Hi all,
I am looking into buying a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition when it does finally show up (I hope it is real soon). I have been looking into the old Note 10.1 to get a sense of how good the S-pen is for taking handwritten notes. I know an acquaintance who uses it to take a lot of notes and he raves about it. I want to get more feedback from people who have used the S-pen as a replacement for traditional pen and paper. Is it as good (or at least sufficiently close) to writing on a piece of paper? Is it quick or is there some lag? Can I rest my palm on the screen and still write in a comfortable posture or do I need to hold my hand awkwardly?
If it is as good as writing on a piece of paper then I am really excited. I can finally replace my growing pile of paper notes, which I can lose sometimes, to a digital copy and make life easier.
The pen is great. End stop.
However... finding the right note taking app for you is a different story. I'm not too thrilled with Snotes, and maybe the newer edition may change that. You have many other options, each with their relative (to the user) strengths and weaknesses.
OneNote
Papyrus
Lecture Notes
Write
Kno
Various office suites
Plus other drawing and note apps I've either forgotten about or haven't encountered.
If/when you get your tablet, take some time to try them all out. See which one offers you the best yield, be it drawing and writing, including materials from other sources, collating and organizing, searching, bookmarking, reuse and export, paper size/design/layout, use across other devices or platforms, backup and sync, online/offline. The list grows and grows.
It all sounds great on paper, until you try to use it practically every day.
My love is OneNote. But not the web or tablet versions; they are VERY VERY lacking. On my computer, however, you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
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How is the s-pen in terms of taking notes? That's my main question. Does it mimic the natural feel of writing on paper? I will definitely look into the alternative apps but my main concern is the viability of replacing a physical pen and notebook with this. Is it snappy and precise when you write with the pen or is it slow and cumbersome (like what a capacitive stylus is like on an ordinary capacitive touch screen).
Will I be able to comfortably take notes in real time, in a fast paced class for example? As long as that is doable, I am interested in buying it. But otherwise, I'd be disappointed.
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How is the s-pen in terms of taking notes? That's my main question. Does it mimic the natural feel of writing on paper? I will definitely look into the alternative apps but my main concern is the viability of replacing a physical pen and notebook with this. Is it snappy and precise when you write with the pen or is it slow and cumbersome (like what a capacitive stylus is like on an ordinary capacitive touch screen).
Will I be able to comfortably take notes in real time, in a fast paced class for example? As long as that is doable, I am interested in buying it. But otherwise, I'd be disappointed.
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It is the best, you can even record audio while writing and then save them both into on file.
Go here and watch some of the videos of it being used http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0krCDFLjdA&list=PL8095B2677327E09C
Multi window is great also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJhKAC2PJEE&list=PL8095B2677327E09C
MyScript Notes Mobile is a nice app that lets you take very good notes also https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visionobjects.notesmobile
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Some of that again depends on the app. Some handle maneuvering around the virtual paper better than others. Most have palm rejection settings. I've not noticed any lag between drawing and visualization, so I'd say the similarity to real ink and paper is pretty close. Depending on if and how the app uses the pressure sensitivity, too, could impact your perception of closeness.
Also the pen itself is. Cumbersome? For longer term use. If you check through the accessories threads, you'll find some good reference on pens that feel more natural in the hand, rather than as a skinny plastic twig, for ease of longer sessions. Being the digitizer is Wacom, the winners appear to be in the Bamboo family, from what I recall. I couldn't imagine a full day of note taking using the standard pen; hand fatigue would set in quickly (Caucasian male, average sized hands, for reference).
I don't know where you are, but most big box stores have them out for a hands-on experience.
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Thanks. Yes, I have been looking at several videos online to get a sense of how good it is. I think it is pretty good for taking handwritten notes. I'll very likely buy the new note 10.1... Just can't wait for them to release it. They should've released it by now actually.
It takes some getting used to. But it is simply a transition that is worth the initial effort. Take some time with it on your own before making the "public" transition. Nothing is more discouraging than fumbling with tech under pressure. But after a couple of days doing all your non public writing on the tablet you'll be ready to go public. At that point, put the paper pad in the drawer and go cold turkey into the digital realm.
Above all else get signed up with drop box or Google drive, get an app called file sync and back up your notes. There are too many threads around of "lost all my notes how do I get them back?"
Good luck! The original Note is a great device. I will envy those with the newer one. Too soon for me to upgrade though.
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It takes some getting used to. But it is simply a transition that is worth the initial effort. Take some time with it on your own before making the "public" transition. Nothing is more discouraging than fumbling with tech under pressure. But after a couple of days doing all your non public writing on the tablet you'll be ready to go public. At that point, put the paper pad in the drawer and go cold turkey into the digital realm.
Above all else get signed up with drop box or Google drive, get an app called file sync and back up your notes. There are too many threads around of "lost all my notes how do I get them back?"
Good luck! The original Note is a great device. I will envy those with the newer one. Too soon for me to upgrade though.
