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Hi Leo users,
As seen before on the MSM-72XX platform, HTC once again denied us of a fully working 3D graphics driver from Qualcomm. Why? I know it was a patent issue on the MSM720X chipset based devices.
It doesn't matter anyway, since it doesn't help us getting the Leo work the way it should.
Now, some users are already looking into this issue, and i'd like to combine all efforts in one thread, to make it a centralized discussion.
As with the MSM-based driverpack, there WILL be a driverpack for QSD-based devices, made by me, or others. However, it'll take a while, since I'm not able to test it myself. The MSM driver team only has 2 members with a Leo, so i'm depending on them to do my testing for me.
To set the tone of this discussion, look at this benchmark comparison, made on 15-11-2009.
Let the discussion begin!
Oh and a small p.s.: Please keep it on topic, posts like "OMG!!1! It's so slow!" are pretty useless. Thanks.
News
There's alot of interest in improving the graphics performance on the HD2. Chainfire is working on a fix already. Very good news.
You can find the patch here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592663
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wow...Neo is back for the Leo...AWESOME.
I know my HD was twice as quick after installing your drivers...can't wait for the final version of the driverpack.
Well, I'll repeat my question from the other thread: has anyone looked at what drivers are shipped with an Acer neoTouch, and does that tell us anything useful about what's going on with the HD2?
did you sign the last petition on MSM drivers to HTC? HTC seems least bothered about that. It seems we have to work out something ourselves. Let's get it work.
Shasarak said:
Well, I'll repeat my question from the other thread: has anyone looked at what drivers are shipped with an Acer neoTouch, and does that tell us anything useful about what's going on with the HD2?
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I haven't gotten my hands on them yet. So if someone wishes to share, please do.
corepda said:
did you sign the last petition on MSM drivers to HTC? HTC seems least bothered about that. It seems we have to work out something ourselves. Let's get it work.
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Petitions towards HTC don't work. The past proves that. We will have to do it ourselves. (again)
I'll wait before buying my HD2...
Thank you Neo !
Another question: can we say anything useful about the state of 2D video drivers on Leo? I'm a bit concerned at the suggestion that one needs to run CorePlayer in GDI mode. If CorePlayer's QTV overlay mode doesn't work on Snapdragon that's not necessarily surprising - different GPU, after all - but if it can't use DirectDraw either, does that suggest a problem with 2D driver support?
Shasarak said:
Another question: can we say anything useful about the state of 2D video drivers on Leo? I'm a bit concerned at the suggestion that one needs to run CorePlayer in GDI mode. If CorePlayer's QTV overlay mode doesn't work on Snapdragon that's not necessarily surprising - different GPU, after all - but if it can't use DirectDraw either, does that suggest a problem with 2D driver support?
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Well the current version of Coreplayer has support for the MSM-based devices. The Snapdragon SHOULD have backwards compatibility with the MSM platform. You could try and run GFXboost by Chainfire, which enables QTV on the MSM platform at all times. Maybe it works on QSD devices too.
Warning: GFXboost does not work on HTC HD2. After installing it, Leo does not see SD card. Hard restart is needed to get it fixed.
We've seen on the other thread the the OpenGL test runs faster when the screen is dimmed, so is there something other than the Opengl driver we can play with?
Thanks for letting us know about Gfxboost, maybe Chainfire could make it work on the HD2 too in time if needed.
tomksoft said:
Warning: GFXboost does not work on HTC HD2. After installing it, Leo does not see SD card. Hard restart is needed to get it fixed.
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QFE! Don't use it until Chainfire looks at it first!
In other news: check out the first post for a GLbenchmark comparison between a HD2, TG01, samsung OmniaHD and a Blackstone. Sadly, the HD2 places 3rd in the ranking, after the TG01 and on the first place: the OmniaHD. Obviously the Blackstone is the slowest, but hey: they Omnia HD only runs on 600 Mhz!
NeoS2007 said:
check out the first post for a GLbenchmark comparison between a HD2, TG01, samsung OmniaHD and a Blackstone.
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It will be fair if you replace Blackstone with Acer s200.
