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any1 try hand writing with a stylus? i know it sucks on the iPad, and also the Archos 101, but how is it on the Transformer? i need a tablet i can hand write on, so if you have tried it, let me know!
Capacitive touch screens and stylus support has always been relatively poor--there's just not enough precision. HTC might have licked it by adding an n-Trig digitizer to their newest 7-inch tablet (can't remember the name of the thing at the moment), but I haven't tried it myself.
Edit: Actually, here's some info: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/a-closer-look-at-the-htc-flyers-screen-and-stylus-aka-htc-scri/
If handwriting is that important to you, then you might want to consider the HTC.
yeah i would like to get the flyer, but im looking for something around 10"
today's amazon free-app is a keyboard app that supports hand-writing as input. it's call flext9
also supports voice, swype, and also a regular keyboard
try it out, it's free if you get it from amazon's app store.
or you could just try an app like genial writing with a boxwave stylus. I am using it for taking math notes at the university and my prof lectures like a machine gun.
My friend uses the ZeroStylus Pro and he says it's very good.
http://www.zerostylus.com/products-page/
I also use genial app with a boxwave stylus and it isn't bad.
Did try other cheaper stylus but boxwave is alot better,not tried zerostylus.
Itaintrite, have u compared boxwave with zerostylus?
You could try Grafitti from the market. It was brought back from the old Palm days.
I have a dagi stylus and it works relatively well. As far as apps the two I have been playing with and have found to be the best are
Handwrite
http://www.appbrain.com/app/handrite-full-handwriting-note/my.handrite.prem
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TabNotes
http://www.appbrain.com/app/tabnotes-(trial)/com.softwareincheese.tabnotes.trial
Both still need work to be perfect for my needs but are a good start. Have also tried Maple Paint but not what im looking for.
I've been using an app called handrite with the stylus. pretty solid. its fairly new, but the dev has pushed a couple updates in the couple weeks I have had it. Should get better over the next couple months.
https://market.android.com/details?id=app-my.handrite
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I also use genial app with a boxwave stylus and it isn't bad.
Did try other cheaper stylus but boxwave is alot better,not tried zerostylus.
Itaintrite, have u compared boxwave with zerostylus?
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I just ordered a boxwave stylus...that Genie app is da bomb!
Very intuitive, and very fast...just what I've been looking for.
I'm currently writting a note taking app. I'd love to hear some input (features etc). The current offerings felt really slow and lacking features to me.
I am looking at all the styli mentioned in this thread.. boxwave, targus etc etc.
The tips on all these look rather large/broad and dont seem that good for notetaking. It would seem that some precision would be lost.. kinda like writing a note with a broad-tip magic marker.
Is there a stylus out there with a "finer" tip?... or am I getting the wrong impression?
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I'm currently writting a note taking app. I'd love to hear some input (features etc). The current offerings felt really slow and lacking features to me.
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Ok...here are my suggestions after trying about 15 of them today....
1.) Speed...no lag...it's gotta feel really snappy.
2.) The UI has to allow for QUICK writing and clicking...no stuff scattered all over 20 different menus...
3.) I WISH that there were a way to allow laying the wrist on the screen while writing....(I know ....this aint gonna happen)
4.) One thing that I had a hard time with was the ratio of writing area to what is produced....I'd like to be able to write smaller and produce fairly large characters...I kept running out of room on a few of the apps and it's hard to scroll while writing.
5.) My opinion is that Genial and handwrite were what came closest to what I wanted.
IF you want a beta tester....I'll happily apply....
Is there any way to make notes on existing documents? .pdfs for example?
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Is there any way to make notes on existing documents? .pdfs for example?
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Repligo Reader. It's simply the best PDF reader out there for speed and rendering, and has all sorts of annotation features.
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Is there a stylus out there with a "finer" tip?... or am I getting the wrong impression?