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Thanks for the reply. I have a Dropbox account with a ton of space so I am good with that. I am torn between buying the 8 inch Galaxy Note 8 or to wait and get the more expensive Galaxy Note 10.1 2014.
Now, my main reason to consider the 8 inch is because it is far more affordable, it is readily available right now, and there is some real world usage info to understand if it has any bugs, issues etc.
My main concerns are will the 8 inch be TOO small for taking notes, if it is powerful enough to last me for a long time and finally if the display is more capable at handwriting. The pluses for the new 10.1 is it is bigger, faster, probably has even better Wacom digitizer. But it is very expensive and being brand new we dunno if it has bugs and stuff..
So, anyway, long story short. What should I go for: Galaxy Note 8 or the new Galaxy Note 10.1? Will an 8incher be enough for taking notes? I just intend to take notes and read PDFs... Not into playing games or drawing etc.
Go for the 10.1 and try to get hold of the Bluetooth S-Pen (HM5100). A perfect combination. The built in S-Pen is good, but the BT one just feels like a real pen which helps with the writing.
Wait until the new 10.1 comes out and go check it out. It's only a couple weeks away now. Get one of each in your hands and see how it works out. I started out with a Nook Color and found that a "tablet" that size was just too small for me. But I have a co-worker that has a Note 8 and prefers that smaller size.
Looks like the price difference will be just about $200. So...put the price aside for a moment unless you ABSOLUTELY have no option to come up with that additional amount. Try them both out. See which one would work best for you. If you are gonna be using it for hours every day, then maybe you can find somewhere else to cut the $200 difference to get what will work best for you.
Frankly, if you already think it's too small, it probably is, and you'll be discouraged from using it.Which means the investment won't be as valuable.
Also keep in mind that if you are talking about reading business type PDF's, they were probably designed to be viewed on big computer screens and created in 8 1/2 by 11 paper format. So now you're gonna squeeze them down to the size of a 5x8 notebook. Maybe your eyesight can handle that. Mine can't. I wear reading glasses even on the 10.1. So be sure to read a couple full size PDF pages when you go check them out. That will probably impact your decision.
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So after giving this some thought this last week I decided to stick with the infinity over trading in for the Note 10.1. I just think the Infinity is superior product. I benchmark, stock and not rooted, at about 13,000 and I/O is and acceptable 450.
Obviously the big "breath taking" feature of the note is the S- Pen and in my opinion the biggest reason I might have had tablet envy. The pen is something that I can use on a daily basis for work since I take so many notes. I just can't get over the plastic, slow up dates from Samsung and no FHD screen. Also, the addition of the keyboard doc lets you take the Infinity to whole different level. I have set out to see if I can capture the "pen experience" in the Infinity and this is what I have found so far. I hope the rest of you will share ideas and experiences as well.
Stylus: I have tried several since I had a Asus Prime and found most not to be sufficient for my needs. The cheap ones are surely cheap and wear out quickly. Some even leave a residue behind on the screen. After several tries I have found the Adonit Jot Pro to be the most accurate and best all around for my needs. It works well when swiping the screen ( I only use it for that when I am using the jot pro to write with) and gives clear translation of what I write without skipping. I will probably order some extra discs right away since I can see that being a potential issue and could shut me down using until replacements arrive. One thing I do not like about the jot pro stylus is I wish they would have put one more revolution of threads on the cap. It has fallen off once and having the tip exposed while while carrying around could damage the disc. So be careful to make sure it is not cross threaded and put back in place securely.
Screen Protector: I had the Zagg protector but it is much to sticky to use with the jot stylus. I do not think it works well with any of them personally. I do not have a screen protector on my screen currently but have ordered and should recieve Monday clear Acaseview screen protector that was recommended in another post. I will update when I have installed and used
Software/ Apps: I am mainly using SuperNote to take my notes. It functions really well to take notes on the fly. I have several note books setup for various topics. I have also setup a notebook that has forms in it that use regularly and usually fill out using paper and pen. I scanned an image of each form and inserted them into a page in Supernote. When I go to fill them out I simply use the insert annotation feature and "bingo" I have a non paper version of the form that I can archive and retrieve at any time.
One challenge of Supernote is that it is not too strong on export natively. You can either export to an .SNE file which can be read by nothing but supernote or share via email or other apps. There is no .pdf function built in which would be great if ASUS would update this functionality. My solution to this is to share everything to Evernote where you can pretty much do anything you want to with the information at that point. The possibilities are endless. By using the recent apps list it is very easy to switch between both and if you use overskreen as a browser you get that placebo effect of multi tasking ( ok, maybe not.)
Another useful program to share to is scan to pdf and you can skip Evernote altogether.
On a side note I found it interesting that the day the Samsung was launched the ICS+ browser and google release a beta that allowed you to write your search criteria that was converted to text in the search box.
These are just a few ideas that I have come up with in just a few days. I am happily taking notes on my infinity and my eyes love me for full HD. I am sure there is more out there and more to come. I look forward to learning more from those of you that care to share what you have come up with.