NeoS2007 said:
In other news: check out the first post for a GLbenchmark comparison between a HD2, TG01, samsung OmniaHD and a Blackstone. Sadly, the HD2 places 3rd in the ranking, after the TG01 and on the first place: the OmniaHD. Obviously the Blackstone is the slowest, but hey: they Omnia HD only runs on 600 Mhz!
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That's the influence of the PowerVR GPU, presumably. Slower CPU but better GPU.
EDIT: actually no, it looks like the Omnia HD is even managing to outperform the Snapdragon phones on the CPU benchmark. That's scary!
Does it get any sort of boost from having a lower screen resolution? Might also be a Symbian vs WinMo thing.
Here you go this a dump of the open Gl ES drivers of my acer neotouch s200, hope it helps, attach below:
ps: there are also other drivers included, not really sure if they are usefull.
also i can play any open gl es 1.0/1.1/2.0 game from xtrak to electopia, these drivers are even able to render Inofx.GeoRally.EX.v1.0 from the dell axim v51, of course they don't render it perfectly but im able to see the car rendered in 3d no textures tho and some of the menu elements.
rafyvitto said:
Here you go this a dump of the open Gl ES drivers of my acer neotouch s200, hope it helps, attach below:
ps: there are also other drivers included, not really sure if they are usefull.
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Dll files are missing in that dump.
Did you follow the correct procedure after you dumped the rom?
prepare_imgfs.exe Part02.raw -nosplit
viewimgfs.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin
edit: and pls include the d3dm dll files.
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Dll files are missing in that dump.
Did you follow the correct procedure after you dumped the rom?
prepare_imgfs.exe Part02.raw -nosplit
viewimgfs.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin
edit: and pls include the d3dm dll files.
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These are from the OEM folder, for cooking purposes, let me dump my rom, il post the dll's as soon as im done.
rafyvitto said:
These are from the OEM folder, for cooking purposes, let me dump my rom, il post the dll's as soon as im done.
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Sorry about that , and thanks in advance.
Related
don't know if this has been asked, but....
I know there is a overclocking util (BatteryStatus) for the older 200Mhz Touch.
But I got the CDMA HTC Touch (MP6900 ??) with the 400Mhz speed cpu, and the "BateryStatus" util does not work on it... actually it craped out the phone many times tonight... had to do many hard resets!! Crap !!
So.... is there a overclocking util for this version (runing windows mobile pro 6) any one know ???
thanks
Dweeb
Can't be done. A search would have told you that.
Dweeboid said:
don't know if this has been asked, but....
I know there is a overclocking util (BatteryStatus) for the older 200Mhz Touch.
But I got the CDMA HTC Touch (MP6900 ??) with the 400Mhz speed cpu, and the "BateryStatus" util does not work on it... actually it craped out the phone many times tonight... had to do many hard resets!! Crap !!
So.... is there a overclocking util for this version (runing windows mobile pro 6) any one know ???
thanks
Dweeb
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Why would you want to overclock it anyway? The battery usage would be increased and you would probably shorten the lifespan of the device....these things aint cheap you know
400 MHz in a pocket device like these is easily fast enough!
dont know if i agree with that... windows mobile isn't the best operating system because it's sloppy. so we need faster pocketpc's in all honesty.
even 400mhz isn't fast enough.
i'm also curious if its possible to squeeze just a little extra out of it (safely).
i love how my Touch works and how it's setup with windows mobile 6 and now this Manila 2D interface... but it's just always been slow. Even straight out of the box. I recently lost my phone and got a new one... Opened up the brand new one and it's just as slow as my other one.
i made registry tweaks too to increase ram usage and all those good things yo u can do there. no good in my opinion too slow for 2008... 2009 now.
great hardware. poor software. want to compensate for that by making the good hardware even better...
