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JAM is dead ..Creash no power just blank screen

Hi all ,
I was updateing my JAM ROM with USB.. everything work fine.. but i guess i had upload Arbic ROM on PM-10A which support WWE, after upgrade my JAM was keep rebooting so i try to download WWE ROM from imate FTP and meanwhile i Remove Bettery of my JAM and once i install battry back they is no power nothing just blank screen. seems bootloader gone? is there chance i can repair.. i do NOT have warrnaty on it , service center say they need to change MotherBoard. is there any other way i can reload bootloader and then upgrade orignal ROM?? pls. help........( SORRY for MY English as i m Arbic Native ).[/b]

Don't know why you removed the battery. What happens when you do the soft or hard-reset? Tried pressing power & camera & soft-reset at the same time for some secs, till bootloader should appear? I don't think it's really broken as you said it was loading the OS whili you removed the battery.
Cheers, M

I think the bootloader itself can get corrupted whilst doing the upgrade..but only when using a 'modified' ROM...
I did the same thing to mine back in the time when BigStorage was the in thing.
My JAM was totally dead like yours and I did have to send it back to service center.
But saying that, I recently had forgot to charge the battery (whilst doing a ROM upgrade) and everything went totally dead then too- i was worried that I had fried the device one again- but I left it to charge overnight (initially there were no LEDs of any sort), the next day, the amber/yellow LED was lit- did a hard reset and things were back to normal.
I don't think any sort of factory ROM would 'fry' your device- it's only because I tried to modify the bits for BigStorage that led to a corrupt bootloader and therefore a dead device.
Like 'oltp' says- it seems highly unlikely that your device is totally dead.

tnx for reply guy's, i did Tried pressing power & camera & soft-reset at the same time for some secs.. but nothing comeing on screen.as you said may be bettery is not charged as when i stared ROM update i had 50% charged. now when i try to charge with USB no LED.. .. but some how i do not belive service center guy.. that " board burn" need to change board as i have just done ROM update from IMATE web. but tomorow i ll get it back from service center and give try with new battery and let you know ppl..

I really wish you all the best & I do think those guys do know & try everything. They just replaced mine as it was really dead two weeks ago.
Too bad you're not having so much luck.
Cheers, M

hi all ,
Finally my JAM is up and Running without changing Mboard. as i suspect it was battery problem I borrow my friend full Charged battery and did Boot loader with Cam+Power+SoftReset and then connect with USB and reload ROM and now it up and running fine .. and then i replaced with my original battery

Great to hear that.

wrong rom update

After I mistakelt upgrade my s200 with a Kjam rom, the device will not turn on again, now I need to boot from the sd card has anyone an OS backup which work on Sd card?
I ll try to alive the device from sd card but I dont know how I copy the os to the sd card.

Do you have the bootloader alive?

thanks for your help, no I could only reach to Bootscreen when the wall charger plugged, but naturally I could not update the rom from the charger, so I think the only solution is using a backup image from the sd card.

laleyandasvivenporsiempre said:
thanks for your help, no I could only reach to Bootscreen when the wall charger plugged, but naturally I could not update the rom from the charger, so I think the only solution is using a backup image from the sd card.
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AFAIK, it means that your battery is empty. Try to charge the battery with any working S200/100/110/9100 and you will be able to run the bootloader, then you will restore the device. Correct me, if I wrong.

the problem is not about the charger or battery, although the battery 100% it still cant be opened the problem is after load the Kjam ROM, the device reject to open, it could onyl turn on if the wall charger is pluged however I could plug the USB data cable at the same time. I send it to the service center hope they could recover the device...

laleyandasvivenporsiempre said:
the problem is not about the charger or battery, although the battery 100% it still cant be opened the problem is after load the Kjam ROM, the device reject to open, it could onyl turn on if the wall charger is pluged however I could plug the USB data cable at the same time. I send it to the service center hope they could recover the device...
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This behaviour is typicel for a device with both broken image and discharged battery. The battery WAS at 100%, but the Prophet does not charge it if has no working OS, so the batery was drained until you tryed to reanimate the device. Ensure that the pattery is full with other, working device.

