I am looking to replace my Trinity and right now the iPhone is the top contender (I am with AT&T anyway.)
But I'd love to keep the flexibility I get from WM, and have finally made my Trinity rock solid (it hasn't crashed in weeks
The big thing for me is the screen, I like 3.5 and I like the resolution - the Omnia just doesn't look as good to me, plus its screen is smaller.
Is HTC, or someone else, coming out with something new, soon, which will have the screen, the memory (16gb is good) and is also a decent looking phone?
Anyone know?
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Uh wtf?
Anyways. Back on topic. WAIT FOR THE AT&T TOUCH PRO. Nuff said.
Silly wabbit! iPhones are for kids.... Any anyone else without enough brain matter to operate a WM device.
If there is too much time on your contract to bail, I'd say wait for the Touch!
Unfortunately, the Touch Pro only has a 2.8" screen, which is a big disadvantage, compared to the 3.5" screen on the iPhone.
I am looking for at least 3.5".
(and since I had my Wizard, I've decided that slider keyboards are useless to me.)
For a screen that size you will need something like a Sedna.
I personally just got the I900. I had an IPhone for a month and I definitely prefer the Omnia I900. However it only has a 3.2" screen and you want 3.5".
I would have gotten a Sedna as I wanted a bigger screen, but at the last minute I got an Omnia and I am really happy with it.
The Touch Pro looks nice, that would probably be my second choice. The omnia has the best on screen keyboard I have seen so far. It not particularly special in any way other than the fact that it works well in Portrait and in landscape with the autmatic rotate function I can rapidly get precise, fast two thumb typing going by just rotating the phone (assuming I have two hands free.)
I have iTouch and have to say that I love it`s touch-screen accuracy, much better than in wm-phones with 2.8" screen, it is just so tiny compared to 3.5" screen.. I usualy do wlan with wmwifirouter and browse net using iTouch since it has bigger resolution and 3.5" screen which doesn`t need stylus + Safari is fast !
One thing what I don`t understand is this 2.8" Wmphonemania, why are they not making 3.5" screens on them ? And 3.2mp cameras are oldish, I love N95 5mp camera, it just takes so good shots, I am jealous :>
But either Symbian or iPhone`s OS, cannot beat WinMo as an operating system :X
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Unfortunately, the Touch Pro only has a 2.8" screen, which is a big disadvantage, compared to the 3.5" screen on the iPhone.
I am looking for at least 3.5".
(and since I had my Wizard, I've decided that slider keyboards are useless to me.)
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like for sex size doen't matter... the real problem is: what will be your use of your next phone...
i have tried both one week (iPhone3g and diamond) and i goes diamond because iPhone is too much limited for my use... try both and see what will be your's
How about the Dream?
I am amazed that noone mentioned the HTC Dream. The first Android phone to hit the market will be released on October 13th. Check it out.
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Just surf this forum and you will find a lot of nice options:
HTC G1
HTC HD
etc...
This was exactly the question I was working on for a number of months. Although I also added in, "And won't cost me an arm and a leg".
It finally came down to the Daxian T32/x999+ (Chinese iPhone-ish clone) and the HTC Blue Angel. If the T32 had some buttons that could be used in gaming like the HTC I would've gone with that I think, but I got the HTC Blue Angel instead and it's great.
Of course this is my first PDA, so maybe I'm easily impressed.
Anything else out there either costs WAY too much or has a much smaller screen, or even both. It's too bad nobody is taking the Blue Angel and reworking it with today's technology to make it sleeker and better. Great little machine so far!
http://gizmodo.com/5047830/htc-touch-hd-looks-big-and-beautiful
How about this?
I think it's called HTC Touch HD. Don't know if HD stands for High Definition.
Anyway, this phone for sure has your requirement of 3.5 screen.
Has anyone here seen this phone?
ww.youtube.com/watch?v=PhKxpYRip18
Pretty awesome GUI. Would it be at all possible for someone to mimic it's interface on an android phone? Even if it were like say, a home replacement app?
The idea behind the interface is pretty cool, but this phone leaves something to be desired.
the zooom control looks like 100times better than pinch to zoom
feels more like the android cut thing for setting images... or like zoom on andwobble
but no big news.
don't fancy the ui. I can use my android phone single handedly just great
And I would miss kinetic scroling... If they don't include it, they are nuts
At 5:44 she actually did what I would fear the most - release her thumb too early, starting the wrong app
plus the phone is still to lame for everyday use...
But design looks very nice. and the idea is based on minority report xD
Yeah, I've posted about this phone in a few threads (X10). It looks prety tight. Hasn't been released yet. I'm gonna get one just to have it, when it comes out. Should be easy to port to android phones.
But I'm getting THIS one in a couple of months.
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Should be easy to port to android phones.
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nice to hear someone saying that
i have also known the first else for ... a long time? and always liked the gui. would be nice to have that for my android phone
i just noticed the first else device looks kind of like a complete black, even slightly flatter (backside) iphone 4g xD
Is that Apples new design this year? (The flat gray color, no more shiny chrome)? And also no more roundness? (How the bezel is like flat going to the top and bottom)
It certainly presents some interesting concepts, especially with one thumb use.
However I don't see their entire OS being a success in the near future.
What do you guys think? I've had a Diamond before and now owning a Diamond 2 with most customisations and an own taskbar. I am looking for a device with a snapdragon processor and all that which I will keep for more than a year forward. I like watching movies, listen to music and customize my phone to the fullest - like icons, taskbar, user interface such as spb ms (how is it on hd2?).