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dont know if i agree with that... windows mobile isn't the best operating system because it's sloppy. so we need faster pocketpc's in all honesty.
even 400mhz isn't fast enough.
i'm also curious if its possible to squeeze just a little extra out of it (safely).
i love how my Touch works and how it's setup with windows mobile 6 and now this Manila 2D interface... but it's just always been slow. Even straight out of the box. I recently lost my phone and got a new one... Opened up the brand new one and it's just as slow as my other one.
i made registry tweaks too to increase ram usage and all those good things yo u can do there. no good in my opinion too slow for 2008... 2009 now.
great hardware. poor software. want to compensate for that by making the good hardware even better...
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Hi dude, read your post and i wonder if you search the XDA for new 6.5roms esp "optimised" ? I heard XDA has most of the roms for "all" wm phone also uni roms. use the search engine found at the top under " search ". I have downloaded a "Touch" but forgot where they are located cos im a downloader, not a note writer
deranche said:
Hi dude, read your post and i wonder if you search the XDA for new 6.5roms esp "optimised" ? I heard XDA has most of the roms for "all" wm phone also uni roms. use the search engine found at the top under " search ". I have downloaded a "Touch" but forgot where they are located cos im a downloader, not a note writer
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So, what version of the Touch do you have?
what drvers really works o work better for a kaiser with WinMo 6.1... Samsung OMNIA D3D, or this one HTC-CA-Kaiser-Drivers.cab (http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php), and where i can find OEM package of HTC-CA-Kaiser-Drivers, Regards!
any chef outthere¿
I think one of the only differences is that the Omnia driver does not support OpenGLES (I'm pretty sure). My vote would be the HTC Class Action driver, even though it is not fully functional as of right now
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I think one of the only differences is that the Omnia driver does not support OpenGLES (I'm pretty sure). My vote would be the HTC Class Action driver, even though it is not fully functional as of right now
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of course you know.....your vote "opinion" in particular is taken very seriously
so it's HTC CA drivers over Omnia drivers for me from now on lol
mbarvian said:
I think one of the only differences is that the Omnia driver does not support OpenGLES (I'm pretty sure). My vote would be the HTC Class Action driver, even though it is not fully functional as of right now
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oh i don't know that for openGLES but omnia drivers make the same score on 3ddemo with shiny screen and can see the TEXT with omnia drivers
so is it possible to play doomGLES with the HTC drivers versus the omnia drivers?
http://kokak.free.fr/DoomGLES.htm
i have ABUs PDAcorner v172g right now and i think it has the omnia driver.. but ive been trying to get this version of doom to work for a while now..
p.s. - if i tried to these drivers... could i go back to the omnia D3D drivers without a problem.. THANK YOU!
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so is it possible to play doomGLES with the HTC drivers versus the omnia drivers?
http://kokak.free.fr/DoomGLES.htm
i have ABUs PDAcorner v172g right now and i think it has the omnia driver.. but ive been trying to get this version of doom to work for a while now..
p.s. - if i tried to these drivers... could i go back to the omnia D3D drivers without a problem.. THANK YOU!
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i think if have uninstall when remove it go back to your settings.. but if you have problem install the omnia drivers thats all
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oh i don't know that for openGLES but omnia drivers make the same score on 3ddemo with shiny screen and can see the TEXT with omnia drivers
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as far as Direct3D is concerned, the Samsung Omnia drivers might score a little higher, but if you are into gaming, like DoomGLES, then the HTC CA will be the best option.
@soueski: yes, you can just install either driver and install a different driver and it should work fine.
@mazin13: thanks
btw, I'm playing with Toshiba Portege g810 right now, which has the same processor as the Kaiser, does anyone know if drivers have been ported from this?
thanks for the info MBAR..
ok.. im downloading the htc drivers and gonna see if they work a little better as far as gaming and media is concerned..
try the goforce CoD 2 demo with the d3d drivers
mbarvian said:
as far as Direct3D is concerned, the Samsung Omnia drivers might score a little higher, but if you are into gaming, like DoomGLES, then the HTC CA will be the best option.
@soueski: yes, you can just install either driver and install a different driver and it should work fine.
@mazin13: thanks
btw, I'm playing with Toshiba Portege g810 right now, which has the same processor as the Kaiser, does anyone know if drivers have been ported from this?
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I think SJ was trying to port the drivers across quite a few months ago. I know there was some discussion about it in the forum but I dont think he or anyone else got anywhere with them.