Nice post, and great to see what you've come up with. I am still in doubt about using a screen protector (not so much for the protection, but for the glare reduction), so I'll keep an eye on what you think of your soon-to-come addition. I do not take notes that religiously -- that's not true, to be honest; I take notes all the times, but on paper next to my 700 -- so I'll have to remind me to give Overskreen and SuperNote a whirl.
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An update that the acaseview screen protector works great with the adonit jot pro stylus. Pen moves just as freely as if there was not a screen protector on and recognition of hand writing is great. The screen protector fits the tf700 perfectly and seems to be high quality. Here is the amazon link to the version I purchased.
http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-T...eywords=acaseview+screen+protector+asus+tf700
How do you deal with your palm messing things up? I assume with the Note that wouldn't be a problem since the stylus isn't capacitive.
I'd have to recommend the sensu brush or the truglide stylus.
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I'd have to recommend the sensu brush or the truglide stylus.
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Got the Sensu brush yesterday. Very nice.
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Got the Sensu brush yesterday. Very nice.
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I've only had mine for a couple weeks but it really is the best I've used. The apps are somewhat limited, but that will all change sooner or later. For now, I'm loving the Sensu Brush and Photoshop Touch.
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How do you deal with your palm messing things up? I assume with the Note that wouldn't be a problem since the stylus isn't capacitive.
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Maybe it is my writing style but I seem to not have a problem with my palm "messing things up"
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I'd have to recommend the sensu brush or the truglide stylus.
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I will have to give the sensu a try. I looked at the truglide but passed because it was so much shorter than a regular pen. I see now that they do offer a full size stylus so it may work great as well.
Agree for pen part, but the true strength to my surprise on galaxy note is speed and stability. I have encountered only a single crush after 30 to 40 hours of use. As stable as iOS perhaps better. But I do miss hd resolution.
Ok, I've to admit that I'm more than a little smitten than the Note 10.1. Frankly speaking, I do not really need a tablet for work or leisure, although it's useful to check my emails and surf the net on weekends when I want to lounge in bed for a little longer.
But I wonder if using a large tablet will help or encourage me to learn drawing. I got the Note phone partially for that reason (while keeping in mind that if the S-Pen turned out to be lousy, I would still want the phone), but I don't enjoy using the S-Pen nor the few apps that support it. The placement of the line's not accurate no matter what I do to try to configure it, and I do think the small area for drawing may also be a hindrance. But I do like the phone very much for all other purposes!
So what do the artsy people think? Will the Note 10.1 be a good tool for learning to draw, or am I better off with pen and paper? I'm not aiming to produce serious, photo realistic drawings at all, just reasonably nice looking and identifiable objects, animals, people, etc... If you think the Note will be a good tool for me, how do you suggest I utilise it? Just as a digital drawing board used together with a conventional drawing instruction book, or some other method?
Thanks in advance.
Get a pencil and a cheap sketchbook, maybe made with newspaper (its the cheapest you can find,same kind of paper they use for, well newspapers)
It shouldnt run you more than $5
If you want colors I suggest crayons, cheap and easy to try things without feeling you're wasting fortune.
Then when you're confident grab something with technology. I think technology is not a replacement for art tools, it's just another art tool and a such I suggest you start with the basic tools of pencil, eraser and paper.
Thanks, I think you're right about going cheap and easy. I have lots of unfilled notebook and drawing books simply because the paper feels too precious!
I'll go that route first to improve my drawing skills, though I may still get the Note 10.1.
So far I've liked drawing on my Note 10.1 more than I have on my Wacom Intuos digitizer that cost me about the same amount of money :laugh:
Hey folks. i did a whole lot of research on buying this.
Considering that it is quite expensive, and the facts below:
1) i dont have a laptop beyond work laptop
2) i do have a desktop pc
I was thinking whether it is worthwhile getting this and it all comes down to how good its handwriting function is as it is the only thing making it worthwhile for me.
I read reviews etc. I tried one at a shop (though they dont keep the s pen on the device to avoid help, therefore my play time was rather limited, and it was on 10.1 inch version).
I wanted to ask those that use this for notes e.g. lecture notes, or business meetings; how fast can you actually write on this thing?
Our natural handwriting is for sure faster, however i wanted to have a realistic picture on the device's ability to be used for such purposes. I assume that its a matter of getting used to it? Is there a way to adjust/reduce latency?
Other than that, from current long stand owners, any advice regarding buying or not?
Personally I had purchased the tablet not only to serve as my primary media consumption device but also as a note taking device for my business meetings. Having tried a gamut of note taking applications and settling on one (LectureNotes) I'd say that you need not worry about the lack of performance with regard to natural handwriting note taking. You will surely find an application that will suit your needs (it is quite possible that the S-Note app that is built in will work perfectly for you as well).
I recall seeing that you asked about the potential lag during pen input when note taking. For note taking applications where you're writing directly onto a virtual piece of paper the input is practically instantaneous. If there's any lag it is not so much that it would be distracting.
