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After I mistakelt upgrade my s200 with a Kjam rom, the device will not turn on again, now I need to boot from the sd card has anyone an OS backup which work on Sd card?
I ll try to alive the device from sd card but I dont know how I copy the os to the sd card.

Do you have the bootloader alive?

thanks for your help, no I could only reach to Bootscreen when the wall charger plugged, but naturally I could not update the rom from the charger, so I think the only solution is using a backup image from the sd card.

laleyandasvivenporsiempre said:
thanks for your help, no I could only reach to Bootscreen when the wall charger plugged, but naturally I could not update the rom from the charger, so I think the only solution is using a backup image from the sd card.
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AFAIK, it means that your battery is empty. Try to charge the battery with any working S200/100/110/9100 and you will be able to run the bootloader, then you will restore the device. Correct me, if I wrong.

the problem is not about the charger or battery, although the battery 100% it still cant be opened the problem is after load the Kjam ROM, the device reject to open, it could onyl turn on if the wall charger is pluged however I could plug the USB data cable at the same time. I send it to the service center hope they could recover the device...

laleyandasvivenporsiempre said:
the problem is not about the charger or battery, although the battery 100% it still cant be opened the problem is after load the Kjam ROM, the device reject to open, it could onyl turn on if the wall charger is pluged however I could plug the USB data cable at the same time. I send it to the service center hope they could recover the device...
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This behaviour is typicel for a device with both broken image and discharged battery. The battery WAS at 100%, but the Prophet does not charge it if has no working OS, so the batery was drained until you tryed to reanimate the device. Ensure that the pattery is full with other, working device.

Walker;
I charge the battery with an other prophet I ll wait untill the light become green and battery is 100% then after when I tried with the boken prophet it did not reanimate the device. it is very interesting to see that wizard could work with prohet's rom but not vice versa

Flash wrong ROM consequences
Let me relate my experiences; exactly the same problem.
Update KJAM rom on DOPOD 818Pro ... Damn phone could not power on at all, at most on bootloader, plugin USB cable --> no USB word displayed at bottom.
Try to flash any RUU also no go ...
ON battery, could not power up at all, only plug in wall charger then managed to get to bootloader ... so all was lost.
Send to EBAY (where i bought from) and they flash the bloody Dopod 830 ROM..
During collection, plugin my own battery, same cannot power up... evidently the flash to Kjam killed my battery too !
The good thing was that with the 830 rom, my IPL became 2.16 (from 1.00).
So i reflashed to Dopod latest 2.15 ROM ok... further flash to AKU 2.3 hacked ROM also no problem.
SO, ultimately the cause was a killed battery from the ROM update.
Use a meter to measure contact pt 1 & 2 from top edge of battery, (supposed to be min 4.7V) I believe it's 0V or totally shorted out.
This battery cannot power on the phone, but still can be used as spare battery by power up with wall charger first, the battery still has it's 3.7V available to sustain operation.
So u can go buy a new battery and Flash to the correct ROM now.
Good Luck

to buyaoxiao;
Thanks for your comments but;
I think there is something more serious than the battery; I have two prophets, and I also try with the other's battery and still nothing happened, more than that, both of the batteries work with the non-broken prophet.

Flash wrong ROM
Hmm.. that may be true also.
I cannot really conclude as i was lucky the ebay shop i bought from agree to flash my S200.. i believed they had some trouble too as it took them a week to get it to Dopod 830 rom ... when normally they say 1 day will do. They refused to go into specifics though... (afraid that i demand for 1-1 exchange)

I have had the same problem, so that's why I decide to sent to dealer to try to fix it. Now I'm expect to have a call to pick it up. Hope they can improve my prophet to the new chip G4.
I tryed several times, hours to fix it, but no way. Sorry I can not tell you something good.

I am sure that there should be a way to fix those devices Jtag should not be the only way( if it really works) it is meaningless to loose a device only because of a wrong rom update

O2 XDA Neo almost dead... Help please...

I have a XDA Neo German version IPL/SPL 2.15.0001. I tried the Qtek rom with no vendor ID (Qtek shipped rom + noID.exe from Dopod noID version) and it stopped at 1% saying that the .nbf image was not made for it (but it was). I never unplugged the cable and it stayed with the 1% progress bar for a few hours. After that, something strange happened: it started flickering in/out of the bootloader mode. The frequency of the flickering increased and now the bootloader appears after a greater period of time and it stays on for 1-2 secs. What do I have to do? As I am affraid of unplugging the device (it's not even mine ).
P.S.: I tried several times to run the updater again and again, but with no result (it said it was not connected, though for a short period of time the USB icon appeared while in bootloader mode). While in bootloader only IPL & SPL fields appear, not the OS... Is this normal?
Many thanks... Urgent action needed...

hi,
try to set in bootloader and reflash with on old version of rom.

