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watch who his guy hack android on iPhone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yO2KQHkt4A&feature=player_embedded

Yeah I got a text from my iPhone friend bragging about it but I told him to get 2.1 then brag.
It would be cool to have iPhone on G1 but I don't see that coming at all.
English plz?

CrazyEye said:
Yeah I got a text from my iPhone friend bragging but I told him to get 2.1 then brag.
It would be cool to have iPhone on G1 but I don't see that coming at all.
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Or to get that running as fast as it is on the G1. Sad that it runs slower...

It's amusing, but...
This isn't Development. It would be more fitting in the General section. Sorry to be a buzz-kill, but this kind of stuff usually gets people flamed.
(for the record, iPhone can suck it.)

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Or to get that running as fast as it is on the G1. Sad that it runs slower...
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I could see the iPhone getting faster on Android once more devs look at it and piece it together. It has to be possible to port iPhone to Android to bad I have no development skills or I would give it a go.
Christopher3712 said:
This isn't Development. It would be more fitting in the General section. Sorry to be a buzz-kill, but this kind of stuff usually gets people flamed.
(for the record, iPhone can suck it.)
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Yeah I was going to flame him originally but so many people post in the wrong section I just give up and let a mod take care of it >.<
I second the Suck it to iPhone. It would be just something to have to make iPhone fan boys stfu.

Christopher3712 said:
This isn't Development. It would be more fitting in the General section. Sorry to be a buzz-kill, but this kind of stuff usually gets people flamed.
(for the record, iPhone can suck it.)
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If you believe something is in the wrong section, is it not easier to just ignore the post? Or must you, inform people they're posting in the "wrong" section? What's the big deal. Read what's written, if it holds no interest for you, keep it movin. If you find it interesting, and you "believe" it's in the wrong section, keep it movin. What's hard about that? Ur the type to report **** is in the wrong sections as you come across stuff aren't you? People like you are Computer Commandos. Leave the Moddin 2 da MODS.
Thanks. Take Care.

Im sorry but android is far better then iphone os and this is coming from a person that paid about $4000 in mac stuff

fox12345 said:
watch who his guy hack android on iPhone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yO2KQHkt4A&feature=player_embedded
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That's kinda tight right there.

haha
I love how people say the iphone sucks yet really what can android do that iphone can't they can Run our os cydia is the best thing ever better battery huge memory way more reliable awsome music player awsome gaming better keyboard haha list goes on and on

This is not G1 nor Development related (not directly as it's just news) so I moved it to the general android forum.

xftox said:
I love how people say the iphone sucks yet really what can android do that iphone can't
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Multi task!

Haha it actually can with an aop called multi flow and 4.0 will have it

xftox said:
I love how people say the iphone sucks yet really what can android do that iphone can't they can Run our os cydia is the best thing ever better battery huge memory way more reliable awsome music player awsome gaming better keyboard haha list goes on and on
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Cydia: We don't need another Market when ours doesn't reject things.
Battery- Really? Have you EVER used a Nexus?
Memory- That is, until you fill it up
Music Player- No doubt, Android is getting better ones but the iPhone's is still top notch
Gaming- That's what happens when you're a year ahead of the competition, but yes, I feel it has better games (Even if I don't play any)
Batter Keyboard- This is subjective, the ONLY thing I feel it has Android beaten in is responsiveness (And this is due to the touchscreen, not the actual keyboard)

If not cydia rock millions of free apps once hacked u can't fill up the memory my wife a 16 gig and hsnt filled up half her memory with all the movies music and apps the keyboard is more responsive millions of themes everything an android can do so can iphone I wish there a way to flash roms on an iphone

xftox said:
If not cydia rock millions of free apps once hacked u can't fill up the memory my wife a 16 gig and hsnt filled up half her memory with all the movies music and apps the keyboard is more responsive millions of themes everything an android can do so can iphone I wish there a way to flash roms on an iphone
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I don't see why having the phone hacked or not gives more memory, it was 16gb before and after. Well, when someone has 1000's of songs, the 16gb fills up rather quickly, so just because she has over half left doesn't mean everyone does.
You tend to have more things when you are tending to a larger user base, so having millions of themes is nice, but you're only ever going to use one at a time.
I still don't see why cydia and rock are being brought into this, they're a market for things that were/will be rejected from the App store the Android Market does NOT suffer from this (Except in things like pornography or malicious/illegal items).