The tablet also allows text input into text fields using handwriting as an alternative to keyboard use. This function works fairly well but here because it is doing OCR of your handwriting input will lag a little and you'll undoubtedly have errors (the frequency of which is a function of your handwriting legibility).
thanks for the quick reply. I think you have helped me!
Basically i do not care so much about the OCR speed, as much as i care about the effectiveness of this device as a replacement of pen and paper. This is what i will be trying to do. Getting the 12.2 will essentially be almost equivalent as an A4 paper. If i am happy about the handwriting capture speed and effectiveness it will mean that i will be digitizing my handwritten notes, which will enable better organisation etc. Tonite may be the night i press BUY ..
Thanks for your help. If you have more feedback, i will gladly take it!
Yes you'll definitely like it for this. Most note taking apps allow export to PDF as well so you can save your notes for use elsewhere. This comes in very handy!
I have used my note to replace paper notes. I'm a college student and take lots of notes, this device allows me to take my notes as fast as I do on paper. With the added benefit of changing colors, highlighting, etc.
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In terms of handwriting on a notetaking app, workst excellent. It does take some getting used to because you're not encourntering the same resistance as you do on a physical piece of paper. There's virtually no lag. (A few milliseconds, but that's the limitations of technology. You probably won't notice it if you're not used to noticing it.)
The OCR isn't infallable. I've had a friend who's a doctor try to use the direct handwriting input in my calendar, the result was a language I'm fairly sure nobody on this planet has ever heard of. (I'm still not sure what it is I'm supposed to do tomorrow... :laugh: )
I should mention I'm used to working with Wacom pens as I'm a long-time Intuos user (In Photoshop) and I own a Note 3.
I've also bought a Wacom Bamboo Feel for Note, because to me the Spen feels too small for lengthy use. (It's fine on my Note 3, but not on 12.2"). The plastic one is nice and light, but the carbon one feels really awesome. Too bad it's another 50 quid over the plastic one...
Great question and answers. I am also looking at this tablet primarily as a note taking tool for Graduate school but I'm torn between getting the 10in or 12in. Does anyone here have experience with both of these sizes when it comes to taking lecture notes?
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Great question and answers. I am also looking at this tablet primarily as a note taking tool for Graduate school but I'm torn between getting the 10in or 12in. Does anyone here have experience with both of these sizes when it comes to taking lecture notes?
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Yes. Personally I prefer the 12.2" because it's almost the exact size of an A4 paper. So no need to adapt to a smaller size. To me, on my 10.1" tablet, I kept running out of screen in the middle of my writing. Not to mention it was a little uncomfortable because your hand floats in mid air when writing anywhere but the middle of the screen. The 12.2" has almost 50% more screen.
So I am in a bit of dilemma at the moment I am physicist and I would like to stop using lab books and move to something more electronic to store my notes / plots etc. My main uses are writing notes, making tables, formulas and annotating papers/powerpoints.
There are two tablets which I was considering one as you might have guessed is the galaxy note 12.2 and the surface pro 3. Originally I was considering the surface pro 3 because of its supposed to be the most accurate for the stylus integration. However once I tried the galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition (admittedly I haven't tired 12.2 but I guessed the s-pen integration was the same in the 10.1) I found it almost to be as accurate as the surface pro 3 and I actually found writing on the screen a little nicer, I preferred the resistance (However that might have been due to the rather damaged s pen).
So my question is has anyone done a comparison? or have both? to help me decide. At the minute the Note pro 12.2 is around £389 at the minute and the surface is £549 (at its cheapest) so the note pro is considerably cheaper.
Also just a few other questions, how is the s pen for taking notes? Using this as a lab book replacement I need a good syncing tool, how well does evernote deal with hand writing recognition?. This is the other reason I was drawn to surface was because of OneNote.
Also I just wanted to point out I am not looking for a laptop replacement (although it would be handy when I don't have my macbook with me) ideally what should come first is how good the particular tablet is making notes and keeping my notes organised.
Thanks for all you help in advance.
James
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To the moderators, my apologies I didn't see the sticky at the top of the forum, could you please move this to the Q&A section.
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My views on this:
I've had the notes 1, 2, 3 and am currently waiting for the note 4
My son has the note 8
I've also has the Surface Pro 1, 2 and currently have the 3 (and LOVE IT)
I also have a Note pro 12.2
So i consider myself a bit of an experienced expert of stylus driven machines
The first and biggest thing you'll notice about the SP3 stylus is that it FEELS a lot nicer in the hand. Its a normal pen size and weight. This is a pretty big thing... and coupled with the OneNote built in functionality on a windows platform... this thing is sex on your lap.
(OneNote is a *massively* underrated app. I thoroughly recommend you get to know it... to me it rivals Excel in capability)
The Note range of stylus are all compatible with each other AND the Surface Pro 1 and 2. but NOT the Surface Pro 3. the SP3 uses very different technology (not wacom) and Bluetooth linked.
I suspect that if you can handle the lack of 3G connectivity, the SP3 will better suit your needs.
