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i recently recieved the touch pro as upgrade from my mogul. to be clear the only internet options i have are dial up or tethering and i prefer the ladder. however im finding i cant stay tethered long without running out of battery. where with the mogul i could tether for 12 hrs straight i cant stay on more than 3hrs. i know its power consumption to charhe and it all runs through the battery. my question is would the cradle with seperate charger and usb plugs do anything? would wifi router software work better than tethering? can i bypass the battery and draw power from the cable itself? any help or tips/suggestions from people with similar situations would be great as i have seached here and ppcgeeks with no luck(thus far,im still looking)
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when you tether your phone, are you using usb cable to connect the phone to your computer? if so, why not set it to charge the phone while it's connected by usb cable? that way u'll just keep drawing power out of the computer and won't have to worry about phone battery draining quickly
it is set that way. the problem is, with the radio running to stay on the internet and with it sending data through the cable, it seems the load on the phone is too great for the charger to keep up sot aht the battery doesnt die down. And since it seems (correct me if i'm wrong) that the way power flow works is all through the battery (charger -> battery -> device) there is no way that i am aware of to keep a charge on it greater than the power consumption. This is why i was asking of docks such as the expansys one http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=169488 where it has seperate data and power plugs on the bottom would work.
Couple of things to clarify
1. That expansys cradle does have two ports on the bottom, but only one is USB/Power the other is a line out for audio, so that will not help you at all, accept to hold your phone up when you're using it.
2. A wifi router option will consume more power than tethering alone, and in my experience tethering, it does infact keep my battery charged. Are you sure that your usb cable is charging your phone? Do you have the option disabled that allows it to charge whilst connected to a computer?
Thx!
Kewlj1313
r u at home when you are tethering and do you have Bluetooth on your laptop
the option is checked, as i have double checked since you all have suggested this. yes i have bluetooth on my desktop but i would prefer to stay away fromt that option as its slower than usb tethering. the only thing i think may be effecting me that i just htought of was that i have had the usb cable plugged in the front side not on the direct Mobo connection. i will try this tonight and report back any success
I have the same problem, I've tried using the cable that it came with, the cable that came with my htc-6700, and my girlfriends Blackberry cable. It will usually begin to charge while tethered(PDANet) but quickly will revert to the battery. I'm using my girlfriends laptop as mine has a fried harddrive, her power cable jack is loose as if someone pulled the cord hard to the side, this causes it to switch from external power to battery very quckly sometimes. I thought that this caused the problem I had so I didn't bring it up before. I have my phone set to charge when USB is connected and I do not use any USB hubs. I've tried tethering over Wifi but I don't seem to get as high quality of a connection.(Bittorrent speeds extremely slow, although a speed test showed 2134kbps downspeed) I hope this can provide more information to figureout what is causing it.
Try this! Make sure it isn't causing your phone to get to warm and causing this issue, I had a similar problem with wifi and gps usage hmhm,
Open your keyboard whilst it is tethered and see if that makes any difference, and I'm not sure if it is possible to turn the screen off on the phone while tethered, but if you can do it!
Let us know what happens!
Kewlj1313
hmm...i wonder what's causing the power consumption to revert to battery source instead of usb cable. have you tried the dongle that came with the device? It supposedly allows you to charge while saving another usb port for headset...etc. Maybe it's possible to charge via wall charger and tether through usb cable at the same time?
or like previously mentioned, charge via usb cable when it's connected to the computer, but tether using bluetooth. I suspect the data tethering through usb is causing the "charge" to drop.
here is what i have found. First the power source must be sufficent ie 1 amp or 1000 ma use an ipod usb charger for moble htc one for home. Second the dongle will only let you charge on the mini port not the e-mini on the side. Problems iam working on is reducing battery drain by shunting off screen but it doesnt work with usb dun. it does work with wmwifirouter but i think there is a heat issue because it stops charging after awhile. Best sessions i have are usb with battery all way charged bthen watch it with battery window open same time.
criddlem,
THanks for doing the footwork on this one.
Shouldn't the bluetooth 2.0 network connection be capable of up to 3Mbit data rates in one direction? I wonder out loud if anyone on this forum has tested connectivity over BT? I don't know how this is handled in the hardware and it could be that the BT only gets a fraction of that in the real world. Of course, the laptop would have to be BT2.0+EDR as well to get that kind of rate in the first place.
