Little background, I'm a business student, and am looking for a tablet which can replace my really clunky and heavy laptop. Will mainly use it to view lecture slides and take down notes. Would the Note 10.1 or the Transformer be a better option?
P.S. Do note (no pun intended) that if I do get the 10.1, I'll most probably be buying a bluetooth keyboard to complement it. It won't be solely just using the S Pen, but more of a mixture of both. Which is something the Transformer probably can't provide.
If you do not aim to take notes with the s-pen and you prefer a keyboard so the Infinity would be better for you.
myuoif said:
If you do not aim to take notes with the s-pen and you prefer a keyboard so the Infinity would be better for you.
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It'll be a mixture of both actually. Sometimes it's easier to make annotations on the slides itself, other times typing would be a better options. Haha. I'll edit my OP to make it clearer.
Well if you want to take lag free handwritten notes with an app like "LectureNotes" then there is no question - the Note 10.1.
Definitely the Note. It has S-Note app which is all you need for importing PDF files, highlighting, note-taking, and other school work. Plus, the S-Pen is ridiculously good for tablets. iPad and other mainstream tablets can't even come close to Note's S-Pen capabilities. Why the hell would you want to write notes using a so-called "pen" that is as thick as a marker? That never made sense.
I would get Infinity without a doubt if I were using the tablet MAINLY for entertainment purposes, because you could watch movies and play games on a 1080p screen powered by nvidia's tegra 3 ARM processor.
I much prefer a pen approach then a keyboard one when taking notes, mainly because i have to write things all over a page and not in a linear fashion.
So I'll say that if you are a visual person go for the Note. It's a great tablet and honestly you can survive without a full HD screen on a 10" screen. It's not as bad as marketing wants you to believe.
It would be awesome if there was a 8.9" option for the note
Im in the same boat. I used a prime last semester and found i didnt really use the keyboard because i couldnt take notes the way i wanted. Using the jote 10.1 so far this semester and its much better. Plus i think there is a keyboard dock for the note as well or a bluetooth one if you want that as well.
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Little background, I'm a business student, and am looking for a tablet which can replace my really clunky and heavy laptop. Will mainly use it to view lecture slides and take down notes. Would the Note 10.1 or the Transformer be a better option?
P.S. Do note (no pun intended) that if I do get the 10.1, I'll most probably be buying a bluetooth keyboard to complement it. It won't be solely just using the S Pen, but more of a mixture of both. Which is something the Transformer probably can't provide.
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GNote, hands down. I do both and both are very doable.
G-Note is better i had the same decission to make, in the end the official 10.1 accessoires list a keyboard in case you really need one, so you really cannot go wrong.
I would say the note. I currently use a tf101(original transformer). I think i have used the keyboard all of a dozen time in the last 1.5 years.
Just bought my wife the note and i'm am totally sold. I'll be buying my own next month. For handwritten notes, it is amazing. In lecture notes i usually have to zoom in to 200% to take notes, and they are only so clean looking, on the tf. With the note i can actually take legible notes at 100% zoom.
so i would say note and bluetooth keyboard if you need it.
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Hi guys,
I have been looking around for a decent tablet that i can use for school and home. I know netbooks, ultrabooks and laptops are good for school but im looking for something smaller and more portable since im always on the go and i hate carrying a heavy laptop.
I mainly need something that can:
1. take notes (.doc, pdf files, presentations) (will definitely get the dock with the transformer if i get some decent feedback about the asus)
2. fast browser (need for school sites such as blackboard) (adobe flash support)
3. fast speed, since i'm always on the go i need something i can turn on, do my work and move on to next class.
4. Decent battery (~7-8 hours)
Do you think asus transformer infinity tf700t is right for me? or are there any other tablets (small portable devices) that may help me more.
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also are there any problems that you are experiencing that might be a deal breaker.
Order one...
...from Amazon keep all the original packing.
Test drive for perhaps a week.
Keep if you like.
Return if you dislike.
* Also get some kind of cheap protection for the Infinity like a slip cover.
I like my tablet even though I really have no valid use for it.
Tried the Acer A700 before the Infinity liked it a lot...yet it had some real problems.
The Infinity isn't exactly a tablet that excels in note taking; it's arguably the best Android tab for content consumption around, but not content creation and productivity.. Since note taking appears to be a significant requirement for you, why not consider the new Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet? The Note 10.1 has an active digitizer built into it for writing and drawing on levels far superior to the Infinity and all other tablets without the built in digitizer.
In my opinion, the very best option will probably be (later, when released) a Windows Surface tablet with the active digitizer, full office suite, One Note, Journal, etc. For now, the Note 10.1 is the only game in town for the best note taking experience at its class and price point that still leaves room for a lot of the leisure activities we've come to love on our Android and iOS portables like surfing, video watching, games, etc.
I have both tablets (to eval) and the Infinity has a better display, but can't touch the Note 10.1 for note taking. Capacitive stylus writing seriously sucks compared to the active digitizer offerings. Writing with a capacitive stylus is akin to writing with a thick marker, brush, or crayon. I take lots of notes in meetings and HATE trying to write with a capacitive stylus or trying to type and quickly edit notes on the fly.
The Note 10.1 is plenty fast as well and has some stuff in it to sweeten the deal too like the IR remote with Peel bundle to be an interactive universal remote. The multitasking functions weren't all that useful to me on it as things stand currently since it limits you to apps that Samsung has chosen.
All this said and I still decided that I was keeping my Infinity because my primary requirement for my tablet was leisure stuff. I'm getting a Windows Surface Pro or competing Windows 8 slate for my productivity requirements in maybe 6 months. My Note 10.1 has to go back because I can't justify keeping two tablets even though it is really tempting.
In any case, buy it and use the return policy if you don't like it. For what you want to do, it sounds like a perfect fit.