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The Dagi is the closest. The problem is that the capacitive touch screens need a large area in order to register a touch. The Dagi at least allows you to see the "point" because of its transparent end. IMHO the tip still needs to be much more flexible because you still have to hold it relatively close to the correct angle for it to work well.
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Ok...here are my suggestions after trying about 15 of them today....
1.) Speed...no lag...it's gotta feel really snappy.
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I'll try to finish up some features and let you try it. So far it's the fastest i've seen.
2.) The UI has to allow for QUICK writing and clicking...no stuff scattered all over 20 different menus...
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What knd of functions need to be quick? pen/eraser, color...
3.) I WISH that there were a way to allow laying the wrist on the screen while writing....(I know ....this aint gonna happen)
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Yes, this is very difficult. Especially while keeping the tracking very fast. You're talking about analyzing the type (possibly area) of touch point basically. Android's event system makes this difficult. I hope they improve this soon.
4.) One thing that I had a hard time with was the ratio of writing area to what is produced....I'd like to be able to write smaller and produce fairly large characters...I kept running out of room on a few of the apps and it's hard to scroll while writing.
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I'm not sure if i understand this one.
IF you want a beta tester....I'll happily apply....
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Thanks. I'll keep you on the list for when something is ready.
Do any of these have an OCR (or CR I guess) type of thing? I use a pen and paper for taking notes currently, and it would be awesome if I could pick up a stylus have my tablet easily transcribe the notes for me.
http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/BambooStylus.aspx
It's Wacom. Of course it's good.
I purchased a Galaxy Tab™ Conductive Stylus from the Samsung website, even though their site said it wouldn't work with the GT 8.9 for some reason. As far as I can tell, there isn't much difference in this stylus and all other conductive styluses (styli?). It behaves just like a finger, allowing you to select with the tip of the stylus. The tip is rounded and fat which makes it difficult for fine writing in notepad type apps. I have practiced for a few days and have become fairly proficient at using the stylus to underline in textbooks and word documents. It's also good for signing documents with the right app.
Overall I'm happy with the purchase. The stylus has a good weight and feels like a quality product. I'd definitely buy the stylus again, despite being a few dollars more than the other top quality styluses made by other companies.
I heard that drawing or writing on the tab is pretty abysmal due on the fact that the screen has such a low sensitivity. (like the 10.1)
How is your experience with this? Can you write or draw reallysmall and precise?
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I heard that drawing or writing on the tab is pretty abysmal due on the fact that the screen has such a low sensitivity. (like the 10.1)
How is your experience with this? Can you write or draw reallysmall and precise?
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I wouldn't say it's abysmal. I knew I wasn't getting a WACOM digitizer like I have on my tablet PC, or a stylus as good as the Lenovo android tablet but it does a decent job for what I wanted it for, which is marking up pdf files and maybe signing documents in the future. I added a capture of my handwriting taken at writing normal speed with no special care taken to be neat. You must subtract for my poor handwriting and the fact that the app I used doesn't have very good ignorance of a hand laying down, so my hand wasn't balanced on a flat surface as is the case when normally writing.
thanks for the answer!
will be getting a stylus anyhow so i guess i will see how its like
i just bought a stylus and i must say the screen sensitivity issue is pretty bad.
i tried the stylus with my NexusOne and it produced far better results.
the samsung screen seems slow and unresponsive to handwriting
Any chance it's your ICS ROM? I'm on Overcome ROM and it works pretty well. My wife even decided she liked the stylus with her 10.1 on Task's ROM and I ordered another from amazon.
tried it with both roms.
it just seems laggy and slow. it doesn't get small circles like "e" or "l"
but i messed around in the build.prop and it got a little better. still not what i wanted it to be though...
I agree, it's a bummer because I believe the size is perfect for a small sketchpad :/
If you want to take written notes thought download the ASUS Supernote app, you can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204931
i would advise everyone to use freenote.
so far its the most complete note taking app i found!
Thanks for the feedback.
