downgrade problem - JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading

hey all,
i have tried to downgrade my qtek s200 with the CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe software i found here.. after everything went quite well, when the phone restarted, the screen started to flash on and off.. and when i dont take the batteries out, the screen, the power led and the bluetooth led turns on and off repeatedly..
any suggestions on what i should do?
thanks..

i have exact the same proplem now
i have exact the same proplem now

Same Problem
Remove the battery - whait about 3 min. - plug ac power cable without your battery - put the battery - when the orange light on, turn on your device.
back to the life, but not solve the problem.
sorry my english, i´m from brazil. (don´t speak english)

sarpsuerdas said:
hey all,
i have tried to downgrade my qtek s200 with the CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe software i found here.. after everything went quite well, when the phone restarted, the screen started to flash on and off.. and when i dont take the batteries out, the screen, the power led and the bluetooth led turns on and off repeatedly..
any suggestions on what i should do?
thanks..
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Sounds to me that you tried to flash a Wizard-ROM on a Prophet.
This is simply impossible, so you probably bricked your device.

well its somewhat working i'm on a prophet bootloader ipl 2.09 spl 2.20 right now and i'm using a crossbow rom from the wizard section right now... (camera is not working).
what you could try is cut the charger wire open and attach the inner cable to the first battery pin (physical top) and the outer wire to the fifth pin. then go into bootloader, connect to computer and flash a prophet rom which has spl and ipl included.
dou you have a g3 or g4 device? on which spl/ipl are you right now...

I did the same thing with my s200.
I remove cable and battery, insert adapter cable and then battery until I get a steady amber light (usually takes 2-4 attempts).
When it boots up I quickly replace the adapter cable with the computer cable and Active Sync works.
I would like to reflash it but I can't since my battery is reporting 0% always, even when the battery is fully charged and it's not charging either. (And I can't get into the bootloader either.)
@crOssy: are the batteries different between models? and if so, would your proposed wiring actually work? have it been tested?

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wrong rom update

After I mistakelt upgrade my s200 with a Kjam rom, the device will not turn on again, now I need to boot from the sd card has anyone an OS backup which work on Sd card?
I ll try to alive the device from sd card but I dont know how I copy the os to the sd card.
Do you have the bootloader alive?
thanks for your help, no I could only reach to Bootscreen when the wall charger plugged, but naturally I could not update the rom from the charger, so I think the only solution is using a backup image from the sd card.
laleyandasvivenporsiempre said:
thanks for your help, no I could only reach to Bootscreen when the wall charger plugged, but naturally I could not update the rom from the charger, so I think the only solution is using a backup image from the sd card.
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AFAIK, it means that your battery is empty. Try to charge the battery with any working S200/100/110/9100 and you will be able to run the bootloader, then you will restore the device. Correct me, if I wrong.
the problem is not about the charger or battery, although the battery 100% it still cant be opened the problem is after load the Kjam ROM, the device reject to open, it could onyl turn on if the wall charger is pluged however I could plug the USB data cable at the same time. I send it to the service center hope they could recover the device...
laleyandasvivenporsiempre said:
the problem is not about the charger or battery, although the battery 100% it still cant be opened the problem is after load the Kjam ROM, the device reject to open, it could onyl turn on if the wall charger is pluged however I could plug the USB data cable at the same time. I send it to the service center hope they could recover the device...
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This behaviour is typicel for a device with both broken image and discharged battery. The battery WAS at 100%, but the Prophet does not charge it if has no working OS, so the batery was drained until you tryed to reanimate the device. Ensure that the pattery is full with other, working device.
Walker;
I charge the battery with an other prophet I ll wait untill the light become green and battery is 100% then after when I tried with the boken prophet it did not reanimate the device. it is very interesting to see that wizard could work with prohet's rom but not vice versa
Flash wrong ROM consequences
Let me relate my experiences; exactly the same problem.
Update KJAM rom on DOPOD 818Pro ... Damn phone could not power on at all, at most on bootloader, plugin USB cable --> no USB word displayed at bottom.
Try to flash any RUU also no go ...
ON battery, could not power up at all, only plug in wall charger then managed to get to bootloader ... so all was lost.
Send to EBAY (where i bought from) and they flash the bloody Dopod 830 ROM..
During collection, plugin my own battery, same cannot power up... evidently the flash to Kjam killed my battery too !
The good thing was that with the 830 rom, my IPL became 2.16 (from 1.00).
So i reflashed to Dopod latest 2.15 ROM ok... further flash to AKU 2.3 hacked ROM also no problem.
SO, ultimately the cause was a killed battery from the ROM update.
Use a meter to measure contact pt 1 & 2 from top edge of battery, (supposed to be min 4.7V) I believe it's 0V or totally shorted out.
This battery cannot power on the phone, but still can be used as spare battery by power up with wall charger first, the battery still has it's 3.7V available to sustain operation.
So u can go buy a new battery and Flash to the correct ROM now.
Good Luck
to buyaoxiao;
Thanks for your comments but;
I think there is something more serious than the battery; I have two prophets, and I also try with the other's battery and still nothing happened, more than that, both of the batteries work with the non-broken prophet.
Flash wrong ROM
Hmm.. that may be true also.
I cannot really conclude as i was lucky the ebay shop i bought from agree to flash my S200.. i believed they had some trouble too as it took them a week to get it to Dopod 830 rom ... when normally they say 1 day will do. They refused to go into specifics though... (afraid that i demand for 1-1 exchange)
I have had the same problem, so that's why I decide to sent to dealer to try to fix it. Now I'm expect to have a call to pick it up. Hope they can improve my prophet to the new chip G4.
I tryed several times, hours to fix it, but no way. Sorry I can not tell you something good.
I am sure that there should be a way to fix those devices Jtag should not be the only way( if it really works) it is meaningless to loose a device only because of a wrong rom update