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thanks for the info MBAR..
ok.. im downloading the htc drivers and gonna see if they work a little better as far as gaming and media is concerned..
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that is what i need, i dont have time to test it, but my kaiser graphics sucks, i cant even play snes or whatch some movies, goog look
I downloaded thise drivers, but cant seem to get them installed, and i cant find a tutorial, any1 of your care to help me?
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I downloaded thise drivers, but cant seem to get them installed, and i cant find a tutorial, any1 of your care to help me?
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isnt it just a cab install?
i downloaded the cab and just installed it on my phone from the HTCclassaction site.. the latest one i belive is from october..
but as far as the driver are concerned..
the triangle (GL)
the D3D demo
the lights (D3D)
all tested flawlessly.. there wernt any tears or artifacts.. and very smooth..
the text 3d tho.. i cant see the text.. it just looks like a mini blue and red castle wall to me
as far as my gaming goes tho..
i havnt gotten doomGLES to work yet.. im still stuck on the certificate error.. although i know it works on kaiser because on another site (which i cant link.. im sorry ) .. someone got it to run .. i think ima ask him how he did it
.. i use Morphgear 2.4.0.9 (SNES Emu)...and i can actually play a lil..
mega man i can play with frame skip 3 with sound and stereo (HTC DRIVERS)
vs. frame skip 2 no sound. -- resulting in the same frame rate 10 - 15
(but if disable everything and put framerate to 3 its smooth HTCclass drivers -- couldnt do that before)
so i guess a little improvement there
Mario Rpg actually loads -- unplayable tho.
as far as 3d games go as in athelion 2 and flux challenge.. i did notice when using the touchscreen, its more responsive and dosnt slow down the games as it did before.. (i think these games are software rendered, and i dont know if the drivers have anything to do with how a physical touch of the games FPS.. but really.. it was smoother )
ill try testing a lil more and maybe tweak some stuff
and benchmark the the different drivers with video playback and rendering rates..
video playback is somewhat smoother using a decent quality file and an oversized resolution.. TCPMP and Coreplayer seem to resize the movie/videos res ratio a bit better for a lil smoother playback.. AUD/VID was a tiny out of sync tho (wasnt with the omnia drivers).. but with a lil adjustment for the A/V timing in the settings.. the movie was much more watchable...
then again i could just be fooling myself .. either case.. my movies are smoother now after the HTCclass install
video bitrate @ 182kbps
audio @ 182 kbps
avi file
resolution @ 624 x 336
as far as video playback with a converted video actually made for a 320 x 240 resolution in mp4 format 24 hz audio... it plays flawlessly with dvd quality @ 27 - 29 FPS.. now this i know is better with these drivers
but thats all i got right now.. as far as everyday use.. as in M2D and drawback rates and etc... there pretty much the same..
although the camera does fixate the lighting adjustments a lil faster in a dark room.
but just as a side note.. the phone does tend to get a lil warmer from my experience.. not crazy hot.. jus a lil warmer as in i could actually tell my phones working a lil harder now (when using apps/games)..
(or i could just be crazy and imagining all this stuff)
more later.....
OK OK, i am using KaiserKitchen to convert CAB to OEM, its work if i go to OEM with that Tool? or any one out there got OEM package to cook on my own ROM? regards!
souskei said:
isnt it just a cab install?
i downloaded the cab and just installed it on my phone from the HTCclassaction site.. the latest one i belive is from october..
but as far as the driver are concerned..
the triangle (GL)
the D3D demo
the lights (D3D)
all tested flawlessly.. there wernt any tears or artifacts.. and very smooth..
the text 3d tho.. i cant see the text.. it just looks like a mini blue and red castle wall to me
as far as my gaming goes tho..
i havnt gotten doomGLES to work yet.. im still stuck on the certificate error.. although i know it works on kaiser because on another site (which i cant link.. im sorry ) .. someone got it to run .. i think ima ask him how he did it
.. i use Morphgear 2.4.0.9 (SNES Emu)...and i can actually play a lil..
