Thanks everyone, I no longer need any more mirrors. I think we have enough (or too many) right now.
More than happy to offer hosting space and bandwidth. I'm on an unmetered line on my own hardware in a good datacenter, I'd be happy to host it for you...
Great. if you can provide an ftp to an empty folder I will upload the file when I get it. If not you can just pm me when you get the file hosted and I will add it to the list. Whatever works best for you.
When the official cupcake drops will it automatically update to that OTA if you are on 1.43 or would you be stuck until you ran the JF Cupcake update?
Just wondering. I will check with my host and see how much bandwidth I am allotted (I just switched hosts).
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I was just thinking and reading threads about the much anticipated JF cupcake image that will surely be coming any day now. I checked cyrket and found 5,000-10,000 users are using JFupdater which will use a TON of my hosting bandwidth. I am hoping to get a list of users early who can help mirror this update. Keep in mind, this is going to require immense bandwidth and speed for about a week. Please do not offer if you are unsure if your server can handle it because it will just fail and stress the rest of the servers.
The update is not ready yet and I do not have a date, but I would like to get a preemptive handle on the issue before it does so all users can get their cupcake ASAP. Keep in mind, my hosting used up 800 gigs of bw in one week when JF released 1.43, and I expect a much larger turnout for this rom. Also, if you are able to provide me an ftp to upload the image when I get it that would be great, but not expected. Thanks in advance.
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I too am able to provide a mirror for you.
I have a silly question/suggestion
why don't you use a free file hosting service such as rapidshare and megaupload ?
I have slow international upload (1mbit) but i am on guaranteed channel (a.k.a business account) and have no bandwidth or simultaneous connections limit. The server is rock stable. If you think that such a slow connection can help please reply me and i will provide an ftp account for the update.
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I have a silly question/suggestion
why don't you use a free file hosting service such as rapidshare and megaupload ?
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Rapidshare and megaupload don't allow you to provide direct links to the file (at least I don't think they do), and he's needing direct links in order to let JF Updater use them as mirrors. BUT, I *think* drop.io does let you copy and send the direct link. I think I have done it...its been a while. I'll test it out.
Nope. Doesn't work. They time-out after a minute or so.
I can offer 1tb of transfer to this project, 100mbit .us link
I can offer some bandwidth as well
I can put it in my public dropbox folder on getdropbox.com if you want. I tested it out, and it will work. here's a link: https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1034365/Top%20Secret.txt
can someone verify?
Sure ...
We have unlimited bandwidth on our own VPS with 1&1. We will be glad to offer to be a mirrow.
Feel free to contact me:
Brent Johnson
[email protected]
i say great. there is a lot of space availible. so let the build come
You might want to delay the automatic update for a few days (if not a week). Let the people who really want the update do so manually (via rapidshare,etc.) and then the traffic consumed but the JFUpdater crowd will have diminished significantly.
You can use the mirror off my site (androidevolve.com)
isn't this one of the use cases bittorrent solves best?
More than likely, yes, bittorrent would be a good idea for these. Just so long as there's a true or truely mirrored torrent, and not force us to go searching on TPB or a site like that.
I have plent of space available on htcsource.com, just send me the file when ready and I'll send you back the link.
I can offer up some mirror space on a 10mb link us co-location. Send a PM if its still needed.
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update:
http://alanrosenquist.com/bt/index.php
has anyone thought about distributing using BitTorrent instead of these file sharing places that add limits?
we can discuss the advantages and disadvantages here.
from what i see:
advantage:
easy distribution
everyone contributes to the dispersal
faster speed
simple
disadvantages:
people might not share
if file is bad or corrupted - waste of time
i'm on a 5/2 mb fiber line. i wouldnt mind helping to distribute. it would also help - statistically - to find which roms are being distributed the most, and which are most popular. -- not just to members of a forum posting that they "like this one the most because...."
open floor.
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has anyone thought about distributing using BitTorrent instead of these file sharing places that add limits?
we can discuss the advantages and disadvantages here.
from what i see:
advantage:
easy distribution
everyone contributes to the dispersal
faster speed
simple
disadvantages:
people might not share
if file is bad or corrupted - waste of time
i'm on a 5/2 mb fiber line. i wouldnt mind helping to distribute. it would also help - statistically - to find which roms are being distributed the most, and which are most popular. -- not just to members of a forum posting that they "like this one the most because...."
open floor.