(btw just a heads up, the i7 model of SP3 has some thermal cut out issues, you might want to use the i5 model until MS can fix their thermal issues.)
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So I am in a bit of dilemma at the moment I am physicist and I would like to stop using lab books and move to something more electronic to store my notes / plots etc. My main uses are writing notes, making tables, formulas and annotating papers/powerpoints.
There are two tablets which I was considering one as you might have guessed is the galaxy note 12.2 and the surface pro 3. Originally I was considering the surface pro 3 because of its supposed to be the most accurate for the stylus integration. However once I tried the galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition (admittedly I haven't tired 12.2 but I guessed the s-pen integration was the same in the 10.1) I found it almost to be as accurate as the surface pro 3 and I actually found writing on the screen a little nicer, I preferred the resistance (However that might have been due to the rather damaged s pen).
So my question is has anyone done a comparison? or have both? to help me decide. At the minute the Note pro 12.2 is around £389 at the minute and the surface is £549 (at its cheapest) so the note pro is considerably cheaper.
Also just a few other questions, how is the s pen for taking notes? Using this as a lab book replacement I need a good syncing tool, how well does evernote deal with hand writing recognition?. This is the other reason I was drawn to surface was because of OneNote.
Also I just wanted to point out I am not looking for a laptop replacement (although it would be handy when I don't have my macbook with me) ideally what should come first is how good the particular tablet is making notes and keeping my notes organised.
Thanks for all you help in advance.
James
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Well, since you don't mention needing any real tablet functionality or android specific apps, and you do mention functionality (tables, hw recognition, etc) I would say the SP3 is a clear winner. The horsepower of the SP3 and the fluidity of OneNote with the full desktop version and all of it's capability and the ability to hop into Excel/Word if needed or run as a full laptop in a pinch with the the type cover and built-in stand puts the SP3 head and shoulders above the Note Pro 12.2
If you needed lighter weight note taking along with Android app functionality, and or WWAN capability then obviously the Note Pro would be better.
Admittingly, I also fully agree with everything that has been mentioned here. Not to branch off topic, but I remember in the early years when tablet manufacturers were first attempting to connect with a stylus, there was a lot of heat on what technology would be the better route and what source of code would be the optimal select. Resolve was difficult because everything was desperately needed. People were demanding a tablet that could take notes with unsurpassed accuracy, yet evolve into a laptop with the performance pf a desktop pc while on the go. Now that tablet technology has surpassed multiple revision updates, & mega disasters (that we wont even begin to mention), etc. students are more often found attending class with a tablet, over a pen and paper. Even the lightest high performance laptops rivaled tablets as laptops slowly started their transformation into something new.
Currently retired from some many years of developing multiple platforms and implementing hardware, I have personally achieved quite a wide selection of tablets, laptops, combinations, and hand held portables. Out of the selection my favorite are the Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 and the Surface Pro 3 512Gb with i7. Between these two devices I feel I have experienced the best out of both worlds. Yet truthfully, when it comes to "Taking notes" I tend to normally reach for the Note Pro before the Surface. However, don't get me wrong. When the roles are reversed, and I need true laptop performance with Power Point and Excel, I will reach for the Surface Pro.
As for the stylus. It really depends on what I'm going to need to do. I feel that both devices stylus's "Feel" great. But if were are defining "Feel" as in the actual way in conforms in the hand. The Surface Pro stylus is hands down more realistic of a feeling than that of my Note Pro's light "tooth pick" stylus. However you can achieve that sexy feel in your hand with the Bamboo stylus if you want to spend a little. Then the real question is again, what do I need to do.
The Note Pro is an excellent note taking machine. No question, no debate. It takes extremely accurate note taking and hand writing recognition to a whole new level. I have never experienced anything better to this day.
Now the Surface Pro is also an excellent machine. OneNote IS truly sex on your lap, so to speak, LoL, with this machine. The stylus accuracy is by far the same as the Note Pro, in my opinion. However this device gives me better performance when it comes to Excel and Word docs. Especially when you need to just hop right in as mentioned above.
In close, I could detail every aspect of each device. However, I feel that your conclusion would mainly depend on what you are wanting to do with it, so I don't want to just say that I like one more than the other and try to prove my reasoning. What I would like to provide you with is the reality of what I look for on a daily basis. That would be hands down the Note Pro. No matter if I'm traveling and need the absolute portability with excellent battery life; hands down the Note Pro. Needing to create, edit, develope, or give a presentation with power point; hands down the Note Pro. When I'm in a hurry and need to find a quick applicable application for something, hands down the Note Pro. When having to fly in and want to grab the latest Metar information while in the cockpit, hands down the Note Pro. Thousands of applications with the most part of them truly free in the play store for any event, hands down the Note Pro.
Again both devices are truly amazing machines, yet I still reach for the Note ahead of the Surface. Weight, battery life, functionality, compatibility, amazing resolution, etc, etc, etc; hands down the Note Pro. I wouldn't change it for anything.