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Hi guys,
I have been looking around for a decent tablet that i can use for school and home. I know netbooks, ultrabooks and laptops are good for school but im looking for something smaller and more portable since im always on the go and i hate carrying a heavy laptop.
I mainly need something that can:
1. take notes (.doc, pdf files, presentations) (will definitely get the dock with the transformer if i get some decent feedback about the asus)
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Works for me -- although it has been a fair while since I was a student -- although I must be honest and mention too that it heavily depends on the application you use for opening these kinds of files. I work in a hospital, have a lot of PDFs to read (articles, clinical reviews, blablabla) and that works really well. Word-format documents are good, but Excel-format documents I can only open and inspect -- the mostly complex formulas we use are not supported by any Android application I know of (SUGGESTIONS WELCOME!), so when I change a value, it only changes the value in that cell and not the end result of a formula referencing it somewhere else. Which is crap.
2. fast browser (need for school sites such as blackboard) (adobe flash support)
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As in the above, the browser provides Flash support, not the device, therefore this shouldn't be a factor in deciding which Android device to get (although the iDevices do not provide Flash support at all, so you do not have any real alternative, now, do you? )
3. fast speed, since i'm always on the go i need something i can turn on, do my work and move on to next class.
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The TF700 is instant on, instant off, provided, of course, you do not shut it off yourself.
4. Decent battery (~7-8 hours)
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I get 5 to 6 hours of screen-on hardy work time. When I do not touch the device at all, it goes on for about two days. So somewhere in between, depending on usage scenario. You should make it through a day of college or laboratory work. I travel to work in 2-2.5 hours, run a shift, then get back with the same commute time. I've never run dry on the go, but again this depends on your usage.
Do you think asus transformer infinity tf700t is right for me? or are there any other tablets (small portable devices) that may help me more.
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also are there any problems that you are experiencing that might be a deal breaker.
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Only you can decide if this will work for you. The Note 10.1 would be a contestant on paper specifications, but the S Pen has mixed user reviews -- some rave, some hardly ever use it. As I said, Apple products do not make your list due to lack of Flash support. The Iconia A700 is beat as well, but as already said, it has some REAL issues (i.e., probably-hardware-related issues).
I loved the TF700 when I got it (two weeks before retail), even with all its quirks and shortcomings. It has been patched up nicely with .26 and I suspect we will get some more love very soon in the sense of a JB update. That should eliminate some minor issues we sometimes still encounter. I have no hesitation to recommend the TF700 to anyone really in need of that HD screen, the charging keyboard dock and the removable storage options (those are the three main selling points in my personal view).
Wish you the best of luck, and do drop by when you decided to get the TF700, or if you didn't, and in both cases please let us know why -- you help out others in the same position as you are now. Thank you!
ashuras said:
The Infinity isn't exactly a tablet that excels in note taking; it's arguably the best Android tab for content consumption around, but not content creation and productivity.. Since note taking appears to be a significant requirement for you, why not consider the new Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet? The Note 10.1 has an active digitizer built into it for writing and drawing on levels far superior to the Infinity and all other tablets without the built in digitizer.
In my opinion, the very best option will probably be (later, when released) a Windows Surface tablet with the active digitizer, full office suite, One Note, Journal, etc. For now, the Note 10.1 is the only game in town for the best note taking experience at its class and price point that still leaves room for a lot of the leisure activities we've come to love on our Android and iOS portables like surfing, video watching, games, etc.
I have both tablets (to eval) and the Infinity has a better display, but can't touch the Note 10.1 for note taking. Capacitive stylus writing seriously sucks compared to the active digitizer offerings. Writing with a capacitive stylus is akin to writing with a thick marker, brush, or crayon. I take lots of notes in meetings and HATE trying to write with a capacitive stylus or trying to type and quickly edit notes on the fly.
The Note 10.1 is plenty fast as well and has some stuff in it to sweeten the deal too like the IR remote with Peel bundle to be an interactive universal remote. The multitasking functions weren't all that useful to me on it as things stand currently since it limits you to apps that Samsung has chosen.
All this said and I still decided that I was keeping my Infinity because my primary requirement for my tablet was leisure stuff. I'm getting a Windows Surface Pro or competing Windows 8 slate for my productivity requirements in maybe 6 months. My Note 10.1 has to go back because I can't justify keeping two tablets even though it is really tempting.
In any case, buy it and use the return policy if you don't like it. For what you want to do, it sounds like a perfect fit.
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thanks for the great tip..
i have looked at the windows surface pro (which comes out later in oct 26) and the samsung galaxy note 10.1 (the one that just came out)
I do very much like the samsung galaxy note 10.1 with the multi-tasking feature, stylus and note-taking but the lack of a proper dock concerns me a bit (i know i can get a bluetooth keyboard but its not the same as the transformer tf700)
as for the windows surface, i can wait for it to come out but i want to try something new such as android and see how i like that.
But following your tips i think what i will do is buy the asus transformer and try it for few days and see if it suits my line of work, if not i will try to the samsung galaxy note 10.1, and if i dislike both ill but the windows surface later on.
thank you
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Works for me -- although it has been a fair while since I was a student -- although I must be honest and mention too that it heavily depends on the application you use for opening these kinds of files. I work in a hospital, have a lot of PDFs to read (articles, clinical reviews, blablabla) and that works really well. Word-format documents are good, but Excel-format documents I can only open and inspect -- the mostly complex formulas we use are not supported by any Android application I know of (SUGGESTIONS WELCOME!), so when I change a value, it only changes the value in that cell and not the end result of a formula referencing it somewhere else. Which is crap.
As in the above, the browser provides Flash support, not the device, therefore this shouldn't be a factor in deciding which Android device to get (although the iDevices do not provide Flash support at all, so you do not have any real alternative, now, do you? )
The TF700 is instant on, instant off, provided, of course, you do not shut it off yourself.
