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MDA2 Carkit is silent after upgrading ROM

Hi,
I've got a problem with my carkit (O2 XDA-Carkit) after I upgrade to the new ROM-Version of T-Mobile (1.60).
With the old Rom-Version, the carkit works as a loadspeaker for all kind of sound. The voice-instructions from tomtom for example, came out of the carkit-speaker loud and clearly. Each kind of sound, the device made, came out of the speaker of the carkit.
Now, after upgrading to the new ROM, only the telephone works with the speaker of the carkit. With Incoming or outgoing calls I can use the carkit as usual...the speaker works and the mikro works also. But every other sound (e.g. tomtom voice-instructions) came direktly out of the speaker of the mda2 in a poor quality.
Some hints, how I could use my carkit again as a speaker for all kind of sound without goinig back to the old ROM ?
Any other kind of hints...maybe to use a bluetooth headset therefor (so that all kind of sound came out of the headset....not only telephone...I've got a Plantronics Headset...but also only the telephone works)
thx for help
best regards
rob.

Yep.......I have the same problem here.......don't know why they changed settings on the handsfree profile here.
Another thing you will find out is that the charging is very slow on the XDA carkit with the XDA II. If you run TomTom, Yeti and a bright screen the xda II will not charge, but drain!!
It has something to do with the wiring of the interface, but unless someone will come up with a solution I will go for a new carkit or a BT solution. (It's a bloody shame though it doesn't work properly with the XDA carkit! :evil: )

Hi,
the charging-problem is also a mess.
I think, the problem is only the GPS-driver from tomtom. In my tests, only when the GPS-driver is loaded, the battery-power goes down. With stopping the GPS-driver, the battery will charge again, but only, if the battery-power is more than about 75 - 80%.
If the battery is less than 75%, it will not charge at all, even if, there is no App runnung and the screen is off.
You said, you will go for a new carkit or bluetooth-solution. Do you know a carkit or bluetooth-solution, wich offers the feature, that all sounds (tomtom instuctions...etc.) came out of a loadspeaker or thru a headset (without connecting the wired headphone ;-)
As far as I know, at the moment all devices works only with the telephone-funktion....
best regards
rob.

Same here,
i have build my own carkit, and have put ground to pin 19,
sound was normally going though the connector to my car stereo
now it doenst anymore :evil:
I am sure this isnt a hardware thing it is software
could be the settings on the handsfree profile. on the xda2...
this is very very frustrating. just being finished with my carkit and now i cant use it anymore
also you cant set the phone to speakermode anymore..

I am sure this isnt a hardware thing it is software
could be the settings on the handsfree profile. on the xda2...
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Does anybody know how to change this back?

I found that the registry points to a certain file in your windows directory: HandsFree_Dll.dll
(I found this here: HKLM\Services\Handsfree)
Can someone with the old 1.03 ROM please upload this file so i can try if this solves the problem...
TIA,
Max

Akira, Max :
I am building my own car kit, and have no success.
I do not obtain audio out with or without grounding pin 19.
I'm running Rom 1.60.00WWE.
Did you solve your problem ??

I must correct my last update.
I obtain audio when in phone mode, but not during playing waves or TomTom directions. Even Ring Tones do not go out trough the bottom connector.
So is it a software problem ?
Can it be corrected ?

Problems with Plantronics M3000 and QTEK 2020

I have bought a Plantronics M3000 bluetooth headset for my QTEK 2020. I have no problems pairing, calling and answering. However the headset just shuts off after a few minutes of conversation. It doesn't just cut the conversation but shuts off. I can make multiple short calls but nothing longer than 3/4 minutes. It works, however, without problems on my wife's Ericsson T68. Anyone can help ? Thanks.
Marek

Hello,
I have the MDA2 (same as QTek2020) and a Plantronics M3000 and It's been working just fine.
The problem you describe it's very weird since you mentioned that the headset works fine with your wife's mobile, and that makes me think that your QTek has some sort of problem with the Bluetooth stack or hardware.
It may be well worth to try (if possible) another headset just to make sure that is not the M3000 fault.
Do you see any type of error or message on the screen at the time of disconnection?
Does it always cut the conversation at the exact same moment?
Does the problem match the time the QTek takes to power save?
Any other clues?

