I am looking for an upgrade from the Universal. These two devices are looking about the closest (or the touch pro 2).
I use the universal without earphones or bluetooth, as a phone, is that possible with the 75x0? Or must you have an attachment?
(the universal had two dedicated speakers for mono 'phone' mode, and two others for stereo speakerphone).
you need attachment, you can't just use it as a phone (ie hold it to your ear) it gets real annoying for me.
To be honest, practically it can work as a phone even w/o any attachment. It has two stereo louder speakers and one microphone on its front panel. But the thing is that it does not have the speaker like in the regular phone - only louder speaking mode is available, therefore, everybody will hear you during your phone conversations. Or you should find out your "secret" place for talking with people.
BT or cord attachment can solve this problem and let you use this brick as a phone, but, believe me, you will forget about regular use...
This is real "another brick in the wall..."
Now I'm just trying to test this relation 7510 + cord headset replacing my Nokia E71 (just to test). Finally, I'm sure that I will return to Nokia soon - it's absolutely impossible to use 7510 as a regular working phone for everyday use.
I'm using the X7500 and now X7510 since 3 years as phone and Im happy with. OK, you need a BT headset or BT carkit - but no other phone in the world can offer the features a X75xx has.
Dieter
dieterpapa said:
I'm using the X7500 and now X7510 since 3 years as phone and Im happy with. OK, you need a BT headset or BT carkit - but no other phone in the world can offer the features a X75xx has.
Dieter
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Interesting that someone would love to use the x75x0 as a regular phone. The more recent WM phones (Touch HD2, Toshiba TG01) being hailed have screens almost as big as the x75x0. When I read their users' wish list for these modern phones, they seem to be describing something like the x75x0. Something tells me that a re-release of the x7510 with some tweaks could be a winner! Desired improvements: 1GHz processor, WVGA (800x480) resolution, skin cover for the main device (without hardware keyboard).
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Interesting that someone would love to use the x75x0 as a regular phone. The more recent WM phones (Touch HD2, Toshiba TG01)
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People think these screens are as big?
I have the universal, which is a 4" screen, and when I look at any phone in a shop at the moment, the size of the screen is much smaller.
I use my X7510 as a phone (and internet browser, agenda, tomtom and mp3 player)
The WM 6.5.3 interface is a huge improvement in the phone usefulness and that makes Windows mobile slowly getting to become a proper phone-software.
The contact images (the faces of your contacts) are of course still microscopic.
I live in one of the no cellphone while driving w/o a headset states, so I take my blueant z9i headset wherever I go anyway, so if youre the same then I'd say yes, it works perfectly and reliably as a phone, as well as an internet tablet, a messenger device, a audio-video player, an ebook reader, a GPS Navigator, an SNES emulator, (haven't tried the playstation emulator yet), as well as whatever else of the boatload of uses you can find for it.
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Hello. I am new to the forum, so I hope this particular topic hasn't already been covered before. I did some looking and couldn't find anything.
I am looking to jump into an HTC smart phone (or a PDA phone of some kind), but the one feature I would most like to see addressed is whether the phone can also double as a digital recorder. I know there's a voice record microphone built directly into the phone itself, but I'm after something more along the lines of an external jack.
A bit of background:
I'm a writer and often find myself recording either a) in person interviews or b) telephone interviews. I am currently using a Sony MD to record both by way of a microphone that plugs in directly to the MD or a jack system that allows me to plug into a normal land-line phone. It usually works fine, but my MD is getting to be of age and is, as such, increasingly less reliable.
I don't want to record phone conversations that I'm having on my HTC itself (though that would also be beneficial), but rather as an option to simply plug into it (via a straight microphone or USB jack) and record.
Is this possible? That's the question. I've been doing a lot of research and haven't found anything conclusive and would appreciate some feedback to that end. And if not, why not? Between a smart phone's capacity to write word documents, take pictures and, hopefully, record (from phone, microphone, etc.) this would be the tool many journalists would undoubtedly want to have.
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notes let one record from the mic
i'd asume that the input for wired headset mic also works with that recorder
if not then i'd guess it is bipassing the pda and goes directly into the gsm part
but i'd think it would work out of the box
headset mic and built-in mic
The question about the headset mics I have seen, though, is whether they'd pick up a telephone conversation. And then it's not a dedicated line-in, but part of a headset attachment, anyway. I just want a dedicated line in specifically for recording from an external source i.e. not any convo on the phone.