My prophet doesnt recognize the battery

my prophet cant recognize the battery ....i can turn on the device sometimes and when i go to seetings\battery\it's 0% i have alredy try other batteries that are fine in other devices ....i try to flash the rom but the update utility cant recognize the battey and dont let me flash it help please....
oh god i am so new and fresh...so many problems with my prophet help me guys
no one can give me the drivers for the battery !!!!
i cant find it .....i think that is the solution
please help me
maybe get a new battery? AFAIK, there are no drivers for batteries
wanwarlock said:
maybe get a new battery? AFAIK, there are no drivers for batteries
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i have alredy try other batteries that are fine in other devices
the device dosent have the right drivers for the prophet because the rom get an error while flashing
Have you flashed a ROM before?
If the battery is not working in your device, try checking the connections. There are no 'drivers' for the battery, I can flash a ROM in bootloader after flashing a ROM with nothing in it, which means that the RUU is using the hardware rather than software to determine the battery status.
i cant flash again the pro+het because the update utility verify the battery status and then give an error because the prophet doesnt have more than 50 of battery . . . help please
My prophet had the same issue in the past weeks.
I had to restart several times until the phone recognize the batery.
The issue is not only at the OS level because even with the phone turned off it was not able to charge (you can see because of the orange lid).
Sometimes the phone just stoped recognizing the batery and the charge value just stops decreasing.
My guess is that this is related to some ROM's i've been testing, have you switched ROM in the past weeks?
Last night i started using iProphet 1.0.2.3 (sounds familiar? l3v5y) and until now i'm not having problems. (Just appears to consume a lot of batery but ill confirm this in the next days).
The battery drain may be because of the camera. but you can remove it if you want. (it is an installed app)
I think the issue is to do with the hardware, and so upgrading the software will not help. If your charging circuit is damaged, the battery will not be detected. If the device is under warranty, I would suggest getting it repaired...
I've just been looking at the Universal Wiki and I may have a solution:
Solution 3: Recalibrate the battery (2)
Charge the battery overnight with the supplied poweradapter, not with the USB cable
Drain the battery without SD-card, powersaving off and backlight on full
At some level, the device will turn off. Switch it on and go to the bootloader and drain the battery until it's really empty
Charge the battery again with the supplied poweradapter
The idea of this is to completely discharge and then recharge the battery, so that the battery status monitoring system in the battery is reset.
I had a same prob, tested with new battery problem continues...
also help needed over here
Hi All,
After installing Prophet_G3_G4_RadioRom_v2.69.21.exe onto my QTEK S200 it's completely dead. I cannot start it up anymore, even with the battery connected to power. The orange charging light doesn't even go on. I don't get anything here, no QTEK screen, no boot, no nothing even after pressing the button for several seconds.
Anybody knows what happened? Is my battery dead? When I connect the QTEK to the power supply without the battery inserted, the light flashes red for a short second and then... nothing... The battery was almost fully charged when I started the upgrade. IPL was at 2.20.
euh... help!!!
I've already opened a thread for this but anyway... help help
I'm afraid i cannot help you much...
When that happend to me i just made several resets and tryed to start charging until it worked.
After that i've changed the ROM i was using and my batery seems to work better now. Sometimes if i overclock it stop's getting the correct batery values but never stop charging like it used to.
Try charging with diferent methods, a couple of times i was trying to charge with the standart (power line) cable and only worked if i used usb connected to my pc. Maybe a different voltage worked... i'm not sure.
Best of luck
Hi mate...
i have the same problem tooo..
but this is because i have flashed my dopod 818pro..
i use CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE...
i can go to bootloader screen and go to the windows but i have to attached the prophet to the charger, because it will go death if just in battery mode..
please help me...
thank you...