Of course, running yet another device at full pace may just drain the battery that much faster!
Have you tested data rates over both BT and USB?
Thanks!
I tether quite frequently using a USB cable as well and I have found my phone always maintains a charging state. It does seem odd that yours isn't. I do know that I am not using the cable that came with the phone............
baboola said:
hmm...i wonder what's causing the power consumption to revert to battery source instead of usb cable. have you tried the dongle that came with the device? It supposedly allows you to charge while saving another usb port for headset...etc. Maybe it's possible to charge via wall charger and tether through usb cable at the same time?
or like previously mentioned, charge via usb cable when it's connected to the computer, but tether using bluetooth. I suspect the data tethering through usb is causing the "charge" to drop.
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I was going to suggest something similar.
A couple of years ago I had a sub-notebook that, for lack of a better term, had "sucky" usb ports. When I measured the current supplied was ~100mA. Enough to trickle charge my old TyTN, so it's amber charge light lit up, and I thought all was good.. till it gave me the ugly "Place on charge to prevent data loss message."
Do you have anything there to measure with?
Eirikr88 said:
the option is checked, as i have double checked since you all have suggested this...
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On my Fuze if the option is checked it means Do Not charge while
connected to a pc...
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Hi, sorry I may have misunderstood what you are trying to do, but I bought this cradle on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Touch-Pro...photoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
It has a seperate power in line for charging (including a 3 pin UK plug) and a USB sync line in the back of the device.
I belive this device charges from the mains while being connected via USB to the PC. Of course it could be charging through the USB but for me it charges quickly and is connected to PC at the same time so does what I need.
The swivel to use in landscape is an awesome feature too. Battery for me does run down pretty quick, away from cradle, but then I have been used to previous poor battery performance WM devices.
Cheers, Blair
well Erikr88, u said that u have the option check (to allow a charge while connected to your pc) and that u double checked to make sure. well go back and uncheck it as their is no option to check a box and charge while connected to ur pc. the option u can check is to NOT allow a charge, so uncheck it and c if that corrects the problem.
I can't understand why it is so slow to charge!
I tried also nuePower... but with no results.
The phone charge slow (in the same usb port where other htc phones charge quickly!)...
Do you have suggestions?
usb charging is just like that.. if you want it to charge faster, use the wall charger. although, from what i've heard, slow charging is better for the battery anyways.
yes but I usually use my tp as modem and happens that phone discharge quickly than what it charges!!! so after 3 hours phone is completely discharged!!!
This happens only with tp and not with touchHD neither with TytnII!
Incredible!
Although the voltage is the same on a PC USB port as on the wall charger, the amperage is much lower. Thus, the phone will charge significantly faster on the wall charger.
However...
I also use my TP as a modem, and I can leave it on the web indefinitely. If yours is running down, perhaps there's a different issue at play - if you don't have any power hungry apps running in the background you might just have a borked battery or USB port...
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Just put your phone off... the charching goes much faster...
enigma243 said:
Although the voltage is the same on a PC USB port as on the wall charger, the amperage is much lower. Thus, the phone will charge significantly faster on the wall charger.
However...
I also use my TP as a modem, and I can leave it on the web indefinitely. If yours is running down, perhaps there's a different issue at play - if you don't have any power hungry apps running in the background you might just have a borked battery or USB port...
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I tried just after hard reset without installing any application before.
I'm using Energy ROM and I'm quite sure ROM doesn't have any problem...
I do have the same problem with my Touch Diamond. When connected to my PC or even using my car charger, it will discharge completely after 2 or three hours of using, say, GPS and a few 3G connections to check traffic.
I can't use my Diamond as a modem for the same reason... I have flashed several roms and radios, nothing changed.
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Check if the TP really charges! The unit switches off the charging mode when it gets too hot or better too warm. So e.g. when in use as a GPS in car typically mounted on the windshield, it gets too warm pretty easily as GPS is quite an energy hungry application and quick discharging also heats up the battery.
CU,
Cactus World
P.S. If you are using the TP in car and have aircon, then try to direct one of the cold air streams to the TP to keep it cool. That helps to prevent the switching off of charging mode.
Try tbattery
I use the Energy Rom and it has a utility called tbattery that can show you whether the phone is charging or not and at what rate. Would at least tell you what's happening in the phone. Also gives you the internal temperature of the phone. I've found anything higher than 41 degrees c causes the phone to go into a slower charge mode; it's possible that a higher temp could stop charging altogether - however it should still allow you to power the phone and not use the battery....
I can use phone as modem and still charge it via usb. maybe try a different rom?
I can do that, too ! The problem is the phone charges too slowly, so that the actual power consumption is higher than the charging...
I think that it depends on how you use your phone as an Internet source. I use wmwifirouter, and last time I plugged into ac, my batery still ran down. If your phone lasts 4 hours as a wifi router with no power and charging takes 5 hours, you are operating at a defecit.
I'm using 3G and Internet Connection Sharing through USB cable.
And my diamond charges completely in less than two hours using the wall charger.
Normal behavior, USB port doesn't have enough "juice" to charge it faster.
If you want a quick charge - use wall charger.
1) I can't use tethering through USB if I use the wall charger
2) I use tethering when i'm NOT near a wall power outlet, obviously
3) I don't want a "quick charge"... I just want the phone not to loose charge.
4) I have owned many WinMo devices and this is the first one that will not hold charge while connected to USB
Start -> Settings-> System tab -> Power
There will be a check box that says "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC." Make sure it isn't checked.
That's the only thing I can think of right now. If I think of anything else, I'll post it.
bassman79 said:
Start -> Settings-> System tab -> Power
There will be a check box that says "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC." Make sure it isn't checked.
That's the only thing I can think of right now. If I think of anything else, I'll post it.
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Thanks for the hint, but it isn't checked.
I think it's just that the phone requires too much power
And it's getting very hot very fast, which will hinder proper charging, too.
I wonder if other modern HTC devices have the same overheating problem...
hello
sorry for pushing up the topic with no sloution but new question, but yesterday i get mad when after two hours of playing streamed music + being connected to wifi my TP battery died :/ Phone was connected to wall charger (oryginal from HTC) and still i was not enough. Damn it didnt happent ever to my blueangel/eten/hermes or any other earlyer device i had. Really im starting to be angry on my latest choice of this phone i should have stay with kaiser
sorry for spelling mistakes but my English is more verbal than writable
Hi All,
I've got a P4000 (Titan), and battery performance is awful when I run a program called Konoma to listen to internet radio stations.
With a fully charged battery (I have three that I rotate), I can barely get an hour our of it.
What really drives me insane is that while I'm driving, with the phone plugged in and charging, via USB, the battery STILL continues to drain. I'll get more than an hour, but eventually the battery dies.
I read that this is a problem inherent with the design of the P4000; it can't charge, via USB, while the phone is ON.
I was looking at upgrading to the TouchPro 2, but read that it also has this problem.
I like HTC products, and I love this site as it has allowed me to have fun with the phone, flashing, etc.
Does anyone know if all HTC phones have this problem? If not, which ones have fixed it? I'm hoping to get a fully-featured phone like the TP2, as long as it'll charge while ON and plugged into a usb charging port.
Thanks for your help,
Craig
I have a Touch Pro and it works fine plugged into a USB port charging while on in my car (that's what I use for GPS on long distance trips)
I just bought a brand new OTG cable and a Wireless adapter so I can use them together to boost my i9100 wifi connection.
Ive connected them and the battery died (it was on 1%) before I could turn on wifi.(It is charging right now.)
So while it is charging I'm researching on how to do this.Any ideas?
Hello,
I have little isuess with my new car, because wireless charger isn't good when i'm using a AA, and other apps - phone is really hot and slow, so i would like to turn it off, how i can do that?
Car doesn't have a option to turn off wireless charger
Norbertus20 said:
Hello,
I have little isuess with my new car, because wireless charger isn't good when i'm using a AA, and other apps - phone is really hot and slow, so i would like to turn it off, how i can do that?
Car doesn't have a option to turn off wireless charger
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Hm, cannot find a way to completely turn off wireles charging, but at least you can turn off the "Fast wireless charging" which at least for me was overheating the phone.
For that, go to : Settings->Battery & Device->Battery->More Battery Settings->Fast wireless charging
(or simply search for "charging" in settings and you'll get faster to "Fast wireless charging")
I have a new car that came with a wireless charger, and I've noticed that my phone gets hot after a while charging there. Will try disabling the fast wireless charging as suggested. I imagine that this could damage the phone in the living term right? Any possible explanation on why this happens?