mega man i can play with frame skip 3 with sound and stereo (HTC DRIVERS)
vs. frame skip 2 no sound. -- resulting in the same frame rate 10 - 15
(but if disable everything and put framerate to 3 its smooth HTCclass drivers -- couldnt do that before)
so i guess a little improvement there
Mario Rpg actually loads -- unplayable tho.
as far as 3d games go as in athelion 2 and flux challenge.. i did notice when using the touchscreen, its more responsive and dosnt slow down the games as it did before.. (i think these games are software rendered, and i dont know if the drivers have anything to do with how a physical touch of the games FPS.. but really.. it was smoother )
ill try testing a lil more and maybe tweak some stuff
and benchmark the the different drivers with video playback and rendering rates..
video playback is somewhat smoother using a decent quality file and an oversized resolution.. TCPMP and Coreplayer seem to resize the movie/videos res ratio a bit better for a lil smoother playback.. AUD/VID was a tiny out of sync tho (wasnt with the omnia drivers).. but with a lil adjustment for the A/V timing in the settings.. the movie was much more watchable...
then again i could just be fooling myself .. either case.. my movies are smoother now after the HTCclass install
video bitrate @ 182kbps
audio @ 182 kbps
avi file
resolution @ 624 x 336
as far as video playback with a converted video actually made for a 320 x 240 resolution in mp4 format 24 hz audio... it plays flawlessly with dvd quality @ 27 - 29 FPS.. now this i know is better with these drivers
but thats all i got right now.. as far as everyday use.. as in M2D and drawback rates and etc... there pretty much the same..
although the camera does fixate the lighting adjustments a lil faster in a dark room.
but just as a side note.. the phone does tend to get a lil warmer from my experience.. not crazy hot.. jus a lil warmer as in i could actually tell my phones working a lil harder now (when using apps/games)..
(or i could just be crazy and imagining all this stuff)
more later.....
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Test Again with omnia drivers now who know your score with htc ca drivers
here is the 2 drivers OMNIA and HTC CA
wolframio74 said:
OK OK, i am using KaiserKitchen to convert CAB to OEM, its work if i go to OEM with that Tool? or any one out there got OEM package to cook on my own ROM? regards!
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yes, it should work flawlessly
I asked this question a while ago about other 7500 chipset phones
Is there anyone checking the other phones with the same chipset for drivers?
I found a lot on http://pdadb.net/
Link to all devices using this chipset http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster&posted=1&cpu=a7500
Here is the link for the 7200 chipset phones http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200
Funny even the new treo, (htc device I know) is still using it, Same performance, why upgrade at all?
Funny the reason I was looking was so I could stay away from poor performing phones from companies not willing to make a quality device with full feature set ( aka htc, qualcomm) Please, I am not completely unhappy with the phone, but I know it could be better on the multimedia side.
I found this with the specs being the so close, wonder if there is a driver?
Is there a company like symbol or medical field pda that are utilizing full driver set for the chipset?
Samsung SGH-i777 Saga
Release Date: December, 2008
62x124x13.5mm, 130g, Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional , 32bit Qualcomm MSM7500, 400MHz CPU, 128MiB RAM, 256MiB ROM, 2.6" 320x320 color transflective TFT display, Proprietary audio jack, GSM850/GSM900/GSM1800/GSM1900, CSD, GPRS, EDGE, secondary cellular phone, microSD/microSDHC/TransFlash/SDIO, Proprietary port, Bluetooth, WLAN, GPS, A-GPS, Built-in QWERTY-type keyboard, 1.9MP camera, 1300mAh removable battery | See all details
can anyone test this TI d3d Drivers?
false cab i uploading soon the real..
GSM doesnt working
Info:
http://fl0rian.wordpress.com/2007/04/24/gpe²-on-a-htc-tornado/
Download the necessary files (zimage etc etc)
http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/index.php?path=gpepe/tornado/
can any one help in installation through a windows based computer
dark_prince,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333116&highlight=Linux
does this mean we can eventually get android on the tornado?
No. Android require 128 mb of ram
I don't think so.
Yesterday I ran Android on my development board with 64mb ram.