Thanks.
I did not have the occasion to test another BT headset on the Qtek. When it shuts down there isn't any message displayed.
I have no problems with the BT stack (with the Pocket Bluetooth Tools patch) when using it with a BT GPS (Emtac) receiver, it works for hours.
However, your suggestion that it might happen when the Qtek goes in energy saving mode is interesting. I will check that tomorrow.
I'll post the result.

Hi
I seem to have a similar poblem after installing pocket bluetooth tools!.
I use a Jabra BT 250..and I noticed that the headset just mutes during the call..
I am generally used to switching off the display of the XDA after placing the call to power save ...
So I discovered that the headset would mute whenever i switch off the xda after making the call (which it never did prior to installing PBT)!
any thoughts on that?
maybe it has to do with the auto switch off plugin?

Actually I just experienced that too...
If I place (or answer a call) the next time I try to use the phone via the BT headset I notice the BT headset was turned off... Yeah, it could be related to the Powersave feature on the today plugin that PBT installs as a plugin... :roll:
Need to investigate...
Best regards,
Rayan

Both my bt headsets have stopped working since installing pocket bluetooth tools latest version, I have reverted back to version 1005 and everything is fine. I have a sony-ericsson EBH-65 and a skypower clip on headset.

my platronics does the same also its annoying you cant even transfer the call back to the device you have to hand up turn off bt and then turn it abck on and headset mode back on it also does the same on my pc
when im on msn using it as a headset it just d/c and i have to turn it off and turn it back on again
dont see what the problem is
btw the range on the xda2 and platronics is amazing i had it on my bedrooms desk and i went outside it passed through the living room wall and the patio window and i was stood 5m down my garden im sure it would of been over 10m and it was still working if i kept still when i moved it went crackly but ah well lol
just hope someone sorts the prob out

Hi,
I was having the same problem with the M3000. I just had confirmation from Plantronics that this problem is a bug in the product that occurs with the XDA II. I am currently in the process of returning the product.
Regards...Mike

Same problem M3000 doesn't work. Give up now before too much frustration makes you feel ill.
Try the Hello 2 headset. Work with my Aussie XDA2 and is very small and lightweight. Even had a neck chain to carry it around like a USB drive.

Parrot CK3300 BT car Kit

I have tried searching the forums and can't find much Info.
Is anybody here using the above system for telephony & GPS; If so how do they intergrate/do they work well on the XDA II (I have ROM Version 1.72 with Radio1.17)
I Know about the headset profile probs not giving full functionality of the Handsfree use of the car kit but this doesn't bother me to much as long as I can Make and receive calls.
Thanks in anticipation!

I was going to get a CK3100, but heard so many problems regarding build quality, and lack of support, I got a HCB 30 instead.
It did not help when I tried to e-mail parrot for advice and 3 different e-mail adresses bounced back.

Works Perfect!
Just had the CK3300 installed today and it works perfectly - I Knew some of the functions didn't work because the XDA2 only supports headset profile but once you have transferred your contacts to the kit via bluetooth it works well.
Also the GPS works well with CoPilot 5 live; it picked up the signal straight away ; well pleased with this set up!!

same to me have the ck3300 tested with qtek2020 - works fine. problems with 9090 but after bluetooth update now it works fine. No tests with S100 at this time.
tested GPS with destinator 3 and map&guide fleet navigator and mobileobjects fleet management system.
don't use bluetooth tools after Rom 1.66 :!: CK3x00 didn't work aber installation of this

Set up
Just had the CK3300 installed today and it works perfectly - I Knew some of the functions didn't work because the XDA2 only supports headset profile but once you have transferred your contacts to the kit via bluetooth it works well.
Also the GPS works well with CoPilot 5 live; it picked up the signal straight away ; well pleased with this set up!!
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Any tips on setting up the CK3300 with my XDA2?
Just had the car kit fitted - i need both nav and handsfree functions - but i am not sure that i have got the phone and ck3300 to bond properly. So everything is 'greyed out' on the parrot.
Using ROM 1.72.00WWE (1.72.181) and radio 1.17.00
Thanks for any help received.