Walker;
I charge the battery with an other prophet I ll wait untill the light become green and battery is 100% then after when I tried with the boken prophet it did not reanimate the device. it is very interesting to see that wizard could work with prohet's rom but not vice versa

Flash wrong ROM consequences
Let me relate my experiences; exactly the same problem.
Update KJAM rom on DOPOD 818Pro ... Damn phone could not power on at all, at most on bootloader, plugin USB cable --> no USB word displayed at bottom.
Try to flash any RUU also no go ...
ON battery, could not power up at all, only plug in wall charger then managed to get to bootloader ... so all was lost.
Send to EBAY (where i bought from) and they flash the bloody Dopod 830 ROM..
During collection, plugin my own battery, same cannot power up... evidently the flash to Kjam killed my battery too !
The good thing was that with the 830 rom, my IPL became 2.16 (from 1.00).
So i reflashed to Dopod latest 2.15 ROM ok... further flash to AKU 2.3 hacked ROM also no problem.
SO, ultimately the cause was a killed battery from the ROM update.
Use a meter to measure contact pt 1 & 2 from top edge of battery, (supposed to be min 4.7V) I believe it's 0V or totally shorted out.
This battery cannot power on the phone, but still can be used as spare battery by power up with wall charger first, the battery still has it's 3.7V available to sustain operation.
So u can go buy a new battery and Flash to the correct ROM now.
Good Luck

to buyaoxiao;
Thanks for your comments but;
I think there is something more serious than the battery; I have two prophets, and I also try with the other's battery and still nothing happened, more than that, both of the batteries work with the non-broken prophet.

Flash wrong ROM
Hmm.. that may be true also.
I cannot really conclude as i was lucky the ebay shop i bought from agree to flash my S200.. i believed they had some trouble too as it took them a week to get it to Dopod 830 rom ... when normally they say 1 day will do. They refused to go into specifics though... (afraid that i demand for 1-1 exchange)

I have had the same problem, so that's why I decide to sent to dealer to try to fix it. Now I'm expect to have a call to pick it up. Hope they can improve my prophet to the new chip G4.
I tryed several times, hours to fix it, but no way. Sorry I can not tell you something good.

I am sure that there should be a way to fix those devices Jtag should not be the only way( if it really works) it is meaningless to loose a device only because of a wrong rom update

downgrade problem

hey all,
i have tried to downgrade my qtek s200 with the CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe software i found here.. after everything went quite well, when the phone restarted, the screen started to flash on and off.. and when i dont take the batteries out, the screen, the power led and the bluetooth led turns on and off repeatedly..
any suggestions on what i should do?
thanks..

i have exact the same proplem now
i have exact the same proplem now

Same Problem
Remove the battery - whait about 3 min. - plug ac power cable without your battery - put the battery - when the orange light on, turn on your device.
back to the life, but not solve the problem.
sorry my english, i´m from brazil. (don´t speak english)

sarpsuerdas said:
hey all,
i have tried to downgrade my qtek s200 with the CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe software i found here.. after everything went quite well, when the phone restarted, the screen started to flash on and off.. and when i dont take the batteries out, the screen, the power led and the bluetooth led turns on and off repeatedly..
any suggestions on what i should do?
thanks..
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Sounds to me that you tried to flash a Wizard-ROM on a Prophet.
This is simply impossible, so you probably bricked your device.

well its somewhat working i'm on a prophet bootloader ipl 2.09 spl 2.20 right now and i'm using a crossbow rom from the wizard section right now... (camera is not working).
what you could try is cut the charger wire open and attach the inner cable to the first battery pin (physical top) and the outer wire to the fifth pin. then go into bootloader, connect to computer and flash a prophet rom which has spl and ipl included.
dou you have a g3 or g4 device? on which spl/ipl are you right now...