I get 5 to 6 hours of screen-on hardy work time. When I do not touch the device at all, it goes on for about two days. So somewhere in between, depending on usage scenario. You should make it through a day of college or laboratory work. I travel to work in 2-2.5 hours, run a shift, then get back with the same commute time. I've never run dry on the go, but again this depends on your usage.
Only you can decide if this will work for you. The Note 10.1 would be a contestant on paper specifications, but the S Pen has mixed user reviews -- some rave, some hardly ever use it. As I said, Apple products do not make your list due to lack of Flash support. The Iconia A700 is beat as well, but as already said, it has some REAL issues (i.e., probably-hardware-related issues).
I loved the TF700 when I got it (two weeks before retail), even with all its quirks and shortcomings. It has been patched up nicely with .26 and I suspect we will get some more love very soon in the sense of a JB update. That should eliminate some minor issues we sometimes still encounter. I have no hesitation to recommend the TF700 to anyone really in need of that HD screen, the charging keyboard dock and the removable storage options (those are the three main selling points in my personal view).
Wish you the best of luck, and do drop by when you decided to get the TF700, or if you didn't, and in both cases please let us know why -- you help out others in the same position as you are now. Thank you!
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thank you for your great tips too [im new to xda but i love the community already, everyone's very helpful and willing to answer questions)
I will try out both samsung galaxy note 10.1 and asus transformer tf700t and see which one best suits me and probably post a quick post for my pros and cons as a student of both devices, which may help others in my position like you said
MartyHulskemper said:
...but Excel-format documents I can only open and inspect -- the mostly complex formulas we use are not supported by any Android application I know of (SUGGESTIONS WELCOME!), so when I change a value, it only changes the value in that cell and not the end result of a formula referencing it somewhere else. Which is crap.
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Suggestion for your spreadsheets, try Softmaker. Their android office suite is in final beta now and will likely be a paid app when released. I have been a fan (and regular user) of their office suite since my Jornada 720. I use it on my Windows, Linux, usb stick and my tf700.
btw, I love the tf700. If you're used to taking notes on a laptop, the 700 will fit right in for you.
Im looking for real world feedback about using the Note 10.1 for school
work. I won't be taking any art related or technical classes, but business
related. Typing on a keyboard is much cleaner and faster than handwriting,
so I personally think having a Bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a regular
tablet might be better. For general note taking, words per minute is much
faster with a keyboard. Using a tablet with a PDF as a markup tool, I can
add text boxes to PDF documents by pressing and holding, then typing the
notes. I would be able to change the font size and color as well.
Also, I've been doing school online for a while at a school that didn't
really offer ebooks. I'm getting ready to transfer elsewhere, so I anyone
can answer some of the following, it would really help:
-What does the pricing and availability look like for college ebooks? I
understand you can "rent" ebooks for a lower price and it expires after the
designated amount of time.
-What is the typical format for college ebooks? And do they allow you to
mark up the text like a PDF would?
Ultimately, I'm deciding between the Nexus 10 and Note. Having the
resolution of the Nexus will surely help with small text. For business
related classes, I'm just not seeing complete use for the S-pen to strictly
take notes when I can buy a Bluetooth keyboard for $20. If anyone out there
has used both a regular keyboard the Note for college work, please let me
know your opinion. Thanks.
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Sher The Love said:
Im looking for real world feedback about using the Note 10.1 for school
work. I won't be taking any art related or technical classes, but business
related. Typing on a keyboard is much cleaner and faster than handwriting,
so I personally think having a Bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a regular
tablet might be better. For general note taking, words per minute is much
faster with a keyboard. Using a tablet with a PDF as a markup tool, I can
add text boxes to PDF documents by pressing and holding, then typing the
notes. I would be able to change the font size and color as well.
Also, I've been doing school online for a while at a school that didn't
really offer ebooks. I'm getting ready to transfer elsewhere, so I anyone
can answer some of the following, it would really help:
-What does the pricing and availability look like for college ebooks? I
understand you can "rent" ebooks for a lower price and it expires after the
designated amount of time.
-What is the typical format for college ebooks? And do they allow you to
mark up the text like a PDF would?
Ultimately, I'm deciding between the Nexus 10 and Note. Having the
resolution of the Nexus will surely help with small text. For business
related classes, I'm just not seeing complete use for the S-pen to strictly
take notes when I can buy a Bluetooth keyboard for $20. If anyone out there
has used both a regular keyboard the Note for college work, please let me
know your opinion. Thanks.
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I despise taking notes with a keyboard because when it comes to graphics it's too slow and inconvenient on a keyboard. I actually chose to buy a Note 10.1 over having a laptop because of it's great capability to take notes in handwriting. You won't have much luck with eBooks. Although it will change its just a matter of when. You can mark up PDFs easily by importing them into S-Note. I actually bought a Apple Bluetooth keyboard to pair with this tablet and after making sure it was compatible I have never used it. I've just been carrying it around in my backpack. It really depends on your style. There are people who can take notes effectively on a computer and others who can take notes with a fat stylus on an iPad which involves a lot of panning and resizing. For me I wanted to be able to always have all my notes with me and I wanted accurate handwritten notes. The Note 10.1's S-Pen made the learning curve basically zero. I've really enjoyed this tablet since I've been using it for my school notes since it came out.
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I despise taking notes with a keyboard because when it comes to graphics it's too slow and inconvenient on a keyboard. I actually chose to buy a Note 10.1 over having a laptop because of it's great capability to take notes in handwriting. You won't have much luck with eBooks. Although it will change its just a matter of when. You can mark up PDFs easily by importing them into S-Note. I actually bought a Apple Bluetooth keyboard to pair with this tablet and after making sure it was compatible I have never used it. I've just been carrying it around in my backpack. It really depends on your style. There are people who can take notes effectively on a computer and others who can take notes with a fat stylus on an iPad which involves a lot of panning and resizing. For me I wanted to be able to always have all my notes with me and I wanted accurate handwritten notes. The Note 10.1's S-Pen made the learning curve basically zero. I've really enjoyed this tablet since I've been using it for my school notes since it came out.
