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Is the Pen Mightier?

So after giving this some thought this last week I decided to stick with the infinity over trading in for the Note 10.1. I just think the Infinity is superior product. I benchmark, stock and not rooted, at about 13,000 and I/O is and acceptable 450.
Obviously the big "breath taking" feature of the note is the S- Pen and in my opinion the biggest reason I might have had tablet envy. The pen is something that I can use on a daily basis for work since I take so many notes. I just can't get over the plastic, slow up dates from Samsung and no FHD screen. Also, the addition of the keyboard doc lets you take the Infinity to whole different level. I have set out to see if I can capture the "pen experience" in the Infinity and this is what I have found so far. I hope the rest of you will share ideas and experiences as well.
Stylus: I have tried several since I had a Asus Prime and found most not to be sufficient for my needs. The cheap ones are surely cheap and wear out quickly. Some even leave a residue behind on the screen. After several tries I have found the Adonit Jot Pro to be the most accurate and best all around for my needs. It works well when swiping the screen ( I only use it for that when I am using the jot pro to write with) and gives clear translation of what I write without skipping. I will probably order some extra discs right away since I can see that being a potential issue and could shut me down using until replacements arrive. One thing I do not like about the jot pro stylus is I wish they would have put one more revolution of threads on the cap. It has fallen off once and having the tip exposed while while carrying around could damage the disc. So be careful to make sure it is not cross threaded and put back in place securely.
Screen Protector: I had the Zagg protector but it is much to sticky to use with the jot stylus. I do not think it works well with any of them personally. I do not have a screen protector on my screen currently but have ordered and should recieve Monday clear Acaseview screen protector that was recommended in another post. I will update when I have installed and used
Software/ Apps: I am mainly using SuperNote to take my notes. It functions really well to take notes on the fly. I have several note books setup for various topics. I have also setup a notebook that has forms in it that use regularly and usually fill out using paper and pen. I scanned an image of each form and inserted them into a page in Supernote. When I go to fill them out I simply use the insert annotation feature and "bingo" I have a non paper version of the form that I can archive and retrieve at any time.
One challenge of Supernote is that it is not too strong on export natively. You can either export to an .SNE file which can be read by nothing but supernote or share via email or other apps. There is no .pdf function built in which would be great if ASUS would update this functionality. My solution to this is to share everything to Evernote where you can pretty much do anything you want to with the information at that point. The possibilities are endless. By using the recent apps list it is very easy to switch between both and if you use overskreen as a browser you get that placebo effect of multi tasking ( ok, maybe not.)
Another useful program to share to is scan to pdf and you can skip Evernote altogether.
On a side note I found it interesting that the day the Samsung was launched the ICS+ browser and google release a beta that allowed you to write your search criteria that was converted to text in the search box.
These are just a few ideas that I have come up with in just a few days. I am happily taking notes on my infinity and my eyes love me for full HD. I am sure there is more out there and more to come. I look forward to learning more from those of you that care to share what you have come up with.

Nice post, and great to see what you've come up with. I am still in doubt about using a screen protector (not so much for the protection, but for the glare reduction), so I'll keep an eye on what you think of your soon-to-come addition. I do not take notes that religiously -- that's not true, to be honest; I take notes all the times, but on paper next to my 700 -- so I'll have to remind me to give Overskreen and SuperNote a whirl.

Update to Screen Protector
An update that the acaseview screen protector works great with the adonit jot pro stylus. Pen moves just as freely as if there was not a screen protector on and recognition of hand writing is great. The screen protector fits the tf700 perfectly and seems to be high quality. Here is the amazon link to the version I purchased.
http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-T...eywords=acaseview+screen+protector+asus+tf700

How do you deal with your palm messing things up? I assume with the Note that wouldn't be a problem since the stylus isn't capacitive.

I'd have to recommend the sensu brush or the truglide stylus.