If everything is greyed out then it isn't bonded properly!
Step 1
Delete the pairings you have from XDA2 and car Kit;
Step 2
On the car kit turn the control knob untill settings appear- then scroll to 'Advanced Settings' - 'pairing a telephone' - 'windows CE device'
Step 3
Now search for devices using your XDA2 and the car kit should be shown.
Step 4
Enter passcode 1234 and accept headset and serial profiles when shown.
PAIRING COMPLETE
to access your phonebook you need to transfere the contacts via bluetooth to the car kit.
Hope this helps

XDA2 CK3300
Managed to get the GPS set up (fiddling with COM ports - even imbeciles strike lucky sometimes)
Some items are now in black. However, I am not sure that I have done it right as I cannot get it to use my phone to make calls or receive them. Which is exactly why I bought it in the first place.
So, please (please please) can you tell me how to exchange my phonebook?
I am going to sit in the car right now and have a go at your bonding advice...maybe all will become clear (but that is not often my experience!)
Thanks again for your help.

You need to bond the phones in the manner I described or it will not work ; this is clearly ststed in the Parrot instructions and on their website.
(I have noticed a strong correlation between people who do not read instructions and complain things do not work!!) - Joke

You also need to make sure your headset profile is active on the XDA 2 for it to work. Again reading the instructions for the phonebook - you tap and hold a contact on the XDA2 and select 'beam contact' - 'via bluetooth' the bluetooth search then comes up and the car kit will be found you then 'tap to send'

Now i have the opposite problem!
Believe it or not, I have now got the XDA2 and the CK3300 bonding automatically so I can make and receive calls whilst driving. It works pretty well (occasionally makes an awful noise, but only occasionally). I am impressed.
However, once I had done that, the GPS is undetectable. I have tried all sorts of combinations. I have checked the instructions - and selected the long code (ends in 9600) but I am not certain that I am using the right com port. I have tried most of them without success.
Oddly, this is the one thing that WAS working before I got the car kit to work (for calls). Somehow, either I have lost the right settings OR the XDA2 won't do both (although I read somewhere that it would) OR my ROM needs updating (uh?)
Please help.
BTW, I am due a phone upgrade - I love the xda2 but would consider getting another phone if necessary, if anyone can recommend one that is fully CK3300 and TomTom compatible.

I don't use Tom Tom myself but from reading these forums I think you need to install the patch on their website to allow Tom Tom to use the correct Port .
Your Car Kit also needs it's software updating if it makes a noise like you say. On the Car Kit go to > settings-advanced settings-information and you will find the software version (sounds like 4.03) if it makes a noise. The latest on the Parrot website is 4.10b and this will fix the noise issue.
If you need help installing this let me know.
The best Phone is surprisingly the Old Fashioned Nokia 6310i - it has a good bluetooth stack and uses the handsfree profile rather than the headset so contacts sync automatically but if you require live traffic info best stick with what you got as the Nokia will not pair with the XDAII and the car kit at same time.

Which COM port?
For the moment, I have a temporary solution.
However, I have updated the TomTom Navigator software and the GPS, but still don't know which port the GPS in the CK3300 should be connected to.
Any ideas?
And, thanks Nikpro for the excellent help so far - you are a true altruist and a star!

The outbound port on the xdaII is port 5 by default
On XDAII go to Settings - System tab - Bluetooth settings and make sure you check the tick box for outbound COM port.
There is also a chance you have deleted your serial port profile so tap on the bluetooth icon in the Today Screen and go to bonded devices. Select the CK3300 and delete partnership (do not delete pairing from car kit end!)
Then search for new devices from the XDAII and the CK3300 will again come up; create a new partenship and everything should be good.