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Thanks for the reply! It definitely seems more convenient and quicker for smaller notes on graphics as you mentioned. As far as "not having luck with ebooks," is that from a mark up stand point or the general availability and use for college classes?
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Sher The Love said:
Thanks for the reply! It definitely seems more convenient and quicker for smaller notes on graphics as you mentioned. As far as "not having luck with ebooks," is that from a mark up stand point or the general availability and use for college classes?
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Availability and pricing for the most part. Amazon and Apple have been negotiating with textbook publishers for some time but the publishers are too greedy to provide affordable ebooks because it will cut into their profits. For the few books I have read the Kindle app works great. You can highlight, bookmark and make notes. All of which you can quickly find in in a list of all your markups.
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Is it possible to make handwritten notes in Kindle e-books?
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Sher The Love said:
Im looking for real world feedback about using the Note 10.1 for school
work. I won't be taking any art related or technical classes, but business
related. Typing on a keyboard is much cleaner and faster than handwriting,
so I personally think having a Bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a regular
tablet might be better. For general note taking, words per minute is much
faster with a keyboard. Using a tablet with a PDF as a markup tool, I can
add text boxes to PDF documents by pressing and holding, then typing the
notes. I would be able to change the font size and color as well.
Also, I've been doing school online for a while at a school that didn't
really offer ebooks. I'm getting ready to transfer elsewhere, so I anyone
can answer some of the following, it would really help:
-What does the pricing and availability look like for college ebooks? I
understand you can "rent" ebooks for a lower price and it expires after the
designated amount of time.
-What is the typical format for college ebooks? And do they allow you to
mark up the text like a PDF would?
Ultimately, I'm deciding between the Nexus 10 and Note. Having the
resolution of the Nexus will surely help with small text. For business
related classes, I'm just not seeing complete use for the S-pen to strictly
take notes when I can buy a Bluetooth keyboard for $20. If anyone out there
has used both a regular keyboard the Note for college work, please let me
know your opinion. Thanks.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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If I where you I would, undoubtedly pick an Asus Transformer tablet. It's a laptop when you want it to be (kinda) and a tablet when you decide to read, browse some or anything but typing really. You get a huge battery when linked (something like 12h), standard USB ports and a trackpad that is in my opinion superior to the touchscreen when writing. And the build quality is just amazing, at least compared to this Note 10.1.
Font get me wrong, as an engineering student I love my note and I wouldn't trade it for any other tablet without a digitizer. But if you aren't using the pen the way I do, there are way better tablets out there.
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Axel_ said:
If I where you I would, undoubtedly pick an Asus Transformer tablet. It's a laptop when you want it to be (kinda) and a tablet when you decide to read, browse some or anything but typing really. You get a huge battery when linked (something like 12h), standard USB ports and a trackpad that is in my opinion superior to the touchscreen when writing. And the build quality is just amazing, at least compared to this Note 10.1.
Font get me wrong, as an engineering student I love my note and I wouldn't trade it for any other tablet without a digitizer. But if you aren't using the pen the way I do, there are way better tablets out there.
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Thanks for the advice. I actually had the tf700 some time back. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the slow io issues. My wife's almost two tear old galaxy tab loaded everything faster! My solution to that is a flip cover and add on keyboard with track pad. Of course,battery life won't be nearly as good.
Kumabjorn said:
Is it possible to make handwritten notes in Kindle e-books?
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Unfortunately not yet.
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Sher The Love said:
Thanks for the advice. I actually had the tf700 some time back. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the slow io issues. My wife's almost two tear old galaxy tab loaded everything faster! My solution to that is a flip cover and add on keyboard with track pad. Of course,battery life won't be nearly as good.
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I had the TF201 for about a month with the keyboard and I really tried to like it but the keyboard was too cramped and didn't balance the tablet's weight well. I did enjoy the 3 day battery life out of it. I usually get two sometimes 3 on my Note without any external keyboard battery.
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Sher The Love said:
Thanks for the advice. I actually had the tf700 some time back. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the slow io issues. My wife's almost two tear old galaxy tab loaded everything faster! My solution to that is a flip cover and add on keyboard with track pad. Of course,battery life won't be nearly as good.
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From what I've heard the new transformer won't have these issues at all and just looking at the hardware it seems pretty promising. I have not seen nor tested one on real life so I don't know how good it is. But before buying another one, I should give it a try and browse for some tests because I think it's really good.
All these androids apart though, have you considered the new Microsoft surface? A decent MS Office is something I would really value. And the pro version even got a stylus with the same technology the Note has!
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Well, I am studying chemistry and biology, but maybe youll find my feedback useful.
I purchased the note 10.1 specifically for taking notes during lectures, as didnt want keep carrying tons of notebooks with me. Plus, our lecturers usually put the PDF file of their lectures in the website, so I can download them before the lecture and during lecture add some useful information and comments to it. During lectures I can eqully well draw schemes, diagrams, graphs, reactions and just write the general stuff. Tiny button at the side of S-pen can be customised to change eg, colour of writing by clicking it, which makes it really perfect when you need to distinguish between lots of different type of information.
When buying I was a bit confused, I didnt know if the writing would be good enough for fast note taking, but after a while I was completely happy with the accuracy and speed of the writing with the S-pen. I almost dont use typing, as handwriting (mechanical movement of the hand) actually helps to memorise information, and thats what you need during studies.
I actually think that this tablet is the most useful tool I bought in recent years, and truly, it has no competitors in making notes.
Hey folks. i did a whole lot of research on buying this.
Considering that it is quite expensive, and the facts below:
1) i dont have a laptop beyond work laptop
2) i do have a desktop pc
I was thinking whether it is worthwhile getting this and it all comes down to how good its handwriting function is as it is the only thing making it worthwhile for me.