P!X3L said:
I'd have to recommend the sensu brush or the truglide stylus.
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Got the Sensu brush yesterday. Very nice.

okantomi said:
Got the Sensu brush yesterday. Very nice.
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I've only had mine for a couple weeks but it really is the best I've used. The apps are somewhat limited, but that will all change sooner or later. For now, I'm loving the Sensu Brush and Photoshop Touch.

hajalie24 said:
How do you deal with your palm messing things up? I assume with the Note that wouldn't be a problem since the stylus isn't capacitive.
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Maybe it is my writing style but I seem to not have a problem with my palm "messing things up"
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I'd have to recommend the sensu brush or the truglide stylus.
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I will have to give the sensu a try. I looked at the truglide but passed because it was so much shorter than a regular pen. I see now that they do offer a full size stylus so it may work great as well.

Agree for pen part, but the true strength to my surprise on galaxy note is speed and stability. I have encountered only a single crush after 30 to 40 hours of use. As stable as iOS perhaps better. But I do miss hd resolution.

Note or Infinity for students?

Little background, I'm a business student, and am looking for a tablet which can replace my really clunky and heavy laptop. Will mainly use it to view lecture slides and take down notes. Would the Note 10.1 or the Transformer be a better option?
P.S. Do note (no pun intended) that if I do get the 10.1, I'll most probably be buying a bluetooth keyboard to complement it. It won't be solely just using the S Pen, but more of a mixture of both. Which is something the Transformer probably can't provide.

If you do not aim to take notes with the s-pen and you prefer a keyboard so the Infinity would be better for you.

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If you do not aim to take notes with the s-pen and you prefer a keyboard so the Infinity would be better for you.
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It'll be a mixture of both actually. Sometimes it's easier to make annotations on the slides itself, other times typing would be a better options. Haha. I'll edit my OP to make it clearer.

Well if you want to take lag free handwritten notes with an app like "LectureNotes" then there is no question - the Note 10.1.

Definitely the Note. It has S-Note app which is all you need for importing PDF files, highlighting, note-taking, and other school work. Plus, the S-Pen is ridiculously good for tablets. iPad and other mainstream tablets can't even come close to Note's S-Pen capabilities. Why the hell would you want to write notes using a so-called "pen" that is as thick as a marker? That never made sense.
I would get Infinity without a doubt if I were using the tablet MAINLY for entertainment purposes, because you could watch movies and play games on a 1080p screen powered by nvidia's tegra 3 ARM processor.

I much prefer a pen approach then a keyboard one when taking notes, mainly because i have to write things all over a page and not in a linear fashion.
So I'll say that if you are a visual person go for the Note. It's a great tablet and honestly you can survive without a full HD screen on a 10" screen. It's not as bad as marketing wants you to believe.
It would be awesome if there was a 8.9" option for the note

Im in the same boat. I used a prime last semester and found i didnt really use the keyboard because i couldnt take notes the way i wanted. Using the jote 10.1 so far this semester and its much better. Plus i think there is a keyboard dock for the note as well or a bluetooth one if you want that as well.

Spectral1991 said:
Little background, I'm a business student, and am looking for a tablet which can replace my really clunky and heavy laptop. Will mainly use it to view lecture slides and take down notes. Would the Note 10.1 or the Transformer be a better option?
P.S. Do note (no pun intended) that if I do get the 10.1, I'll most probably be buying a bluetooth keyboard to complement it. It won't be solely just using the S Pen, but more of a mixture of both. Which is something the Transformer probably can't provide.
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GNote, hands down. I do both and both are very doable.

G-Note is better i had the same decission to make, in the end the official 10.1 accessoires list a keyboard in case you really need one, so you really cannot go wrong.

I would say the note. I currently use a tf101(original transformer). I think i have used the keyboard all of a dozen time in the last 1.5 years.
Just bought my wife the note and i'm am totally sold. I'll be buying my own next month. For handwritten notes, it is amazing. In lecture notes i usually have to zoom in to 200% to take notes, and they are only so clean looking, on the tf. With the note i can actually take legible notes at 100% zoom.
so i would say note and bluetooth keyboard if you need it.

Note vs Typing. Real World College Reviews?