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I'm in molecular virology and do biochem and a fair amount of math on mine. I do lots of reading, highlighting, and annotating in my textbooks. I use lecture notes for quick stuff. I tend to have my logitech k810 for typing out longer stuff. I use the handwriting recognition for my math only. My handwriting is horrible and it's a godsend. The larger screen is what sold me. I kept running into the end of the page before I was done with whatver equation I was working on with the note 10.1. This slightly larger model made it so my work fits perfectly.
The screen looks far better to me on the note 12.2 as well. I find the device lighter. It has better battery life to me, especially when touchwiz is gone and the tablet has been tweaked some.
Depending on the work I'm doing, I use different note programs. Instead of worrying about them all syncing in different ways, I just use drop sync to sync their individual folders and all my notes from various apps and tools are done in one click.
I considered the surface, but because of the extra price being so much more and it only running an onboard intel graphics chip I did not see it worth the extra cash. Minus molecular modeling and high level processing/graphics stuff I have successfully replaced my laptop 99% of the time.
You will need an aftermarket pen. The little dinky thing it comes with will just not cut it. Highlighting and math with it gave me a good cramp after a short time. I bought an aftermarket pen. The bamboo stylus feel carbon and have been happy ever since. The main recommendations for pens are the Bamboo Stylus Feel Normal/Carbon and the S-Pen 8pi
Thanks everyone for your input it is greatly appreciated.
At the minute a still don't know which way I am leaning .
Maybe I should of outlined my situations more in my original post, I use a rMBP as my daily driver so I use that for the office related things and programming stuff and I can't really see myself ever replacing it with a windows machine, linux however this could be an option which pulls me towards the surface pro 3 for dual booting as a spare linux environment and also being able to use zim which is a plus.
In terms of notes made on the note can they easily exported? I would like to be able to search them on device essentially, one reason I was asking about evernote.
How does onenote and the apps for the s pen compare?
Can you now directly pen into evernote using the spen? can you also write tasks out which go straight to evernote?
Also do you guys/gals once you have inked then covert to text? or do you do all your typing using a keyboard? I have an odd pleasure from just writing out my work and it also helps me remember what I have done. The whole reason for wanting to go electronic is so I can easily find something again!
jasimpson89 said:
Thanks everyone for your input it is greatly appreciated.
At the minute a still don't know which way I am leaning .
Maybe I should of outlined my situations more in my original post, I use a rMBP as my daily driver so I use that for the office related things and programming stuff and I can't really see myself ever replacing it with a windows machine, linux however this could be an option which pulls me towards the surface pro 3 for dual booting as a spare linux environment and also being able to use zim which is a plus.
In terms of notes made on the note can they easily exported? I would like to be able to search them on device essentially, one reason I was asking about evernote.
How does onenote and the apps for the s pen compare?
Can you now directly pen into evernote using the spen? can you also write tasks out which go straight to evernote?
Also do you guys/gals once you have inked then covert to text? or do you do all your typing using a keyboard? I have an odd pleasure from just writing out my work and it also helps me remember what I have done. The whole reason for wanting to go electronic is so I can easily find something again!
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So, one thing that no one has mentioned in this is that Onenote is also available for the note pro... so, that point is kidna moot imo...
for your questionn on the note apps, there is a good section in the themes and apps already on this.. several of your options are the LectureNotes as mentioned already, Onenote, Papyrus, Evernote, S-Note, and several other. each of them have their own things that make them "better" than others, so it will be on your to see how they fit with you.. a lot prefer Lecturenotes and Papyrus, some like Onenote, some Like Evernote.. test them for yourself and see how you like them.. Lecturenotes and Papyrus seem to give you more functionalility, but lack some of the exporting.. however, you can easily overcome all this by using dropbox/dropsync and just sync them to whereever.
Ihave the SP2 as well and i just bought the note pro 12.2.. have to say.. i love the note pro wayyyyy more than the sp2.. granted it is not the sp3, so i cant speak to its S-pen abilities.. but, the note pro for me does everything that my sp2 can/will do with the exception of the compatability of a smart card reader that i could use for work.. other than that, i can still easily do all MS docs (excel, pp, word, etc)on the note just as easily as on the sp2..
The screen on teh NP12.2 is jsut wayy better as well. and the size is outstanding and still manages to be lighter than the sp2...
For me, Ican use either the handwriting or a kb.. i personally bought the samsung cover keyboard.. i tried it and the zagg one.. the zagg was a tad lighter, but the samsung one jsut feels so much better to me to type on.. i have larger hands and the keys fit better and just feel better.. it is working great.
the benefit of the Note as well is the android and apps.. you can pretty much do anything on this that you will be able to on the SP with the eception of playing some "PC"games , but the SP is severely lackign a video card, so you cant even really do that well on the SP.. with the note, you can enjoy your time and play the games that are far more abundant for this as well..