More to the point
Is there a microphone-only line in (dedicated or USB variety) available for a smart phone?
yuriy, pls read my past sound recording articles, i have answered all your questions in them
Do you have a link to those articles?
Do you have a link to those articles?
Found 'em
"Well... yes and no. Depends. Unfortunately, very few of the recent PPC PDA's (the Toshiba e series, the Asus A730/730w, the Dell x50v/x51v, the above-mentioned Fujitsu-Siemens Pocket Loox 720 and the iPAQ 5450/5550/hx4700) have a direct mike input ring in their headphones jack. Furthermore, this input is mono only - there're no PDA's with stereo sound inputs at all."
I don't really care that it's a mono jack, frankly; I am not trying to reproduce stuff as an audiophile. But which models can I plug a mike into directly to begin recording? I'm actually a little amazed that this issue has required so much digging; I would thought this would have been a natural, easy-to-understand feature included on every smart phone.
i remember in the past... i ve seen some SD card for reporters or so, with in and outs...
but my new tytn has only microSD :-(
i would be glad to have in any way line in as well... and as hell! ;-)
please keep this going here, and the big search as well...
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Any word on this?
did anyone succeeded using voip through the normal phone speakr? (the ear speaker, not the music/loud speaker), preferably with the integrated wm6 voip?
if so, what is your rom type and version?
what is the size and date of your \windows\rtcdll.dll?
thanks.
not sure if any non real phone apps got access to that speaker
if it is possible then i believe that programs have to be written to use it
and skype being developd as a pda program rather then a pdaphone program
prob use the only speaker normal pda's got
i could be wrong though
maybe you can get it ot use a bluetooth headset with less hassel
HEllo,
I discovered yesterday the issue with the speaker and went through many forum but did not find any positive answer on how to get the sound directed to the good speaker.when using SIP.
I even did not understood if it is a problem of the touch cruise only or a general issue ...
Is the issue solvable - So I can still hope - or is there any hardware limitation
This issue means that using SIP with the Touch cruise is not possible except if we agree to have everyone in the room listening to the phone call ...
So if you have any positive information/solution ... Thank you
Franck
Search for a sip client agenet mobile or something. It's not exactly the name, but I can't dind it again. But this one is the only one that works at least on some of the smartphones with the earspeaker. And they want to add more supported devices in the future.
Generally it's a general problem, not a TC problem. The telcos just don't want a proper SIP integration in WM or they even deactivate it completely. It's a kind of squeeze to Microsoft. But MS won't disrespect them because they all like money.
Thank you for the answer.
I found Agephone mobile. Is it the one you were thinking about ?
I just tried it but no success, sound still come out through the rear speaker ...
Franck
Yeah, that's it. I've tried it right now as well but no luck. It's quite useless, as long as the ear speaker is not working. But it's not their blame. On the Trinity it's working allegedly.
Maybe we can them them a log. For some models they fix it.
phone speaker
it must work cause it works for me.
Hello papasieg,
Does it really work for you ? with the sound coming from the normal sound speaker and not the rear one ?
Take care that a trick exist with some SIP softphone which reduces the level on the rear sound speaker, giving the impression that it comes from the normal sound speaker but is is not the case ...
I am going to have another look at agephone
I had a discussion with eyepmedia (they produce eyepcommunicator). They answered:
Regarding our SIP softphone - eyeP Communicator for Windows Mobile – we have not yet made any certifications (nor tests) with the HTC Touch series. Until last year, previous HTC devices (HTC TyTN, 9100, etc) exposed a hardware bug which did not allow to handle the back and phone speakers correctly. But we hope this issue has been sorted out by HTC on new devices.
For information, we intend to make a new certification versus an HTC Touch Cruise before the end of the year. If your project has shorter timelines, then I suggest organizing a conf call to a date/time which works fine with you.
Franck
New test with Age phone
I made a new test with Agephone Version 2.63 (2008.08.28) and did not managed to have it working properly (I tried several configuration for the audio device).
So if someone has a working configuration ...
Sincerely,
Franck
Well, this is not really a question or problem. But just a headsup that the Diamond works just fine with my Nokia CK-7W.
However it would also be nice to hear from you guys (and girls) as well, since I can't imagine I'm the only one with succes!
You might wonder "Why the hell do you post this?!". Well, that's simple because when I wanted to find out whether that Nokia carkit would work together with the Diamond I coulnd't find anything.
And since my experiences with Nokia carkits and HTC phones weren't all that good (read: BAD, lots of echo and weird connection problems) I was pretty anxious to give this a try.