QTEK S200 completely dead after upgrade

Hi All,
After installing Prophet_G3_G4_RadioRom_v2.69.21.exe onto my QTEK S200 it's completely dead. I cannot start it up anymore, even with the battery connected to power. The orange charging light doesn't even go on. I don't get anything here, no QTEK screen, no boot, no nothing even after pressing the button for several seconds.
Anybody knows what happened? Is my battery dead? When I connect the QTEK to the power supply without the battery inserted, the light flashes red for a short second and then... nothing... The battery was almost fully charged when I started the upgrade. IPL was at 2.20.
euh... help!!!
I guess you are having hardware problems, otherwise you would see a error screen... like the stuck qtek splash screen or the bootloader
coolb4all said:
Hi All,
After installing Prophet_G3_G4_RadioRom_v2.69.21.exe onto my QTEK S200 it's completely dead. I cannot start it up anymore, even with the battery connected to power. The orange charging light doesn't even go on. I don't get anything here, no QTEK screen, no boot, no nothing even after pressing the button for several seconds.
Anybody knows what happened? Is my battery dead? When I connect the QTEK to the power supply without the battery inserted, the light flashes red for a short second and then... nothing... The battery was almost fully charged when I started the upgrade. IPL was at 2.20.
euh... help!!!
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Can you read spanish?
http://www.todopdas.es/forumdisplay.php?f=23
quiet, thast has solution
I have the same problem
any solution for this problem? the device is completely dead!!
remove you battery and charge it at an external power suply (universal charger for example) and then put it back and see if there is any result.

Did wm 6.1 kill my wizard???????????