This was already an older version... And it doesn not respond to the key-combination commands (with the cable connected) ... What shall I do? Because I dont't want to unplug it and render it dead...

I solved the problem
I replaced the battery with another one without disconnecting the device. The odd thing is that the battery was 0% charged, though at the beginning of the upgrade it was 100%...
I don't advise you do to the same, as I don't really know the cause of this event.
P.S.: Use the Dopod Asia NoVendorID rom!

D'evil69 said:
I replaced the battery with another one without disconnecting the device. The odd thing is that the battery was 0% charged, though at the beginning of the upgrade it was 100%...
I don't advise you do to the same, as I don't really know the cause of this event.
P.S.: Use the Dopod Asia NoVendorID rom
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Battery doesn't get charged during an upgrade (bootloader)

Jesterz said:
Battery doesn't get charged during an upgrade (bootloader)
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I didn't say that... It's obvious though: the AS connection is cut off... I emphasized the idea that the battery was deffective and discharged rapidly during the first minutes of the upgrading (when the device works solely on battery power, without being charged)... Did you get my meaning now?

HELP!!!Impossible to charge the battery,permanent RED Led

As i said on the title,suddenly i couldn't recharge my Universal anymore,yes i've tried with a brend new official battery as well but everything was in vain.As soon as i plug my charge to my Universal it appear a Red Led and after 3 min or so the led turn off and so the battery.
How can i fix this problem?!
Is there any chance?!
Is it really dead like that?!
Please HHHHHHHEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the battery is really brand new, then I guess the connectors might be damaged or the internal power buses might be broken somewhere. Have you dropped your device recently? Or did anything that might explain broken connectors or internal buses?

Nothing happened to my device and never felt down,it just happened suddenly!Now if i won't be able to fix this by myself this means a finger in da a.. cuz my warranty is expired!DAAAAAAAAMN

tetsuokaneda said:
Nothing happened to my device and never felt down,it just happened suddenly!Now if i won't be able to fix this by myself this means a finger in da a.. cuz my warranty is expired!DAAAAAAAAMN
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It can be a software error. Have you tried hard resetting or installing another ROM?

tnyynt said:
It can be a software error. Have you tried hard resetting or installing another ROM?
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That's the point!!!
I was trying to update to WM6 but something went wrong and stucked in boot load screen!Then my battery died but when i've tried to charged again i had that problem!!!

tetsuokaneda said:
That's the point!!!
I was trying to update to WM6 but something went wrong and stucked in boot load screen!Then my battery died but when i've tried to charged again i had that problem!!!
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Your battery is fine, unfortunately your device broke

Unless you have a lot of specialized equipment at home, and the proper qualifications, there's no way in hell you can fix this. I'm sticking with my diagnosis, that either the power routing circuit broke down, or a power bus inside the device.
Really, your best off taking it back to the store, and paying for the repair. Either that, or buying a new phone, and selling this one for spares...
Sorry mate...

mzalan said:
Unless you have a lot of specialized equipment at home, and the proper qualifications, there's no way in hell you can fix this. I'm sticking with my diagnosis, that either the power routing circuit broke down, or a power bus inside the device.
Really, your best off taking it back to the store, and paying for the repair. Either that, or buying a new phone, and selling this one for spares...
Sorry mate...
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I wanna die!!!I'm completely Fu.. up!!!
What a terrible news!I can't believe it!!!!
If i'll bring my phone to the assistant i'm gonna pay alot of money,at least 200.00 euro!!!!

similar problem
i had the exact same thing happen to my EXEC when i got 2 new batteries for it. One was a standard sized, pretty much the same as the stock one that came with the phone and one was a much larger capacity one that needs an extra cover for the back.
Id been using the device for ages on this huge battery and the charge said 100% constantly. then the device turned itself off and it wouldnt come back on. upon connecting the charger the LED was red, so i thought the battery was dead. I left it on charge over night and when i tried again the next morning it was fine.
this happens everytime with this battery, it just needs a much longer charge than the standard one, and doesnt register properly on the default OS, i havent tried it on my recent upgrade to one of the midget roms.
so try leaving it on charge over night or for a very long time. if all else fails just get a new battery.