Still having problems
Oddly, I still cannot use the GPS on the CK3300.
I am using my old TomTom at the moment for GPS and the CK3300 for headset - which works fine, but I wanted the CK3300 to do both.
When I try and reset the GPS to the (series of numbers ending in 9600) as stated in the info and the instructions (Nikpro, take note - I have read them - but your comment made me laugh), the TomTom just 'freezes'. Wait - and wait - and wait - and when it reincarnates itself, no GPS at all.
I am using the 1.72.00WWE rom and radio 1.17.00
I think that I have tried every permutation for the COM port.
Has anyone any ideas? Please?

When you initially pair your XDA to the car kit do you get a message about serial connection show on the screen? The problem must be with the tom tom software as with copilot and mapopolis it works fine? or the way you are pairing the two!
What software version is the car kit? PLEASE DESCRIBE HOW YOU ARE PAIRING THE DEVICES??

Hi all, 1st post and all that.
Have you tried falshing the parrot with the newest rom, mine picked up enough to make and recieve call, but i flashed my xdaII with 2.02.T1WWE this morning and it works even better.
Hope you get a result

nikpro said:
I don't use Tom Tom myself but from reading these forums I think you need to install the patch on their website to allow Tom Tom to use the correct Port .
Your Car Kit also needs it's software updating if it makes a noise like you say. On the Car Kit go to > settings-advanced settings-information and you will find the software version (sounds like 4.03) if it makes a noise. The latest on the Parrot website is 4.10b and this will fix the noise issue.
If you need help installing this let me know.
The best Phone is surprisingly the Old Fashioned Nokia 6310i - it has a good bluetooth stack and uses the handsfree profile rather than the headset so contacts sync automatically but if you require live traffic info best stick with what you got as the Nokia will not pair with the XDAII and the car kit at same time.
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Use Bluetooth tools www.bluetooth.jazztel.es
and edit the registry under hkey local machine, builtin, BTIBserial, rename BTIBserial.dll into BTIOBserial.dll
and go Start, Settings, System, Bluetooth settings and check both inbound and outbound.
Delete ALL paired devices, reboot, and re pair them.
You will now have an option for two serial ports, one for each device.
This is the only way to do it if you have two devices that need a serial port. If you have a third, you are SOL.
Normally, the stupid programmers who made the MS BT program, made it so it only had one dynamic port for BT. Some people would experience having to reboot before switching BT devices, most would have to re pair every dam time.
The new 2005 does not have this problem but it has other bugs.
They smart people at MS changed the databases so Mapopolis and other third party programs can not read the contacts or have other bugs with them. Plus the 2005 version here limits your memory.
The 2.02 - 2.06 will NOT work with Hands Free and most car kits need it and if you have caller ID via BT, you are SOL too.
The 2.20 is a stable and a good OS and the Hands free works much better. The down side is, when I get a call on the call waiting, even if I did not answer, it would disconnect the BT headset and no sound through the phone too. I would have to, click on Tools, Hands Free off, tools Hands
Free on before it would work. I have lost many clients this way.
I decided to disable call waiting in the phone settings and it only has a few bugs now like I have to turn off and then back on the BT headset after ever call or it would revert to Headset mode.
The caller ID will not display if the call is in the history of my BT headset or if it is in my contacts database.
I mention my BT headset because it is like a car system when used in Hands free mode.
Good luck, let me know if you have any trouble now.

Parrot 3100 with XDA II
Hello,
I have just put in a Parrot 3100 and it works fine as a handsfree phone.
is there any way when I am not in the car though to use my Jabra 250v headset without rebonding and selecting it as the preferred headset device?
I can't seem to switch between the Parrot and the Jabra when the other one is not in use without repairing.
Thanks for any advice

BT
Try turning of one and turning on the other and soft reset..