hellow to all . i resently installed wm 6.1 on my wizard and eventualy the battery ran out ,so i connected the charger and to my suprise it did not charge so i tryed with another charger and the same result. the thing is it was working perfictly with wm 5.0 and ever since wm 6.1 this happend.to do the install i used awizard to do the ulocking bouth sim and cid then i down graded the IPL and then flashed the PTG rom and it worked perfectly intil the battery situation.when i plug the charger the red light turns on but thats all it does , and it stays that way for days in a row . ive tryed two diffrent battries. can any one help or give any ideas on this situation, thanks in advance.
Most likely you have flashed a G3 IPL and SPL to a G4 device. If it is the case, then sorry that you've got a brick.
the device is a g3 and ipl spl is g3 the olny thing im not sure about is the rom,here is the link from where i got it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...d=1#post2601705 , can any body tell me if g3 or g4 rom...thanks
please post the full link, its not complete..it gives a 404 Error
There is no G4-only ROM, all custom ROMs now are G3 and G4 capable.
Try to press the reset hole and see if it goes to RUU or not. If it still doesn't power off even though the charge light became green, then there may be a hardware error.
the problem you are experiencing imay be the amp on your charger.
Only an HTC wall charger can revive a flat dead battery.
This charger should say that it is 1Amp (1000ma)
If you use a charger from a motorola/blackeberry/USB charger it will not help you in this case.
Check your amp.
If you do not have an official wall charger, then the only way to revive is to get a new battery
yes i agree with SVI, because i myself faced this probm, when i got a new batt..i had to charge it fully firstt :/ but i went on with the upgrades..and the batt died on me..i used a motorola v3 charger but didnt work..then i went to the shop owner to replace it..and he said that there is a special chargers for these HTC phones, i bought that and its working perfectly now
hey guys thanks for the replies and ive tryed all those solutions ,the wall charger from my htc trinity and the wall charger from the qtek wizard it self and neather do anything.
the only thing that dose work is putting the battery from my trinity and holding it with my hand in place. it turns on but it dosent stay on for long .
it turns off in the following maner the screen starts going white and it stays that way.
i tryed going to bootloader mode and i succeaded but then it turned to the white screen.
changing the subject the IPL is 1.01 and the SPL is 2.18 the rom is a 6.1 ptg rom here is the link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2601705&posted=1#post2601705 this link works i tested it. can anybody tell me if this rom is for g3 or g4 devices, the device with wm5 works fine . or can it be from the IPL and SPL not being the same. can any one tell me why this is happaning iv flashed so many devices and never had this problem . i my self have a qtek magicion, a htc trinity and a qtek prophet. well hope for some help thanks again.
Yes, first step is to ensure that you have a fully charged battery, a new battery is not fully charged so a desktop charger will be helpfull.
The IPL SPL difference is discussed by Dr Puttingham post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 step 16
"Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking."
Hopefully you can maintain bootload (press and hold camera button on start-up) with the new battery
Anouther hopefully usefull post is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
Best of luck
ademim said:
hellow to all . i resently installed wm 6.1 on my wizard and eventualy the battery ran out ,so i connected the charger and to my suprise it did not charge so i tryed with another charger and the same result. the thing is it was working perfictly with wm 5.0 and ever since wm 6.1 this happend.to do the install i used awizard to do the ulocking bouth sim and cid then i down graded the IPL and then flashed the PTG rom and it worked perfectly intil the battery situation.when i plug the charger the red light turns on but thats all it does , and it stays that way for days in a row . ive tryed two diffrent battries. can any one help or give any ideas on this situation, thanks in advance.
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Its sounds like a battery drain partial brick. Under normal situations, the phone will shut down before the battery is completely drained. This is so you don't end up with a completely dead battery. Sometimes, like when the phone is frozen or at the bootloader screen it will run itself completely dead. It sounds to me like you have a completely dead battery. To charge under normal conditions, your battery has to have enough juice to boot the phone one more time. See, when you plug your phone in, if its not on, it will turn on. During boot, there is no connection between charger and battery...the battery has to have enough juice to make it through boot at which point the phone enables the charger. The way I fixed my battery brick was by cutting the end off of a usb cable, striping the wires, and jumping a charge onto the battery.
Please refer to this blog for a description of the steps involved in this process:
http://www.asktheadmin.com/2007/06/htc-wizardcingular-8125-dead-battery_21.html
could be as stupid as the ongoing connection initiated by activesync:
check the schedule settings and change it to manually.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=samsung&message.id=62948