I am personally going to sell my SP2 now that Ihave this.. there is just no reason to keep it as Ican hook my reader up to my PC and still do my email at home
Also.. don't quote me on this and i would suggest look it up, but i could have sworn a buddy of mine was talking to me about loading Ubuntu onto the Note?? if I am correct, it runs on a linux kernel right, so i could see this as possibly being true, but i am by no means an expert on this and this is just something that popped in my head when i saw you write that.. so, maybe look into that to get your linux fix
anyway.. hope this might help you some more.. if any questions, feel free to ask
edit... so looks like i remembered right.. check out this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2755962 Ubuntu on the note pro 12.2 enjoy
From my Fired-up Note Pro 12.2!
OneNote on android is awesome, but nowhere near the functionality of it on Win8.1
SNote is *nothing* like the capability of OneNote.
senectus said:
OneNote on android is awesome, but nowhere near the functionality of it on Win8.1
SNote is *nothing* like the capability of OneNote.
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yeah Ihear ya... but from my understaending, the real reason a lot like it is the synching portion between the tab and the pc... and you can overcome this with just about every other note taking app with some form of dropbox and just synch as well
I used onenote on my SP2 and liked it.. but i DL'd lecturenotes and think i like it even more..you have way more options with it and customizeable as wel... worth a check out
From my Fired-up Note Pro 12.2!
Hello guys,
First of all I'm sorry if my grammar or general "english use" sucks but be patient, it's not my mother language.
I would like to ask some help taking a decision.
Let me introduce my needs first:
I'm on the market to replace my old and trusty iPad mini (i know, i know Apple's devices bring horrible nightmares to all XDA users). I'd want a compact tablet (8" to 8.4 screen) that can easily slide in my bag and follow me everywhere, from university lectures to various trips. One of the main function I'd want to improve on is handwritten notes: as it is on my iPad i can't do it and I end up simply downloading professor's slides to read them easier but still writing up to 3000 pages of notes per year, and you know that paper loves to get lost or hide when you need it. Combining it with the constant need of raw power for games i'm left with very few choices, none of them 100% suited for me (unless Samsung decides to include his majesty the S-pen on the Tab S 8.4).
So, coming back to what i'm willing to ask to you, Nvidia Shield Tablet owners: would you reccomend this tablet for hand written notes? And by that i mean: writing on this tablet is almost as fast and comfortable as writing on the good old paper with an ink pen?
If not, what else would you buy, considering that the ability to run smoothly something like Asphalt 8 it's a must have?
Thank you very much in advance.
Matteo
I bought this tablet to replace a Galaxy Note 10.1
I use the Shield Tablet with the MyScript Smart Note app.
Comparing this to Galaxy Note 10.1 + LectureNotes app (My fav at the time of ownership), it's pretty close, but not quite as good.
Writing is accurate enough for me, but not quite as good as the note.
And the smaller screen makes it a little harder to write as well (Worth it for the smaller size to carry around though).
Compared to paper, I think the convenience is way better.
The only real downside there is the lack of friction on the 'paper'.
Even with an invisishield screen protector, the tablet writes a lot smoother than a piece of paper. This is by far the biggest downside in my opinion, but it's easy enough to get used to.
Great Tablet for everything not just writing
DemiosNC said:
Hello guys,
First of all I'm sorry if my grammar or general "english use" sucks but be patient, it's not my mother language.
I would like to ask some help taking a decision.
Let me introduce my needs first:
I'm on the market to replace my old and trusty iPad mini (i know, i know Apple's devices bring horrible nightmares to all XDA users). I'd want a compact tablet (8" to 8.4 screen) that can easily slide in my bag and follow me everywhere, from university lectures to various trips. One of the main function I'd want to improve on is handwritten notes: as it is on my iPad i can't do it and I end up simply downloading professor's slides to read them easier but still writing up to 3000 pages of notes per year, and you know that paper loves to get lost or hide when you need it. Combining it with the constant need of raw power for games i'm left with very few choices, none of them 100% suited for me (unless Samsung decides to include his majesty the S-pen on the Tab S 8.4).
So, coming back to what i'm willing to ask to you, Nvidia Shield Tablet owners: would you reccomend this tablet for hand written notes? And by that i mean: writing on this tablet is almost as fast and comfortable as writing on the good old paper with an ink pen?
If not, what else would you buy, considering that the ability to run smoothly something like Asphalt 8 it's a must have?
Thank you very much in advance.
Matteo
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First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the year.
I own a LG G Pad 8.3 and a Nvidia shield tablet (NST). The NST is recently purchased so I cannot say its perfect yet when it comes to writing. In my opinion the option of having palm rejection in the NST is delightful which makes writing comfortable. I am currently using Smart note as well but I also use WPS Office (kingsoft Office)--(with the stylus beta app) for handwriting and converting into text if I need something compatible with Microsoft word. The stylus is slippery on the NST I had better control with the LG since I had a screen protector and was using the joint sylus pro which I think is amazing for writing. ( I am actually thinking of adding a screen protector just to use the joint stylus pro with the NST because rumor has it it scratches the screen). The hand recognition in the NST is really good and I think good apps from the play store will give you the experience you are looking for.