Ok, I have just spent my entire weekend trying to get my Qtek 9090 to communicate to my newly installed Parrot CK3300 (with GPS). I have read the manual about 3 times from beginning to end, know the whole website parrot.biz by hard (ugly site BTW), and have tried about everything in configuring, but with no success so far.
Initially I had the 2 devices paired to each other, but after I installed Tom Tom 3, it is impossible for me to get them to pair again. Nevertheless, the 2 devices "see" each other (when asked in "Linked devices"), but they can not get to communicate. From all the stuff I have read on forums and sites, it seems that I need to upgrade my Bluetooth version, but I have no idea how and where to start this procedure.
Can anyone help me out here ?
Any tips are welcome !

Jabra BT-800 not working w Qtek 2020 WM2003SE

I bought the Jabra BT-800 headset for 119 EUR and was hoping to enjoy the headset w/o getting my PPC out of my pocketst.
Well that didnt work out. Pairing was easy, and after switching on the headset (in profile on today screen) I could call with it. The only thing is, I cannot get the call list on the headset to work. It doesnt show any numbers at all, and i wonder how its supposed to work anyway.
That being said, I also don't get to see who's calling me when using the headset.
1) Incoming call.... PPC rings..
2) After a few seconds the headset backlight switches on showing "Jabra BT-800" (standard text). I do not get to see who's calling me on my headset.
3) When listening to the ring tone on headset, after a second or two I get a really annoying sqreaking sound and that stays on till I accept the call or hang up.
So it is not working for me. Besides the headset does not stay on my ear correctly. I have small ears and it is really uncomfortable.
I have Qtek 2020 with Windows Mobile 2003 SE ROM (downloaded from this forum), ROM version 2.06.00WWE, Radio 1.18.00, Protocol 1337.38, ExtROM 2.06.100a
The Jabra BT-800 does not do what they say it's supposed to do.
Anyone else got these problems or solutions? Ciao
R.

me too
Same problem... They say it is also capable of BT voice dialing. I hate the way it takes so long to answer calls.
I am going to find out if the sony ericson ones work.. Then get that. The reception on the BT800 is great though.

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dewild1 said:
Same problem... They say it is also capable of BT voice dialing. I hate the way it takes so long to answer calls.
I am going to find out if the sony ericson ones work.. Then get that. The reception on the BT800 is great though.
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Lucky you to get that far :evil:
After the upgrade to the Diamond 1.2 I have tried to bond my Bluespoon Digital. That was very easy and everything works fine, exept a call not is trasferred to the headset. I have tried both stacks, and I have tried it with the Sony Ericsson HBH 65. It simply doesn't work at all.
Does anybody have suggestions to what to do??

bluetooth headset not bonding
:lol:
Hi , I had smae problem with new I.Tech clip headset.
It's ok now as I downloaded the POcket Bluetotth Tools from this link:
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
Now it's ok for incoming and outgoing calls...
Cheers..
Fingers

Persnickety Bluetooth
Thanks for the link!
I had a problem with my Jabra BT250 after the WM upgrade. The mic and speaker remained active on the device, and the earpeice on my headset was active, but not the headset mic. The BT Tools did the trick.
Thanks

Jabra BT800 & XDA ii
Hi there,
The Jabra BT800 isnt compatable with the XDA ii (check www.jabra.com)
I owned this headset and had exactly the same problems, i now own the Jabra BT200 and it works perfectly

The BT800 needs a phone with bluetooth handsfree profile to be able to use the advanced features like caller id. Xda II as standard has only bluetooth headset profile.
I'm not sure about the 2003SE rom some of you guys are using, but I've tried it with the Buzz WM2K5 rom (thanks buzz et al) and this DOES give it the bluetooth handsfree profile it needs.
BUT...
It seems Jabra's idea of caller id is to only pass the number across, and not the name. So for those of us that don't have a photographic memory its pretty useless. This isn't restricted to Xda's either. I tried a couple of Nokia phones that are 'compatible' according to www.jabra.com and these do exactly the same. Number shows on the jabra screen but no name, even though the phone is showing both.
I emailed Jabra about it and they acknowledge it is an issue. They also tell me there is an issue with numbers in international format in that they fail to pass the + sign across, so you can't ring out from the call list.
JD

Ya need 2.20 translated to have a working Hands Free profile.. BT800 needs hands free profile.
Caller ID still only displays if the number is a virgin to your system.. I think HBH662 will work with 2.20.
2005 may work with no problems too.