But I think the tornado is too slow for this. My board had 400mhz it made no fun to use.
This news are years old, and have been posted 1000 times before, next time use the search feature of the forum.
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does this mean we can eventually get android on the tornado?
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It does run.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560629&page=3
Tornado is fast enough, really. Menu changes very quick. The problem is key/joystick mappings.
Hi!
I have upgraded my Uni with 128MB RAM. I understand that there is extra provision for additional RAM on UNI. Can anybody confirm that the two 64MB RAM chips from Blue Angel can be used on the free space available on Uni and can it be upgraded to 256MB RAM.
Feed back and guidance needed in this respect.
Regards,
Haque
People seem to be saying it's not possible. That 128MB is the maximum. However I remember being around in the forum when people were saying you couldn't upgrade to 128MB and others found a way to do this.
I think this would need a reply from someone who knows the hardware better. (Me, I'm still wondering what the two blank spaces could be used for... and for when someone builds a small GPS chip that can be plugged somewhere inside my Uni!!... dream on!).
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...I'm still wondering what the two blank spaces could be used for... and for when someone builds a small GPS chip that can be plugged somewhere inside my Uni!!... dream on!).
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Those blank spaces are for GPS chip, which HTC didn't include. You can install the chips but it will not work because a radio rom with GPS FW has never been released for Uni.
regards
tomal said:
Those blank spaces are for GPS chip, which HTC didn't include. You can install the chips but it will not work because a radio rom with GPS FW has never been released for Uni.
regards
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Damn, I saw that Tomal replied and hoped that I will come to this thread and he'll say something along the lines of 'Yes, we successfully installed 2 128Mb RAM chips and I am testing them now with a new ROM, will let you all know how it went and offer an upgrade to people who want to get one'
Even my Elf can pinpoint my location on Google Maps, my Uni can't. Outrageous
Some time ago I have a chat conversation with one russian guy (Mo3ulla) and he has 256 RAM on the Uni (bga chips from notebook) and running Windows CE (custom port, never comes to public), so it seems it's possible, but not for public
A light!!
Well,
If that is actually true there is hope that can be done!!
Hope someone can publish this soon!
I´ll ask mo3ulla
Thanks for the tip,
Interesting reading this thread - especially this post
I don't know if the guys are still around - it was only 18 months ago.
Well i would think someone will get the way around to get it done .....
Win_XP said:
Some time ago I have a chat conversation with one russian guy (Mo3ulla) and he has 256 RAM on the Uni (bga chips from notebook) and running Windows CE (custom port, never comes to public), so it seems it's possible, but not for public
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May be you are right.
But if something is not published publicly then it may not be fully true....just my thought.
Mamaich did the original work on patching the Kernel to allow access to the 128mb ram, if bigger chips are available for the two slots then there is no reason why the memory can't be further upgraded, it would however require another kernel update to allow access to the extra memory.
The same goes for the GPS slot, if someone was willing to install the GPS chip and patch the radio stack, there's no reason why the Uni couldn't have a GPS chip.
The only problem you have is that the Uni has been around for far too long now and all the Guru's have moved on to other devices.
Try convincing someone to spend months patching an old device to have the features already available in newer devices............ you would be better inserting a new mainboard into the Uni chasis........
Cheers,
Beasty
Thanks for your clarification Beasty!
Well, I would love to convince a master to do this hard task, just want to know who can be a candidate.
And on the other hand we should rise a nice donation so we can encourage him!
I offer myself to rise the money to convince him/her
So any recomendation is welcome!
Later I´ll set up a new thread for the donation in case this makes any positive progress.
Cheers,
I'd certainly donate towards anyone getting GPS inside my Uni if it helped. However, I think as Beasty says, I don't think it's going to be money, but someones time.
Time is not a problem as long as somebody really want to go deep in it
I can wait the longest as it takes and I´ll be just a happy pacient Uni user!
$ can incentivate
Let´s how all this move forwards...
You will be hard pushed to find a candidate willing to take on this task for you.
There are not many developers here who are capable of both the hardware and software modifications required.
