Has HTC fixed the charging problem while the phone is ON - General Questions and Answers

Hi All,
I've got a P4000 (Titan), and battery performance is awful when I run a program called Konoma to listen to internet radio stations.
With a fully charged battery (I have three that I rotate), I can barely get an hour our of it.
What really drives me insane is that while I'm driving, with the phone plugged in and charging, via USB, the battery STILL continues to drain. I'll get more than an hour, but eventually the battery dies.
I read that this is a problem inherent with the design of the P4000; it can't charge, via USB, while the phone is ON.
I was looking at upgrading to the TouchPro 2, but read that it also has this problem.
I like HTC products, and I love this site as it has allowed me to have fun with the phone, flashing, etc.
Does anyone know if all HTC phones have this problem? If not, which ones have fixed it? I'm hoping to get a fully-featured phone like the TP2, as long as it'll charge while ON and plugged into a usb charging port.
Thanks for your help,
Craig

I have a Touch Pro and it works fine plugged into a USB port charging while on in my car (that's what I use for GPS on long distance trips)

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Usb fast charging

I can't understand why it is so slow to charge!
I tried also nuePower... but with no results.
The phone charge slow (in the same usb port where other htc phones charge quickly!)...
Do you have suggestions?
usb charging is just like that.. if you want it to charge faster, use the wall charger. although, from what i've heard, slow charging is better for the battery anyways.
yes but I usually use my tp as modem and happens that phone discharge quickly than what it charges!!! so after 3 hours phone is completely discharged!!!
This happens only with tp and not with touchHD neither with TytnII!
Incredible!
Although the voltage is the same on a PC USB port as on the wall charger, the amperage is much lower. Thus, the phone will charge significantly faster on the wall charger.
However...
I also use my TP as a modem, and I can leave it on the web indefinitely. If yours is running down, perhaps there's a different issue at play - if you don't have any power hungry apps running in the background you might just have a borked battery or USB port...
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Just put your phone off... the charching goes much faster...
enigma243 said:
Although the voltage is the same on a PC USB port as on the wall charger, the amperage is much lower. Thus, the phone will charge significantly faster on the wall charger.
However...
I also use my TP as a modem, and I can leave it on the web indefinitely. If yours is running down, perhaps there's a different issue at play - if you don't have any power hungry apps running in the background you might just have a borked battery or USB port...
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I tried just after hard reset without installing any application before.
I'm using Energy ROM and I'm quite sure ROM doesn't have any problem...
I do have the same problem with my Touch Diamond. When connected to my PC or even using my car charger, it will discharge completely after 2 or three hours of using, say, GPS and a few 3G connections to check traffic.
I can't use my Diamond as a modem for the same reason... I have flashed several roms and radios, nothing changed.
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Check if the TP really charges! The unit switches off the charging mode when it gets too hot or better too warm. So e.g. when in use as a GPS in car typically mounted on the windshield, it gets too warm pretty easily as GPS is quite an energy hungry application and quick discharging also heats up the battery.
CU,
Cactus World
P.S. If you are using the TP in car and have aircon, then try to direct one of the cold air streams to the TP to keep it cool. That helps to prevent the switching off of charging mode.
Try tbattery
I use the Energy Rom and it has a utility called tbattery that can show you whether the phone is charging or not and at what rate. Would at least tell you what's happening in the phone. Also gives you the internal temperature of the phone. I've found anything higher than 41 degrees c causes the phone to go into a slower charge mode; it's possible that a higher temp could stop charging altogether - however it should still allow you to power the phone and not use the battery....
I can use phone as modem and still charge it via usb. maybe try a different rom?
I can do that, too ! The problem is the phone charges too slowly, so that the actual power consumption is higher than the charging...
I think that it depends on how you use your phone as an Internet source. I use wmwifirouter, and last time I plugged into ac, my batery still ran down. If your phone lasts 4 hours as a wifi router with no power and charging takes 5 hours, you are operating at a defecit.
I'm using 3G and Internet Connection Sharing through USB cable.
And my diamond charges completely in less than two hours using the wall charger.
Normal behavior, USB port doesn't have enough "juice" to charge it faster.
If you want a quick charge - use wall charger.
1) I can't use tethering through USB if I use the wall charger
2) I use tethering when i'm NOT near a wall power outlet, obviously
3) I don't want a "quick charge"... I just want the phone not to loose charge.
4) I have owned many WinMo devices and this is the first one that will not hold charge while connected to USB
Start -> Settings-> System tab -> Power
There will be a check box that says "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC." Make sure it isn't checked.
That's the only thing I can think of right now. If I think of anything else, I'll post it.
bassman79 said:
Start -> Settings-> System tab -> Power
There will be a check box that says "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC." Make sure it isn't checked.
That's the only thing I can think of right now. If I think of anything else, I'll post it.
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Thanks for the hint, but it isn't checked.
I think it's just that the phone requires too much power
And it's getting very hot very fast, which will hinder proper charging, too.
I wonder if other modern HTC devices have the same overheating problem...
hello
sorry for pushing up the topic with no sloution but new question, but yesterday i get mad when after two hours of playing streamed music + being connected to wifi my TP battery died :/ Phone was connected to wall charger (oryginal from HTC) and still i was not enough. Damn it didnt happent ever to my blueangel/eten/hermes or any other earlyer device i had. Really im starting to be angry on my latest choice of this phone i should have stay with kaiser
sorry for spelling mistakes but my English is more verbal than writable