That might reset the battery back to life, but I wouldn't exactly count on that. A battery with a broken monitor circuitry is pretty hard to reset.

My last hope,i'm gonna leave charging my phone for a day and then see what happend....I'm desperate

Permanent red light...
I had this problem, I put the phone on charge but forgot to put a battery in - spare phone... It wouldn't work no matter what I did , until I reformatted the DOC by following the steps in the WIKI.

wtpelzer said:
I had this problem, I put the phone on charge but forgot to put a battery in - spare phone... It wouldn't work no matter what I did , until I reformatted the DOC by following the steps in the WIKI.
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Could u post it please?!

Took a while but here it is...
I did the task 28 55aa command in MTTY which should reformat the DOC alternatively you could reload the bootloader using the link below...
MTTY with "task 28 55aa", "set 14 0", "set 14 9, "set 14 10" and "set 14 20" as described. bootloader screen may be replaced with a blank one, boot it on bootloader mode by "Backlight+Power+Reset"
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Resets
now upgrade as usual.
If you stuck on the bootloader again after upgrading, try to upgrade the bootloader itself go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1255206&postcount=52
This link gives full instructions :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289325&highlight=task+28+55aa
Hope this helps.

Same Problem, Led Indicator Always red
Hi,
We have the same situation, my jasjar just died in my hands, im reading a txt messages then al of the sudden it hangs, so what i did is reset it but it didnt power on, i removed the battery then after 10mins i put it back but then no power,then i charged it but it didnt power on too and the led indicator is always red, they say that if the indicator is red it means that there is no battery or the battery is missing but i check it thoroughly,the battery is perfectly place on the back of jasjer, i even tried to enter to bootloader but it cant. If anyone knows how can i revive my jasjar pls pls let us know....Thank you so much.
So sad till now there's no single solution.....

wtpelzer said:
I did the task 28 55aa command in MTTY which should reformat the DOC alternatively you could reload the bootloader using the link below...
MTTY with "task 28 55aa", "set 14 0", "set 14 9, "set 14 10" and "set 14 20" as described. bootloader screen may be replaced with a blank one, boot it on bootloader mode by "Backlight+Power+Reset"
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Resets
now upgrade as usual.
If you stuck on the bootloader again after upgrading, try to upgrade the bootloader itself go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1255206&postcount=52
This link gives full instructions :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289325&highlight=task+28+55aa
Hope this helps.
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Exactly if my Jasjar is completely dead how can i connect via usb and then use mtty?!
I'm losing my hope to bring it back to live!

have same problem - can do nothing, still waiting
but there is one thing - led flashes once, when i put the charger into the device - but it does nor light, nor flashes - exactly nothing happens

If your device is dead...
Well just to answer the question, if the battery is dead and you can't charge it because of a red LED. I suggest you buy a standalone charger from ebay and charge the battery or get someone else to charge it for you. Then follow the steps as I stated in my previous post...

wtpelzer said:
Well just to answer the question, if the battery is dead and you can't charge it because of a red LED. I suggest you buy a standalone charger from ebay and charge the battery or get someone else to charge it for you. Then follow the steps as I stated in my previous post...
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The point is that the device is dead and that is why the constant red light. I have a device that is stuck on the splash screen (no solution in sight) and another that fell down and broke. The one that fell down does not power on. If you put a charged battery ang plug in the charger nothing happens, no light comes on, but if you put a discharged battery the red light comes on. I have a third Uni that I accidentally flashed with a BA rom. It is behaving exactly like the broken uni, it does not turn on, does not go into bootloader and the red light comes on when I plug in the charger with a discharged battery in it.

For some things, there's just no cure...
Okay I understand where you're coming from but essentially what you need to do, under normal circumstances, is connect it to your PC, which if the device is working at all the PC will detect it but not connect... In the case of two of your Uni's I don't think this will help - the dropped one and the BA ROM failure. The one with the Red LED, which has stopped working could be a component failure on the board or it could be a Corrupt DOC table. Now to get back to how you'd go about fixing it if it is a corrupt DOC table, when you connect it to the PC and the PC detects it you disable ActiveSync and start MTTY it should give you the option of connecting to the USB port, when it does this if you get a prompt the problem should be fixable because MTTY can "talk" to the device... As for the other's try this method and if it doesn't work sell them for parts or canabalise the one for parts for the other...