Don't get me wrong, there are some very good devs in these forums, but this sort of mod requires a lot of low level hardware and software knowledge.
Your best chance if you really are serious about trying to find someone to do this is head over to Darkforces and make a post there.
Really you would need Mamaich, Ivan or Helmi (to mention a few.....if you can track them down) as they are all more than capable of what you want.
To be honest though, you probably have more chance of getting HTC to do it for you..............
It would still be easier to port a new mainboard into the Uni housing (more than enough room in there for most of the current devices on the market to fit............... perhaps you should also consider this as it is a more practical move than trying to upgrade a dying device.
I love my Uni as much as the rest of you guys here, but there comes a point when you just have to move on.
Over the years we have patched the hell out of the kernel and drivers for the Uni and to be honest the code is quite a mess now, far from optimised.
Good luck and keep this thread updated with any news you have on progressing this issue as I would be very interested if you found someone willing to take on this challenge.
I know first hand how messy all the drivers and patched oem files and XIP are in the Uni and it will be a monumentous task.
Cheers,
Beasty
Beasty is right, as we all know, but if we take in account what was written in Orb's thread about Uni vs new devices there are a lot of us that are not satisfied with the performance/cost of the latest, me included.
How can it be possible to release a device and i can't even play avi with it?
Runing the same apps on both devices, I can't notice a real improvement in terms of speed. memory we know that's short...
My HD is nice, but as I told, I would prefer the Uni with 256, even being a lot bigger.
Unfortunately we (Uni) suffer from oldness, and we will have to move on...
ultravox said:
Beasty is right, as we all know, but if we take in account what was written in Orb's thread about Uni vs new devices there are a lot of us that are not satisfied with the performance/cost of the latest, me included.
How can it be possible to release a device and i can't even play avi with it?
Runing the same apps on both devices, I can't notice a real improvement in terms of speed. memory we know that's short...
My HD is nice, but as I told, I would prefer the Uni with 256, even being a lot bigger.
Unfortunately we (Uni) suffer from oldness, and we will have to move on...
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I agree the current Qualcomm chipsets are not up to par, mainly down to driver issues rather than the hardware. Don't forget our Uni's run off an Intel XScale and not a Qualcomm.
1st quarter of next year should see some decent releases of the new hardware Tegra and Snapdragon with 12mp cams, 1 ghz cpus and video recording at 720p, perhaps then the Uni will finally have a decent replacement.
I must say though that my Rhodium is no slug, the keyboard is nice and big more than enough ram (GPS is functional, though not great it does the job satisfactorily) I can't really say I miss the Uni that much after switching over to the Rhodium................ each to their own.
Hold out till next year and be tempted with the new hardware.
Cheers,
Beasty
Does the Qualcomm have a serial or USB port (USB host)? I have no idea but I know that much older chips did have (Intel StrongArm in HP Jornada for example - but was not used and also PXA250 have it). If yes and if it can be found somewhere on the PCB of the UNI, then this can be used for GPS connection, or something else. Just an idea....
kerda said:
Does the Qualcomm have a serial or USB port (USB host)? I have no idea but I know that much older chips did have (Intel StrongArm in HP Jornada for example - but was not used and also PXA250 have it). If yes and if it can be found somewhere on the PCB of the UNI, then this can be used for GPS connection, or something else. Just an idea....
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Both the Qualcomm and XScale can support USB host, they just require the correct drivers, the functions are available just need to be accessed via a driver. The problem the Uni has is that it has no built in GPS Chip, there is a placeholder on the mobo for a GPS chip, it was just never added. There were rumours that some of the very early Uni's (G3) had a chip but not activated.......... Personally I have never seen proof of this.
You can still use external GPS on Uni (as many do) via BT or USB/Serial connection. You do not need USB Host service for this function.
Cheers,
Beasty
Why try to upgrade Uni while has HTC X7500, X7501 and X7510
Let buy them...! (":')...!
See :
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=474
hunter79 said:
Why try to upgrade Uni while has HTC X7500, X7501 and X7510
Let buy them...! (":')...!
See :
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=474
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Because we like our Unis....?