I read reviews etc. I tried one at a shop (though they dont keep the s pen on the device to avoid help, therefore my play time was rather limited, and it was on 10.1 inch version).
I wanted to ask those that use this for notes e.g. lecture notes, or business meetings; how fast can you actually write on this thing?
Our natural handwriting is for sure faster, however i wanted to have a realistic picture on the device's ability to be used for such purposes. I assume that its a matter of getting used to it? Is there a way to adjust/reduce latency?
Other than that, from current long stand owners, any advice regarding buying or not?
Personally I had purchased the tablet not only to serve as my primary media consumption device but also as a note taking device for my business meetings. Having tried a gamut of note taking applications and settling on one (LectureNotes) I'd say that you need not worry about the lack of performance with regard to natural handwriting note taking. You will surely find an application that will suit your needs (it is quite possible that the S-Note app that is built in will work perfectly for you as well).
I recall seeing that you asked about the potential lag during pen input when note taking. For note taking applications where you're writing directly onto a virtual piece of paper the input is practically instantaneous. If there's any lag it is not so much that it would be distracting.
The tablet also allows text input into text fields using handwriting as an alternative to keyboard use. This function works fairly well but here because it is doing OCR of your handwriting input will lag a little and you'll undoubtedly have errors (the frequency of which is a function of your handwriting legibility).
thanks for the quick reply. I think you have helped me!
Basically i do not care so much about the OCR speed, as much as i care about the effectiveness of this device as a replacement of pen and paper. This is what i will be trying to do. Getting the 12.2 will essentially be almost equivalent as an A4 paper. If i am happy about the handwriting capture speed and effectiveness it will mean that i will be digitizing my handwritten notes, which will enable better organisation etc. Tonite may be the night i press BUY ..
Thanks for your help. If you have more feedback, i will gladly take it!
Yes you'll definitely like it for this. Most note taking apps allow export to PDF as well so you can save your notes for use elsewhere. This comes in very handy!
I have used my note to replace paper notes. I'm a college student and take lots of notes, this device allows me to take my notes as fast as I do on paper. With the added benefit of changing colors, highlighting, etc.
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In terms of handwriting on a notetaking app, workst excellent. It does take some getting used to because you're not encourntering the same resistance as you do on a physical piece of paper. There's virtually no lag. (A few milliseconds, but that's the limitations of technology. You probably won't notice it if you're not used to noticing it.)
The OCR isn't infallable. I've had a friend who's a doctor try to use the direct handwriting input in my calendar, the result was a language I'm fairly sure nobody on this planet has ever heard of. (I'm still not sure what it is I'm supposed to do tomorrow... :laugh: )
I should mention I'm used to working with Wacom pens as I'm a long-time Intuos user (In Photoshop) and I own a Note 3.
I've also bought a Wacom Bamboo Feel for Note, because to me the Spen feels too small for lengthy use. (It's fine on my Note 3, but not on 12.2"). The plastic one is nice and light, but the carbon one feels really awesome. Too bad it's another 50 quid over the plastic one...
Great question and answers. I am also looking at this tablet primarily as a note taking tool for Graduate school but I'm torn between getting the 10in or 12in. Does anyone here have experience with both of these sizes when it comes to taking lecture notes?
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LonelyTV said:
Great question and answers. I am also looking at this tablet primarily as a note taking tool for Graduate school but I'm torn between getting the 10in or 12in. Does anyone here have experience with both of these sizes when it comes to taking lecture notes?
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Yes. Personally I prefer the 12.2" because it's almost the exact size of an A4 paper. So no need to adapt to a smaller size. To me, on my 10.1" tablet, I kept running out of screen in the middle of my writing. Not to mention it was a little uncomfortable because your hand floats in mid air when writing anywhere but the middle of the screen. The 12.2" has almost 50% more screen.
I currently have the 10.1 2014 edition and while I like it, I have a few frustrations.
1. pdf annotations take forever. Currently I've tried adobe reader, ezpdf, snote, and am finally going to try kindle since I heard it's very smooth though annotating on it leaves much to be desired.
2. If I sold my current 10.1 and upgrade to 12.2 it'd only be about an extra $150.
3. The extra space would be nice, since I find myself constantly pinching and zooming.
4. Some of the 'pro' features would be nice too (though I've heard it can be had on the 10.1 as well)
5. Thinking of selling my MacBook Air in favor for a 27" inch iMac for home use and the 12.2 Note pro for while I'm on the go.
I take a lot of hand written note in class, and while I'm not convinced yet I can ditch the paper and pen--I'm hopeful.
Any thoughts?
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I currently have the 10.1 2014 edition and while I like it, I have a few frustrations.
1. pdf annotations take forever. Currently I've tried adobe reader, ezpdf, snote, and am finally going to try kindle since I heard it's very smooth though annotating on it leaves much to be desired.
2. If I sold my current 10.1 and upgrade to 12.2 it'd only be about an extra $150.
3. The extra space would be nice, since I find myself constantly pinching and zooming.
4. Some of the 'pro' features would be nice too (though I've heard it can be had on the 10.1 as well)
5. Thinking of selling my MacBook Air in favor for a 27" inch iMac for home use and the 12.2 Note pro for while I'm on the go.
I take a lot of hand written note in class, and while I'm not convinced yet I can ditch the paper and pen--I'm hopeful.
Any thoughts?
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its pretty dead around here bud, Ijust got mine, wifi version, I had to root it clean it out and swap launchers to use it. I will say that it runs much better, however there are still bugs.. I press the home screen and I end up in the app box. I find a lot of apps look funky and do not run well. I dont really like the ipad due to it's limitations, but I'm thinking of sending this thing back and nabbing an ipad for travel.
