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I HATE RapidShare, etc...

So I've setup my own server... err, modified it a bit to allow registered users to upload and download free.
Here's a link to Dutty's TouchFlo ROM for the Tilt from Nov. 29th.
http://gormanonline.com/files/folders/roms/entry575.aspx
I have a 15/2 connection so it should be "decent" speed. The server is slow though so tell me what you think.
Registration is required simply to prevent spam. I should only require your name, username and a password - simple.
All you ROM hackers, give it a try.
Greg Gorman
http://gormanonline.com

thanks...rapidshare is disgusting me, be it is easy if you download rarely and such

GregGorman said:
So I've setup my own server... err, modified it a bit to allow registered users to upload and download free.
Here's a link to Dutty's TouchFlo ROM for the Tilt from Nov. 29th.
http://gormanonline.com/files/folders/roms/entry575.aspx
I have a 15/2 connection so it should be "decent" speed. The server is slow though so tell me what you think.
Registration is required simply to prevent spam. I should only require your name, username and a password - simple.
All you ROM hackers, give it a try.
Greg Gorman
http://gormanonline.com
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Thanks man I will give it a try. You should also put on there XDA and Custel's ROM.

I never understood why people use Rapidshare and Megaupload when there are far better services. Like Mediafire for instance.

Mediafire sounds great to me. Is there profit sharing on the other sites?

what about that uploadto.com or something where you are not limited to 1 file per hour or something.

alltheway said:
Thanks man I will give it a try. You should also put on there XDA and Custel's ROM.
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They're up there now.

Host Roms on Torrents

I'm sure almost all of you will agree with me when i say rapidshare sucks! and by rapidshare I also mean the rest of the rapidshare-like sites (4sites, mediafire, megaupload, etc) ... and its a pain to use them to download roms, especially if there are multiple version roms (lite, full, cube, etc) and you want to get more than one (I'm not cheap or anything, but if I have to give money to download the files [referring to websites' premium account, etc], I'd rather donate the money to the rom-cookers for their hard work)
and I think most of us are familiar with torrents by now ... I searched the forum, and i don't think it has been suggested or brought up before ... but how about having a torrent setup for the roms ...
There are a lot of people (including me ) who are willing to help and share as much as possible ... ideas/comments/suggestions ?
p.s. I hope this isn't against any rules ... correct me if I'm wrong

Well, the problem with torrents is that they have to be on all day or at least until they get an ample amount of seeders so they can stop hosting it. There is a lot of people that have a limited connection and that would make it worse. For those of us who have good internet connections, and can host torrents, then this would be a good idea, but some people cant. Unless they get help from people who have good internet connections.

I've posted most of the files on my site..
http://f1ip.net/Downloads/KaiserFiles
.. and torrent sucks.

I wouldnt download these from a torrent, or anyone elses site other than the authors published links.
How do I know you haven't tampered with it prior to uploading it??
Maybe if the cooks list the MD5 for each release, then I *might* be tempted.

What if xda-devs set up a private tracker?
My torrent client is always running on my pc at home only for private trackers. its not worth having a bunch of leachers and hit and runners if they were hosted on public torrent sites.

f1ip said:
I've posted most of the files on my site..
http://f1ip.net/Downloads/KaiserFiles
.. and torrent sucks.
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I like torrents but still... here my link to the files.... see my signiture:

guys ... use 4shared.com ... no wait ... 5gb ... only max 100mb file limit!

If I am at home well supported torrents are MUCH faster. I think torrents would be a great idea and an MD5 is easy enough to generate.
4shared.com is one of my favorite download sites used on here. It works well when I am at work or on someone else's network that doesn't have the ports set up for bittorrent. But I have never seen the speeds from 4shared.com that I get from bittorrent.
I have flashed a LOT of roms on the forums and the worst thing for me is when rapidshare says "Wait another hour to download". I can tell you that I would seed the ROMs
Just my 2 cents

why
My internet sucks, my wife is always angry that I am here and not talking to her, personally I would like for you all to only host files any place that the cook would like. Really it is up to them. This is a good idea though.
This way I can stare at XDA even longer waiting for the new rom to be placed on my phone.
tilt
Rom..dualtouch v4
radio 1.27.15.32
8525
gave to my wife
now it is a cute paper wait

No torrents for me. I tried downloading a previous ROM from one and it took two hours versus a very quick download with the free rapidshare or megaupload...
(384K DSL)

Just about anything other than rapidshare is better. Latest ones I've used are 2shared.com and 4shared.com. Also Sendspace isn't too bad.
I used to put roms up on Torrents via piratebay and had a box that I left online to seed them. Problem was I saw people pulling, but nobody else was seeding. So the only way torrents will work is if you get others that are willing to pull and share, and not just pull.