After testing it on another CK-7W, which was already built in a car, I figured it worked perfectly so I took the plunge and got one for my car.
(Before you ask, why no parrot or other brand? I was able to get my hands on this one really cheap.)
The only problem I got was the first time I wanted to pair the device. Every time after entering the 4 digit passcode I got a message saying the passcode was incorrect. Instantly, not even trying to connect. After leaving it all alone for 10-15 minutes and I tried to connect again it suddenly worked without any problems. And it's still working with no issues at all.
ROM I use:
SWIFTBL WWE DIAMOND ROM V7.5
OS Version: CE 5.2.20755 (Build 20755 AKU 1.4.0)
Base ROM Version: 1.93.405.1 UK WWE
So.. more succes stories here? Or problems?
Hi
I have the same setup, Nokia CK-7W in my volvo s60 connected to my MDA Compact IV running swiftbldade 7.5.
It all works perfect.
I even have MS Voice command setup with it and it annonuces incoming callers and messages perfectly and voice dialling works perfect as well.
Call quality is very good as well.
Shaks
Hey - I've got my CK-7W working fine too, except I'd like to also enable wireless stereo... but the option doesn't seem to exist... I bought the CK-7W off a friend, and he was able to use wireless stereo, but I cn't - has anyone else had any success...?
Relly something I want for using TomTom, etc...
Hi i have CK-7W car kit and I am having problems getting my Diamond to pair can you please advise how you guys paired your ones?
Can't say anything more than I just used the normal way to pair, go to bluetooth settings, search for device and select the carkit + enter correct passcode.
I did however have some problems in the beginning. It would find the carkit but after entering the passcode it said pairing failed.
But when I tried later again it went without a problem, and it paired everytime without a problem ever since.
I dont think the ck-7w supports stereo audio. There are however apps that can route the audio over the carkit. BTAudio is one called if I remember correctly. That way you can have the tomtom over the carkit, but quality isn't that good really.
And some say that using that audio routing also gives 'problems' sometimes, as in it sometimes seems like there is audio (e.g. the car radio is muted) but you don't hear anything for a few secs. So that can be quite annoying.
hmmm??? My diamond wont even pick up the car kit during the search!
I had some problems pairing in the first place...
Don't try to search for the car-kit using the phone, just have your Diamond on BT visible to others, and the car-kit will try to connect automatically... I think you might need to hold the button on the car-kit down for like 10 seconds for it to search, but definately let the kit find the phone, not the other way around...
I fitted one of these to my brother in law's car the other day. Tested it with my diamond, but i expected it to be cross compatible.
Bit offtopic, but what's the advantage compared with a just as pricy parrot system?
Hi Y'all,
I am using my Diamond with the nokia CK-7W and it works fine as well. Paired up without much fuss....
Riel said:
Bit offtopic, but what's the advantage compared with a just as pricy parrot system?
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Eh.. none? I find the quality better compared to my old ck3300 parrot carkit. However, this one doesnt have a small lcd display or something. Not that I missed the lcd screen though, but sure was a nice feature.
Best thing about the parrot was that it's possible to put a new firmware on it. Could make them a little bit more 'future-proof'.
Nokia CK-7W with HTC Touch Diamond2, VITO VoiceDialer
Pairing the device was easy. In coming calls are working. Push on the carkit button and I can answer the call.
The problem that I have is that I can't do a voice call. If I push on the carkit button nothing happens. I would have expected that the VoiceDialer app would be started and I could make a voice call. The VoiceDialer app works without bluetooth.
Has anyone an idea how I get voice dialing working?
Remark:
With my pervious cell phone Motorola L6 was this possible. Pushed on the carkitt button, wait on the beep, say the name, when recognized it repeats the name and the number was dialed by the phone.
Ok, I really didnt know exactly what to put for the title of this because its a pretty strange request.
A little backbrief: I have a CarPC setup with a 7" touchscreen in my dash, a computer in the trunk, a bluetooth module, a microphone, runs through the car speakers, and running a front end called RoadRunner.
Basically what I'm looking for is:
1) The ability to call out and answer phone calls through the CarPC (full computer). - Using the RoadRunner program there are some interupts built in so that it will automatically stop the music and switch to a screen that has the phone "skin", but I'm not sure what it all entails to make that portion work yet.
2) It must connect through bluetooth
3) The ability to read through the phone's address book and/or store the phonebook in the CarPC.