S710 (vox) bluetooth carkit probs

I received my shiny new S710 today (replacing my imate sp5) i am having terrible problems with bluetooth and my car kit (Parrot Ck3100 with latest sortware) The phone connects and syncs ok but disconnects after a few mins and refuses to connect again.
I have an old motorola h605 headset that shows similar problems of not connecting or dropping the connection.
The Ck3100 kit has worked faultlessly with my imate sp5 for the last year.
Has anyone else had any problems with headsets or car kits?!
I have done a hard reset on the S710 and have nothing installed, and also disconnected the power to the CK3100 for 1/2 an hour before attempting to re setup the pairing
iain

Nokia CK7W
On a similar note, while my Vodafone V1415 works with my Nokia CK7W, I cannot end a call by pressing the button. Last number redial (two presses) and Hold or something like it (press and hold) are OK. To be fair, the CK7W is a little dated, but has proven to be fine with both Blue Angel and Hermes.
On the plus side the audio is good, without any echo for the remote caller.

Nokia CK-7W and S710
As with the Qtek 9100, the S710 seems not to operate soomthly with the NOKIA carkit CK-7w. I have to turn volume up to 100% and the sound from the speaker is still rather quite. The person i am calling is complaining that the line is not perfect. So for me it is back to the standard corded earpiece.
So any tips using the CK-7W and vox succesfully together are welcome!

@mcroonen
It's strange that I don't have the same experience as you. What version is your software? Compare with mine in my signature. I'm afraid I can't offer any suggestions, it seems to be pot luck! Maybe we find some variations in the radio stacks that will sort this out.

further to this i managed to borrow a e650 (vox) from work and it worked 100% with my car kit and tomtom and laptop!
I spoke to htc who said they had tested with the parrot ck3100 and said it worked 100%, as my phone was struggling to be detected by several devices and also struggling to detect other things that they recomended getting it replaced.
Spoke to handtech who said they would replace asap

jbn said:
@mcroonen
It's strange that I don't have the same experience as you. What version is your software? Compare with mine in my signature. I'm afraid I can't offer any suggestions, it seems to be pot luck! Maybe we find some variations in the radio stacks that will sort this out.
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@jbn
KPN
OS: 5.2.1235 (Build 17740.0.2.0)
ROM: 1.15.405.2
Radio: 4.1.12.37_02.83.90

I had problems whith the sound quality and people not hearing me well.
For me it helped to delete the registry settings for the nokia ck-7w
It's under software/htc not sure if it was in LM or CU. I think LM.
Good luck

Had the same problem. Qtek8310 was working fine, S710 not. After a reset of the Parrot also the S710 is working fine.

aage said:
I had problems whith the sound quality and people not hearing me well.
For me it helped to delete the registry settings for the nokia ck-7w
It's under software/htc not sure if it was in LM or CU. I think LM.
Good luck
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Unfortenately deleting the settings introduces echo and noise (voice sounds like robot). I think S710 and Nokis Ck-7w are not made for eachother.
I will try using the Parrot 3100 as on alternative BT solution..

Parrot CK3300 GPS CAR KIT
I have the Parrot CK3300 GPS CAR KIT and no problems at all with my S710, works a dream

Parrot
Hi,
You should visit http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/downloads
and get the latest software for your Parrot. You will need a bluetooth enabled laptop or to get your bluetooth enabled PC near your car!
Flash your parrot, then connect choosing a windows CE device. It will fully sync your phonebook too.
I use the Orange E650 and connect to my Holux GPS receiver and Parrot 3100 at the same time with no problems at all.
cheers
Sinet2020

JETware
See this thread for a possible solution for the Nokia CK7W!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331096