets as laptops slowly started their transformation into something new.
Currently retired from some many years of developing multiple platforms and implementing hardware, I have personally achieved quite a wide selection of tablets, laptops, combinations, and hand held portables. Out of the selection my favorite are the Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 and the Surface Pro 3 512Gb with i7. Between these two devices I feel I have experienced the best out of both worlds. Yet truthfully, when it comes to "Taking notes" I tend to normally reach for the Note Pro before the Surface. However, don't get me wrong. When the roles are reversed, and I need true laptop performance with Power Point and Excel, I will reach for the Surface Pro.
As for the stylus. It really depends on what I'm going to need to do. I feel that both devices stylus's "Feel" great. But if were are defining "Feel" as in the actual way in conforms in the hand. The Surface Pro stylus is hands down more realistic of a feeling than that of my Note Pro's light "tooth pick" stylus. However you can achieve that sexy feel in your hand with the Bamboo stylus if you want to spend a little. Then the real question is again, what do I need to do.
The Note Pro is an excellent note taking machine. No question, no debate. It takes extremely accurate note taking and hand writing recognition to a whole new level. I have never experienced anything better to this day.
Now the Surface Pro is also an excellent machine. OneNote IS truly sex on your lap, so to speak, LoL, with this machine. The stylus accuracy is by far the same as the Note Pro, in my opinion. However this device gives me better performance when it comes to Excel and Word docs. Especially when you need to just hop right in as mentioned above.
In close, I could detail every aspect of each device. However, I feel that your conclusion would mainly depend on what you are wanting to do with it, so I don't want to just say that I like one more than the other and try to prove my reasoning. What I would like to provide you with is the reality of what I look for on a daily basis. That would be hands down the Note Pro. No matter if I'm traveling and need the absolute portability with excellent battery life; hands down the Note Pro. Needing to create, edit, develope, or give a presentation with power point; hands down the Note Pro. When I'm in a hurry and need to find a quick applicable application for something, hands down the Note Pro. When having to fly in and want to grab the latest Metar information while in the cockpit, hands down the Note Pro. Thousands of applications with the most part of them truly free in the play store for any event, hands down the Note Pro.
Again both devices are truly amazing machines, yet I still reach for the Note ahead of the Surface. Weight, battery life, functionality, compatibility, amazing resolution, etc, etc, etc; hands down the Note Pro. I wouldn't change it for anything.
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I'm in molecular virology and do biochem and a fair amount of math on mine. I do lots of reading, highlighting, and annotating in my textbooks. I use lecture notes for quick stuff. I tend to have my logitech k810 for typing out longer stuff. I use the handwriting recognition for my math only. My handwriting is horrible and it's a godsend. The larger screen is what sold me. I kept running into the end of the page before I was done with whatver equation I was working on with the note 10.1. This slightly larger model made it so my work fits perfectly.
The screen looks far better to me on the note 12.2 as well. I find the device lighter. It has better battery life to me, especially when touchwiz is gone and the tablet has been tweaked some.
Depending on the work I'm doing, I use different note programs. Instead of worrying about them all syncing in different ways, I just use drop sync to sync their individual folders and all my notes from various apps and tools are done in one click.
I considered the surface, but because of the extra price being so much more and it only running an onboard intel graphics chip I did not see it worth the extra cash. Minus molecular modeling and high level processing/graphics stuff I have successfully replaced my laptop 99% of the time.
You will need an aftermarket pen. The little dinky thing it comes with will just not cut it. Highlighting and math with it gave me a good cramp after a short time. I bought an aftermarket pen. The bamboo stylus feel carbon and have been happy ever since. The main recommendations for pens are the Bamboo Stylus Feel Normal/Carbon and the S-Pen 8pi

Thanks everyone for your input it is greatly appreciated.
At the minute a still don't know which way I am leaning .
Maybe I should of outlined my situations more in my original post, I use a rMBP as my daily driver so I use that for the office related things and programming stuff and I can't really see myself ever replacing it with a windows machine, linux however this could be an option which pulls me towards the surface pro 3 for dual booting as a spare linux environment and also being able to use zim which is a plus.
In terms of notes made on the note can they easily exported? I would like to be able to search them on device essentially, one reason I was asking about evernote.
How does onenote and the apps for the s pen compare?
Can you now directly pen into evernote using the spen? can you also write tasks out which go straight to evernote?
Also do you guys/gals once you have inked then covert to text? or do you do all your typing using a keyboard? I have an odd pleasure from just writing out my work and it also helps me remember what I have done. The whole reason for wanting to go electronic is so I can easily find something again!