All I know is that this is good news for many and I hope development continues, I like the Iphone OS very much including android and winmo 7.

the day i get an iphone is the day it multitasks, has real keyboard, lets me watch porn when my girl is being stingy and selfish with her vagina, on top of it all... run an android os. sooo in the words of my good man :"iphone can suck iiiiiiiit"

xftox said:
If not cydia rock millions of free apps once hacked u can't fill up the memory my wife a 16 gig and hsnt filled up half her memory with all the movies music and apps the keyboard is more responsive millions of themes everything an android can do so can iphone I wish there a way to flash roms on an iphone
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Why are you defending that iCraP!!..................
Just playing but, why compare Iphone/touch to Android... Android will always come out on top.... and if you don't like Android why not get an IPhone...

xftox said:
I love how people say the iphone sucks yet really what can android do that iphone can't they can Run our os cydia is the best thing ever better battery huge memory way more reliable awsome music player awsome gaming better keyboard haha list goes on and on
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I agree .I have a Touch HD and an Iphone 3GS both are good phones being made better by the developers on here and people over at Devteam. It seems a little immature to be slagging one off against another

xftox said:
I love how people say the iphone sucks yet really what can android do that iphone can't they can Run our os cydia is the best thing ever better battery huge memory way more reliable awsome music player awsome gaming better keyboard haha list goes on and on
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If you want a phone that can play music, videos, and games, I'll grant than an iPhone is your best bet.
If you want a phone with a large high-res screen, hardware keyboard, expandable storage, TRUE multi-tasking, as well as an impressive bag of tricks (tethering, WiFiRouter, etc.) that can be had without voiding your warrantee, the iPhone would certainly not fit the bill.
Just saying that there are plenty of things an iPhone cannot do, even with jailbreaking. The day some mad dev manages to port iPhone OS to an HTC keyboard phone, I will gladly eat my words. Until then, enjoy your iPhone for what it is, a Portable Media Player. The rest of us will keep happily haxing away on our Mini Computers.

Does anyone else think that MT4G should of been tha natural succesor of the N1?

...or is it just me?

It would have been a better fit. The only thing missing is NFC and this phone would've really shined with some vanilla flavor.
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my feelings exactly.

Yeah, plus the battery life with the N1 and this, have no difference so yeah.
This is one of the top high end Android phone in the US right now and I'm feeling good about it.

oh yea!
i'm gonna be off topic with this comment,but imagine this scenario:
Monday morning,after a busy weekend with your loved ones,cuz of the holydays,you weak up to the sound of your beautifull,new,latest most fullfing android device on the market (my opinion at least, don't even make me start about NS,huuuumunnnnguusss disspointment). Your beloved phone,wich at times could be compared with a second or third girlfriend cuz of the amount of time an android/android based device fanatic actually spends on it,and maintains it, not only by himself,but by an unbelivebly well structured comunity...
Ok,moving on to the point of this scenario,so your MT4G is waking u up,cuz you gotta go to work,right?
Wouldn't it be nice if the first thing u see would be the MT4G in an apple like dock (just gotta admit they make beautifull designs for theyr devices), in a dock like mode in wich you have all the important info u need to start the day,like time,day,temperature,latest news and various updates, and THAN a MENU that gives u,from your bed ,barrely waking up, acces to the most imprtant ,if not all the devices in your home,through whatever wirelles way possible, alowing u to,bassically,customize your day,the same way you know you love to customize your phone...
Now thats where I hope GOOGLE and ANDROID are going, and at the same time beeing opened source and not invade ones privacy ...sorry google,only love for you,but had to say that!
That would be a great way to start your new year. You guys agree?

dani26286 said:
...or is it just me?
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Nope, I completely agree with you and have thought this since day 1. HTC had the g1 and n1 so I was curious why Samsung got the ns.

Would have been nice if HTC would have thrown a SAMOLED2 in the phone, but as someone that moved from a N1 to the MT4G, this phone has been a great successor.
As for the NFC, it would have been nice, but to be honest, I don't see it taking off in the very near future in the US. And by the time it does, we'll probably have a very good replacement from T-Mobile.

dani26286 said:
oh yea!
i'm gonna be off topic with this comment,but imagine this scenario:
Monday morning,after a busy weekend with your loved ones,cuz of the holydays,you weak up to the sound of your beautifull,new,latest most fullfing android device on the market (my opinion at least, don't even make me start about NS,huuuumunnnnguusss disspointment). Your beloved phone,wich at times could be compared with a second or third girlfriend cuz of the amount of time an android/android based device fanatic actually spends on it,and maintains it, not only by himself,but by an unbelivebly well structured comunity...
Ok,moving on to the point of this scenario,so your MT4G is waking u up,cuz you gotta go to work,right?
Wouldn't it be nice if the first thing u see would be the MT4G in an apple like dock (just gotta admit they make beautifull designs for theyr devices), in a dock like mode in wich you have all the important info u need to start the day,like time,day,temperature,latest news and various updates, and THAN a MENU that gives u,from your bed ,barrely waking up, acces to the most imprtant ,if not all the devices in your home,through whatever wirelles way possible, alowing u to,bassically,customize your day,the same way you know you love to customize your phone...
Now thats where I hope GOOGLE and ANDROID are going, and at the same time beeing opened source and not invade ones privacy ...sorry google,only love for you,but had to say that!
That would be a great way to start your new year. You guys agree?
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LOL, I found the first paragraph very ammusing, haha..
I think the reason it wasn't is because TMO wanted to market this phone as theirs because of the video chat capability... and they wanted the consumers to associate a good phone with their name, where as the N1 was googles baby, and while you could look at it and say it was an amazing phone, you didni't really give anymore credibililty to TMO. This way, tmobile looks good to consumers. Looking at things now.... the nexus S blows, but I don't really blame TMO for that, I can blame google or Samsuck for really dropping the ball there...so smart move on TMO part, IMO