No more bootloader no more nothing, after rom upgrade s200

Hi All,
I've tried to upgrade the ROM of my QTEK S200.
It got completely stuck!!! I had to remove the battery. Now it stays black. Even a hard-reset does nothing. No bootloader, no white screen, nothing. It's like the device doesn't recognize the battery anymore. Same problem with another battery. When I connect the power supply, the light stays red for 5 seconds and then goes out again. No charging (orange) light.
Does this mean that the device was short-cutted (hardware problem) or can this be fixed with some manipulation?
Anybody an idea how I can fix the hardware (if broken) myself? Can't be to difficult if it just blew a fuse ;-)
Thanks
If the accu not charge, I think he is dead. You need a new one. For flashing new rom, you need a good acco over 50 %. Than you go to bootloader modus and flash a WM5 Rom WM5Rom.
coolb4all said:
Hi All,
I've tried to upgrade the ROM of my QTEK S200.
It got completely stuck!!! I had to remove the battery. Now it stays black. Even a hard-reset does nothing. No bootloader, no white screen, nothing. It's like the device doesn't recognize the battery anymore. Same problem with another battery. When I connect the power supply, the light stays red for 5 seconds and then goes out again. No charging (orange) light.
Does this mean that the device was short-cutted (hardware problem) or can this be fixed with some manipulation?
Anybody an idea how I can fix the hardware (if broken) myself? Can't be to difficult if it just blew a fuse ;-)
Thanks
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Yep, hes dead alrite, make a good paper weight sorry bro...
not the battery
of course I tried a new battery
same problem
Can you make a downgrade to WM5 ? Ist the battery charged now ?
DC Adapter 4,5 V
I had the same problem.
Remove the battery and connect the pin nr 1 (nearest to the cam) to + and the pin nr 5 to -. I think 3,7 to 5 V is ok. Then bootloader and connect to computer.
Don't blame me if anything goes bad ;-)
how to proceed?
I've tried to do as explained...
I've taken an old charger (5v) and connected the cables (black/white striped to 1 and black to 5). I'm not 100 percent sure about + and -, but normally black is always -, if I'm not mistakin'
What should happen? How should I proceed?
My device does nothing... No light. Power button does nothing, hard reset does nothing.
Does this procedure work with a QTEK S200?
Maybe the charger (old gsm) is too old or broken?
Maybe + is black...
Sooo many options ;-)
Worked on mine S200
Of course You must know if the adapter is working and +/-.
When I connected 1 to + and 5 to - I could operate the mobile as if the battery was mounted and working.
My problem began because the battery isn't charging in bootloader mode.
And I'm still stuck there... Because it's a G4 device flashed with G3 SPL... Anyone got a suggestion how to solve this?
JustBored said:
Of course You must know if the adapter is working and +/-.
When I connected 1 to + and 5 to - I could operate the mobile as if the battery was mounted and working.
My problem began because the battery isn't charging in bootloader mode.
And I'm still stuck there... Because it's a G4 device flashed with G3 SPL... Anyone got a suggestion how to solve this?
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I Did the same thing '''''HELP"""
What you should do
Keep the device on for 2 hours connect it to the electricity.
Install the original rom with the PDA connected like that to the PC, if it does not enter the Rom update continue trying by doing a hard reset with the stylus and pressing the left com button on the left side of the device, then retry the rom install, if it says unable to connect continue trying, using the procedure i explained before, thats what i did when the same stuff happen to me i was without my device working for a month, now i´m using WM6 with the Diamond Rom, so its possible, to do this you just have to keep trying.
my prophet is block and after try of hard reboot is dont turn on.. its not turn on on any way, no detect charger ether ( no red led ) battery was almost full when its go off..
plz help, can i try 1-5 pins solution?
srbwap said:
my prophet is block and after try of hard reboot is dont turn on.. its not turn on on any way, no detect charger ether ( no red led ) battery was almost full when its go off..
plz help, can i try 1-5 pins solution?
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My friend. A few people have tried the pin method and one or two have succeeded. IMHO i would not try it, for fear of frying your phone, yourself or starting a fire.
Take out the battery for a good couple of hours. Take out SIm card and SD card. Put battery back in and try to charge for at least 5 hours, even if the light does not show (might just be LED issue).
Then see if you can start in boot loader, u now how to yes? (keep camera button pressed, soft reset with stylus, then let go of camera button after few sconds). What happens?
pins to power
I've tried connecting the extreme small pins to the (big) cables of the charger but nothing happens over here. The screen stays black.
To All,
Any hints on how to connect these cables to the pins, without the fact that they're constantly coming off the pins and constantly touching other pins?
You try and tell me about your experience ;-)
revive prophet revive ;-)
I was just playing with my qtek when I noticed that after connecting and disconnecting it to the AC for 5 times or so (with red light going on and off for a second), it tries to startup, but drops dead after a fraction of a second. Damned ;-) No chance of going into bootloader.
Almost there ;-))
coolb4all said:
I was just playing with my qtek when I noticed that after connecting and disconnecting it to the AC for 5 times or so (with red light going on and off for a second), it tries to startup, but drops dead after a fraction of a second. Damned ;-) No chance of going into bootloader.
Almost there ;-))
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keep it plugged in for about 5 hours, dont play with it or turn it on lol, give a go unless u have done already and just havent said
Direct Connection to 220v doesn't work
The workaround of connecting the pins directly to the charger doesn't seem to work on a QTEK S200 G4.
Since mine is a G4, I wasn't lucky... I'm left with a cut charger cable.
I'll try to charge it for 5 hours but since no led is going on I don't think this will have any effect.
Listen keep it plug in to the electricity for 12 hours, then try to put it in bootloader mode by pressing the, com button on the left side of the device after you hard reset it, with the stylus after you manage to enter the bootloader mode, you only need to follow the steps described on several posts on the forum.
if nothing works connect the device and try to install the original rom, my device is a g3 so i´m not sure if the g4 works the same way.

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