jasimpson89 said:
Thanks everyone for your input it is greatly appreciated.
At the minute a still don't know which way I am leaning .
Maybe I should of outlined my situations more in my original post, I use a rMBP as my daily driver so I use that for the office related things and programming stuff and I can't really see myself ever replacing it with a windows machine, linux however this could be an option which pulls me towards the surface pro 3 for dual booting as a spare linux environment and also being able to use zim which is a plus.
In terms of notes made on the note can they easily exported? I would like to be able to search them on device essentially, one reason I was asking about evernote.
How does onenote and the apps for the s pen compare?
Can you now directly pen into evernote using the spen? can you also write tasks out which go straight to evernote?
Also do you guys/gals once you have inked then covert to text? or do you do all your typing using a keyboard? I have an odd pleasure from just writing out my work and it also helps me remember what I have done. The whole reason for wanting to go electronic is so I can easily find something again!
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So, one thing that no one has mentioned in this is that Onenote is also available for the note pro... so, that point is kidna moot imo...
for your questionn on the note apps, there is a good section in the themes and apps already on this.. several of your options are the LectureNotes as mentioned already, Onenote, Papyrus, Evernote, S-Note, and several other. each of them have their own things that make them "better" than others, so it will be on your to see how they fit with you.. a lot prefer Lecturenotes and Papyrus, some like Onenote, some Like Evernote.. test them for yourself and see how you like them.. Lecturenotes and Papyrus seem to give you more functionalility, but lack some of the exporting.. however, you can easily overcome all this by using dropbox/dropsync and just sync them to whereever.
Ihave the SP2 as well and i just bought the note pro 12.2.. have to say.. i love the note pro wayyyyy more than the sp2.. granted it is not the sp3, so i cant speak to its S-pen abilities.. but, the note pro for me does everything that my sp2 can/will do with the exception of the compatability of a smart card reader that i could use for work.. other than that, i can still easily do all MS docs (excel, pp, word, etc)on the note just as easily as on the sp2..
The screen on teh NP12.2 is jsut wayy better as well. and the size is outstanding and still manages to be lighter than the sp2...
For me, Ican use either the handwriting or a kb.. i personally bought the samsung cover keyboard.. i tried it and the zagg one.. the zagg was a tad lighter, but the samsung one jsut feels so much better to me to type on.. i have larger hands and the keys fit better and just feel better.. it is working great.
the benefit of the Note as well is the android and apps.. you can pretty much do anything on this that you will be able to on the SP with the eception of playing some "PC"games , but the SP is severely lackign a video card, so you cant even really do that well on the SP.. with the note, you can enjoy your time and play the games that are far more abundant for this as well..
I am personally going to sell my SP2 now that Ihave this.. there is just no reason to keep it as Ican hook my reader up to my PC and still do my email at home
Also.. don't quote me on this and i would suggest look it up, but i could have sworn a buddy of mine was talking to me about loading Ubuntu onto the Note?? if I am correct, it runs on a linux kernel right, so i could see this as possibly being true, but i am by no means an expert on this and this is just something that popped in my head when i saw you write that.. so, maybe look into that to get your linux fix
anyway.. hope this might help you some more.. if any questions, feel free to ask
edit... so looks like i remembered right.. check out this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2755962 Ubuntu on the note pro 12.2 enjoy
From my Fired-up Note Pro 12.2!

OneNote on android is awesome, but nowhere near the functionality of it on Win8.1
SNote is *nothing* like the capability of OneNote.

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OneNote on android is awesome, but nowhere near the functionality of it on Win8.1
SNote is *nothing* like the capability of OneNote.
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yeah Ihear ya... but from my understaending, the real reason a lot like it is the synching portion between the tab and the pc... and you can overcome this with just about every other note taking app with some form of dropbox and just synch as well
I used onenote on my SP2 and liked it.. but i DL'd lecturenotes and think i like it even more..you have way more options with it and customizeable as wel... worth a check out
From my Fired-up Note Pro 12.2!