Little known fact. The MyTouch3G was going to be known as the Google Ion, and was going to be the precursor to the Nexus Line.
I think the MyTouchHD would of been a perfect phone for the second generation Nexus Line. How ever, they did just over clock the phone to 1.2Ghrz and the quadrant scores look AMAZING.
I think they undercooked this phone. It's so close to being perfect but Samsung doesn't know the difference between sh!t and Shinola

neidlinger said:
Little known fact. The MyTouch3G was going to be known as the Google Ion, and was going to be the precursor to the Nexus Line.
I think the MyTouchHD would of been a perfect phone for the second generation Nexus Line. How ever, they did just over clock the phone to 1.2Ghrz and the quadrant scores look AMAZING.
I think they undercooked this phone. It's so close to being perfect but Samsung doesn't know the difference between sh!t and Shinola
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A Lot Ppl would not know that! That's like explaining something in Russian to a Jew. LoL..
The Mytouch 3G was used heavy as a dev device before the N1 came out. HTC has always been the device not by choice but for not having something else avail. The N1 was basically a revamped version of the Touch and Other Ideas that were on the Drawing Table.
The Nexus S by Samsung is by far hands down the best addition to the Nexus Line. I am also very glad that this is number two in the Line and no other garbage took its place.
Always Remember: The Nexus Line is Google's way of being open with their dev devices, hence "Pure Google". All other devices are literally bastard children that carry a logo that says "with Google" to represent their honorary build.
Sent From a Crop Circle... with a Nexus S

well it's a part of the original "mytouch" line phones ... it's a mt4g not a nexus touch4g. just saying, cause this phone is a successor of the mytouch3g. like how the g2 is for the g1. when the htc hero came out they were calling it a g2, but it wasn't the successor. plus this kills the nexus in so many ways! mytouch has so much custom UI put into it, talking about the slide & this, whereas nexus is just all straight android vanilla without all the bloatware. look at the nexus s, that's pretty much the successor since I heard they won't come out with a nexus 2. but all this is just IMO
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...or is it just me?
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neidlinger said:
Little known fact. The MyTouch3G was going to be known as the Google Ion, and was going to be the precursor to the Nexus Line.
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No it wasn't. The Google Ion was the developer version of the HTC Magic which came out at least a year before the N1. Never seen any reference to ION being relaunched at the MT3G.

The magic and the mytouch are the same phone. The magic shipped with 288mb ram, the mytouch, until February 2010, shipped with 192mb. Aside from the color, I believe there is no difference between the ion and the magic. Its just that the ion was never on sale to the public, unless I'm mistaken.

PlankLongBeard said:
A Lot Ppl would not know that! That's like explaining something in Russian to a Jew. LoL..
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I guess sarcasm doesn't fit into your vocabulary?

ScottC said:
No it wasn't. The Google Ion was the developer version of the HTC Magic which came out at least a year before the N1. Never seen any reference to ION being relaunched at the MT3G.
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There are two different MyTouch3G phones. The PV32A and the PV32B, The "A" variant is a Google Issued phone. That is the dev phone.

I got the MT4G on release date and I'm still in awe at how well built, and feature packed this device is. If they released this with AOSP and called it the Nexus Two no one would be disappointed. I can't believe that T-Mobile of all carriers released such a high end, future proofed device. Most devices are lacking in some area, but the MT4G isn't lacking at all. It has everything and more. I love this device so much, it's the first android handset I've owned where I haven't had any complaints with it.
There must be some political issues behind Google going to Samsung for the Nexus S and not HTC. HTC makes such better devices. You have the G2 and Desire HD which are industrial business looking devices, then you have the MT4G with a completely different design than anything else on the market and it appeals to almost all demographics. Whether you're a first time smartphone buyer or a seasoned Android veteran you will appreciate this device for what it can offer to you. I'm the latter and I have my MT4G hooked up with Gingerbread (complete with the NS screen off animation) and overclocked to 1.8Ghz. What more can you ask for?
The release of the Nexus S really changed my mind about Google and how they view the Nexus family. I don't think Google gives a **** about the average consumer so they don't include things like HD Video Recording, a Notification Light, FFC, Micro SD Card Slot for people with tons of music and videos etc. Instead they give you the bare bones and honestly, the only reassuring factor for the price is the idea of getting tons of Google updates first. That's all fine and dandy if the phone is priced right. $580 is simply too much for a smartphone that lacks so many features regardless of how you want to argue about it.
Right now the MT4G is the top android device on the market. Even when the first dual core devices come out I will still stick with my MT4G until something comes along that is the successor to it. The next smartphone that I make my daily driver will have to surpass the MT4G in every area; hardware, camera/video quality, screen, design etc.
I've been 100% happy with my purchase since day 1. This is the first time I can say this about any android device I've owned.