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ya making a bittorrent link would be nice
but ur point about being the file bad or corrupted is the same for http links with bittorrent the file cant get corrupted during upload/download (it will check the hash when its finished)
I vote YES!
Nice idea, but I guess it will done, because will no seeders. Hundred of files but no seeding, it's usual problem of small trackers.
I was thinking the same thing rapidshare et al suck. Problem will always be having seeders available. Usenet is another great option, but requires having a decent provider, and not quite as widespread and easy to use as bittorrent. We could always try having links for rapidshare, bittorent, and usenet (NZBs), and see what happens.
I have a dedicated server, willing to seed pretty much at all times. I am not sure how much traffic a tracker will generate but I am willing to do some testing. Anyone have experience setting up trackers?
and what is somebody makes a site. with only ppc software torrentz?
I have very slow GPRS connection at home... At work I have really quick connection, but Bittorrent is blocked there for obvious reasons... Rapidshare works.
The rapidshare is not the ideal, but for me it is better than torrent... Also remember that these files are not so popular (not so many people downloading ROMs all the time), so you will almost certainly download slower that from rapidshare (because unless you are lucky there will be just one "seed" and you - and even this only if anybody will be willing to make a permanent seed).
Torrent is good for big popular files - the Wizard ROMs do not fall to that category...
Mirek
blackgear - I presume you don't mean warez, right? Because I'm sure you're familiar with our forum rulez.
Guys, if you're going to torrent roms, an alternative idea might be to bunch quite a few roms together into say a 700mb torrent of various roms. That way, those who are generous can seed a bunch of roms all in one go, whereas those who need a specific rom can just download the specific rom from within the torrent.
I think in this way, you're more likely to continue to see the less "popular" roms still being seeded, as they will all be hosted within the big torrent, and the big torrent will also be less likely to end up being "poisoned" by someone/companies with viruses or fakes etc.
IMHO.
V
my honest opinion, this will never work. Torrents were always good for popular mainstream stuff. People should go here for all the information instead of going to some torrent and downloading it, and end up bricking their phone.
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my honest opinion, this will never work. Torrents were always good for popular mainstream stuff. People should go here for all the information instead of going to some torrent and downloading it, and end up bricking their phone.
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couldnt we just include a link to the forum page in a "Read Me" or "Critical Instructions"?
fyi: checking out http://blogtorrent.com/
DownLoading now just for seeding purposes....
I have a 1.2 MB upload....
I will mirror everything posted on the tracker....
Come on all you "doubting thomases", Anything I can do to give back to this community I will do gladly....
this is up, and strong.
there is no logging taking place - unless you upload. only for the sake of moderating anything that may be illegal.
BitTorrent
I'm sure almost all of you will agree with me when i say rapidshare sucks! and by rapidshare I also mean the rest of the rapidshare-like sites (4sites, mediafire, megaupload, etc) ... and its a pain to use them to download roms, especially if there are multiple version roms (lite, full, cube, etc) and you want to get more than one (I'm not cheap or anything, but if I have to give money to download the files [referring to websites' premium account, etc], I'd rather donate the money to the rom-cookers for their hard work)
and I think most of us are familiar with torrents by now ... I searched the forum, and i don't think it has been suggested or brought up before ... but how about having a torrent setup for the roms ...
There are a lot of people (including me ) who are willing to help and share as much as possible ... ideas/comments/suggestions ?
p.s. I hope this isn't against any rules ... correct me if I'm wrong
Well, the problem with torrents is that they have to be on all day or at least until they get an ample amount of seeders so they can stop hosting it. There is a lot of people that have a limited connection and that would make it worse. For those of us who have good internet connections, and can host torrents, then this would be a good idea, but some people cant. Unless they get help from people who have good internet connections.
I've posted most of the files on my site..
http://f1ip.net/Downloads/KaiserFiles
.. and torrent sucks.
I wouldnt download these from a torrent, or anyone elses site other than the authors published links.