Im looking for real world feedback about using the Note 10.1 for school
work. I won't be taking any art related or technical classes, but business
related. Typing on a keyboard is much cleaner and faster than handwriting,
so I personally think having a Bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a regular
tablet might be better. For general note taking, words per minute is much
faster with a keyboard. Using a tablet with a PDF as a markup tool, I can
add text boxes to PDF documents by pressing and holding, then typing the
notes. I would be able to change the font size and color as well.
Also, I've been doing school online for a while at a school that didn't
really offer ebooks. I'm getting ready to transfer elsewhere, so I anyone
can answer some of the following, it would really help:
-What does the pricing and availability look like for college ebooks? I
understand you can "rent" ebooks for a lower price and it expires after the
designated amount of time.
-What is the typical format for college ebooks? And do they allow you to
mark up the text like a PDF would?
Ultimately, I'm deciding between the Nexus 10 and Note. Having the
resolution of the Nexus will surely help with small text. For business
related classes, I'm just not seeing complete use for the S-pen to strictly
take notes when I can buy a Bluetooth keyboard for $20. If anyone out there
has used both a regular keyboard the Note for college work, please let me
know your opinion. Thanks.
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Sher The Love said:
Im looking for real world feedback about using the Note 10.1 for school
work. I won't be taking any art related or technical classes, but business
related. Typing on a keyboard is much cleaner and faster than handwriting,
so I personally think having a Bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a regular
tablet might be better. For general note taking, words per minute is much
faster with a keyboard. Using a tablet with a PDF as a markup tool, I can
add text boxes to PDF documents by pressing and holding, then typing the
notes. I would be able to change the font size and color as well.
Also, I've been doing school online for a while at a school that didn't
really offer ebooks. I'm getting ready to transfer elsewhere, so I anyone
can answer some of the following, it would really help:
-What does the pricing and availability look like for college ebooks? I
understand you can "rent" ebooks for a lower price and it expires after the
designated amount of time.
-What is the typical format for college ebooks? And do they allow you to
mark up the text like a PDF would?
Ultimately, I'm deciding between the Nexus 10 and Note. Having the
resolution of the Nexus will surely help with small text. For business
related classes, I'm just not seeing complete use for the S-pen to strictly
take notes when I can buy a Bluetooth keyboard for $20. If anyone out there
has used both a regular keyboard the Note for college work, please let me
know your opinion. Thanks.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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I despise taking notes with a keyboard because when it comes to graphics it's too slow and inconvenient on a keyboard. I actually chose to buy a Note 10.1 over having a laptop because of it's great capability to take notes in handwriting. You won't have much luck with eBooks. Although it will change its just a matter of when. You can mark up PDFs easily by importing them into S-Note. I actually bought a Apple Bluetooth keyboard to pair with this tablet and after making sure it was compatible I have never used it. I've just been carrying it around in my backpack. It really depends on your style. There are people who can take notes effectively on a computer and others who can take notes with a fat stylus on an iPad which involves a lot of panning and resizing. For me I wanted to be able to always have all my notes with me and I wanted accurate handwritten notes. The Note 10.1's S-Pen made the learning curve basically zero. I've really enjoyed this tablet since I've been using it for my school notes since it came out.
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PurpleSh4rk said:
I despise taking notes with a keyboard because when it comes to graphics it's too slow and inconvenient on a keyboard. I actually chose to buy a Note 10.1 over having a laptop because of it's great capability to take notes in handwriting. You won't have much luck with eBooks. Although it will change its just a matter of when. You can mark up PDFs easily by importing them into S-Note. I actually bought a Apple Bluetooth keyboard to pair with this tablet and after making sure it was compatible I have never used it. I've just been carrying it around in my backpack. It really depends on your style. There are people who can take notes effectively on a computer and others who can take notes with a fat stylus on an iPad which involves a lot of panning and resizing. For me I wanted to be able to always have all my notes with me and I wanted accurate handwritten notes. The Note 10.1's S-Pen made the learning curve basically zero. I've really enjoyed this tablet since I've been using it for my school notes since it came out.
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Thanks for the reply! It definitely seems more convenient and quicker for smaller notes on graphics as you mentioned. As far as "not having luck with ebooks," is that from a mark up stand point or the general availability and use for college classes?
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Sher The Love said:
Thanks for the reply! It definitely seems more convenient and quicker for smaller notes on graphics as you mentioned. As far as "not having luck with ebooks," is that from a mark up stand point or the general availability and use for college classes?
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Availability and pricing for the most part. Amazon and Apple have been negotiating with textbook publishers for some time but the publishers are too greedy to provide affordable ebooks because it will cut into their profits. For the few books I have read the Kindle app works great. You can highlight, bookmark and make notes. All of which you can quickly find in in a list of all your markups.
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Is it possible to make handwritten notes in Kindle e-books?
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Sher The Love said:
Im looking for real world feedback about using the Note 10.1 for school
work. I won't be taking any art related or technical classes, but business
related. Typing on a keyboard is much cleaner and faster than handwriting,
so I personally think having a Bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a regular
tablet might be better. For general note taking, words per minute is much
faster with a keyboard. Using a tablet with a PDF as a markup tool, I can
add text boxes to PDF documents by pressing and holding, then typing the
notes. I would be able to change the font size and color as well.
Also, I've been doing school online for a while at a school that didn't
really offer ebooks. I'm getting ready to transfer elsewhere, so I anyone
can answer some of the following, it would really help:
-What does the pricing and availability look like for college ebooks? I
understand you can "rent" ebooks for a lower price and it expires after the
designated amount of time.
-What is the typical format for college ebooks? And do they allow you to
mark up the text like a PDF would?
Ultimately, I'm deciding between the Nexus 10 and Note. Having the
resolution of the Nexus will surely help with small text. For business
related classes, I'm just not seeing complete use for the S-pen to strictly
take notes when I can buy a Bluetooth keyboard for $20. If anyone out there
has used both a regular keyboard the Note for college work, please let me
know your opinion. Thanks.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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If I where you I would, undoubtedly pick an Asus Transformer tablet. It's a laptop when you want it to be (kinda) and a tablet when you decide to read, browse some or anything but typing really. You get a huge battery when linked (something like 12h), standard USB ports and a trackpad that is in my opinion superior to the touchscreen when writing. And the build quality is just amazing, at least compared to this Note 10.1.
Font get me wrong, as an engineering student I love my note and I wouldn't trade it for any other tablet without a digitizer. But if you aren't using the pen the way I do, there are way better tablets out there.
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Axel_ said:
If I where you I would, undoubtedly pick an Asus Transformer tablet. It's a laptop when you want it to be (kinda) and a tablet when you decide to read, browse some or anything but typing really. You get a huge battery when linked (something like 12h), standard USB ports and a trackpad that is in my opinion superior to the touchscreen when writing. And the build quality is just amazing, at least compared to this Note 10.1.
Font get me wrong, as an engineering student I love my note and I wouldn't trade it for any other tablet without a digitizer. But if you aren't using the pen the way I do, there are way better tablets out there.
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Thanks for the advice. I actually had the tf700 some time back. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the slow io issues. My wife's almost two tear old galaxy tab loaded everything faster! My solution to that is a flip cover and add on keyboard with track pad. Of course,battery life won't be nearly as good.