No more bootloader no more nothing, after rom upgrade s200

Hi All,
I've tried to upgrade the ROM of my QTEK S200.
It got completely stuck!!! I had to remove the battery. Now it stays black. Even a hard-reset does nothing. No bootloader, no white screen, nothing. It's like the device doesn't recognize the battery anymore. Same problem with another battery. When I connect the power supply, the light stays red for 5 seconds and then goes out again. No charging (orange) light.
Does this mean that the device was short-cutted (hardware problem) or can this be fixed with some manipulation?
Anybody an idea how I can fix the hardware (if broken) myself? Can't be to difficult if it just blew a fuse ;-)
Thanks

If the accu not charge, I think he is dead. You need a new one. For flashing new rom, you need a good acco over 50 %. Than you go to bootloader modus and flash a WM5 Rom WM5Rom.

coolb4all said:
Hi All,
I've tried to upgrade the ROM of my QTEK S200.
It got completely stuck!!! I had to remove the battery. Now it stays black. Even a hard-reset does nothing. No bootloader, no white screen, nothing. It's like the device doesn't recognize the battery anymore. Same problem with another battery. When I connect the power supply, the light stays red for 5 seconds and then goes out again. No charging (orange) light.
Does this mean that the device was short-cutted (hardware problem) or can this be fixed with some manipulation?
Anybody an idea how I can fix the hardware (if broken) myself? Can't be to difficult if it just blew a fuse ;-)
Thanks
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Yep, hes dead alrite, make a good paper weight sorry bro...

not the battery
of course I tried a new battery
same problem

Can you make a downgrade to WM5 ? Ist the battery charged now ?

DC Adapter 4,5 V
I had the same problem.
Remove the battery and connect the pin nr 1 (nearest to the cam) to + and the pin nr 5 to -. I think 3,7 to 5 V is ok. Then bootloader and connect to computer.
Don't blame me if anything goes bad ;-)

how to proceed?
I've tried to do as explained...
I've taken an old charger (5v) and connected the cables (black/white striped to 1 and black to 5). I'm not 100 percent sure about + and -, but normally black is always -, if I'm not mistakin'
What should happen? How should I proceed?
My device does nothing... No light. Power button does nothing, hard reset does nothing.
Does this procedure work with a QTEK S200?
Maybe the charger (old gsm) is too old or broken?
Maybe + is black...
Sooo many options ;-)

Worked on mine S200
Of course You must know if the adapter is working and +/-.
When I connected 1 to + and 5 to - I could operate the mobile as if the battery was mounted and working.
My problem began because the battery isn't charging in bootloader mode.
And I'm still stuck there... Because it's a G4 device flashed with G3 SPL... Anyone got a suggestion how to solve this?

JustBored said:
Of course You must know if the adapter is working and +/-.
When I connected 1 to + and 5 to - I could operate the mobile as if the battery was mounted and working.
My problem began because the battery isn't charging in bootloader mode.
And I'm still stuck there... Because it's a G4 device flashed with G3 SPL... Anyone got a suggestion how to solve this?
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I Did the same thing '''''HELP"""

What you should do
Keep the device on for 2 hours connect it to the electricity.
Install the original rom with the PDA connected like that to the PC, if it does not enter the Rom update continue trying by doing a hard reset with the stylus and pressing the left com button on the left side of the device, then retry the rom install, if it says unable to connect continue trying, using the procedure i explained before, thats what i did when the same stuff happen to me i was without my device working for a month, now i´m using WM6 with the Diamond Rom, so its possible, to do this you just have to keep trying.

my prophet is block and after try of hard reboot is dont turn on.. its not turn on on any way, no detect charger ether ( no red led ) battery was almost full when its go off..
plz help, can i try 1-5 pins solution?

srbwap said:
my prophet is block and after try of hard reboot is dont turn on.. its not turn on on any way, no detect charger ether ( no red led ) battery was almost full when its go off..
plz help, can i try 1-5 pins solution?
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My friend. A few people have tried the pin method and one or two have succeeded. IMHO i would not try it, for fear of frying your phone, yourself or starting a fire.
Take out the battery for a good couple of hours. Take out SIm card and SD card. Put battery back in and try to charge for at least 5 hours, even if the light does not show (might just be LED issue).
Then see if you can start in boot loader, u now how to yes? (keep camera button pressed, soft reset with stylus, then let go of camera button after few sconds). What happens?