How do I know you haven't tampered with it prior to uploading it??
Maybe if the cooks list the MD5 for each release, then I *might* be tempted.
What if xda-devs set up a private tracker?
My torrent client is always running on my pc at home only for private trackers. its not worth having a bunch of leachers and hit and runners if they were hosted on public torrent sites.
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I've posted most of the files on my site..
http://f1ip.net/Downloads/KaiserFiles
.. and torrent sucks.
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I like torrents but still... here my link to the files.... see my signiture:
guys ... use 4shared.com ... no wait ... 5gb ... only max 100mb file limit!
If I am at home well supported torrents are MUCH faster. I think torrents would be a great idea and an MD5 is easy enough to generate.
4shared.com is one of my favorite download sites used on here. It works well when I am at work or on someone else's network that doesn't have the ports set up for bittorrent. But I have never seen the speeds from 4shared.com that I get from bittorrent.
I have flashed a LOT of roms on the forums and the worst thing for me is when rapidshare says "Wait another hour to download". I can tell you that I would seed the ROMs
Just my 2 cents
why
My internet sucks, my wife is always angry that I am here and not talking to her, personally I would like for you all to only host files any place that the cook would like. Really it is up to them. This is a good idea though.
This way I can stare at XDA even longer waiting for the new rom to be placed on my phone.
tilt
Rom..dualtouch v4
radio 1.27.15.32
8525
gave to my wife
now it is a cute paper wait
No torrents for me. I tried downloading a previous ROM from one and it took two hours versus a very quick download with the free rapidshare or megaupload...
(384K DSL)
Just about anything other than rapidshare is better. Latest ones I've used are 2shared.com and 4shared.com. Also Sendspace isn't too bad.
I used to put roms up on Torrents via piratebay and had a box that I left online to seed them. Problem was I saw people pulling, but nobody else was seeding. So the only way torrents will work is if you get others that are willing to pull and share, and not just pull.
why cant you post it on usenet and make a nzb file out of it so anyone can download it fast with grabbit or something and just post the nzb file here thatway people like mfrazzz dont have to seed endlessly and everyone can download the rom fast
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why cant you post it on usenet and make a nzb file out of it so anyone can download it fast with grabbit or something and just post the nzb file here thatway people like mfrazzz dont have to seed endlessly and everyone can download the rom fast
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I second this idea!
It's been a while since I patroled the NNTP servers... is there an appropriate group for posting these type of files?
start a new group alt.binairies.xda.kaiser??? for our roms or alt.binairies.xda for all roms posted on this site like the ftp sever before microsoft bashed it
use this forum for nzb posting and the usenet for all the pars and rars so people only need to install a newsreader and download a nzb file not search for all the pars rars manually
keep the acces to the usenet group closed for cookers only so that not anyone can subscribe to the group
the only thing the cookers have to do is upload the file's to the group and create a nzb post it in the forum and everyone is happy
I think torrents are much better idea.
But the tracker should be in xda site and accessible only to registered members of the forum.
If everyone will keep the golden rule of 1.1 ratio, then there are no problems and It will be much better that all free upload sites. rAPIDHSARE sux...
Whatever the case is I think its worth a try...
Great Idea! Also, have a point system based on the ip you use most on here, so when ever you don do your share you loss points and a certain amount of points is required to download certain things! If you cant seed for certian reasons then you will be the excpetion? Eh, good idea?
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start a new group alt.binairies.xda.kaiser??? for our roms or alt.binairies.xda for all roms posted on this site like the ftp sever before microsoft bashed it
use this forum for nzb posting and the usenet for all the pars and rars so people only need to install a newsreader and download a nzb file not search for all the pars rars manually
keep the acces to the usenet group closed for cookers only so that not anyone can subscribe to the group
the only thing the cookers have to do is upload the file's to the group and create a nzb post it in the forum and everyone is happy
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Chainfire already did this, it didn't take off at all and it's been a link on the wiki for quite some time now. http://www.jongma.org/xda-nzb/
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Great Idea! Also, have a point system based on the ip you use most on here, so when ever you don do your share you loss points and a certain amount of points is required to download certain things! If you cant seed for certian reasons then you will be the excpetion? Eh, good idea?