why cant you post it on usenet and make a nzb file out of it so anyone can download it fast with grabbit or something and just post the nzb file here thatway people like mfrazzz dont have to seed endlessly and everyone can download the rom fast

dazzle999 said:
why cant you post it on usenet and make a nzb file out of it so anyone can download it fast with grabbit or something and just post the nzb file here thatway people like mfrazzz dont have to seed endlessly and everyone can download the rom fast
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I second this idea!
It's been a while since I patroled the NNTP servers... is there an appropriate group for posting these type of files?

start a new group alt.binairies.xda.kaiser??? for our roms or alt.binairies.xda for all roms posted on this site like the ftp sever before microsoft bashed it
use this forum for nzb posting and the usenet for all the pars and rars so people only need to install a newsreader and download a nzb file not search for all the pars rars manually
keep the acces to the usenet group closed for cookers only so that not anyone can subscribe to the group
the only thing the cookers have to do is upload the file's to the group and create a nzb post it in the forum and everyone is happy

I think torrents are much better idea.
But the tracker should be in xda site and accessible only to registered members of the forum.
If everyone will keep the golden rule of 1.1 ratio, then there are no problems and It will be much better that all free upload sites. rAPIDHSARE sux...
Whatever the case is I think its worth a try...

Great Idea! Also, have a point system based on the ip you use most on here, so when ever you don do your share you loss points and a certain amount of points is required to download certain things! If you cant seed for certian reasons then you will be the excpetion? Eh, good idea?

dazzle999 said:
start a new group alt.binairies.xda.kaiser??? for our roms or alt.binairies.xda for all roms posted on this site like the ftp sever before microsoft bashed it
use this forum for nzb posting and the usenet for all the pars and rars so people only need to install a newsreader and download a nzb file not search for all the pars rars manually
keep the acces to the usenet group closed for cookers only so that not anyone can subscribe to the group
the only thing the cookers have to do is upload the file's to the group and create a nzb post it in the forum and everyone is happy
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Chainfire already did this, it didn't take off at all and it's been a link on the wiki for quite some time now. http://www.jongma.org/xda-nzb/

~~Tito~~ said:
Great Idea! Also, have a point system based on the ip you use most on here, so when ever you don do your share you loss points and a certain amount of points is required to download certain things! If you cant seed for certian reasons then you will be the excpetion? Eh, good idea?
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Torrents, a bunch of mirrors, mirrored mirrors and all sorts of things have been discussed in the past. None of them got past the talk stage. If/when they have, they've been completely *OWNED* by the bandwidth usage.
There are hundreds of people downloading these files and you'll be lucky to have a 100:1 ratio for seeding vs. downloading. That means that everyone will get around 2KB/s each, 7x to 21x slower than the typical 15 to 45KB/s download from RapidShare or MegaUpload.

_Alex_ said:
Torrents, a bunch of mirrors, mirrored mirrors and all sorts of things have been discussed in the past. None of them got past the talk stage. If/when they have, they've been completely *OWNED* by the bandwidth usage.
There are hundreds of people downloading these files and you'll be lucky to have a 100:1 ratio for seeding vs. downloading. That means that everyone will get around 2KB/s each, 7x to 21x slower than the typical 15 to 45KB/s download from RapidShare or MegaUpload.
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Torrents are really only good for 1gb files and up.

Torrents would work fine if it was done on a credits-based system with a private tracker (private meaning you must create an account, not invite only - could be tied together w/forum accounts)
The tracker would enforce at least a 1:1 ratio beyond the first 'free' download, and in the case a torrent gets orphaned the tracker could also hold a local mirror of the files, so when seeds becomes < 1, it kicks on as a seed and finishes at least one person off to keep the torrent alive..
As far as torrents being only really good for 1gb files and up, that holds true for public torrents, but on a private credit based system, arbitrary sizes work fine
Plus people in general have a fixation with making a number grow larger and larger, so a credit-based system has it's own built in motivational driver. It's the basis for most video games out there! (score, xp, level, etc!) You could even give each forum user a special icon or access to a custom tagline, etc. depending on their current level of credits, for another motivational driver to keep seeding up.

JF cupcake mirrors needed (no, its not out yet, but will be)

Thanks everyone, I no longer need any more mirrors. I think we have enough (or too many) right now.

More than happy to offer hosting space and bandwidth. I'm on an unmetered line on my own hardware in a good datacenter, I'd be happy to host it for you...

Great. if you can provide an ftp to an empty folder I will upload the file when I get it. If not you can just pm me when you get the file hosted and I will add it to the list. Whatever works best for you.

When the official cupcake drops will it automatically update to that OTA if you are on 1.43 or would you be stuck until you ran the JF Cupcake update?
Just wondering. I will check with my host and see how much bandwidth I am allotted (I just switched hosts).