Can usb charging damage the baterry?

When i plug my samsung omnia to the usb port it starts charging automaticly. This can be turned off with a third party app but it is really a pain in the butt as it makes me change the registry every time.
Anyway, i read somewhere that nowadays batteries won't get damage if you start charging them even if they aren't fully drained. Something like "baterry memory effect is a thing from the past."
Is this true?
Thanks in advance!
No, USb charging is the best way to charge your phone according to sticky over in the Nexus One forum. It emits the least ammount of energy to your phone making it less damaging to the battery. Car charging is the worst due to such a fast and high volume transfer rate.
I would agree, usb charging is much better than using the mains and heaven forbid using a car charger.
The usb does not give out the full 5v and while this may be a problem for usb cd-dvd’s or usn hard drives it is an advantage to us as this has the effect of trickle charging the battery and if done correctly this will in time condition your battery.
Many years ago I had the old SPV E100 and this came with a desktop cradle and I used to leave my cradle at work and drop my phone in to the cradle and use the activesync remote control to respond to texts or ‘play’ with my phone.
The E100 would barley last a day on a full charge and the cradle could not charge directly and you had to plug the charger into the cradle to make it charge. Then posts started appearing stating that with a single wire you could make the cradle charge from usb and I quickly made this mod to my cradle and hey presto I was charging from usb while at work.
I did not realise at the time the benefits of usb charging but I used to put my phone on the cradle in the morning, take it out during lunch, plug it back after lunch and take off when I go home and I used to do this almost every day and after six months or so I noticed that I could take my phone off the cradle at 5:00pm on Friday and it would still be running by Sunday lunchtime and all through usb charging.
I think I was lucky as the battery would only last a day and if you did the same on a modern device with a battery that lasts say three or four days it may not work out the same. I now have the TG01 and you will see by the reviews it has a very low capacity battery and using the same kind of trick it seems to be doing the same, its early days but so far so good.
What about day to day random connecting the phone to the pc via usb?
What about day to day random connecting the phone to the pc via usb for any other purposes than charging? Like activesync?
I use to connect a few times a day for periods of 4 or 5 minutes and then disconnect, and i am afraid of batterry side effects.
Should i be worried?
Hi again, officially speaking it should not make any difference but I would avoid plugging in for such short periods of time.
If you have a newer HTC device you may be lucky enough to have an option in the power settings something like ‘disable charging while plugged into pc’ if you tick this box you can plug and unplug to your hearts content but you will not charge.
If you anticipate being plugged in for quite some time then disable this option (if you have it). The only other way to avoid this is to look on Ebay and you will find usb sync/charge leads but you will find some with two usb connectors. One for data only and one for power only so you can charge without syncing or sync without charging or plug both in and sync and charge.
Fortunately for me once its plugged in it tends to stay plugged in for the rest of the day.
dr_strangetrick said:
Hi again, officially speaking it should not make any difference but I would avoid plugging in for such short periods of time.
If you have a newer HTC device you may be lucky enough to have an option in the power settings something like ‘disable charging while plugged into pc’ if you tick this box you can plug and unplug to your hearts content but you will not charge.
If you anticipate being plugged in for quite some time then disable this option (if you have it). The only other way to avoid this is to look on Ebay and you will find usb sync/charge leads but you will find some with two usb connectors. One for data only and one for power only so you can charge without syncing or sync without charging or plug both in and sync and charge.
Fortunately for me once its plugged in it tends to stay plugged in for the rest of the day.
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Thanks you so much for replying back. I don't have that option you mentioned but i downloaded a app that turns off usb charge. But thats a pain to do because it makes me mess with the registry everytime i want to turn that option off.
I would use bluetooth but i can't make my phone sync with my pc with it. I even created a thread asking for help but i got no awnser back http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7257183#post7257183
I am a bit lost here. Anyways thank you for the help. At least now i know that it isn't that risky, although sometimes i need to connect my phone to the pc for text messaging or any other stuff that doesn't take more than 10 minutes.
Damn i would love to sync my phone with pc via bluetooth or wi-fi..
Noob here, not the OP, but thanks for this info. I had no idea car charging was a bad thing. Will make a habit of charging from the USB in the future.
Hi again, just read your other post and I remember when I got my Omnia I had to use bluetooth sync as it did not come with a cable.
I used this http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3163 guide.
I know it says Windows XP but once I had my phone set and I plugged my bluetooth dongle into my work machine and set the comm port it worked and that was Windows 7 also.
On the downside syncing via usb will suck your battery pretty quickly (about the same as being on a call)