I hope this helps, if you have questions I am happy to assist.
sorry if the writing is messy but I got to go for now.
Good luck
FYI I am also in UNI and I do a lot of writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
OneNote. Just use OneNote. With this tablet, it is by far, par.
Edit: OneNote w/ IFTTT. I'm getting some stuff DONE!
Thank you everyone for the support, now for each answer:
Eogram said:
I bought this tablet to replace a Galaxy Note 10.1 [...] is by far the biggest downside in my opinion, but it's easy enough to get used to.
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So, as I was thinking, the Note family from Samsung is still the best for notes in your experience? Frankly, I'm not a kid anymore (unfortunately) so if I have to choose beetwen "usefulness" and games I have to pick the first to justify the money spent...
Moeali8 said:
First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the [...] writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
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The G-Pad was one of my first thoughts having a G3 wich I'm loving (almost), but I'm not sure it is an improvement in practicality over the iPad.
I've seen that wierd stylus and I thought it was insanely expensive, but now I see it's only 30$...Worth it?
Being an automotive engineering student, my notes are all about graphs, schemes and sketches so I need accuracy and predictibility in how the tablet translates my movements as well as a reliable software that ignores palm and wrist inputs on the screen (that's my biggest complain on the iPad).
mrm0rbid99 said:
OneNote. Just use OneNote. With this tablet, it is by far, par.
Edit: OneNote w/ IFTTT. I'm getting some stuff DONE!
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OneNote relies on the NST stylus recognition or it has a built-in feature?
Side note: the Nexus 9....looks goood another contender? xD
DemiosNC said:
Thank you everyone for the support, now for each answer:
So, as I was thinking, the Note family from Samsung is still the best for notes in your experience? Frankly, Im not a kid anymore (unfortunately) so if I have to choose beetwen "usefulness" and games I have to pick the first to justify the money spent.
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If I was looking for a serious note taking piece of hardware... Yeah, I'd probably go with a note. I would also probably invest in a separate active stylus to use with it. The Note 10.1(2012) came with a pretty cheap feeling one. Light hollow plastic, not fun to use.
What you lose by going that route is a good AOSP-like experience. I don't like Samsung S touch wiz ui at all. And you can flash an aosp rom on it, but the stylus loses some features.
Eogram said:
If I was looking for a serious note taking piece of hardware... Yeah, I'd probably go with a note. I would also probably invest in a separate active stylus to use with it. The Note 10.1(2012) came with a pretty cheap feeling one. Light hollow plastic, not fun to use.
What you lose by going that route is a good AOSP-like experience. I don't like Samsung S touch wiz ui at all. And you can flash an aosp rom on it, but the stylus loses some features.
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I don't have the exact english phrase to say that but I'll translate litterally: seems like you're reading my toughts...
I spent the last 4 years of my life as an Apple fan boy because i was thinking that android was only Samsung...The touchwiz is insanely overloaded so that is my biggest concern about following the "samsung route"...
Anyways, today I took a look at the tab s 8.4 in first person and I have to admit that the display is amazing...Colors are cartoonish but so appealing I can't ignore it...
Unfortunately I'm not able to find a store with an NST to try here in Italy...
I was playing today with the note pro from Samsung and I must say that it is for note taking way better then the nVidia Shield Tablet I own myself although I hate the touch wiz layer. Nevertheless I use one note now on my NST for note taking.
Sent from my SHIELD Tablet using XDA Free mobile app
Congrats
Moeali8 said:
First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the year.
I own a LG G Pad 8.3 and a Nvidia shield tablet (NST). The NST is recently purchased so I cannot say its perfect yet when it comes to writing. In my opinion the option of having palm rejection in the NST is delightful which makes writing comfortable. I am currently using Smart note as well but I also use WPS Office (kingsoft Office)--(with the stylus beta app) for handwriting and converting into text if I need something compatible with Microsoft word. The stylus is slippery on the NST I had better control with the LG since I had a screen protector and was using the joint sylus pro which I think is amazing for writing. ( I am actually thinking of adding a screen protector just to use the joint stylus pro with the NST because rumor has it it scratches the screen). The hand recognition in the NST is really good and I think good apps from the play store will give you the experience you are looking for.
I hope this helps, if you have questions I am happy to assist.
sorry if the writing is messy but I got to go for now.
Good luck
FYI I am also in UNI and I do a lot of writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
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First congrats on the Tab S 8.4 and you are right amazing screen, really vivid and nice colors I've always liked Samsung's screens; unfortunately it stops at their screens . But why didnt you take a note if you wanted the S-pen and S-notes. Any way I hope it works out for you. Some great apps are Smart notes which has good hand recognition and lecture notes where I thing would help you with your graphing.
Regrading the LG G Pad 8.3 I'm still using it for standard media consumption like reading and browsing the net while my NST is mainly for games and the occasional web surf if its in my hands. And I'm still using the LG for writing my notes via Kingsoft office and stylus beta has my input method (best hand to text app i've used)
Anyways good luck.