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Torrents, a bunch of mirrors, mirrored mirrors and all sorts of things have been discussed in the past. None of them got past the talk stage. If/when they have, they've been completely *OWNED* by the bandwidth usage.
There are hundreds of people downloading these files and you'll be lucky to have a 100:1 ratio for seeding vs. downloading. That means that everyone will get around 2KB/s each, 7x to 21x slower than the typical 15 to 45KB/s download from RapidShare or MegaUpload.
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Torrents, a bunch of mirrors, mirrored mirrors and all sorts of things have been discussed in the past. None of them got past the talk stage. If/when they have, they've been completely *OWNED* by the bandwidth usage.
There are hundreds of people downloading these files and you'll be lucky to have a 100:1 ratio for seeding vs. downloading. That means that everyone will get around 2KB/s each, 7x to 21x slower than the typical 15 to 45KB/s download from RapidShare or MegaUpload.
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Torrents are really only good for 1gb files and up.
Torrents would work fine if it was done on a credits-based system with a private tracker (private meaning you must create an account, not invite only - could be tied together w/forum accounts)
The tracker would enforce at least a 1:1 ratio beyond the first 'free' download, and in the case a torrent gets orphaned the tracker could also hold a local mirror of the files, so when seeds becomes < 1, it kicks on as a seed and finishes at least one person off to keep the torrent alive..
As far as torrents being only really good for 1gb files and up, that holds true for public torrents, but on a private credit based system, arbitrary sizes work fine
Plus people in general have a fixation with making a number grow larger and larger, so a credit-based system has it's own built in motivational driver. It's the basis for most video games out there! (score, xp, level, etc!) You could even give each forum user a special icon or access to a custom tagline, etc. depending on their current level of credits, for another motivational driver to keep seeding up.
Hey everyone. I figured this might be a good place to go with this since everyone in here knows how much of a pain in the butt it is to download ROMs from those upload sites. Anyways, I have some extra webspace that I'd be willing to put up for use for people to upload CABs and ROMs to.
Has this been tried before? If not, would people actually use this? I would make an FTP account for everyone to use, and then developers could make their own folders and put their ROMs and CABs in there.
It might not be much, but it would be me giving back to the XDA community. If any chefs want to test it out for speed and such, let me know in this thread or in a PM and I'll get an FTP account made up along with a subdomain or something.
I have 1.5TB of disk space and 15TB of transfer per month. All of... 200MB of transfer is used. So I think I can handle hosting a couple ROMs.
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Hey everyone. I figured this might be a good place to go with this since everyone in here knows how much of a pain in the butt it is to download ROMs from those upload sites. Anyways, I have some extra webspace that I'd be willing to put up for use for people to upload CABs and ROMs to.
Has this been tried before? If not, would people actually use this? I would make an FTP account for everyone to use, and then developers could make their own folders and put their ROMs and CABs in there.
It might not be much, but it would be me giving back to the XDA community. If any chefs want to test it out for speed and such, let me know in this thread or in a PM and I'll get an FTP account made up along with a subdomain or something.
I have 1.5TB of disk space and 15TB of transfer per month. All of... 200MB of transfer is used. So I think I can handle hosting a couple ROMs.
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Thanks for the offer, a lot of people offer mirrors by uploading cooked ROM's to there webspace / storage area and posting a mirro (like so), normally the chef's then add the link to the first post.
I suggest you do this. And maybe add a link in your signature to the repository.
A lot of foreign users and office folk will apperciate your efforts, as the common storage sites are banned in thier country / office)
Once up and running I'll drop me a PM and I'll add it to the FAQ Sticky post for you.
Ta
Dave
For the last 6 months I've been hosting files for developers in the Eris section. I made the site to people wouldn't have to use all that MultiUpload crap, got sick of the waiting 60 seconds to download a file, entering a verification code, etc etc.
Anyways, the site's worked well. You can direct link to your files, upload everything via a simple web interface.
I just thought I'd offer the site to developers in other forums now.
http://android.grdlock.net
Anyways, if you're interested in using it to host your files, just make a username on the site real quick, shoot me a PM, and I'll give it upload permissions.