[Q] [HELP]Phone will not charge

Today my Triumph seemed to be draining the battery faster than normal, though I was also making a lot more calls than normal. I have a cable plugged into my PC at work which I plugged into my phone but the driver install window didn't pop up like it normally does and my PC's network connection got very slow. I unplugged it and my PC connection was fine again. I left my phone unplugged for the most part after that though I did plug it in once or twice. I don't think it was ever truly recognized by my PC at work today (it has worked before) though I'm not certain.
When I was about to go home I noticed my phone was off. I knew it was low on battery so I assumed that it had turned off due to low battery. It couldn't have been off any more than 30-60 minutes. I didn't think it should have turned off already for low battery yet though.
I plugged it into my car charger and my phone refused to turn on. About 20 minutes later i unplugged my phone and the red charging light was still on. I had to pull the battery. I then turned on my phone and it was working, but low on battery.
About 45 minutes later I drove home with my phone plugged in, but I didn't check to see if the charging light was on. The phone was still on. When I got home I tried plugging in the phone and I noticed that it was not charging. It still isn't. I have tried the following:
Restarting phone
Plug in while it is turned off (charge light comes on but not charging animation, must pull battery for light to go off. phone will not start while plugged in or charge light is on)
Try plugging into computer rather than wall
Try car charger
Swap battery to stock battery (I use an Anker battery rather than the stock. I haven't used my stock battery for a few weeks to a month. It should have been fully charged but only had less than 50%) and try everything again with same results
Right now I have my Anker battery in which was nearly dead (below 10%) plugged into the wall with it off hoping it will charge. My phone is mostly stock other than I rooted it using the b_randon14's method, installed b_randon14's tweak mod, and flashed in the Sprint PRL using a method from howard forums with the 60681 version. I had links but had to remove them due to not previously posting on this forum.
I noticed the usb cable is not solid in the prot on my phone, but it never was and doesn't seem any different. For example I can move the cable back and forth a little bit while plugged in. It remains plugged in when I do this and while the phone is off it knows it is plugged in obviously. Any ideas?
Ok... I left it plugged in while off for an hour then it started working... very odd. Nevermind then I guess, lol.
Saw this thread, was going to suggest that. Your issue seems to be one that happens across all sorts of devices that have rechargeable batteries, even Android phones (and especially $&!t MP3 players that you'll find at K-Mart). I once made the mistake of buying a $30 MP3 player that refused to turn on once its battery dropped to a certain level. Twice. From K-Mart, of course.
Thank goodness for returns.
I am still having issues and it is really frustrating. Sometimes it will charge when on, some times it won't. The only thing I think MIGHT be common between when it does and doesn't work is how much battery is left. I think it might work more often when the battery is closer to a full charge. What I often do is plug in the phone, shut it off, it will charge but charging animation isn't there and I cannot turn it on until the charging animation shows up. I think it only shows up when the phone is fully charge or close to it (I've only ever seen it when it is fully charged).
Unfortunately I don't have a lot of concrete information on this as i haven't had much time to troubleshoot and verify any of my suspicions. I do know that USB Debugging has nothing to do with it and clearing my battery statistics didn't have any affect either. This issue is very frustrating and I believe are all software based, not hardware.
Any ideas or pointers?
Out of curiosity, have tried a different USB cable? I know that you talked about switching chargers, and I couldn't tell if this was just the base unit and you plugged the same cable in or, if it was a completely different charger and cable.
I have a wall charger with a usb cable at my office, a wall charger with a (different) usb cable at my house, and a car charger with its own non detachable usb cable. All have the same issue.