PlankLongBeard said:
A Lot Ppl would not know that! That's like explaining something in Russian to a Jew. LoL..
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The Russian Jews I went to school with would probably say "That's like trying to explain something to a person who uses extraneous LoL's" or more likely they'd avoid your presence entirely.
The rest of what you said made as much sense.
What would have helped is if you said "No, it wouldn't be the natural successor..." or "Yes, it would have been..." to start out with.
I sure would have preferred the MyTouch 4G as the new Google phone. It has all the extra pieces many phones don't have that a dev might want to test such as a FFC and 4G. Superior to the Nexus S, it has a memory card slot and working GPS (I assume the GPS on the Nexus S is as good as on any (other?) i9000 series phone).
The beautiful (and tough) screen on the Nexus S might be nice, but it doesn't much matter to a developer testing something, n'cest pas?

Case and point for what its worth... I wanted the NS so bad when I heard about it (I had the G1> MyTouch Fender> then finally MT4G. I'm sorry but that NS is a pain in the **** to get when I can just drop by TMobile and pick this one up. F best buy for cell phones I like t mobile stores I pay them I go to them. Plus this phone runs tits rooted and oc'd @ 1.6-1.7 with no crashes at all ... I've had one crash @ 1.8 big woop. And I know for a fact I haven't been able to get this phone to stutter at all it does everything flawless and fast bottom line.
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neidlinger said:
There are two different MyTouch3G phones. The PV32A and the PV32B, The "A" variant is a Google Issued phone. That is the dev phone.
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The "A" variant is the HTC magic, released in the UK and in Canada with Rogers. For some reason t-mobile decided to go with the "B" for North America at launch. All Mytouch 3G phones built after February 2010 are A as well. Main difference is the amount of available ram.

excarnate said:
The Russian Jews I went to school with would probably say "That's like trying to explain something to a person who uses extraneous LoL's" or more likely they'd avoid your presence entirely.
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I know lots of Russians, lots of Jews, and several Russian Jews. I'm Jewish and 2/4 (both parents were 1/2) Russian myself.
I just wish everyone could speak English at a respectable high school level so I don't cringe when I read some of the posts around here. English as a second language has a free pass though; learning a second language is HARD.
Back on topic - I totally agree that it must have been political. HTC seems to be the Android leader so Samsung getting the NS came out of left field in my eyes. Not to mention the hardware being blatantly inferior to the MT4G, ie; HSPA+, additional RAM, SD slot. I still don't get that.
Also never understood why the US got the inferior 32B. The entire reason I rooted that thing in the first place was so I could overclock it to try and run Navi and Pandora at the same time. I should have bought a N1 in the first place.

Will android ever have another phone released that lives up to the hype like the G1

It seems ever since the first generation of android devices a multitude of phones have been overhyped and just havent delivered. The G1 was a pinnacle of android masterpiece even with its clunky form and poor build quality it was what android phones should be. It was updated when it could be and if not it was easy to update for devs. It didn't have some terrible skin on it, it felt solid enough, and it worked in every way necessary. I mean the nexus one was the same, it was just a good phone. Ever since things have just been over-hyped and generally not worth it. The original droid was pretty terrible by comparison to the original android phone and yet they publicized it to be something amazing because of the sleek look... dont think most of us care too much about the look of our phone or we'd all be like those iphone wielding tools. This same mediocrity has come into play over and over again straight up to the galaxy S series... what are the odds that garbage is ever really going to get updated without XDA as long as samsung has any say over it? That lag also left a bad taste in most peoples mouths and the fact that the sequel to the amazing nexus one is a glorified galaxy S with a front facing camera and flash is just like taking a dump on the nexus line. There have been a few decent devices along the way mostly from HTC but in all actuality the only enjoyable andoid experience I had post G1 was on an HD2. This is not an android bashing thread just a real question and dedz to the G1... Lost but not forgotten.

no there wont , ur live will be empty and sad from now on

Nah, I'm happy with my WP7 devices. Would just like to have a decent android device on the side and when I heard they were making another nexus I got excited.... then I saw the S

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no there wont , ur live will be empty and sad from now on
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lmao. Way to cheer up a person.

Lol why bother to cheer up an obvious troll post?

there was a bit of hype when the desire came out.i think the HD2 is to be honest and thats not suppose to be an android but its deffinently a fun phone to play with,its got eveyone hyped up on here most deffinently,its turning into the must have tweakable phone.It terms of native android devices,we shall have to see what this year brings

Not a troll post by any means. I beg you to give me another phone that lived up as well out of the box. The HD2 did but I dont think it was quite as hyped til XDA took hold of it.