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its pretty dead around here bud, Ijust got mine, wifi version, I had to root it clean it out and swap launchers to use it. I will say that it runs much better, however there are still bugs..
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Most of those issues are directly related to the fact it's the WiFi version. The LTE edition has a lot less issues. (My main argument for never buying a device with an Exynos. Snapdragon is simply more stable.)
I press the home screen and I end up in the app box..
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Try another launcher. That or perhaps you did something in Xposed.
simply dave said:
I currently have the 10.1 2014 edition and while I like it, I have a few frustrations.
1. pdf annotations take forever. Currently I've tried adobe reader, ezpdf, snote, and am finally going to try kindle since I heard it's very smooth though annotating on it leaves much to be desired.
2. If I sold my current 10.1 and upgrade to 12.2 it'd only be about an extra $150.
3. The extra space would be nice, since I find myself constantly pinching and zooming.
4. Some of the 'pro' features would be nice too (though I've heard it can be had on the 10.1 as well)
5. Thinking of selling my MacBook Air in favor for a 27" inch iMac for home use and the 12.2 Note pro for while I'm on the go.
I take a lot of hand written note in class, and while I'm not convinced yet I can ditch the paper and pen--I'm hopeful.
Any thoughts?
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I was in this exact situation. Even the amount cost wise to upgrade was the same for me. The extra space for what I do (math and biochem) was welcomed and probably my main deciding factor. It made a big difference for what I use the device for. I use ezpdf for my textbooks with no issue. I use dropsync to have them keep my home and work computers in line with my tablet work, reading, whatever I worked on. The pdfs size wise are hundreds to thousands of pages, full color, science textbooks. I use it for typing stuff and editing some of my website stuff as well. Occasionally digital painting when I get the craving. Otherwise comics or emulators for fun. I have replaced paper and pen almost completely, but you really want an aftermarket pen for it. If you work on it for any lengthy period of time that little dinky pen it comes with just doesn't cut it. It really depends what you are planning to do with it.
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Most of those issues are directly related to the fact it's the WiFi version. The LTE edition has a lot less issues. (My main argument for never buying a device with an Exynos. Snapdragon is simply more stable.)
Try another launcher. That or perhaps you did something in Xposed.
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I've never had this issue with any Exynos device, this one or my previous note 10.1 or phones. Going on 5ish years now. I've had zero stability issues or speed issues. I haven't had anyone complain about these things really in my thread. Never heard of this from friends with the devices either.
I always find if there's a problem it's touchwiz or some samsung crap at fault.
I'll give ezpdf another shot. I turned me off on it was I couldn't readily find the eraser?
I'm also taking chemistry and in the medical field so I'm hoping this note could last me well into my time in Grad school.
Sometimes it's challenging to find a workflow that works best for you. Things get harder if documents are complicated and therfore don't convert well or use a lot of resources when loaded.
For PDF annotation I'm now using Papyrus, importing into that application to note take over the PDF prior to exporting back out to PDF. Works ok for me but YMMV.
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Sometimes it's challenging to find a workflow that works best for you. Things get harder if documents are complicated and therfore don't convert well or use a lot of resources when loaded.
For PDF annotation I'm now using Papyrus, importing into that application to note take over the PDF prior to exporting back out to PDF. Works ok for me but YMMV.
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Did you opt to purchase key features like the ability to type and use the highlighter etc?
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1. pdf annotations take forever. Currently I've tried adobe reader, ezpdf, snote, and am finally going to try kindle since I heard it's very smooth though annotating on it leaves much to be desired.
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can't comment on this since i don't annotate directly on pdfs... i open another window and take notes using papyrus while viewing the pdf split screen style.
2. If I sold my current 10.1 and upgrade to 12.2 it'd only be about an extra $150.
3. The extra space would be nice, since I find myself constantly pinching and zooming.
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the space is very nice. its a big upgrade for a little amount of money. this would be the deciding factor for me.
4. Some of the 'pro' features would be nice too (though I've heard it can be had on the 10.1 as well)
5. Thinking of selling my MacBook Air in favor for a 27" inch iMac for home use and the 12.2 Note pro for while I'm on the go.
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can't comment on number 4, but number 5 sounds like a pretty sweet tradeoff.
I take a lot of hand written note in class, and while I'm not convinced yet I can ditch the paper and pen--I'm hopeful.
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its only so-so for note-taking in my opinion. i write tiny and fast, and it doesn't quite keep up, or register that i've lifted the pen. i bought a bamboo feel stylus hoping that would make it a better experience, but no dice. so don't ditch the pen and paper just yet.
-lq
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Did you opt to purchase key features like the ability to type and use the highlighter etc?
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Yes, I have unlocked all available features via in-app purchase. From the looks of it this includes the ability to import PDF. Sorry for not clarifying that.
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can't comment on this since i don't annotate directly on pdfs... i open another window and take notes using papyrus while viewing the pdf split screen style.
the space is very nice. its a big upgrade for a little amount of money. this would be the deciding factor for me.
can't comment on number 4, but number 5 sounds like a pretty sweet tradeoff.
its only so-so for note-taking in my opinion. i write tiny and fast, and it doesn't quite keep up, or register that i've lifted the pen. i bought a bamboo feel stylus hoping that would make it a better experience, but no dice. so don't ditch the pen and paper just yet.
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One thing that made me finalize my decision was just how little space I have writing when I'm in split-screen mode. Reading PDF on one side and taking notes on Papyrus on the other. A little cumbersome. I'mma pull the trigger and upgrade. Sell my tricked out MBA and get the iMac at home. I can't get over how nice the iMacs are. That screen is gorgeous.
I hope I say the same about the 12.2.
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One thing that made me finalize my decision was just how little space I have writing when I'm in split-screen mode. Reading PDF on one side and taking notes on Papyrus on the other. A little cumbersome. I'mma pull the trigger and upgrade. Sell my tricked out MBA and get the iMac at home. I can't get over how nice the iMacs are. That screen is gorgeous.