[Q] Optimus 3D not charging and freezing

Hi to all!
I have this phone about 4 months now, and the phone sometimes wont charge when I plug it in. Also, sometimes when fully charged, it freezes and I need to pull the battery out and restart it. I could not charge it last night and when I turned the phone off and re-inserted the charger plug it charged normally (apart from phone being off).
I have taken it to the dealership service since it could not connect to the wifi and drained battery really fast after that and they changed the usb socket and reinstalled the software. The phone passed all their tests, and it connects to the wifi flawless now, but this charging issue is really bugging me. I almost overslept one day not knowing that the darn thing has frozen.
The phone has all the stock firmware and the OS is 2.3.5.
Any help appreciated..
coffeeguy said:
Hi to all!
I have this phone about 4 months now, and the phone sometimes wont charge when I plug it in. Also, sometimes when fully charged, it freezes and I need to pull the battery out and restart it. I could not charge it last night and when I turned the phone off and re-inserted the charger plug it charged normally (apart from phone being off).
I have taken it to the dealership service since it could not connect to the wifi and drained battery really fast after that and they changed the usb socket and reinstalled the software. The phone passed all their tests, and it connects to the wifi flawless now, but this charging issue is really bugging me. I almost overslept one day not knowing that the darn thing has frozen.
The phone has all the stock firmware and the OS is 2.3.5.
Any help appreciated..
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It's your cable mate i had the same problem the cable LG gave us is cheap you need to buy a good usb cable. I use my Htc desires cable not only does it fit it is stably connected and doesnt move about in the socket i use the lg plug of course but the htc desire cable... Sorted..
Before i used my htc cable my charging always got stuck and i would have to pull the battery now i don't have to do that.. Also the lg cable damages the usb socket on your phone quickly i suggest get a cable if it does that then have it fixed and never use the LG cable again...
Really?!
That is really good news than!
My wife has Galaxy Ace and I did use her charger several times in the past and I had partial success with it, sometimes it would charge, sometimes not, but I never tried it after servicing the phone.
I will try it, thanks for the reply...
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[Q] Forever to charge...

Hopefully I don't get flamed for this as I have been doing searches but so far nothing...
I got my HTC OneXL and that night I flashed Viper onto it. I don't know if it's the ROM or the phone itself, but it takes a really long time to charge. I plugged it in 2 hrs ago at 50% and I'm only now at 60%.
Battery life is hard to know length as I've had the phone a week and have been customizing and setting it up etc.
Is the charging a known issue to the phone or is it the ROM? I'm coming from the Iphone 4S and that thing charged up really fast.
Any help is greatly appreciated!!
Charging it from the pc or from the wall? Using the cable and power adapter it came with?
10 percent in 2 hours is slow. Typically in 2 hours I'll get about 50 percent or more.
If you have a 30 day faulty return policy I would take advantage and make sure they replace the power adapter too. Typically they would of course but I thought I'd specify just in case they wouldn't want to for whatever reason.
If you don't have a return policy available, I would try another usb power adapter for a couple hours as that would be my first guess as the culprit for this though it could also be an issue within the phone.
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I had the phone given to me and it didn't come with the original cord. I'm using the cord from my Xoom so that could be it...
Sometimes I use the wall charger, sometimes my pc and sometimes the USB port in my car. Guess I'll have to try and track down the actual cord and see if that works. It'd be cool if those dots on the back had an actual charger that worked for them!
ChandraKoo said:
Sometimes I use the wall charger, sometimes my pc and sometimes the USB port in my car.
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Charging from a PC is slow, and from a car is extremely slow. If the 10% in 2 hours is from car charging, it would not surprise me, and pretty normal.
MicroUSB chargers or cords from most phones will work just fine on the this device, but don't know about the Xoom. I suspect either the charge source (car, PC) or cord may be the issue here.
Also keep in mind, that after a ROM flash, the battery meter is not completely accurate. You have to do a charge cycle to full, then drain to 10-20% for the high/low "flags" to be properly set. This might be part of the issue. But I haven't seen it cause such a slow increase in readings while charging, so I don't think its your main problem.

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