z33dev33l said:
It seems ever since the first generation of android devices a multitude of phones have been overhyped and just havent delivered. The G1 was a pinnacle of android masterpiece even with its clunky form and poor build quality it was what android phones should be. It was updated when it could be and if not it was easy to update for devs. It didn't have some terrible skin on it, it felt solid enough, and it worked in every way necessary. I mean the nexus one was the same, it was just a good phone. Ever since things have just been over-hyped and generally not worth it. The original droid was pretty terrible by comparison to the original android phone and yet they publicized it to be something amazing because of the sleek look... dont think most of us care too much about the look of our phone or we'd all be like those iphone wielding tools. This same mediocrity has come into play over and over again straight up to the galaxy S series... what are the odds that garbage is ever really going to get updated without XDA as long as samsung has any say over it? That lag also left a bad taste in most peoples mouths and the fact that the sequel to the amazing nexus one is a glorified galaxy S with a front facing camera and flash is just like taking a dump on the nexus line. There have been a few decent devices along the way mostly from HTC but in all actuality the only enjoyable andoid experience I had post G1 was on an HD2. This is not an android bashing thread just a real question and dedz to the G1... Lost but not forgotten.
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You have a valid point, but just like the first iPhone, the G1 did have it's flaws, but it was a success because it was the only device for Android. As you rightly said, the Nexus One was the next major step, I'd consider the G2 to be an incrimental step up, but I think the next wave of devices to truly impress will be wielding dual core CPUs, because as of now we're just getting the same internals in different casings. As of now all the other specs have been sufficiently maxed-out (1GHz CPUs, 8mp cameras w/ flash, 576-768mb RAM), so I think an influx of DC Snapdragons and Tegra 2s will shake things up a bit.

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You have a valid point, but just like the first iPhone, the G1 did have it's flaws, but it was a success because it was the only device for Android. As you rightly said, the Nexus One was the next major step, I'd consider the G2 to be an incrimental step up, but I think the next wave of devices to truly impress will be wielding dual core CPUs, because as of now we're just getting the same internals in different casings. As of now all the other specs have been sufficiently maxed-out (1GHz CPUs, 8mp cameras w/ flash, 576-768mb RAM), so I think an influx of DC Snapdragons and Tegra 2s will shake things up a bit.
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I dont really think the processors going to make that huge a difference. These phones still have not released anything new and amazing like they did then... They have yet to make another keyboard that could compare to the G1 and thats just sad considering the amount of praise it received. The G2 was nice but the Z hinge was bad and the fact that without overclocking the processor was smaller (though overclocked it was epic) was kinda lame. I dont think tegra 2s are going to make as big a difference as everyone thought if it's the same phones with a nicer processor. What ever happened to that phone with the projector built in? Thats a development...

No there won't. The first one will be the most hyped about regardless of the outcome. Why? It is the first of its kind! It applies to everything, first electric car, first 3D television, first motion-controlled games. So now manufacturers can only make the best phones that they can and still it won't have the same hype as it's granfather.

Isnt honeycomb supossed to be game changing? If you get a dual core phone running 3.0 maybe a gig of ram and you honestly say there Isnt a noticeable you might as well place a sticker saying 'troll' right on your forehead and/or asscheaks...
Word.
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timur525 said:
Isnt honeycomb supossed to be game changing? If you get a dual core phone running 3.0 maybe a gig of ram and you honestly say there Isnt a noticeable you might as well place a sticker saying 'troll' right on your forehead and/or asscheaks...
Word.
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please do learn your stuff before attempting to insult. 3.0 is a tablet os. Cheeks is spelled cheeks and yeah, not trolling, just a bunch of overhyped phones as of late

Troll.
You didn't capitalize a few letters where necessary. Also, you forgot your punctuation.
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So the Droid, the Hero, the Evo, the Galaxy S, the G2, the MT4g, and hell even the HD2 didn't have any hype? My sales when I worked at Radio shack tend to disagree with that.(Aside the droid)

vbetts said:
So the Droid, the Hero, the Evo, the Galaxy S, the G2, the MT4g, and hell even the HD2 didn't have any hype? My sales when I worked at Radio shack tend to disagree with that.(Aside the droid)
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They got the hype, aside from the HD2 though none of em lived up to it. That of course isnt android native.

z33dev33l said:
They got the hype, aside from the HD2 though none of em lived up to it. That of course isnt android native.
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Aside from the G1, the Droid is probably one of the factors that made Android what it is today. The Hero won awards left and right. The Galaxy S has had its share of problems, but considering there are so many variations of it out there, I'd say it lived up to it's hype and more. The Evo lived up to it's hype as one of the biggest selling devices for Sprint! It passed the record sales in the first week than the Palm Pre, their second biggest sales record in a week! Sprint kind of overestimated when they released their sales numbers, but it was still so much that they ran out of stock quickly everywhere. The MT4g is still growing! Look at the Desire! The Desire like the Hero received awards like phone of the year! G1 didn't. G1 was a hit with developers, and the homebrew community. As is almost every HTC phone is too.
Should also mention, in the T3 tech awards the HTC Desire also beat the Iphone 4, which the Iphone 4 and all the Iphone series is easily way over hyped compared to what the G1 was.

IPhone trying to ban sales of Galaxy phones in Europe

IPhone is really trying to ban Galaxy phones now ??? in Europe ???
See link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14652482
What is going on Galaxy can get around this Just by not including their comple rom...........
This would create a GREAT opportunity for MIUI or CM to assist in the battle against IPhones specious arguments
Your Thought ??

oka1 said:
IPhone is really trying to ban Galaxy phones now ??? in Europe ???
See link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14652482
What is going on Galaxy can get around this Just by not including their comple rom...........
This would create a GREAT opportunity for MIUI or CM to assist in the battle against IPhones specious arguments
Your Thought ??
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The major selling point of the s2 is the fact that it's the only hardware accelerated android phone. Throw cm7 or miui on there and its just another mediocre android device that's completely unimpressive. Unless either miui or cm plan on writing brand new drivers and Samsung intends to offer some sort of licensing deal then there's no real plus side to it.

Apple is pretty obnoxious. Their patents are ridiculously general

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IPhone is really trying to ban Galaxy phones now ??? in Europe ???
See link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14652482
What is going on Galaxy can get around this Just by not including their comple rom...........
This would create a GREAT opportunity for MIUI or CM to assist in the battle against IPhones specious arguments
Your Thought ??
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Not trying, actually doing. This time it is in the Netherlands where it is illegal for Samsung to sell the Galaxy S, Galaxy S 2.

MartyLK said:
his time it is in the Netherlands where it is illegal for Samsung to sell the Galaxy S, Galaxy S 2.
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No it's not. The injunction would take effect sometime in October, but by then Samsung will have their phones updated, so it's moot.
@z33dev33l: There is more to a phone than which chip is responsible for scrolling.

Gusar321 said:
No it's not. The injunction would take effect sometime in October, but by then Samsung will have their phones updated, so it's moot.
@z33dev33l: There is more to a phone than which chip is responsible for scrolling.
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its still just another laggy android phone without samsungs drivers.

Yeah, no matter how many people tell you they don't see any problems, all Androids are so laggy you measure scrolling in seconds per frame instead of frames per second. Sure.
Get a new shtick please, this one is getting boring.

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Yeah, no matter how many people tell you they don't see any problems, all Androids are so laggy you measure scrolling in seconds per frame instead of frames per second. Sure.
Get a new shtick please, this is is getting boring.
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nonsensical post first of all, second of all android did seem smooth til I got something smoother. Now every time I try to use an android device, gs2 included, I notice these little catches that I wouldn't have even seen before but now make the phone feel like I paid 500 dollars for feel cheap.

Of course it's nonsensical. But it's what you're saying all the time! So the nonsense is not on my part, but on yours. You *are* constantly talking as if Android is so slow, and as if all that matters on a phone is which chip does the scrolling. But of course when you're saying it, you don't see the nonsense in it.

protip, as usual: don't feed the troll.

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Of course it's nonsensical. But it's what you're saying all the time! So the nonsense is not on my part, but on yours. You *are* constantly talking as if Android is so slow, and as if all that matters on a phone is which chip does the scrolling. But of course when you're saying it, you don't see the nonsense in it.
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I was talking about your "seconds per frame" comment, none of what you said there made any sort of sense. Android is slow which is one of many faults in it, I like a phone that just works, nothing I have to crack flash roms to, nothing I have to download 40 apps to before it has basic functions, and certainly nothing that lags relentlessly and force closes on me. I just wanted a device that works how a smartphone should without spending days or weeks making it do so before the phone became moderately useful.

just to make sure you guys don't forget, considering my last reminder was on page 1:
don't feed the troll.

I don't even know why people with Iphones make an account on XDA...You take what apple gives you and that's that.

lowandbehold said:
I don't even know why people with Iphones make an account on XDA...You take what apple gives you and that's that.
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iPhones are horrendous aside from the app market, the UI is more cluttered than android though admittedly more uniform, and the hardware offers no choices. I am a long time winmo user and for a year and a half used android, I still have 14 android phones that dont get used. I'm just always on the lookout for the best. I'm a fanboy of no OS, whatever is best is what I use.

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I was talking about your "seconds per frame" comment, none of what you said there made any sort of sense.
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Oh, come on, surely you know that graphics speed (particularly 3d graphics) is measured in frames per second. You can't be going on and on about GPU acceleration the way you do and not know that. You're ether more clueless than I thought or just really good at trolling.
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I'm a fanboy of no OS
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You're capable of saying that with a straight face? Impressive. Very impressive. Oh, and LOL.
z33dev33l said:
of course I know that but your seconds per frame comment was what made no sense at all.
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Oh please. You have a brain. Use it.

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protip, as usual: don't feed the troll.
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Exactly,
BTW Samsung did enter into a agreement with Cyanogen group, my guess is it was preemptive strategy.
People who look at an Android phone as laggy have not really taken advantage of ALL the great work by the Devs here @ XDA, or Rootzwiki or elsewhere. My phone is screaming fast great battery life....etc.
My guess is Samsung along with HTC in particular are integrating the advancements made by US in the android community, because the fact that the op system is open all advancements can be blended in the best and fastest way. That is the beauty of the Android op system.
What Android is lacking is a singular voice......... Iphone is one phone one supplier. Android is many. So Iphone can effect great marketing assuring the customer that paying more for less is awesome and makes them feel good. But the fact is the Iphone is less for more. Android needs to get this message out in a single voice from all suppliers.

Gusar321 said:
Oh, come on, surely you know that graphics speed (particularly 3d graphics) is measured in frames per second. You can't be going on and on about GPU acceleration the way you do and not know that. You're ether more clueless than I thought or just really good at trolling.
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of course I know that but your seconds per frame comment was what made no sense at all.

oka1 said:
Exactly,
BTW Samsung did enter into a agreement with Cyanogen group, my guess is it was preemptive strategy.
People who look at an Android phone as laggy have not really taken advantage of ALL the great work by the Devs here @ XDA, or Rootzwiki or elsewhere. My phone is screaming fast great battery life....etc.
My guess is Samsung along with HTC in particular are integrating the advancements made by US in the android community, because the fact that the op system is open all advancements can be blended in the best and fastest way. That is the beauty of the Android op system.
What Android is lacking is a singular voice......... Iphone is one phone one supplier. Android is many. So Iphone can effect great marketing assuring the customer that paying more for less is awesome and makes them feel good. But the fact is the Iphone is less for more. Android needs to get this message out in a single voice from all suppliers.
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so they're combining the efforts of the xda community, google, and all of the OEMs to make an OS work almost as well as wp7 and (sadly) IOS do? Of course people will still have full system access to slow it down.

z33 i perfectly understand the point you wanna make here. I know you're not a simple troll, just a quite informed and very very picky user (like i am after all). Tbh i wasn't really likely to pick another android phone in the latest months, because i was (and i actually still am) disappointed about how the aosp is managed by google. After a year of usage i came to the conclusion that android os has many, MANY flaws. I started considering other devices, like wp7 phones, the iphone and even the new bold 9900, but after a lot of reflections i came to a quite simple conclusion: sure android isn't perfect, but jumping ship to any other os would have still felt like a downgrade to me, being used to what android offers to users: it simply felt like not having a real choice. Basically i (re)discovered that messing up my phone and being able to plug it to every pc or mac as a mere mass storage is actually something i like and need. So a couple weeks ago i looked around, checked which one was the most up to date and powerful android phone and picked up my sgs2, simple as that. Now i'm running a simple aosp rom, and i can say i'm not bothered that much about not having samsung's hw accelerated ui (which is a bit of a lie actually: if you load the tw launcher with a few widgets it actually lags): i use opera mobile for browsing, which is totally fast and smooth (buttery smooth), and launcher pro plus as a launcher, which is virtually lag free on this device, regardless how badly you load it with widgets.
It's true, you can see it from what i just said, android is all about workarounds to avoid flaws and bugs, but honestly i prefer *****ing a bit more with my phone to get it running as i like rather than getting any wp7 or ios device that takes no effort to "customize", but at the end of the day is like a wife telling you what you can and can't do
That's the way i see it at least...

Gusar321 said:
No it's not. The injunction would take effect sometime in October, but by then Samsung will have their phones updated, so it's moot.
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And the Tab isn't included
I expect an update from Google reasonably quickly which will prevent Apple trying the same trick with other companies.
In other news, Nokia have won against Apple, meaning they'll earn royalties from Apple.

Android 5.0 Jellybean out this spring to developers!?!?!? WTF?!??!(video fixed)

MY FAULT I POSTED THE WRONG VIDEO! I mean, seriously? Is there any need at this point in time? Will there be any hardware that can even run it by this fall or summer aside from maaaaaybe the Galaxy S 3? I dont understand it. Sometimes I feel like google should just keep all their OS development in the closet for at least 1.5-2 years at a time. 1 year minimum. Then do a controlled release with a absolutely bug-free platform. Im already seeing and feeling the gadget fatigue setting in. For christs sake a friend of mine just picked up a set of iPhone 3g's for free for his whole family like a year ago! And they are still liking them! I just dont think it makes sense to keep flooding the market so hard with devices and devices. But then again, that seems to be the correct formula for going up against the all-mighty fruit company. idk. This is great for developers, bad for consumers i guess. But im sure you all know that. Im just ranting.
THE NEWS ABOUT IT APPEARS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO!!!!

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I mean, seriously? Is there any need at this point in time? Will there be any hardware that can even run it by this fall or summer aside from maaaaaybe the Galaxy S 3? I dont understand it. Sometimes I feel like google should just keep all their OS development in the closet for at least 1.5-2 years at a time. 1 year minimum. Then do a controlled release with a absolutely bug-free platform. Im already seeing and feeling the gadget fatigue setting in. For christs sake a friend of mine just picked up a set of iPhone 3g's for free for his whole family like a year ago! And they are still liking them! I just dont think it makes sense to keep flooding the market so hard with devices and devices. But then again, that seems to be the correct formula for going up against the all-mighty fruit company. idk. This is great for developers, bad for consumers i guess. But im sure you all know that. Im just ranting.
The news about it appears in the beginning.
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why would you make a thread about android and link it to a video about iPad and Sony's new handheld? Troll
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Problem fixed.

tazbo28 said:
Well it was the first information I have heard about it, and I just happen to have xda open in another tab so... Did you even watch the video? Also did you even read what I said directly above the video? Seems like we know who the REAL troll is here. I own an Infuse btw so wtf dude? Srsly.
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Not starting **** I was seriously asking a question. Nowhere in the video did it say anything about 5.0
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Not starting **** I was seriously asking a question. Nowhere in the video did it say anything about 5.0
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Youtube had showed the wrong video in the player when I watched it. The title in youtube as well as the share link was for a completely different video. Its my ffault obviously for not checking that the video was the right one before posting. My bad.

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Youtube had showed the wrong video in the player when I watched it. The title in youtube as well as the share link was for a completely different video. Its my ffault obviously for not checking that the video was the right one before posting. My bad.
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Many of us still are using gingerbread in our devices and even some of them are shipped with froyo on it!
Meanwhile ICS isn't even finished perfectly yet so I don't understand why they shouldn't continue developing ICS before even starting Jelly bean...

I say go.
I think its a great idea. I not going to complain about more and new features. I also LOVE the feeling on an major android upgrade. And as for flooding the market with phones, Its fantastic because it makes companies compete to give you the best product. In the end we WIN!!!!!!!!!!.
This is absolutely awesome.

jelly bean is going to kill IOS !

I don't like google releasing a new version of O/S with less than one year gap. It's just my opinion though.

bransyeah said:
Many of us still are using gingerbread in our devices and even some of them are shipped with froyo on it!
Meanwhile ICS isn't even finished perfectly yet so I don't understand why they shouldn't continue developing ICS before even starting Jelly bean...
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This statement makes no sense whatsoever. Continue developing ICS before starting jellybean? Do you even understand what a software version is? ICS is Android. Jellybean will still be android. As Android gets updated, and enough changes get made to the software, that is when they decide to change a name. So in all actuality, jellybean is ICS that has been developed further.......

Umm.. Haven't even got ICS yet and rumors about 5.0 ? Duh! this makes me jealous and frustrate!

Google seems to be restless. Remember when Honeycomb was released, they announced ICS at the same time! We are developing with 3.1 in mind and can't even think of exclusively using newer features to Android 4.x because of the major lag in new devices.
This isn't good for developers, it just gives us more headaches to control the fragments.

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This makes absolutely zero sense for them to do this.
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I agree that it would be too soon to relewse a new is just recently after ice came out and with only 1% of phones using ice right now. They should prioritize updating tlthe rest of the phones to ice and ironing out and building that os to recognition instead of rolling out something new. It would totally make ice purposeless in my eyes and a waste. I know technology is ever expanding but seems its expanding too quick to anyone to enjoy it long enough to stick to one thing.

From what I heard its for tablets right ? So basically this is like honeycomb something meant for the tablet community . If its for mobiles then this is a very bad thing ,I mean seriously how many devices come with ICS now ? 5 ?

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From what I heard its for tablets right ? So basically this is like honeycomb something meant for the tablet community . If its for mobiles then this is a very bad thing ,I mean seriously how many devices come with ICS now ? 5 ?
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Its going to be for phones and tabs its going to be an overlay capable device for PC s which in my opinion pretty cool. Especially if u like Linux already. And were r not talking about a release for at least 6 months. Everything is just hear say for now
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If 5.0 comes out before 2013, Google is stupider than I thought.
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My whole thing about it is this, how do you explain to people who are still on Froyo, this is something new and great and you should use it! Their devices are supported by the manufacturer. If the manufacturer (like 3 main ones) dont keep up with the upgrade schedule with all their onslaught of devices, then whats the point?
I feel as though Android is being developed so rapidly that it seems as though they dont even care about what devices are out, or which ones "matter" to the market more. Its all about development for them. (which isnt necessarily bad) And for manufacturers, its all about flood flood flood the market with every new spec technology they can in order to not accidentally fall behind Apple. This is the honest to goodness truth i fear!!
Companies are trying their absolute best to make certain that they dont get caught by surprise with some Apple super device---so they keep putting out a new device the instant they make a little headway in specs. They are too afraid of letting the market settle for longer than 3 months!! For fear that Apple will announce a launch all of the sudden and bring out a 1080p hex core smartphone with 20 gb of ram and 128 gb of hard disk. lol! Its really starting to piss me off. Its starting to become a childish game of "oh we did/have that already, its not new."
These companies really have to let the market catch its breath. I mean here in the U.S. people are still trying to fight their way out of this recession, and yet Samsung and Android expect me to buy a Galaxy Nexus since its the ONLY device with ICS! Indirectly though it may be, its still frusterating as hell. I say 1 year, minimum. Dont tell people about it in the news, dont leak anything, and dont throw it on devices unless it really makes a big difference-or after one year! I mean, google will always have their ad revenue to sit on. So I really dont understand the rush to release. ---rant complete---