Darkrift said:
I was just thinking and reading threads about the much anticipated JF cupcake image that will surely be coming any day now. I checked cyrket and found 5,000-10,000 users are using JFupdater which will use a TON of my hosting bandwidth. I am hoping to get a list of users early who can help mirror this update. Keep in mind, this is going to require immense bandwidth and speed for about a week. Please do not offer if you are unsure if your server can handle it because it will just fail and stress the rest of the servers.
The update is not ready yet and I do not have a date, but I would like to get a preemptive handle on the issue before it does so all users can get their cupcake ASAP. Keep in mind, my hosting used up 800 gigs of bw in one week when JF released 1.43, and I expect a much larger turnout for this rom. Also, if you are able to provide me an ftp to upload the image when I get it that would be great, but not expected. Thanks in advance.
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I too am able to provide a mirror for you.

I have a silly question/suggestion
why don't you use a free file hosting service such as rapidshare and megaupload ?

I have slow international upload (1mbit) but i am on guaranteed channel (a.k.a business account) and have no bandwidth or simultaneous connections limit. The server is rock stable. If you think that such a slow connection can help please reply me and i will provide an ftp account for the update.

Nayyak said:
I have a silly question/suggestion
why don't you use a free file hosting service such as rapidshare and megaupload ?
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Rapidshare and megaupload don't allow you to provide direct links to the file (at least I don't think they do), and he's needing direct links in order to let JF Updater use them as mirrors. BUT, I *think* drop.io does let you copy and send the direct link. I think I have done it...its been a while. I'll test it out.

Nope. Doesn't work. They time-out after a minute or so.

I can offer 1tb of transfer to this project, 100mbit .us link

I can offer some bandwidth as well

I can put it in my public dropbox folder on getdropbox.com if you want. I tested it out, and it will work. here's a link: https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1034365/Top%20Secret.txt
can someone verify?

Sure ...
We have unlimited bandwidth on our own VPS with 1&1. We will be glad to offer to be a mirrow.
Feel free to contact me:
Brent Johnson
[email protected]

i say great. there is a lot of space availible. so let the build come

You might want to delay the automatic update for a few days (if not a week). Let the people who really want the update do so manually (via rapidshare,etc.) and then the traffic consumed but the JFUpdater crowd will have diminished significantly.

You can use the mirror off my site (androidevolve.com)

isn't this one of the use cases bittorrent solves best?

More than likely, yes, bittorrent would be a good idea for these. Just so long as there's a true or truely mirrored torrent, and not force us to go searching on TPB or a site like that.

I have plent of space available on htcsource.com, just send me the file when ready and I'll send you back the link.

I can offer up some mirror space on a 10mb link us co-location. Send a PM if its still needed.

ROM makers: Want a different host for your files?

For the last 6 months I've been hosting files for developers in the Eris section. I made the site to people wouldn't have to use all that MultiUpload crap, got sick of the waiting 60 seconds to download a file, entering a verification code, etc etc.
Anyways, the site's worked well. You can direct link to your files, upload everything via a simple web interface.
I just thought I'd offer the site to developers in other forums now.
http://android.grdlock.net
Anyways, if you're interested in using it to host your files, just make a username on the site real quick, shoot me a PM, and I'll give it upload permissions.
And no, this isn't an advertisement or anything. People in the Eris section have just liked using the website over MultiUpload, so I thought I'd offer to let other people use my bandwidth as well.

I can jump in on this as well - I have unlimited bandwidth so if you need another mirror, let me know and ill set you up on my server.

[Q] Why do many developers host their products on spammy file hosting sites?

My question might be a bit biased since my experience is limited to Sony forums, but nonetheless I was quite surprised to see many APKs, scripts, and ROMs hosted on some weird sites that make you wait for up to a minute, limit the number of attempts to download the file, have unblockable pop-ups, and try to upsell you their premium subscriptions that would have none of that. There are plenty of free, reliable ways to host software projects: e.g., BitBucket, GitHub, and Google Code - and all of them have quite simple functions to host downloadable packages.
Is it because devs get some commissions if anyone signs up for the premium download service? Or because they don't know how to use the other features of code and repository hosting websites? Or because they don't want to expose their source code? Or is it something else?

I always use Google Drive or Dev-Host because those sites provide me total control over the files I upload
other are websites that pay them per visitor

Revontheus said:
I always use Google Drive or Dev-Host because those sites provide me total control over the files I upload
other are websites that pay them per visitor
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Dev-Host is actually my #1 most hated site. They have 3 download buttons, of which 2 are trying to get you install some serious spyware.

Ahh that explains some comments I see saying "Mobo Genie" no way and the like
I never noticed that wow
But I am using adblocker

Mediafire, Google are positive
Mega.co.nz, devhost are slow
depositfiles, uploaded are negative
You might make a list off all downloadsites that dwell in and around xda