I did the same thing with my s200.
I remove cable and battery, insert adapter cable and then battery until I get a steady amber light (usually takes 2-4 attempts).
When it boots up I quickly replace the adapter cable with the computer cable and Active Sync works.
I would like to reflash it but I can't since my battery is reporting 0% always, even when the battery is fully charged and it's not charging either. (And I can't get into the bootloader either.)
@crOssy: are the batteries different between models? and if so, would your proposed wiring actually work? have it been tested?

Did wm 6.1 kill my wizard???????????

hellow to all . i resently installed wm 6.1 on my wizard and eventualy the battery ran out ,so i connected the charger and to my suprise it did not charge so i tryed with another charger and the same result. the thing is it was working perfictly with wm 5.0 and ever since wm 6.1 this happend.to do the install i used awizard to do the ulocking bouth sim and cid then i down graded the IPL and then flashed the PTG rom and it worked perfectly intil the battery situation.when i plug the charger the red light turns on but thats all it does , and it stays that way for days in a row . ive tryed two diffrent battries. can any one help or give any ideas on this situation, thanks in advance.

Most likely you have flashed a G3 IPL and SPL to a G4 device. If it is the case, then sorry that you've got a brick.

the device is a g3 and ipl spl is g3 the olny thing im not sure about is the rom,here is the link from where i got it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...d=1#post2601705 , can any body tell me if g3 or g4 rom...thanks

please post the full link, its not complete..it gives a 404 Error

There is no G4-only ROM, all custom ROMs now are G3 and G4 capable.
Try to press the reset hole and see if it goes to RUU or not. If it still doesn't power off even though the charge light became green, then there may be a hardware error.

the problem you are experiencing imay be the amp on your charger.
Only an HTC wall charger can revive a flat dead battery.
This charger should say that it is 1Amp (1000ma)
If you use a charger from a motorola/blackeberry/USB charger it will not help you in this case.
Check your amp.
If you do not have an official wall charger, then the only way to revive is to get a new battery

yes i agree with SVI, because i myself faced this probm, when i got a new batt..i had to charge it fully firstt :/ but i went on with the upgrades..and the batt died on me..i used a motorola v3 charger but didnt work..then i went to the shop owner to replace it..and he said that there is a special chargers for these HTC phones, i bought that and its working perfectly now

hey guys thanks for the replies and ive tryed all those solutions ,the wall charger from my htc trinity and the wall charger from the qtek wizard it self and neather do anything.
the only thing that dose work is putting the battery from my trinity and holding it with my hand in place. it turns on but it dosent stay on for long .
it turns off in the following maner the screen starts going white and it stays that way.
i tryed going to bootloader mode and i succeaded but then it turned to the white screen.
changing the subject the IPL is 1.01 and the SPL is 2.18 the rom is a 6.1 ptg rom here is the link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2601705&posted=1#post2601705 this link works i tested it. can anybody tell me if this rom is for g3 or g4 devices, the device with wm5 works fine . or can it be from the IPL and SPL not being the same. can any one tell me why this is happaning iv flashed so many devices and never had this problem . i my self have a qtek magicion, a htc trinity and a qtek prophet. well hope for some help thanks again.

Yes, first step is to ensure that you have a fully charged battery, a new battery is not fully charged so a desktop charger will be helpfull.
The IPL SPL difference is discussed by Dr Puttingham post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 step 16
"Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking."
Hopefully you can maintain bootload (press and hold camera button on start-up) with the new battery
Anouther hopefully usefull post is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
Best of luck

ademim said:
hellow to all . i resently installed wm 6.1 on my wizard and eventualy the battery ran out ,so i connected the charger and to my suprise it did not charge so i tryed with another charger and the same result. the thing is it was working perfictly with wm 5.0 and ever since wm 6.1 this happend.to do the install i used awizard to do the ulocking bouth sim and cid then i down graded the IPL and then flashed the PTG rom and it worked perfectly intil the battery situation.when i plug the charger the red light turns on but thats all it does , and it stays that way for days in a row . ive tryed two diffrent battries. can any one help or give any ideas on this situation, thanks in advance.
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Its sounds like a battery drain partial brick. Under normal situations, the phone will shut down before the battery is completely drained. This is so you don't end up with a completely dead battery. Sometimes, like when the phone is frozen or at the bootloader screen it will run itself completely dead. It sounds to me like you have a completely dead battery. To charge under normal conditions, your battery has to have enough juice to boot the phone one more time. See, when you plug your phone in, if its not on, it will turn on. During boot, there is no connection between charger and battery...the battery has to have enough juice to make it through boot at which point the phone enables the charger. The way I fixed my battery brick was by cutting the end off of a usb cable, striping the wires, and jumping a charge onto the battery.
Please refer to this blog for a description of the steps involved in this process:
http://www.asktheadmin.com/2007/06/htc-wizardcingular-8125-dead-battery_21.html