I hope I say the same about the 12.2.
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I got the Note 10.1 2014 the day it came out. I use it for work meetings and take a fair amount of notes. I sold my 10.1 2014 and got the 12.2 about 2 months ago. The 12.2 is much better for taking notes. It is more like the size of a real note pad. The newer version of touchwiz seems lighter than on the 2014 as well. Based on what you have asked the 12.2 should be a better fit.
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Most of those issues are directly related to the fact it's the WiFi version. The LTE edition has a lot less issues. (My main argument for never buying a device with an Exynos. Snapdragon is simply more stable.)
Try another launcher. That or perhaps you did something in Xposed.
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I have the wifi version (Exynos) and use Apex launcher. I use it 1-2 hours every night and can't remember it ever having "issues" other than maybe a little lag after running for a week or two without a reboot. A reboot and I'm good for another week or so. Although there is some good argument for the snapdragon version for better developer support I think that is the only reason. I have seen nothing so that leads me to believe the snapdragon version would be faster or more stable.
Just finally got the Note 12.2 Yesterday. Love it going to start using it in class today. One feature I really miss is the fast charging from Snapdragon devices but other than that nothing much. Lol my second exynos device, my note 2 was my first. Not many issues so far.
I was worried at first but it's not to laggy. It's really TouchWiz ran nova for a bit and it flew and I'm on stock so the deflated roms will be even better.
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simply dave said:
I'll give ezpdf another shot. I turned me off on it was I couldn't readily find the eraser?
I'm also taking chemistry and in the medical field so I'm hoping this note could last me well into my time in Grad school.
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You could be fine then.
With this and gesture shortcuts I fly around to the things I need back and forth no issue. I tutor premeds and I study molecular virology and am doing the Grad School gig and I have no issue. The screen space upgrade for equations and such is what sold me. That was the only improvement from the 10.1 I needed once I used it for a few days I was pretty sure I could make it work. It doesn't seem that much larger but it made a world of difference. I can't do the whole continue my equation onto a second line even with proper annotation thing it drives me nuts.
So far I have done it. I don't do split screen, easy pdf makes a copy of my pdf so I leave the original pristine then I annotate into that, dropbox deals with all of it. If I use something to take note taking apps I prefer lecture notes over papyrus. Most the time I keep lecture notes open and the book open, then use LAS https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abhi.lastappswitcher&hl=en, which will switch back to your last app like a tv romote can, makes switching between almost instant. Nice and smooth work without much waiting.
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naruto.ninjakid said:
Just finally got the Note 12.2 Yesterday. Love it going to start using it in class today. One feature I really miss is the fast charging from Snapdragon devices but other than that nothing much. Lol my second exynos device, my note 2 was my first. Not many issues so far.
I was worried at first but it's not to laggy. It's really TouchWiz ran nova for a bit and it flew and I'm on stock so the deflated roms will be even better.
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If you're on wifi the sm-p900 go grabbed my debloated one. You'll be happy, mem startup drops from around 2 to around 1gbs, just from all the bloat crap they have.
Hello guys,
First of all I'm sorry if my grammar or general "english use" sucks but be patient, it's not my mother language.
I would like to ask some help taking a decision.
Let me introduce my needs first:
I'm on the market to replace my old and trusty iPad mini (i know, i know Apple's devices bring horrible nightmares to all XDA users). I'd want a compact tablet (8" to 8.4 screen) that can easily slide in my bag and follow me everywhere, from university lectures to various trips. One of the main function I'd want to improve on is handwritten notes: as it is on my iPad i can't do it and I end up simply downloading professor's slides to read them easier but still writing up to 3000 pages of notes per year, and you know that paper loves to get lost or hide when you need it. Combining it with the constant need of raw power for games i'm left with very few choices, none of them 100% suited for me (unless Samsung decides to include his majesty the S-pen on the Tab S 8.4).
So, coming back to what i'm willing to ask to you, Nvidia Shield Tablet owners: would you reccomend this tablet for hand written notes? And by that i mean: writing on this tablet is almost as fast and comfortable as writing on the good old paper with an ink pen?
If not, what else would you buy, considering that the ability to run smoothly something like Asphalt 8 it's a must have?
Thank you very much in advance.
Matteo
I bought this tablet to replace a Galaxy Note 10.1
I use the Shield Tablet with the MyScript Smart Note app.
Comparing this to Galaxy Note 10.1 + LectureNotes app (My fav at the time of ownership), it's pretty close, but not quite as good.
Writing is accurate enough for me, but not quite as good as the note.
And the smaller screen makes it a little harder to write as well (Worth it for the smaller size to carry around though).
Compared to paper, I think the convenience is way better.
The only real downside there is the lack of friction on the 'paper'.
Even with an invisishield screen protector, the tablet writes a lot smoother than a piece of paper. This is by far the biggest downside in my opinion, but it's easy enough to get used to.
Great Tablet for everything not just writing
DemiosNC said:
Hello guys,
First of all I'm sorry if my grammar or general "english use" sucks but be patient, it's not my mother language.
I would like to ask some help taking a decision.
Let me introduce my needs first:
I'm on the market to replace my old and trusty iPad mini (i know, i know Apple's devices bring horrible nightmares to all XDA users). I'd want a compact tablet (8" to 8.4 screen) that can easily slide in my bag and follow me everywhere, from university lectures to various trips. One of the main function I'd want to improve on is handwritten notes: as it is on my iPad i can't do it and I end up simply downloading professor's slides to read them easier but still writing up to 3000 pages of notes per year, and you know that paper loves to get lost or hide when you need it. Combining it with the constant need of raw power for games i'm left with very few choices, none of them 100% suited for me (unless Samsung decides to include his majesty the S-pen on the Tab S 8.4).