Kumabjorn said:
Is it possible to make handwritten notes in Kindle e-books?
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Unfortunately not yet.
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Sher The Love said:
Thanks for the advice. I actually had the tf700 some time back. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the slow io issues. My wife's almost two tear old galaxy tab loaded everything faster! My solution to that is a flip cover and add on keyboard with track pad. Of course,battery life won't be nearly as good.
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I had the TF201 for about a month with the keyboard and I really tried to like it but the keyboard was too cramped and didn't balance the tablet's weight well. I did enjoy the 3 day battery life out of it. I usually get two sometimes 3 on my Note without any external keyboard battery.
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Sher The Love said:
Thanks for the advice. I actually had the tf700 some time back. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the slow io issues. My wife's almost two tear old galaxy tab loaded everything faster! My solution to that is a flip cover and add on keyboard with track pad. Of course,battery life won't be nearly as good.
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From what I've heard the new transformer won't have these issues at all and just looking at the hardware it seems pretty promising. I have not seen nor tested one on real life so I don't know how good it is. But before buying another one, I should give it a try and browse for some tests because I think it's really good.
All these androids apart though, have you considered the new Microsoft surface? A decent MS Office is something I would really value. And the pro version even got a stylus with the same technology the Note has!
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Well, I am studying chemistry and biology, but maybe youll find my feedback useful.
I purchased the note 10.1 specifically for taking notes during lectures, as didnt want keep carrying tons of notebooks with me. Plus, our lecturers usually put the PDF file of their lectures in the website, so I can download them before the lecture and during lecture add some useful information and comments to it. During lectures I can eqully well draw schemes, diagrams, graphs, reactions and just write the general stuff. Tiny button at the side of S-pen can be customised to change eg, colour of writing by clicking it, which makes it really perfect when you need to distinguish between lots of different type of information.
When buying I was a bit confused, I didnt know if the writing would be good enough for fast note taking, but after a while I was completely happy with the accuracy and speed of the writing with the S-pen. I almost dont use typing, as handwriting (mechanical movement of the hand) actually helps to memorise information, and thats what you need during studies.
I actually think that this tablet is the most useful tool I bought in recent years, and truly, it has no competitors in making notes.