4) Speach activation would be nice, but not a 100% must have necessarily
5) The ability to read/write text messages would also be nice, but not required
Essentially the skin should be similar to this link:
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/road...oadrunner.html
But the problem with that particular skin is that there is no support for WM devices, that is unless you have another piece of software called phonecontrol.net, but that software is now discontinued, so there's nothing for WM devices.
Now, I'm not asking someone on here to build something for me necessarily (even though that would be nice) but I am not sure what phone protocols there are to connect the bluetooth and use it, or if they are specific to the bluetooth adapters (bluesoiel, microsoft stack, etc) or if its all in the phone, and whatnot. I've got a good coding background, so its possible I can develop something, or modify something to work, but since there is a wealth of knowledge on this forum I figured someone on here might have some know how and ideas.
Thanks
So I would kill to have a windows mobile based car stereo all around - one that can benefit from regular rom updates and software made avialable for the platform. Example would be, say all the features of say the touch pro/ATT FUZE, with a built in amp and maybe dvd player attached to a 7" touchscreen...
It's not hard to get a screen that matches the resolution of the newer Touch pros at WVGA. The audio can be routed through a small amp - GPS is already built, so is mp3, attach bluetooth keyboard, bluetooth OBDII, FM Radio, etc etc. Not sure how the DVD would be wired in though
The core of my question is, do the touch screens used in cars like this one have the capability to work in this application
http://www.lilliputweb.net/ts629.html
It has a 4 wire resistive touch screen and wvga resolution...
Is it possible to somehow (even if dissassembly and hard wiring were an option) to get the output from the TP main board onto this display. I would imagine the signal strength from the TP is kinda low compared to the output from a computer so that might pose a problem, but i want to believe that at some point the required inputs of this screen for display are similar to those on the TP vga and the output from the TP display for touch screen functionality is similar to the out of the LCD display for touch screen functionality?
What do you guys think.
mattyv said:
So I would kill to have a windows mobile based car stereo all around - one that can benefit from regular rom updates and software made avialable for the platform. Example would be, say all the features of say the touch pro/ATT FUZE, with a built in amp and maybe dvd player attached to a 7" touchscreen...
It's not hard to get a screen that matches the resolution of the newer Touch pros at WVGA. The audio can be routed through a small amp - GPS is already built, so is mp3, attach bluetooth keyboard, bluetooth OBDII, FM Radio, etc etc. Not sure how the DVD would be wired in though
The core of my question is, do the touch screens used in cars like this one have the capability to work in this application
http://www.lilliputweb.net/ts629.html
It has a 4 wire resistive touch screen and wvga resolution...
Is it possible to somehow (even if dissassembly and hard wiring were an option) to get the output from the TP main board onto this display. I would imagine the signal strength from the TP is kinda low compared to the output from a computer so that might pose a problem, but i want to believe that at some point the required inputs of this screen for display are similar to those on the TP vga and the output from the TP display for touch screen functionality is similar to the out of the LCD display for touch screen functionality?
What do you guys think.
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Check out this site if you haven't already. I have been looking to do this for a LONG time.
http://store.mp3car.com/
Having a touch screen in-dash video screen which could connect to a windows phone, and somehow "tap into" the touch-sensitive controls of the phone would be a dream. I currently use a touch pro and I have a pioneer in-dash dvd/cd player which is a touch screen. I also have the video out cable for the touch pro and use it to watch slingbox in the car as well as use the phones gps. I constantly find myself touching the screen to control the phones functions with no success as the cable only sends the video and audio into the composite input, it’s such a hard habit to break! I’m sure eventually the phone will be fully integrated, I guess until then all we can do is dream.
No way to do it without a carputer. No way to hook a touch screen display directly to the TP.
Even with a carputer, the closest you'll get to touch screen capability is using MyMobiler (or similar) and it will be laggy as hell. You could connect the video/audio from the TP to the monitor, but there's no way to get touch screen working.
If you want to use the phone as stereo, just get 3.5mm -> RCA adapters and hook it into your CD player's AUX input.
Using a TP in the manner the OP stated is way over complicating things. Just get a carputer and be done with it.
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Most of the features will work through PAN, so you wouldn't have to touch the phone at all.
The idea I had, was to have wireless in the carputer and just transfer the songs I wanted from my pc to the car. I would have wake on lan enabled, so the pc wasn't running all the time. Plus, there are soft, shutdown modules if the voltage gets too low.
There is a ton of possibilites, and if you are good at programming, microsoft has the sdk available for sync.
Also, I have a lot of internal contacts for stereo equipment, for high-end. Usually 40%-60% off retail.
Imagine getting a better subwoofer than the JL audio W7 for half the price