So, coming back to what i'm willing to ask to you, Nvidia Shield Tablet owners: would you reccomend this tablet for hand written notes? And by that i mean: writing on this tablet is almost as fast and comfortable as writing on the good old paper with an ink pen?
If not, what else would you buy, considering that the ability to run smoothly something like Asphalt 8 it's a must have?
Thank you very much in advance.
Matteo
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First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the year.
I own a LG G Pad 8.3 and a Nvidia shield tablet (NST). The NST is recently purchased so I cannot say its perfect yet when it comes to writing. In my opinion the option of having palm rejection in the NST is delightful which makes writing comfortable. I am currently using Smart note as well but I also use WPS Office (kingsoft Office)--(with the stylus beta app) for handwriting and converting into text if I need something compatible with Microsoft word. The stylus is slippery on the NST I had better control with the LG since I had a screen protector and was using the joint sylus pro which I think is amazing for writing. ( I am actually thinking of adding a screen protector just to use the joint stylus pro with the NST because rumor has it it scratches the screen). The hand recognition in the NST is really good and I think good apps from the play store will give you the experience you are looking for.
I hope this helps, if you have questions I am happy to assist.
sorry if the writing is messy but I got to go for now.
Good luck
FYI I am also in UNI and I do a lot of writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
OneNote. Just use OneNote. With this tablet, it is by far, par.
Edit: OneNote w/ IFTTT. I'm getting some stuff DONE!
Thank you everyone for the support, now for each answer:
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I bought this tablet to replace a Galaxy Note 10.1 [...] is by far the biggest downside in my opinion, but it's easy enough to get used to.
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So, as I was thinking, the Note family from Samsung is still the best for notes in your experience? Frankly, I'm not a kid anymore (unfortunately) so if I have to choose beetwen "usefulness" and games I have to pick the first to justify the money spent...
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First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the [...] writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
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The G-Pad was one of my first thoughts having a G3 wich I'm loving (almost), but I'm not sure it is an improvement in practicality over the iPad.
I've seen that wierd stylus and I thought it was insanely expensive, but now I see it's only 30$...Worth it?
Being an automotive engineering student, my notes are all about graphs, schemes and sketches so I need accuracy and predictibility in how the tablet translates my movements as well as a reliable software that ignores palm and wrist inputs on the screen (that's my biggest complain on the iPad).
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OneNote. Just use OneNote. With this tablet, it is by far, par.
Edit: OneNote w/ IFTTT. I'm getting some stuff DONE!
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OneNote relies on the NST stylus recognition or it has a built-in feature?
Side note: the Nexus 9....looks goood another contender? xD
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Thank you everyone for the support, now for each answer:
So, as I was thinking, the Note family from Samsung is still the best for notes in your experience? Frankly, Im not a kid anymore (unfortunately) so if I have to choose beetwen "usefulness" and games I have to pick the first to justify the money spent.
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If I was looking for a serious note taking piece of hardware... Yeah, I'd probably go with a note. I would also probably invest in a separate active stylus to use with it. The Note 10.1(2012) came with a pretty cheap feeling one. Light hollow plastic, not fun to use.
What you lose by going that route is a good AOSP-like experience. I don't like Samsung S touch wiz ui at all. And you can flash an aosp rom on it, but the stylus loses some features.
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If I was looking for a serious note taking piece of hardware... Yeah, I'd probably go with a note. I would also probably invest in a separate active stylus to use with it. The Note 10.1(2012) came with a pretty cheap feeling one. Light hollow plastic, not fun to use.
What you lose by going that route is a good AOSP-like experience. I don't like Samsung S touch wiz ui at all. And you can flash an aosp rom on it, but the stylus loses some features.
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I don't have the exact english phrase to say that but I'll translate litterally: seems like you're reading my toughts...
I spent the last 4 years of my life as an Apple fan boy because i was thinking that android was only Samsung...The touchwiz is insanely overloaded so that is my biggest concern about following the "samsung route"...
Anyways, today I took a look at the tab s 8.4 in first person and I have to admit that the display is amazing...Colors are cartoonish but so appealing I can't ignore it...
Unfortunately I'm not able to find a store with an NST to try here in Italy...
I was playing today with the note pro from Samsung and I must say that it is for note taking way better then the nVidia Shield Tablet I own myself although I hate the touch wiz layer. Nevertheless I use one note now on my NST for note taking.
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Congrats
Moeali8 said:
First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the year.
I own a LG G Pad 8.3 and a Nvidia shield tablet (NST). The NST is recently purchased so I cannot say its perfect yet when it comes to writing. In my opinion the option of having palm rejection in the NST is delightful which makes writing comfortable. I am currently using Smart note as well but I also use WPS Office (kingsoft Office)--(with the stylus beta app) for handwriting and converting into text if I need something compatible with Microsoft word. The stylus is slippery on the NST I had better control with the LG since I had a screen protector and was using the joint sylus pro which I think is amazing for writing. ( I am actually thinking of adding a screen protector just to use the joint stylus pro with the NST because rumor has it it scratches the screen). The hand recognition in the NST is really good and I think good apps from the play store will give you the experience you are looking for.
I hope this helps, if you have questions I am happy to assist.
sorry if the writing is messy but I got to go for now.
Good luck
FYI I am also in UNI and I do a lot of writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
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First congrats on the Tab S 8.4 and you are right amazing screen, really vivid and nice colors I've always liked Samsung's screens; unfortunately it stops at their screens . But why didnt you take a note if you wanted the S-pen and S-notes. Any way I hope it works out for you. Some great apps are Smart notes which has good hand recognition and lecture notes where I thing would help you with your graphing.
Regrading the LG G Pad 8.3 I'm still using it for standard media consumption like reading and browsing the net while my NST is mainly for games and the occasional web surf if its in my hands. And I'm still using the LG for writing my notes via Kingsoft office and stylus beta has my input method (best hand to text app i've used)
Anyways good luck.