I´m in love with this smaller size, but since I discovered how much better the notetaking thingy seems to be with the 10.1" and TouchScreenTune, and given that the dev didn´t offer many hopes at all for the 8.9", I´m torn again between these 2 devices.
Could you please clarify if the "sensitivity issue" is bad enough to affect the proper selection/highlighting of text?
Cheers
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Could you please clarify if the "sensitivity issue" is bad enough to affect the proper selection/highlighting of text?
Cheers
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nah selecting highlighting is no problem what soever. it is very precise its just when you loop you "L" or "O" that is sometimes doesn't detect it. but for light usage its fine. annotating or highlighting pdf works a treat.
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nah selecting highlighting is no problem what soever. it is very precise its just when you loop you "L" or "O" that is sometimes doesn't detect it. but for light usage its fine. annotating or highlighting pdf works a treat.
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Thanks mate, that was very helpful.
I think the sensitivity is great. I use SuperNote on my 8.9 all the time for taking notes. No issues whatsoever and better than many other tablets I tried. Writing with a conductive stylus is smooth (not broken) and easy. Of course the resolution isn't down to what you could do with pen and paper, but that's a fundamental limitation that most all tablets share except for those that are designed with some sort of active alternative. The touchscreens have to be calibrated to pick up our fat fingers so they are relatively coarse. It's really a compromise so you don't have to have a stylus to navigate the interface like the older generation of PDAs used. I think the 8.9 is great with something like SuperNote that can take your writing and shrink it down to a decent size and align it on a line. You should really check this app out if your interested in taking notes because it is really really cool. It's only distributed on asus tablets, but the apk is floating around.
What would in your opinion be the best stylus for taking notes?
these two have caught my eye has anyone used them?
http://www.amazon.com/Just-Mobile-AP-818-Just-Mobile-AluPen/dp/B0042U9AT6/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...BEGSTA/dp/B004NYAHD4/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
I've used the top one, it's heavy and clumsy and hard to use for extended periods. I've yet to find anything that beats your fingers for typing on screen.
well I get one off ebay, its the same thing, made from the same material, why waste 18 bucks while you can get it for 1 bucks.
I would say it does increase the accuracy, but since the screen has multipoint touch screen, you have to lift your hand in the air to take note. Its really not practical for me, I just use it to play draw something.
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I would say it does increase the accuracy, but since the screen has multipoint touch screen, you have to lift your hand in the air to take note. Its really not practical for me, I just use it to play draw something.
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This happens even when you change the input mode to stylus?
Actually the stylus mode works pretty well for me.I've been using it way before it was merged in the nightly. Dees Troy who wrote the mod recommened a capacitance style and it works nice. Check his thread on rootzwiki it was only like 5$ on eBay. I had bought a more expensive one before and it was not nearly as good. Reason being the fat tip was calibrated for the tp with his digitizer. There's a whole technical reason behind it if you are interested check it out.
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I actually have a stylus and they're pretty cool. Only thing is there isn't a note taking app like the notetaker HD from Apple, I can't stand Apple, but I just wish someone would make an app on that par. And besides that is the multitouch problem. You can't have your hand rest on the screen or it'll take it as an input which sucks.
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This happens even when you change the input mode to stylus?
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Yes you still need to lift your palm, the only difference that i can see is that when you change to stylus mode, its somehow more accurate and easier to write with, but that doesn't change the fact that its still hard to write in general.
At the end of the day, using a pen and paper is so much faster, easier, and better. I try to use ezpdf to annotate lecture note, but at the end I don't use it since its really hard to write with.
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What would in your opinion be the best stylus for taking notes?
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I received the Wacom Bamboo Stylus as a gift and it feels great. It weighs 18.9 grams so it feels fairly natural in hand. It kind of sucks that we dont have any good Notetaking apps though. Maybe webOS does but I know that I haven't been able to find a good app in the Play Store. GoSMS has a nice smooth response to styli if you use the doodle/handwriting function so if you don't mind having your notes in a picture form, it works very well. I wish their team would release a strictly notetaking app because they definitely hit the nail on the head. Or maybe if they released their source for the handwriting plugin, someone here on the forums could build an app for notes. Anyways, good luck on the stylus situation!