pins to power
I've tried connecting the extreme small pins to the (big) cables of the charger but nothing happens over here. The screen stays black.
To All,
Any hints on how to connect these cables to the pins, without the fact that they're constantly coming off the pins and constantly touching other pins?
You try and tell me about your experience ;-)

revive prophet revive ;-)
I was just playing with my qtek when I noticed that after connecting and disconnecting it to the AC for 5 times or so (with red light going on and off for a second), it tries to startup, but drops dead after a fraction of a second. Damned ;-) No chance of going into bootloader.
Almost there ;-))

coolb4all said:
I was just playing with my qtek when I noticed that after connecting and disconnecting it to the AC for 5 times or so (with red light going on and off for a second), it tries to startup, but drops dead after a fraction of a second. Damned ;-) No chance of going into bootloader.
Almost there ;-))
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keep it plugged in for about 5 hours, dont play with it or turn it on lol, give a go unless u have done already and just havent said

Direct Connection to 220v doesn't work
The workaround of connecting the pins directly to the charger doesn't seem to work on a QTEK S200 G4.
Since mine is a G4, I wasn't lucky... I'm left with a cut charger cable.
I'll try to charge it for 5 hours but since no led is going on I don't think this will have any effect.

Listen keep it plug in to the electricity for 12 hours, then try to put it in bootloader mode by pressing the, com button on the left side of the device after you hard reset it, with the stylus after you manage to enter the bootloader mode, you only need to follow the steps described on several posts on the forum.

if nothing works connect the device and try to install the original rom, my device is a g3 so i´m not sure if the g4 works the same way.

Sudden Death Z3

Hello all,
For some strange reason my phone died on me friday, the last time i saw it on was while updating.
It wasn't charging at the time so i thought maybe the battery ran out, but when i connected it with the charger my phone wouldn't boot correctly.
My Z3 was in a bootloop, it could still be detected by my pc but i couldn't do anything due the fact it was turning off and on all the time.
I tried to enter recovery mode but it instantly restarted itself...
Pc Companion wasn't detecting my phone so i couldn't use that.
since my phone did get repaired already (my screen broke) i could manually disconnect the battery but that didn't work either, i tried a new battery too but to no succes.
I also tried all the button combinations, the only mode i could enter was fastboot mode (blue led) and it would stay on but still no sign of a normal booting process.
The yellow button near the sdcard slot didn't work either.
When i put my phone to charge at the wallsocket the led stays red and it won't reboot all the time, but after 15 minutes the red led disappears and it seems like the phone isn't charging at all.
Today it got worse, my pc can't detect my phone anymore and the bootloop stopped too, the led stays red when charging (usb and wallsocket) but after some time the led disappears.
I can't enter fastboot mode anymore.. plainly said; nothing works anymore.
Anyone knows how to fix this problem?
Sony doesn't want to repair it for me since i fixed my screen externally so i hope for solution

I had a similar behavior on a Xperia T when my battery was deeply discarged.
There was No way to load the battery inside the phone.
The phone has to start the bootloader or something like a "mini kernel" (dunno how it is called exactly) to start the loading sequence.
If you are under the -normally not reachable- minimum volatge (under normal conditions phone turns off before) there is too less juice to turn on the booloader and start the loading.
In my case I opened the phone put out the battery and charged it directly with a power supply by wire.
For me it worked.
I see you write that you tried other battery was this one full for sure.?
regards

shivasrage said:
I had a similar behavior on a Xperia T when my battery was deeply discarged.
There was No way to load the battery inside the phone.
The phone has to start the bootloader or something like a "mini kernel" (dunno how it is called exactly) to start the loading sequence.
If you are under the -normally not reachable- minimum volatge (under normal conditions phone turns off before) there is too less juice to turn on the booloader and start the loading.
In my case I opened the phone put out the battery and charged it directly with a power supply by wire.
For me it worked.
I see you write that you tried other battery was this one full for sure.?
regards
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No i'm not sure if it was full, but i can try to reload my battery the way you suggested.

Nytoria said:
No i'm not sure if it was full, but i can try to reload my battery the way you suggested.
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I assume that you know that... but nevertheless
I advise you to be very careful with li-ion batterys the
are very sensitive with charging voltage.
There are some tutorials on youtube but do it on your
own risk I´m not responsible for anything...just saying.
Edit: for safety...I think it would be good to try to load the
li-ion battery only that much that it has enough power
to boot in the loading state...then put the battery back in the
phone and load it the normal way.
I wish you a succsessful charging let me know if it worked.
good luck :fingers-crossed:

shivasrage said:
I assume that you know that... but nevertheless
I advise you to be very careful with li-ion batterys the
are very sensitive with charging voltage.
There are some tutorials on youtube but do it on your
own risk I´m not responsible for anything...just saying.
I wish you a succsessful charging let me know if it worked.
good luck :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for tip and i'll let you know :fingers-crossed: