I can't understand why it is so slow to charge!
I tried also nuePower... but with no results.
The phone charge slow (in the same usb port where other htc phones charge quickly!)...
Do you have suggestions?
usb charging is just like that.. if you want it to charge faster, use the wall charger. although, from what i've heard, slow charging is better for the battery anyways.
yes but I usually use my tp as modem and happens that phone discharge quickly than what it charges!!! so after 3 hours phone is completely discharged!!!
This happens only with tp and not with touchHD neither with TytnII!
Incredible!
Although the voltage is the same on a PC USB port as on the wall charger, the amperage is much lower. Thus, the phone will charge significantly faster on the wall charger.
However...
I also use my TP as a modem, and I can leave it on the web indefinitely. If yours is running down, perhaps there's a different issue at play - if you don't have any power hungry apps running in the background you might just have a borked battery or USB port...
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Just put your phone off... the charching goes much faster...
enigma243 said:
Although the voltage is the same on a PC USB port as on the wall charger, the amperage is much lower. Thus, the phone will charge significantly faster on the wall charger.
However...
I also use my TP as a modem, and I can leave it on the web indefinitely. If yours is running down, perhaps there's a different issue at play - if you don't have any power hungry apps running in the background you might just have a borked battery or USB port...
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I tried just after hard reset without installing any application before.
I'm using Energy ROM and I'm quite sure ROM doesn't have any problem...
I do have the same problem with my Touch Diamond. When connected to my PC or even using my car charger, it will discharge completely after 2 or three hours of using, say, GPS and a few 3G connections to check traffic.
I can't use my Diamond as a modem for the same reason... I have flashed several roms and radios, nothing changed.
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Check if the TP really charges! The unit switches off the charging mode when it gets too hot or better too warm. So e.g. when in use as a GPS in car typically mounted on the windshield, it gets too warm pretty easily as GPS is quite an energy hungry application and quick discharging also heats up the battery.
CU,
Cactus World
P.S. If you are using the TP in car and have aircon, then try to direct one of the cold air streams to the TP to keep it cool. That helps to prevent the switching off of charging mode.
Try tbattery
I use the Energy Rom and it has a utility called tbattery that can show you whether the phone is charging or not and at what rate. Would at least tell you what's happening in the phone. Also gives you the internal temperature of the phone. I've found anything higher than 41 degrees c causes the phone to go into a slower charge mode; it's possible that a higher temp could stop charging altogether - however it should still allow you to power the phone and not use the battery....
I can use phone as modem and still charge it via usb. maybe try a different rom?
I can do that, too ! The problem is the phone charges too slowly, so that the actual power consumption is higher than the charging...
I think that it depends on how you use your phone as an Internet source. I use wmwifirouter, and last time I plugged into ac, my batery still ran down. If your phone lasts 4 hours as a wifi router with no power and charging takes 5 hours, you are operating at a defecit.
I'm using 3G and Internet Connection Sharing through USB cable.
And my diamond charges completely in less than two hours using the wall charger.
Normal behavior, USB port doesn't have enough "juice" to charge it faster.
If you want a quick charge - use wall charger.
1) I can't use tethering through USB if I use the wall charger
2) I use tethering when i'm NOT near a wall power outlet, obviously
3) I don't want a "quick charge"... I just want the phone not to loose charge.
4) I have owned many WinMo devices and this is the first one that will not hold charge while connected to USB
Start -> Settings-> System tab -> Power
There will be a check box that says "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC." Make sure it isn't checked.
That's the only thing I can think of right now. If I think of anything else, I'll post it.
bassman79 said:
Start -> Settings-> System tab -> Power
There will be a check box that says "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC." Make sure it isn't checked.
That's the only thing I can think of right now. If I think of anything else, I'll post it.
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Thanks for the hint, but it isn't checked.
I think it's just that the phone requires too much power
And it's getting very hot very fast, which will hinder proper charging, too.
I wonder if other modern HTC devices have the same overheating problem...
hello
sorry for pushing up the topic with no sloution but new question, but yesterday i get mad when after two hours of playing streamed music + being connected to wifi my TP battery died :/ Phone was connected to wall charger (oryginal from HTC) and still i was not enough. Damn it didnt happent ever to my blueangel/eten/hermes or any other earlyer device i had. Really im starting to be angry on my latest choice of this phone i should have stay with kaiser
sorry for spelling mistakes but my English is more verbal than writable
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i recently recieved the touch pro as upgrade from my mogul. to be clear the only internet options i have are dial up or tethering and i prefer the ladder. however im finding i cant stay tethered long without running out of battery. where with the mogul i could tether for 12 hrs straight i cant stay on more than 3hrs. i know its power consumption to charhe and it all runs through the battery. my question is would the cradle with seperate charger and usb plugs do anything? would wifi router software work better than tethering? can i bypass the battery and draw power from the cable itself? any help or tips/suggestions from people with similar situations would be great as i have seached here and ppcgeeks with no luck(thus far,im still looking)
60 views and no ideas? Ouch
when you tether your phone, are you using usb cable to connect the phone to your computer? if so, why not set it to charge the phone while it's connected by usb cable? that way u'll just keep drawing power out of the computer and won't have to worry about phone battery draining quickly
it is set that way. the problem is, with the radio running to stay on the internet and with it sending data through the cable, it seems the load on the phone is too great for the charger to keep up sot aht the battery doesnt die down. And since it seems (correct me if i'm wrong) that the way power flow works is all through the battery (charger -> battery -> device) there is no way that i am aware of to keep a charge on it greater than the power consumption. This is why i was asking of docks such as the expansys one http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=169488 where it has seperate data and power plugs on the bottom would work.
Couple of things to clarify
1. That expansys cradle does have two ports on the bottom, but only one is USB/Power the other is a line out for audio, so that will not help you at all, accept to hold your phone up when you're using it.
2. A wifi router option will consume more power than tethering alone, and in my experience tethering, it does infact keep my battery charged. Are you sure that your usb cable is charging your phone? Do you have the option disabled that allows it to charge whilst connected to a computer?
Thx!
Kewlj1313
r u at home when you are tethering and do you have Bluetooth on your laptop
the option is checked, as i have double checked since you all have suggested this. yes i have bluetooth on my desktop but i would prefer to stay away fromt that option as its slower than usb tethering. the only thing i think may be effecting me that i just htought of was that i have had the usb cable plugged in the front side not on the direct Mobo connection. i will try this tonight and report back any success
I have the same problem, I've tried using the cable that it came with, the cable that came with my htc-6700, and my girlfriends Blackberry cable. It will usually begin to charge while tethered(PDANet) but quickly will revert to the battery. I'm using my girlfriends laptop as mine has a fried harddrive, her power cable jack is loose as if someone pulled the cord hard to the side, this causes it to switch from external power to battery very quckly sometimes. I thought that this caused the problem I had so I didn't bring it up before. I have my phone set to charge when USB is connected and I do not use any USB hubs. I've tried tethering over Wifi but I don't seem to get as high quality of a connection.(Bittorrent speeds extremely slow, although a speed test showed 2134kbps downspeed) I hope this can provide more information to figureout what is causing it.
Try this! Make sure it isn't causing your phone to get to warm and causing this issue, I had a similar problem with wifi and gps usage hmhm,
Open your keyboard whilst it is tethered and see if that makes any difference, and I'm not sure if it is possible to turn the screen off on the phone while tethered, but if you can do it!
Let us know what happens!
Kewlj1313
hmm...i wonder what's causing the power consumption to revert to battery source instead of usb cable. have you tried the dongle that came with the device? It supposedly allows you to charge while saving another usb port for headset...etc. Maybe it's possible to charge via wall charger and tether through usb cable at the same time?
or like previously mentioned, charge via usb cable when it's connected to the computer, but tether using bluetooth. I suspect the data tethering through usb is causing the "charge" to drop.
here is what i have found. First the power source must be sufficent ie 1 amp or 1000 ma use an ipod usb charger for moble htc one for home. Second the dongle will only let you charge on the mini port not the e-mini on the side. Problems iam working on is reducing battery drain by shunting off screen but it doesnt work with usb dun. it does work with wmwifirouter but i think there is a heat issue because it stops charging after awhile. Best sessions i have are usb with battery all way charged bthen watch it with battery window open same time.
criddlem,
THanks for doing the footwork on this one.
Shouldn't the bluetooth 2.0 network connection be capable of up to 3Mbit data rates in one direction? I wonder out loud if anyone on this forum has tested connectivity over BT? I don't know how this is handled in the hardware and it could be that the BT only gets a fraction of that in the real world. Of course, the laptop would have to be BT2.0+EDR as well to get that kind of rate in the first place.
Of course, running yet another device at full pace may just drain the battery that much faster!
Have you tested data rates over both BT and USB?
Thanks!
I tether quite frequently using a USB cable as well and I have found my phone always maintains a charging state. It does seem odd that yours isn't. I do know that I am not using the cable that came with the phone............
baboola said:
hmm...i wonder what's causing the power consumption to revert to battery source instead of usb cable. have you tried the dongle that came with the device? It supposedly allows you to charge while saving another usb port for headset...etc. Maybe it's possible to charge via wall charger and tether through usb cable at the same time?
or like previously mentioned, charge via usb cable when it's connected to the computer, but tether using bluetooth. I suspect the data tethering through usb is causing the "charge" to drop.
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I was going to suggest something similar.
A couple of years ago I had a sub-notebook that, for lack of a better term, had "sucky" usb ports. When I measured the current supplied was ~100mA. Enough to trickle charge my old TyTN, so it's amber charge light lit up, and I thought all was good.. till it gave me the ugly "Place on charge to prevent data loss message."
Do you have anything there to measure with?
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the option is checked, as i have double checked since you all have suggested this...
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On my Fuze if the option is checked it means Do Not charge while
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Hi, sorry I may have misunderstood what you are trying to do, but I bought this cradle on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Touch-Pro...photoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
It has a seperate power in line for charging (including a 3 pin UK plug) and a USB sync line in the back of the device.
I belive this device charges from the mains while being connected via USB to the PC. Of course it could be charging through the USB but for me it charges quickly and is connected to PC at the same time so does what I need.
The swivel to use in landscape is an awesome feature too. Battery for me does run down pretty quick, away from cradle, but then I have been used to previous poor battery performance WM devices.
Cheers, Blair
well Erikr88, u said that u have the option check (to allow a charge while connected to your pc) and that u double checked to make sure. well go back and uncheck it as their is no option to check a box and charge while connected to ur pc. the option u can check is to NOT allow a charge, so uncheck it and c if that corrects the problem.
When i plug my samsung omnia to the usb port it starts charging automaticly. This can be turned off with a third party app but it is really a pain in the butt as it makes me change the registry every time.
Anyway, i read somewhere that nowadays batteries won't get damage if you start charging them even if they aren't fully drained. Something like "baterry memory effect is a thing from the past."
Is this true?
Thanks in advance!
No, USb charging is the best way to charge your phone according to sticky over in the Nexus One forum. It emits the least ammount of energy to your phone making it less damaging to the battery. Car charging is the worst due to such a fast and high volume transfer rate.
I would agree, usb charging is much better than using the mains and heaven forbid using a car charger.
The usb does not give out the full 5v and while this may be a problem for usb cd-dvd’s or usn hard drives it is an advantage to us as this has the effect of trickle charging the battery and if done correctly this will in time condition your battery.
Many years ago I had the old SPV E100 and this came with a desktop cradle and I used to leave my cradle at work and drop my phone in to the cradle and use the activesync remote control to respond to texts or ‘play’ with my phone.
The E100 would barley last a day on a full charge and the cradle could not charge directly and you had to plug the charger into the cradle to make it charge. Then posts started appearing stating that with a single wire you could make the cradle charge from usb and I quickly made this mod to my cradle and hey presto I was charging from usb while at work.
I did not realise at the time the benefits of usb charging but I used to put my phone on the cradle in the morning, take it out during lunch, plug it back after lunch and take off when I go home and I used to do this almost every day and after six months or so I noticed that I could take my phone off the cradle at 5:00pm on Friday and it would still be running by Sunday lunchtime and all through usb charging.
I think I was lucky as the battery would only last a day and if you did the same on a modern device with a battery that lasts say three or four days it may not work out the same. I now have the TG01 and you will see by the reviews it has a very low capacity battery and using the same kind of trick it seems to be doing the same, its early days but so far so good.
What about day to day random connecting the phone to the pc via usb?
What about day to day random connecting the phone to the pc via usb for any other purposes than charging? Like activesync?
I use to connect a few times a day for periods of 4 or 5 minutes and then disconnect, and i am afraid of batterry side effects.
Should i be worried?
Hi again, officially speaking it should not make any difference but I would avoid plugging in for such short periods of time.
If you have a newer HTC device you may be lucky enough to have an option in the power settings something like ‘disable charging while plugged into pc’ if you tick this box you can plug and unplug to your hearts content but you will not charge.
If you anticipate being plugged in for quite some time then disable this option (if you have it). The only other way to avoid this is to look on Ebay and you will find usb sync/charge leads but you will find some with two usb connectors. One for data only and one for power only so you can charge without syncing or sync without charging or plug both in and sync and charge.
Fortunately for me once its plugged in it tends to stay plugged in for the rest of the day.
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Hi again, officially speaking it should not make any difference but I would avoid plugging in for such short periods of time.
If you have a newer HTC device you may be lucky enough to have an option in the power settings something like ‘disable charging while plugged into pc’ if you tick this box you can plug and unplug to your hearts content but you will not charge.
If you anticipate being plugged in for quite some time then disable this option (if you have it). The only other way to avoid this is to look on Ebay and you will find usb sync/charge leads but you will find some with two usb connectors. One for data only and one for power only so you can charge without syncing or sync without charging or plug both in and sync and charge.
Fortunately for me once its plugged in it tends to stay plugged in for the rest of the day.
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Thanks you so much for replying back. I don't have that option you mentioned but i downloaded a app that turns off usb charge. But thats a pain to do because it makes me mess with the registry everytime i want to turn that option off.
I would use bluetooth but i can't make my phone sync with my pc with it. I even created a thread asking for help but i got no awnser back http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7257183#post7257183
I am a bit lost here. Anyways thank you for the help. At least now i know that it isn't that risky, although sometimes i need to connect my phone to the pc for text messaging or any other stuff that doesn't take more than 10 minutes.
Damn i would love to sync my phone with pc via bluetooth or wi-fi..
Noob here, not the OP, but thanks for this info. I had no idea car charging was a bad thing. Will make a habit of charging from the USB in the future.
Hi again, just read your other post and I remember when I got my Omnia I had to use bluetooth sync as it did not come with a cable.
I used this http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3163 guide.
I know it says Windows XP but once I had my phone set and I plugged my bluetooth dongle into my work machine and set the comm port it worked and that was Windows 7 also.
On the downside syncing via usb will suck your battery pretty quickly (about the same as being on a call)
Today my Triumph seemed to be draining the battery faster than normal, though I was also making a lot more calls than normal. I have a cable plugged into my PC at work which I plugged into my phone but the driver install window didn't pop up like it normally does and my PC's network connection got very slow. I unplugged it and my PC connection was fine again. I left my phone unplugged for the most part after that though I did plug it in once or twice. I don't think it was ever truly recognized by my PC at work today (it has worked before) though I'm not certain.
When I was about to go home I noticed my phone was off. I knew it was low on battery so I assumed that it had turned off due to low battery. It couldn't have been off any more than 30-60 minutes. I didn't think it should have turned off already for low battery yet though.
I plugged it into my car charger and my phone refused to turn on. About 20 minutes later i unplugged my phone and the red charging light was still on. I had to pull the battery. I then turned on my phone and it was working, but low on battery.
About 45 minutes later I drove home with my phone plugged in, but I didn't check to see if the charging light was on. The phone was still on. When I got home I tried plugging in the phone and I noticed that it was not charging. It still isn't. I have tried the following:
Restarting phone
Plug in while it is turned off (charge light comes on but not charging animation, must pull battery for light to go off. phone will not start while plugged in or charge light is on)
Try plugging into computer rather than wall
Try car charger
Swap battery to stock battery (I use an Anker battery rather than the stock. I haven't used my stock battery for a few weeks to a month. It should have been fully charged but only had less than 50%) and try everything again with same results
Right now I have my Anker battery in which was nearly dead (below 10%) plugged into the wall with it off hoping it will charge. My phone is mostly stock other than I rooted it using the b_randon14's method, installed b_randon14's tweak mod, and flashed in the Sprint PRL using a method from howard forums with the 60681 version. I had links but had to remove them due to not previously posting on this forum.
I noticed the usb cable is not solid in the prot on my phone, but it never was and doesn't seem any different. For example I can move the cable back and forth a little bit while plugged in. It remains plugged in when I do this and while the phone is off it knows it is plugged in obviously. Any ideas?
Ok... I left it plugged in while off for an hour then it started working... very odd. Nevermind then I guess, lol.
Saw this thread, was going to suggest that. Your issue seems to be one that happens across all sorts of devices that have rechargeable batteries, even Android phones (and especially $&!t MP3 players that you'll find at K-Mart). I once made the mistake of buying a $30 MP3 player that refused to turn on once its battery dropped to a certain level. Twice. From K-Mart, of course.
Thank goodness for returns.
I am still having issues and it is really frustrating. Sometimes it will charge when on, some times it won't. The only thing I think MIGHT be common between when it does and doesn't work is how much battery is left. I think it might work more often when the battery is closer to a full charge. What I often do is plug in the phone, shut it off, it will charge but charging animation isn't there and I cannot turn it on until the charging animation shows up. I think it only shows up when the phone is fully charge or close to it (I've only ever seen it when it is fully charged).
Unfortunately I don't have a lot of concrete information on this as i haven't had much time to troubleshoot and verify any of my suspicions. I do know that USB Debugging has nothing to do with it and clearing my battery statistics didn't have any affect either. This issue is very frustrating and I believe are all software based, not hardware.
Any ideas or pointers?
Out of curiosity, have tried a different USB cable? I know that you talked about switching chargers, and I couldn't tell if this was just the base unit and you plugged the same cable in or, if it was a completely different charger and cable.
I have a wall charger with a usb cable at my office, a wall charger with a (different) usb cable at my house, and a car charger with its own non detachable usb cable. All have the same issue.
Ive been using my s3 for about 40 minutes on CM10. Plugged into a dual usb charger connected to not ip port, which in the past i have used fine. I have lost 5% battery in this time. Current widget doesn't work yet with S3. Suggestions?
Edit - The first time I got the phone after a full charge and discharge, while plugged into stock charger and before anything root, the same problem happened.
sfetaz said:
Ive been using my s3 for about 40 minutes on CM10. Plugged into a dual usb charger connected to not ip port, which in the past i have used fine. I have lost 5% battery in this time. Current widget doesn't work yet with S3. Suggestions?
Edit - The first time I got the phone after a full charge and discharge, while plugged into stock charger and before anything root, the same problem happened.
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From what I heard, the charger can't charge the phone fast enough when you are using it thus the losing charge while plugging in. If you are talking about losing percentage right after you disconnect the phone from the charger, that is a feature, I do not know at the top of my head why it does it.
If charging through USB port (and many car chargers) you're capped at 500mA vs 700+ for wall chargers. You can install a kernel that supports fast charging and you will get 700mA through USB.
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I'm having the same issue whether charging from usb or a power outlet. Charges for a bit initially, then drains. Happens with different cords, too. I'll pick it up and it will feel warm, see that the battery is lower than when I plugged it in, then put it down. Then it cools off and starts charging again. Any ideas?
Same here except
i have the same issue, i had stock Touchwiz and suddenly the phone started to discharge while on charging outlet, tried different chargers, outlets, different ports, etc. still wouldnt work, i even deleted several applications and turned off several phone functions, etc. still nothing, then i rooted to CM10.1 and the same issue still presists, the phone charges a bit then discharges weather i use it or not. the only solution to charge it, it seems to be by turning off the phone. i think it has to do with the usb port on the phone as i even had the battery changed and it still would discharge while on a charger.
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I got my HTC OneXL and that night I flashed Viper onto it. I don't know if it's the ROM or the phone itself, but it takes a really long time to charge. I plugged it in 2 hrs ago at 50% and I'm only now at 60%.
Battery life is hard to know length as I've had the phone a week and have been customizing and setting it up etc.
Is the charging a known issue to the phone or is it the ROM? I'm coming from the Iphone 4S and that thing charged up really fast.
Any help is greatly appreciated!!
Charging it from the pc or from the wall? Using the cable and power adapter it came with?
10 percent in 2 hours is slow. Typically in 2 hours I'll get about 50 percent or more.
If you have a 30 day faulty return policy I would take advantage and make sure they replace the power adapter too. Typically they would of course but I thought I'd specify just in case they wouldn't want to for whatever reason.
If you don't have a return policy available, I would try another usb power adapter for a couple hours as that would be my first guess as the culprit for this though it could also be an issue within the phone.
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I had the phone given to me and it didn't come with the original cord. I'm using the cord from my Xoom so that could be it...
Sometimes I use the wall charger, sometimes my pc and sometimes the USB port in my car. Guess I'll have to try and track down the actual cord and see if that works. It'd be cool if those dots on the back had an actual charger that worked for them!
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Sometimes I use the wall charger, sometimes my pc and sometimes the USB port in my car.
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Charging from a PC is slow, and from a car is extremely slow. If the 10% in 2 hours is from car charging, it would not surprise me, and pretty normal.
MicroUSB chargers or cords from most phones will work just fine on the this device, but don't know about the Xoom. I suspect either the charge source (car, PC) or cord may be the issue here.
Also keep in mind, that after a ROM flash, the battery meter is not completely accurate. You have to do a charge cycle to full, then drain to 10-20% for the high/low "flags" to be properly set. This might be part of the issue. But I haven't seen it cause such a slow increase in readings while charging, so I don't think its your main problem.