Any cases out there that have a slot or somewhere to put a stylus?
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I received the Wacom Bamboo Stylus as a gift and it feels great. It weighs 18.9 grams so it feels fairly natural in hand. It kind of sucks that we dont have any good Notetaking apps though. Maybe webOS does but I know that I haven't been able to find a good app in the Play Store. GoSMS has a nice smooth response to styli if you use the doodle/handwriting function so if you don't mind having your notes in a picture form, it works very well. I wish their team would release a strictly notetaking app because they definitely hit the nail on the head. Or maybe if they released their source for the handwriting plugin, someone here on the forums could build an app for notes. Anyways, good luck on the stylus situation!
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Have you tried Antipaper Notes? It seemed like could work well with a stylus.
Antipaper Notes is great for the stylus!
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Any cases out there that have a slot or somewhere to put a stylus?
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http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Truss-...NE1Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336754363&sr=8-1
You might be able to get it cheaper elsewhere. I own this case for both of my TouchPad's and a similar version for my Nook Color. It works great, offers a lot of protection, and has a spot for a stylus.
Antipaper Notes is great for the stylus!
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It seems to wanna beg to differ unfortunately. I got similar results as with the other apps:
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Hi all,
I am looking into buying a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition when it does finally show up (I hope it is real soon). I have been looking into the old Note 10.1 to get a sense of how good the S-pen is for taking handwritten notes. I know an acquaintance who uses it to take a lot of notes and he raves about it. I want to get more feedback from people who have used the S-pen as a replacement for traditional pen and paper. Is it as good (or at least sufficiently close) to writing on a piece of paper? Is it quick or is there some lag? Can I rest my palm on the screen and still write in a comfortable posture or do I need to hold my hand awkwardly?
If it is as good as writing on a piece of paper then I am really excited. I can finally replace my growing pile of paper notes, which I can lose sometimes, to a digital copy and make life easier.
The pen is great. End stop.
However... finding the right note taking app for you is a different story. I'm not too thrilled with Snotes, and maybe the newer edition may change that. You have many other options, each with their relative (to the user) strengths and weaknesses.
OneNote
Papyrus
Lecture Notes
Write
Kno
Various office suites
Plus other drawing and note apps I've either forgotten about or haven't encountered.
If/when you get your tablet, take some time to try them all out. See which one offers you the best yield, be it drawing and writing, including materials from other sources, collating and organizing, searching, bookmarking, reuse and export, paper size/design/layout, use across other devices or platforms, backup and sync, online/offline. The list grows and grows.
It all sounds great on paper, until you try to use it practically every day.
My love is OneNote. But not the web or tablet versions; they are VERY VERY lacking. On my computer, however, you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
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How is the s-pen in terms of taking notes? That's my main question. Does it mimic the natural feel of writing on paper? I will definitely look into the alternative apps but my main concern is the viability of replacing a physical pen and notebook with this. Is it snappy and precise when you write with the pen or is it slow and cumbersome (like what a capacitive stylus is like on an ordinary capacitive touch screen).
Will I be able to comfortably take notes in real time, in a fast paced class for example? As long as that is doable, I am interested in buying it. But otherwise, I'd be disappointed.
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How is the s-pen in terms of taking notes? That's my main question. Does it mimic the natural feel of writing on paper? I will definitely look into the alternative apps but my main concern is the viability of replacing a physical pen and notebook with this. Is it snappy and precise when you write with the pen or is it slow and cumbersome (like what a capacitive stylus is like on an ordinary capacitive touch screen).
Will I be able to comfortably take notes in real time, in a fast paced class for example? As long as that is doable, I am interested in buying it. But otherwise, I'd be disappointed.
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It is the best, you can even record audio while writing and then save them both into on file.
Go here and watch some of the videos of it being used http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0krCDFLjdA&list=PL8095B2677327E09C
Multi window is great also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJhKAC2PJEE&list=PL8095B2677327E09C
MyScript Notes Mobile is a nice app that lets you take very good notes also https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visionobjects.notesmobile
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Some of that again depends on the app. Some handle maneuvering around the virtual paper better than others. Most have palm rejection settings. I've not noticed any lag between drawing and visualization, so I'd say the similarity to real ink and paper is pretty close. Depending on if and how the app uses the pressure sensitivity, too, could impact your perception of closeness.
Also the pen itself is. Cumbersome? For longer term use. If you check through the accessories threads, you'll find some good reference on pens that feel more natural in the hand, rather than as a skinny plastic twig, for ease of longer sessions. Being the digitizer is Wacom, the winners appear to be in the Bamboo family, from what I recall. I couldn't imagine a full day of note taking using the standard pen; hand fatigue would set in quickly (Caucasian male, average sized hands, for reference).
I don't know where you are, but most big box stores have them out for a hands-on experience.
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Thanks. Yes, I have been looking at several videos online to get a sense of how good it is. I think it is pretty good for taking handwritten notes. I'll very likely buy the new note 10.1... Just can't wait for them to release it. They should've released it by now actually.
It takes some getting used to. But it is simply a transition that is worth the initial effort. Take some time with it on your own before making the "public" transition. Nothing is more discouraging than fumbling with tech under pressure. But after a couple of days doing all your non public writing on the tablet you'll be ready to go public. At that point, put the paper pad in the drawer and go cold turkey into the digital realm.
Above all else get signed up with drop box or Google drive, get an app called file sync and back up your notes. There are too many threads around of "lost all my notes how do I get them back?"
Good luck! The original Note is a great device. I will envy those with the newer one. Too soon for me to upgrade though.
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It takes some getting used to. But it is simply a transition that is worth the initial effort. Take some time with it on your own before making the "public" transition. Nothing is more discouraging than fumbling with tech under pressure. But after a couple of days doing all your non public writing on the tablet you'll be ready to go public. At that point, put the paper pad in the drawer and go cold turkey into the digital realm.
Above all else get signed up with drop box or Google drive, get an app called file sync and back up your notes. There are too many threads around of "lost all my notes how do I get them back?"
Good luck! The original Note is a great device. I will envy those with the newer one. Too soon for me to upgrade though.
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Thanks for the reply. I have a Dropbox account with a ton of space so I am good with that. I am torn between buying the 8 inch Galaxy Note 8 or to wait and get the more expensive Galaxy Note 10.1 2014.
Now, my main reason to consider the 8 inch is because it is far more affordable, it is readily available right now, and there is some real world usage info to understand if it has any bugs, issues etc.
My main concerns are will the 8 inch be TOO small for taking notes, if it is powerful enough to last me for a long time and finally if the display is more capable at handwriting. The pluses for the new 10.1 is it is bigger, faster, probably has even better Wacom digitizer. But it is very expensive and being brand new we dunno if it has bugs and stuff..
So, anyway, long story short. What should I go for: Galaxy Note 8 or the new Galaxy Note 10.1? Will an 8incher be enough for taking notes? I just intend to take notes and read PDFs... Not into playing games or drawing etc.
Go for the 10.1 and try to get hold of the Bluetooth S-Pen (HM5100). A perfect combination. The built in S-Pen is good, but the BT one just feels like a real pen which helps with the writing.
Wait until the new 10.1 comes out and go check it out. It's only a couple weeks away now. Get one of each in your hands and see how it works out. I started out with a Nook Color and found that a "tablet" that size was just too small for me. But I have a co-worker that has a Note 8 and prefers that smaller size.
Looks like the price difference will be just about $200. So...put the price aside for a moment unless you ABSOLUTELY have no option to come up with that additional amount. Try them both out. See which one would work best for you. If you are gonna be using it for hours every day, then maybe you can find somewhere else to cut the $200 difference to get what will work best for you.
Frankly, if you already think it's too small, it probably is, and you'll be discouraged from using it.Which means the investment won't be as valuable.
Also keep in mind that if you are talking about reading business type PDF's, they were probably designed to be viewed on big computer screens and created in 8 1/2 by 11 paper format. So now you're gonna squeeze them down to the size of a 5x8 notebook. Maybe your eyesight can handle that. Mine can't. I wear reading glasses even on the 10.1. So be sure to read a couple full size PDF pages when you go check them out. That will probably impact your decision.
I currently have the 10.1 2014 edition and while I like it, I have a few frustrations.
1. pdf annotations take forever. Currently I've tried adobe reader, ezpdf, snote, and am finally going to try kindle since I heard it's very smooth though annotating on it leaves much to be desired.
2. If I sold my current 10.1 and upgrade to 12.2 it'd only be about an extra $150.
3. The extra space would be nice, since I find myself constantly pinching and zooming.
4. Some of the 'pro' features would be nice too (though I've heard it can be had on the 10.1 as well)
5. Thinking of selling my MacBook Air in favor for a 27" inch iMac for home use and the 12.2 Note pro for while I'm on the go.
I take a lot of hand written note in class, and while I'm not convinced yet I can ditch the paper and pen--I'm hopeful.
Any thoughts?
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I currently have the 10.1 2014 edition and while I like it, I have a few frustrations.
1. pdf annotations take forever. Currently I've tried adobe reader, ezpdf, snote, and am finally going to try kindle since I heard it's very smooth though annotating on it leaves much to be desired.
2. If I sold my current 10.1 and upgrade to 12.2 it'd only be about an extra $150.
3. The extra space would be nice, since I find myself constantly pinching and zooming.
4. Some of the 'pro' features would be nice too (though I've heard it can be had on the 10.1 as well)
5. Thinking of selling my MacBook Air in favor for a 27" inch iMac for home use and the 12.2 Note pro for while I'm on the go.
I take a lot of hand written note in class, and while I'm not convinced yet I can ditch the paper and pen--I'm hopeful.
Any thoughts?
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its pretty dead around here bud, Ijust got mine, wifi version, I had to root it clean it out and swap launchers to use it. I will say that it runs much better, however there are still bugs.. I press the home screen and I end up in the app box. I find a lot of apps look funky and do not run well. I dont really like the ipad due to it's limitations, but I'm thinking of sending this thing back and nabbing an ipad for travel.
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its pretty dead around here bud, Ijust got mine, wifi version, I had to root it clean it out and swap launchers to use it. I will say that it runs much better, however there are still bugs..
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Most of those issues are directly related to the fact it's the WiFi version. The LTE edition has a lot less issues. (My main argument for never buying a device with an Exynos. Snapdragon is simply more stable.)
I press the home screen and I end up in the app box..
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Try another launcher. That or perhaps you did something in Xposed.
simply dave said:
I currently have the 10.1 2014 edition and while I like it, I have a few frustrations.
1. pdf annotations take forever. Currently I've tried adobe reader, ezpdf, snote, and am finally going to try kindle since I heard it's very smooth though annotating on it leaves much to be desired.
2. If I sold my current 10.1 and upgrade to 12.2 it'd only be about an extra $150.
3. The extra space would be nice, since I find myself constantly pinching and zooming.
4. Some of the 'pro' features would be nice too (though I've heard it can be had on the 10.1 as well)
5. Thinking of selling my MacBook Air in favor for a 27" inch iMac for home use and the 12.2 Note pro for while I'm on the go.
I take a lot of hand written note in class, and while I'm not convinced yet I can ditch the paper and pen--I'm hopeful.
Any thoughts?
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I was in this exact situation. Even the amount cost wise to upgrade was the same for me. The extra space for what I do (math and biochem) was welcomed and probably my main deciding factor. It made a big difference for what I use the device for. I use ezpdf for my textbooks with no issue. I use dropsync to have them keep my home and work computers in line with my tablet work, reading, whatever I worked on. The pdfs size wise are hundreds to thousands of pages, full color, science textbooks. I use it for typing stuff and editing some of my website stuff as well. Occasionally digital painting when I get the craving. Otherwise comics or emulators for fun. I have replaced paper and pen almost completely, but you really want an aftermarket pen for it. If you work on it for any lengthy period of time that little dinky pen it comes with just doesn't cut it. It really depends what you are planning to do with it.
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Most of those issues are directly related to the fact it's the WiFi version. The LTE edition has a lot less issues. (My main argument for never buying a device with an Exynos. Snapdragon is simply more stable.)
Try another launcher. That or perhaps you did something in Xposed.
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I've never had this issue with any Exynos device, this one or my previous note 10.1 or phones. Going on 5ish years now. I've had zero stability issues or speed issues. I haven't had anyone complain about these things really in my thread. Never heard of this from friends with the devices either.
I always find if there's a problem it's touchwiz or some samsung crap at fault.
I'll give ezpdf another shot. I turned me off on it was I couldn't readily find the eraser?
I'm also taking chemistry and in the medical field so I'm hoping this note could last me well into my time in Grad school.
Sometimes it's challenging to find a workflow that works best for you. Things get harder if documents are complicated and therfore don't convert well or use a lot of resources when loaded.
For PDF annotation I'm now using Papyrus, importing into that application to note take over the PDF prior to exporting back out to PDF. Works ok for me but YMMV.
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muzzy996 said:
Sometimes it's challenging to find a workflow that works best for you. Things get harder if documents are complicated and therfore don't convert well or use a lot of resources when loaded.
For PDF annotation I'm now using Papyrus, importing into that application to note take over the PDF prior to exporting back out to PDF. Works ok for me but YMMV.
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Did you opt to purchase key features like the ability to type and use the highlighter etc?
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1. pdf annotations take forever. Currently I've tried adobe reader, ezpdf, snote, and am finally going to try kindle since I heard it's very smooth though annotating on it leaves much to be desired.
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can't comment on this since i don't annotate directly on pdfs... i open another window and take notes using papyrus while viewing the pdf split screen style.
2. If I sold my current 10.1 and upgrade to 12.2 it'd only be about an extra $150.
3. The extra space would be nice, since I find myself constantly pinching and zooming.
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the space is very nice. its a big upgrade for a little amount of money. this would be the deciding factor for me.
4. Some of the 'pro' features would be nice too (though I've heard it can be had on the 10.1 as well)
5. Thinking of selling my MacBook Air in favor for a 27" inch iMac for home use and the 12.2 Note pro for while I'm on the go.
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can't comment on number 4, but number 5 sounds like a pretty sweet tradeoff.
I take a lot of hand written note in class, and while I'm not convinced yet I can ditch the paper and pen--I'm hopeful.
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its only so-so for note-taking in my opinion. i write tiny and fast, and it doesn't quite keep up, or register that i've lifted the pen. i bought a bamboo feel stylus hoping that would make it a better experience, but no dice. so don't ditch the pen and paper just yet.
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simply dave said:
Did you opt to purchase key features like the ability to type and use the highlighter etc?
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Yes, I have unlocked all available features via in-app purchase. From the looks of it this includes the ability to import PDF. Sorry for not clarifying that.
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liquidquick said:
can't comment on this since i don't annotate directly on pdfs... i open another window and take notes using papyrus while viewing the pdf split screen style.
the space is very nice. its a big upgrade for a little amount of money. this would be the deciding factor for me.
can't comment on number 4, but number 5 sounds like a pretty sweet tradeoff.
its only so-so for note-taking in my opinion. i write tiny and fast, and it doesn't quite keep up, or register that i've lifted the pen. i bought a bamboo feel stylus hoping that would make it a better experience, but no dice. so don't ditch the pen and paper just yet.