[Q] How good is the S-pen for taking notes?

Hi all,
I am looking into buying a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition when it does finally show up (I hope it is real soon). I have been looking into the old Note 10.1 to get a sense of how good the S-pen is for taking handwritten notes. I know an acquaintance who uses it to take a lot of notes and he raves about it. I want to get more feedback from people who have used the S-pen as a replacement for traditional pen and paper. Is it as good (or at least sufficiently close) to writing on a piece of paper? Is it quick or is there some lag? Can I rest my palm on the screen and still write in a comfortable posture or do I need to hold my hand awkwardly?
If it is as good as writing on a piece of paper then I am really excited. I can finally replace my growing pile of paper notes, which I can lose sometimes, to a digital copy and make life easier.

The pen is great. End stop.
However... finding the right note taking app for you is a different story. I'm not too thrilled with Snotes, and maybe the newer edition may change that. You have many other options, each with their relative (to the user) strengths and weaknesses.
OneNote
Papyrus
Lecture Notes
Write
Kno
Various office suites
Plus other drawing and note apps I've either forgotten about or haven't encountered.
If/when you get your tablet, take some time to try them all out. See which one offers you the best yield, be it drawing and writing, including materials from other sources, collating and organizing, searching, bookmarking, reuse and export, paper size/design/layout, use across other devices or platforms, backup and sync, online/offline. The list grows and grows.
It all sounds great on paper, until you try to use it practically every day.
My love is OneNote. But not the web or tablet versions; they are VERY VERY lacking. On my computer, however, you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
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How is the s-pen in terms of taking notes? That's my main question. Does it mimic the natural feel of writing on paper? I will definitely look into the alternative apps but my main concern is the viability of replacing a physical pen and notebook with this. Is it snappy and precise when you write with the pen or is it slow and cumbersome (like what a capacitive stylus is like on an ordinary capacitive touch screen).
Will I be able to comfortably take notes in real time, in a fast paced class for example? As long as that is doable, I am interested in buying it. But otherwise, I'd be disappointed.

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How is the s-pen in terms of taking notes? That's my main question. Does it mimic the natural feel of writing on paper? I will definitely look into the alternative apps but my main concern is the viability of replacing a physical pen and notebook with this. Is it snappy and precise when you write with the pen or is it slow and cumbersome (like what a capacitive stylus is like on an ordinary capacitive touch screen).
Will I be able to comfortably take notes in real time, in a fast paced class for example? As long as that is doable, I am interested in buying it. But otherwise, I'd be disappointed.
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It is the best, you can even record audio while writing and then save them both into on file.
Go here and watch some of the videos of it being used http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0krCDFLjdA&list=PL8095B2677327E09C
Multi window is great also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJhKAC2PJEE&list=PL8095B2677327E09C
MyScript Notes Mobile is a nice app that lets you take very good notes also https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visionobjects.notesmobile
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Some of that again depends on the app. Some handle maneuvering around the virtual paper better than others. Most have palm rejection settings. I've not noticed any lag between drawing and visualization, so I'd say the similarity to real ink and paper is pretty close. Depending on if and how the app uses the pressure sensitivity, too, could impact your perception of closeness.
Also the pen itself is. Cumbersome? For longer term use. If you check through the accessories threads, you'll find some good reference on pens that feel more natural in the hand, rather than as a skinny plastic twig, for ease of longer sessions. Being the digitizer is Wacom, the winners appear to be in the Bamboo family, from what I recall. I couldn't imagine a full day of note taking using the standard pen; hand fatigue would set in quickly (Caucasian male, average sized hands, for reference).
I don't know where you are, but most big box stores have them out for a hands-on experience.
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Thanks. Yes, I have been looking at several videos online to get a sense of how good it is. I think it is pretty good for taking handwritten notes. I'll very likely buy the new note 10.1... Just can't wait for them to release it. They should've released it by now actually.