could be as stupid as the ongoing connection initiated by activesync:
check the schedule settings and change it to manually.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=samsung&message.id=62948

Problem WM6.5,

Hello guys, first of all i would apologize for my last thread in which i posted a ware, im sorry for that. Anyways i have a problem. I updated my SDA with WM6.5.21234 Standard by Gregory Full. I've been using it for 2 weeks and today i installed the HTC Tornado Radio 02.61.01 from this post (b : WM6 => "the remote party has ended this connection") (i cannot post the link :s) ... and now when i switch on the phone the 1st load screen comes and the mobile is switched of I even tried re-flashing the ROM but no luck.

How far did the flash of the radio package succeed? There is a distribution file that updates the IPL + SPL before the Radio - the flashing stops at several % values but it must continue to 100% and do an automatic reboot.
What do the lines say on the 3-color screen if you go to the bootloader mode?

everything went well, the phone restarted automatically after installation and never turned on =( ... it say's
IPL 1.00
SPL 1.00.0014
Tornado IU

Are you sure about 1.00 for IPL and SPL?
They are quite old - the latest are 2.00 and 2.0..14
I suggest the following sequence:
1.) load the stock ROM from your operator -> check the status for IPL and SPL
2.) update to the latest IPL and SPL and Radio with the combined package from Nitrogens tagline -> check if the Stock ROM still works
3.) load the cooked ROMs as the cooks indicate to do (take care about the format BINFS <size>)

i ddnt get the first step

oooh yeah Thnkx alot man this forum rocks its ok now =)
thnkx for your help

The stock ROM is the one that is on the orginal device as it is "on stock" when you buy it in a shop. As you have Super-CID your device already, you can take any other Tornado "stock" ROM from any vendor - as you like.
The advantage of stock-ROMs is that they are usually complete and everything in there matches to the other. So if such a ROM works - your device does not have problem.
Then you can start to replace pieces one after the other...

got it .... thanks for your help =)

I'm in a little bit of a problem with my i-mate sp5. i upgraded to the wm6.5 and now the orange light by the ear piece keeps flashing as if its charging even when its not plugged it. everytime i restart it i get a different battery level. i brought a new battery and it does the same thing but it doesn't charge. any suggestions? This my i-mate burnt up?

Get back to a stock ROM to see if it is a device problem. If it works ok with the original ROM, then the battery and/or LED driver are screwed in the WM65 ROM. Be sure you load a ROM that has the proper Tornado OEM drivers cooked into it.

Yea i tried that too. Im still not about to charge it fully. the phone seems to get hot too. I thing maybe the phone is burnt out. Is there a place where i can use it as a trade-in or have it refurbished or is it best i jus buy a new one

yea i tried that already. it does the same thing. the phone wont died unless i take it off the charger but it will not charge all the way with either battery and the phone is always hot. with the old battery the charge icon stayed up even without the charger being connected but the charge icon never comes up for the new battery even if the charger is connected. with the new battery it charges a little then it will die very fast because its still tries to charge itself after i disconnect the battery. one time i set the cpu to 228mhz and it overheated and wouldn't come back on until i flashed it again. you think thats th problem? maybe theres a burnt out board or something

The HW controlling the charge is controlled via 2 different methods:
- phone off: the bootloader
- phone on: the windows driver
If the "phone off" gives the same results - try a different battery. The HW inside the phone is hard to break imho.