-lq
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One thing that made me finalize my decision was just how little space I have writing when I'm in split-screen mode. Reading PDF on one side and taking notes on Papyrus on the other. A little cumbersome. I'mma pull the trigger and upgrade. Sell my tricked out MBA and get the iMac at home. I can't get over how nice the iMacs are. That screen is gorgeous.
I hope I say the same about the 12.2.
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One thing that made me finalize my decision was just how little space I have writing when I'm in split-screen mode. Reading PDF on one side and taking notes on Papyrus on the other. A little cumbersome. I'mma pull the trigger and upgrade. Sell my tricked out MBA and get the iMac at home. I can't get over how nice the iMacs are. That screen is gorgeous.
I hope I say the same about the 12.2.
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I got the Note 10.1 2014 the day it came out. I use it for work meetings and take a fair amount of notes. I sold my 10.1 2014 and got the 12.2 about 2 months ago. The 12.2 is much better for taking notes. It is more like the size of a real note pad. The newer version of touchwiz seems lighter than on the 2014 as well. Based on what you have asked the 12.2 should be a better fit.
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Most of those issues are directly related to the fact it's the WiFi version. The LTE edition has a lot less issues. (My main argument for never buying a device with an Exynos. Snapdragon is simply more stable.)
Try another launcher. That or perhaps you did something in Xposed.
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I have the wifi version (Exynos) and use Apex launcher. I use it 1-2 hours every night and can't remember it ever having "issues" other than maybe a little lag after running for a week or two without a reboot. A reboot and I'm good for another week or so. Although there is some good argument for the snapdragon version for better developer support I think that is the only reason. I have seen nothing so that leads me to believe the snapdragon version would be faster or more stable.
Just finally got the Note 12.2 Yesterday. Love it going to start using it in class today. One feature I really miss is the fast charging from Snapdragon devices but other than that nothing much. Lol my second exynos device, my note 2 was my first. Not many issues so far.
I was worried at first but it's not to laggy. It's really TouchWiz ran nova for a bit and it flew and I'm on stock so the deflated roms will be even better.
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simply dave said:
I'll give ezpdf another shot. I turned me off on it was I couldn't readily find the eraser?
I'm also taking chemistry and in the medical field so I'm hoping this note could last me well into my time in Grad school.
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You could be fine then.
With this and gesture shortcuts I fly around to the things I need back and forth no issue. I tutor premeds and I study molecular virology and am doing the Grad School gig and I have no issue. The screen space upgrade for equations and such is what sold me. That was the only improvement from the 10.1 I needed once I used it for a few days I was pretty sure I could make it work. It doesn't seem that much larger but it made a world of difference. I can't do the whole continue my equation onto a second line even with proper annotation thing it drives me nuts.
So far I have done it. I don't do split screen, easy pdf makes a copy of my pdf so I leave the original pristine then I annotate into that, dropbox deals with all of it. If I use something to take note taking apps I prefer lecture notes over papyrus. Most the time I keep lecture notes open and the book open, then use LAS https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abhi.lastappswitcher&hl=en, which will switch back to your last app like a tv romote can, makes switching between almost instant. Nice and smooth work without much waiting.
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naruto.ninjakid said:
Just finally got the Note 12.2 Yesterday. Love it going to start using it in class today. One feature I really miss is the fast charging from Snapdragon devices but other than that nothing much. Lol my second exynos device, my note 2 was my first. Not many issues so far.
I was worried at first but it's not to laggy. It's really TouchWiz ran nova for a bit and it flew and I'm on stock so the deflated roms will be even better.
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If you're on wifi the sm-p900 go grabbed my debloated one. You'll be happy, mem startup drops from around 2 to around 1gbs, just from all the bloat crap they have.