It takes some getting used to. But it is simply a transition that is worth the initial effort. Take some time with it on your own before making the "public" transition. Nothing is more discouraging than fumbling with tech under pressure. But after a couple of days doing all your non public writing on the tablet you'll be ready to go public. At that point, put the paper pad in the drawer and go cold turkey into the digital realm.
Above all else get signed up with drop box or Google drive, get an app called file sync and back up your notes. There are too many threads around of "lost all my notes how do I get them back?"
Good luck! The original Note is a great device. I will envy those with the newer one. Too soon for me to upgrade though.
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It takes some getting used to. But it is simply a transition that is worth the initial effort. Take some time with it on your own before making the "public" transition. Nothing is more discouraging than fumbling with tech under pressure. But after a couple of days doing all your non public writing on the tablet you'll be ready to go public. At that point, put the paper pad in the drawer and go cold turkey into the digital realm.
Above all else get signed up with drop box or Google drive, get an app called file sync and back up your notes. There are too many threads around of "lost all my notes how do I get them back?"
Good luck! The original Note is a great device. I will envy those with the newer one. Too soon for me to upgrade though.
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Thanks for the reply. I have a Dropbox account with a ton of space so I am good with that. I am torn between buying the 8 inch Galaxy Note 8 or to wait and get the more expensive Galaxy Note 10.1 2014.
Now, my main reason to consider the 8 inch is because it is far more affordable, it is readily available right now, and there is some real world usage info to understand if it has any bugs, issues etc.
My main concerns are will the 8 inch be TOO small for taking notes, if it is powerful enough to last me for a long time and finally if the display is more capable at handwriting. The pluses for the new 10.1 is it is bigger, faster, probably has even better Wacom digitizer. But it is very expensive and being brand new we dunno if it has bugs and stuff..
So, anyway, long story short. What should I go for: Galaxy Note 8 or the new Galaxy Note 10.1? Will an 8incher be enough for taking notes? I just intend to take notes and read PDFs... Not into playing games or drawing etc.

Go for the 10.1 and try to get hold of the Bluetooth S-Pen (HM5100). A perfect combination. The built in S-Pen is good, but the BT one just feels like a real pen which helps with the writing.

Wait until the new 10.1 comes out and go check it out. It's only a couple weeks away now. Get one of each in your hands and see how it works out. I started out with a Nook Color and found that a "tablet" that size was just too small for me. But I have a co-worker that has a Note 8 and prefers that smaller size.
Looks like the price difference will be just about $200. So...put the price aside for a moment unless you ABSOLUTELY have no option to come up with that additional amount. Try them both out. See which one would work best for you. If you are gonna be using it for hours every day, then maybe you can find somewhere else to cut the $200 difference to get what will work best for you.
Frankly, if you already think it's too small, it probably is, and you'll be discouraged from using it.Which means the investment won't be as valuable.
Also keep in mind that if you are talking about reading business type PDF's, they were probably designed to be viewed on big computer screens and created in 8 1/2 by 11 paper format. So now you're gonna squeeze them down to the size of a 5x8 notebook. Maybe your eyesight can handle that. Mine can't. I wear reading glasses even on the 10.1. So be sure to read a couple full size PDF pages when you go check them out. That will probably impact your decision.

[Q] Galaxy note pro 12 handwriting

Hey folks. i did a whole lot of research on buying this.
Considering that it is quite expensive, and the facts below:
1) i dont have a laptop beyond work laptop
2) i do have a desktop pc
I was thinking whether it is worthwhile getting this and it all comes down to how good its handwriting function is as it is the only thing making it worthwhile for me.
I read reviews etc. I tried one at a shop (though they dont keep the s pen on the device to avoid help, therefore my play time was rather limited, and it was on 10.1 inch version).
I wanted to ask those that use this for notes e.g. lecture notes, or business meetings; how fast can you actually write on this thing?
Our natural handwriting is for sure faster, however i wanted to have a realistic picture on the device's ability to be used for such purposes. I assume that its a matter of getting used to it? Is there a way to adjust/reduce latency?
Other than that, from current long stand owners, any advice regarding buying or not?

Personally I had purchased the tablet not only to serve as my primary media consumption device but also as a note taking device for my business meetings. Having tried a gamut of note taking applications and settling on one (LectureNotes) I'd say that you need not worry about the lack of performance with regard to natural handwriting note taking. You will surely find an application that will suit your needs (it is quite possible that the S-Note app that is built in will work perfectly for you as well).
I recall seeing that you asked about the potential lag during pen input when note taking. For note taking applications where you're writing directly onto a virtual piece of paper the input is practically instantaneous. If there's any lag it is not so much that it would be distracting.
The tablet also allows text input into text fields using handwriting as an alternative to keyboard use. This function works fairly well but here because it is doing OCR of your handwriting input will lag a little and you'll undoubtedly have errors (the frequency of which is a function of your handwriting legibility).

thanks for the quick reply. I think you have helped me!
Basically i do not care so much about the OCR speed, as much as i care about the effectiveness of this device as a replacement of pen and paper. This is what i will be trying to do. Getting the 12.2 will essentially be almost equivalent as an A4 paper. If i am happy about the handwriting capture speed and effectiveness it will mean that i will be digitizing my handwritten notes, which will enable better organisation etc. Tonite may be the night i press BUY ..
Thanks for your help. If you have more feedback, i will gladly take it!

Yes you'll definitely like it for this. Most note taking apps allow export to PDF as well so you can save your notes for use elsewhere. This comes in very handy!

I have used my note to replace paper notes. I'm a college student and take lots of notes, this device allows me to take my notes as fast as I do on paper. With the added benefit of changing colors, highlighting, etc.
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In terms of handwriting on a notetaking app, workst excellent. It does take some getting used to because you're not encourntering the same resistance as you do on a physical piece of paper. There's virtually no lag. (A few milliseconds, but that's the limitations of technology. You probably won't notice it if you're not used to noticing it.)
The OCR isn't infallable. I've had a friend who's a doctor try to use the direct handwriting input in my calendar, the result was a language I'm fairly sure nobody on this planet has ever heard of. (I'm still not sure what it is I'm supposed to do tomorrow... :laugh: )
I should mention I'm used to working with Wacom pens as I'm a long-time Intuos user (In Photoshop) and I own a Note 3.
I've also bought a Wacom Bamboo Feel for Note, because to me the Spen feels too small for lengthy use. (It's fine on my Note 3, but not on 12.2"). The plastic one is nice and light, but the carbon one feels really awesome. Too bad it's another 50 quid over the plastic one...

Great question and answers. I am also looking at this tablet primarily as a note taking tool for Graduate school but I'm torn between getting the 10in or 12in. Does anyone here have experience with both of these sizes when it comes to taking lecture notes?
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LonelyTV said:
Great question and answers. I am also looking at this tablet primarily as a note taking tool for Graduate school but I'm torn between getting the 10in or 12in. Does anyone here have experience with both of these sizes when it comes to taking lecture notes?
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Yes. Personally I prefer the 12.2" because it's almost the exact size of an A4 paper. So no need to adapt to a smaller size. To me, on my 10.1" tablet, I kept running out of screen in the middle of my writing. Not to mention it was a little uncomfortable because your hand floats in mid air when writing anywhere but the middle of the screen. The 12.2" has almost 50% more screen.