Is it possible to get TF3D running on the MEGA for too?
I had installed it before, but TF3D start in an endless loop.
I dont think so, Mega doesnt support 3D, missing OpenGL driver (if i am not wrong)
Chriss, indeed don't do this.....there are some people who have it on similar devices (not Mega). Requires a lot of development.
Only solution for now wait till somebody has it done and reports it working....
Frank Caarls said:
Chriss, indeed don't do this.....there are some people who have it on similar devices (not Mega). Requires a lot of development.
Only solution for now wait till somebody has it done and reports it working....
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Had it may well be there is a solution ...
But thanks anyway!
mirost1 said:
I dont think so, Mega doesnt support 3D, missing OpenGL driver (if i am not wrong)
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hi, i have surfed a lot in the web and the results is:
MSM7225 528 is in touch2, snap, touch cruise, ecc ecc.
528mhz (overclocked by me at 640mhz)
and at this moment there aren't 3d drivers but when i copy 3dmapi.dll and openglES.dll in the windows directory i can run some 3d app.
i have installed also touchFlo3D and it start but not see well
help me to start 3d on this ppc please
How you overclocked MSM7225 , please share with us.
XxXPachaXxX said:
hi, i have surfed a lot in the web and the results is:
MSM7225 528 is in touch2, snap, touch cruise, ecc ecc.
528mhz (overclocked by me at 640mhz)
and at this moment there aren't 3d drivers but when i copy 3dmapi.dll and openglES.dll in the windows directory i can run some 3d app.
i have installed also touchFlo3D and it start but not see well
help me to start 3d on this ppc please
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Man I have to say this sounds great. It's good to finally see some more progress for this device. I hope that you can make a guide for overclocking the processor and that tf3d will be available soon
Correct me , but with only coping files and overclocking a few MHz above wouldn't do the job .... from all i've read , it seem that HARDWARELY Mega could't support TF3D , if i'm wrong then it's only a matter of time before some1 make our dream(1 of 2)* come true !
P.S. *our other dream is Android runnin on Mega ;]]
Android will be closer simply because more people are interested in that......
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How you overclocked MSM7225 , please share with us.
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Hi i used this tools...it's from HTC...but i want a 3d driver for mega
we all united can do this
Device on steroids..... Thanks for sharing!
Have you noticed real performance improvement? Any impact on apps like TomTom?
Want to try but am a little careful because of generating extra heat or battery drain. Did you notice this?
We are getting a bit off topic......found these 2 threads with info on overclocking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6564058
Some improvement reported in certain applications but also more battery. Otherwise seems stable app.
Frank C said:
Device on steroids..... Thanks for sharing!
Have you noticed real performance improvement? Any impact on apps like TomTom?
Want to try but am a little careful because of generating extra heat or battery drain. Did you notice this?
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Hi.
Yes it is completely faster, also in TouchFlo and Menu, Messages, Internet, ecc, ecc.
In my mega no extra heat of the phone. The only things is that the battery drains a little bit before...but life is same good...but with more speed increase
very nice team i wish i could see andriod and touch flo 3d on my mega
Yes, it is possible to run TF3D on Mega.
I have bought my Mega a month ago, and it is coming with TF3D from the operator or manufacturer.
It is running pretty good and fast. Battery lasts 4-5 days.
I think that these "Mega"s, that are produced last year are coming with TF3D and newer ROM from the manufacturer.
Could you post some pics with TF3D running and also the specs of your MEGA??
Because it is impossible to run TF3D with the original processor and RAM.
ddsimeonov said:
Yes, it is possible to run TF3D on Mega.
I have bought my Mega a month ago, and it is coming with TF3D from the operator or manufacturer.
It is running pretty good and fast. Battery lasts 4-5 days.
I think that these "Mega"s, that are produced last year are coming with TF3D and newer ROM from the manufacturer.
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yes i am curious too
Over clocking problems
Guys, over clocking may damage the device, as written on the HTC Performance config.
Still if it's working fine, just let me know.
it is ! work fine more than 8 monts
Just checking up on this thread, is there any news on the mega having 3D?http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/confused.gif