And no, this isn't an advertisement or anything. People in the Eris section have just liked using the website over MultiUpload, so I thought I'd offer to let other people use my bandwidth as well.
I can jump in on this as well - I have unlimited bandwidth so if you need another mirror, let me know and ill set you up on my server.
http://mhamptontech.com/sgs4g/
I am working to create an archive of all roms, source code, modems, and kernels for the Galaxy S 4G. I am adding them as I download them and am working to make this a complete source for everything related to this phone. This site will remain up forever and will provide people with whatever they need.
If developers would like to use this to host their roms I can create an FTP account for them upon request, or I will add it within a few days of it's post in the forums. The only thing I ask is that people don't post links to these roms in other locations and instead link to the forum post of the developer. Support our developers!
I have plenty of space and bandwidth to host anything and everything, but if developers use their FTP to host non-Android things their account will be removed. Also donations are always appreciated as server space costs money!
I would love to have an ftp. I have been having space issues everywhere. Could you PM me when you have it set up?
Nice
10char
Sent from my SGH-T959V
Sure thing airfluip I'll get to that as soon as I have FTP working properly.
I'll be working on filling in everything over the next few days. After that if there is anything I don't have there feel free to make requests.
not trying to knock your suggestion cause i think its a great idea, but this should be in the general section and not the dev section. believe it or not, but the devs do check that section every so often. one thing i would like to ask though is, how much space and bandwidth do you actually have, cause if its limited, there might be some issues since the dev work gets downloaded from here A LOT and with updates and all that, it will just eat at your bw. also with the space, if devs keep developing more roms/scripts/kernels or whatever they develope, that too will get eaten up. like i said though, i think its a great idea and if you would like, pm me or hit me up on gtalk [[email protected]] and maybe we can talk about this some more.
agreed.....
Space I have 60GB, and I have another server with 250GB that I can overflow to if necessary. Bandwidth, I have 2TB, and another server that has 3TB if it runs out. I'm not going down without a fight .
Also, if this should be in general. A mod can move it .
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Space I have 60GB, and I have another server with 250GB that I can overflow to if necessary. Bandwidth, I have 2TB, and another server that has 3TB if it runs out. I'm not going down without a fight .
Also, if this should be in general. A mod can move it .
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well, i have an offer for you then. like i said though, either pm me or hit me up on gtalk as i don't wanna post anything here. trust me when i say you'll most likely not turn it down.
thanks for the offer man but ill prob pass on this as i keep my stuff on source forge
So tomorrow everything will be up at sgs4g.codedgraphx.info (droidmyst's server) with a mirror at sgs4g.mhamptontech.com\
Any devs who want ftp talk to droidmyst.
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Any devs who want ftp talk to droidmyst.
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here's the deal guys. any devs who want ftp access to my server, just pm me. same rules will apply when uploading. what i'll probably be doing is create seperate folders for each dev who wants access and set it up so they only can access that folder via ftp, that way there won't be any accidental deleting from other devs. so if you want access, pm me here or hit me up on my gtalk [[email protected]]
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here's the deal guys. any devs who want ftp access to my server, just pm me. same rules will apply when uploading. what i'll probably be doing is create seperate folders for each dev who wants access and set it up so they only can access that folder via ftp, that way there won't be any accidental deleting from other devs. so if you want access, pm me here or hit me up on my gtalk [[email protected]]
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Yes... "Accidental" deleting... Muahahaha.
This makes me so happy, awesome work. I had the same thought a few months ago, except my thought was to build it into an app for easy navigation and downloading. (I usually cwm flash from sd downloads)
This site semi-eliminates the need, but also would make it easier to build since there are clean direct links for download. Any objections to me toying around with that? Or if any other devs want to run with my idea, that's cool.. (understanding that it was intended to be a free app for us xda sgs4g users.)
currently i have only one person who wants to use my host. not bad since we've only started this a few days ago. as of right now, i'm currently playing with some flash templates for the home page to make it look good. there's nothing special there now, but i'll be updating it as i get my flash skills perfected once again. its been a while since i've played with flash. see you all around.