Give me your thoughts and experiences with your HD2 and Desire!
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What do you guys think? I've had a Diamond before and now owning a Diamond 2 with most customisations and an own taskbar. I am looking for a device with a snapdragon processor and all that which I will keep for more than a year forward. I like watching movies, listen to music and customize my phone to the fullest - like icons, taskbar, user interface such as spb ms (how is it on hd2?).
Give me your thoughts and experiences with your HD2 and Desire!
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I have both the desire and the hd2 and it makes me sad to use the hd2 anymore. Desire blows away hd2 in raw speed and performance compared to the hd2.
I haven't played with the Desire or even N1 yet, but I can say that I think your choice is going to boil down to the traditional android vs winmo question, rather than which piece of hardware. Both of those phones are close enough in specs that the deciding factor will inevitably come down to which os you're more comfortable with etc. Since you're already creating content for WM, you might want to stick with that, and HD2 is by far the best option in that category. However, I won't argue that android doesn't have some of the issues WM does, but I'm sure you're already familiar with all that.
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I haven't played with the Desire or even N1 yet, but I can say that I think your choice is going to boil down to the traditional android vs winmo question, rather than which piece of hardware. Both of those phones are close enough in specs that the deciding factor will inevitably come down to which os you're more comfortable with etc. Since you're already creating content for WM, you might want to stick with that, and HD2 is by far the best option in that category. However, I won't argue that android doesn't have some of the issues WM does, but I'm sure you're already familiar with all that.
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You're right, and I love WM6.5/WM6.5.X for what it is, you can customize so much and really make it your own. I feel like on the Desire you're stuck with those 7 homescreens with some widgets but that's it. My choice is HD2, the 4,3 inch screen just does it for me.
I had HD2 for some time, sold it after 3 weeks of use. Hardware is awsome, Sense UI is awsome, WM sucks, makes phone slow after some use, but nothing drastical (snap dragon helps) but still somtimes that annoying brakes on scrolling pisses me alot, anyway, camera is awsome even @ night, very good dual led flash. after first days of usiong the HD2 it was very nice, (always is when its new) but after some days and some very common situation i actually found 4.3 screed too big for a phone to use on a go... really becomes very hard to use the phone one handed, in a car for exemple... i find it oversized in some cases. and what i hate more, 1100 battery on device, always dies in 1 and a half of a day of normal use. (sms, some calls and abit gps.)
But i still would prefer HD2 if it was with android, i think that WM is too slow in development and it become too old compared to droid OS. Droid is also (must be) not sure, but it must be mutch more stable then WM kuz its runs on linux kernel...
P.S: HD 2 is more for show off, than phone for everyday use in every situation. because of his 4.3 screen it becomes very eye catchy but not very handy for using. but anyway its pretty good for using in landscape two handed.
About multimedia in all terms HD2 wins on desire i think, never used Desire but heard about lack of video players. for droid, but sure it will be solved very very soon cuz of blazing speed of Droid growing.
Still I would prefer HD2 if it was Droid OS and screen size, (for multimedia, games, videos etc is the best!...) And now after selling HD2 im thinking about buying Desire, not sure yet :\ wait for some new phone or buy again HD2? :S the best would be hd2 desig, A BIT smaller screen, 1400 Battery, Droid OS. Another words INCREDIBLE is the goodie, optimal size and specs. Unfortinatly is only avaliable in US :S
If i could know about porting Droid on hd2 i would buy hd2 again and port droid to it.
Desire or HD2?
HD2 or Desire?
Pros and Cons: in comparison important for me.
HD2 - Desire
SCREEN: 4.3 Screen BUT LCD - 3.5 Screen BUT ALMOLED
BATTERY: 1100 mAh - 1400 mAh
OS: Windows Mobile(slower) - Android OS(fester)
CAMERA: 5mp 2 LED Flash - 5mp 1 Led Flash
Design: HD IMO is more sexy cuz of color and screen looks realy good, desire has common design and color sucks...
All the list is only IMO!
apparently watching video on the desire omled screen isnt great so it may not be a good choice for you if you like certain media.
I also hate that scrolling lag even on Desire and the newest Androids, but I will definitely organize my programs into folders like I have done since WM6.5 came out so that will probably help.
Some opinions I want to share, I had a HD2 and played with a Desire, as I put it on sale for my friend.
Desire is good, fun apps, customize home screens but that's it, for everyday use I still choose my HD2, because of its screen and functionality.
Browser in Desire is faster but not so smooth, lag in scrolling sometimes. Opera 10 is better, Opera 9.7 somehow u can tweak to make it scroll smooth. And the big screen won me over for browsing, and watching photos and movies as well.
As guy above save, Desire have no good video player, and u have to convert before watching, it takes hours. I dont have time for that.
Customize on the Desire is fun, but only for 1st time, it becomes boring quickly. To me, HD2 is still a "personal" phone than Desire.
1 important thing is MS Office pull me back. I still prefer to read, check, edit on a big screen.
Im not a "big" guy but the "big" screen of HD2 is no "big" for me, it's great to hold and use, even with 1 hand.
Desire still has it limitations, I think, but as u know about Winmo, it has no limitations out of the box, just some ugly in-deep interfaces.
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Some opinions I want to share, I had a HD2 and played with a Desire, as I put it on sale for my friend.
Desire is good, fun apps, customize home screens but that's it, for everyday use I still choose my HD2, because of its screen and functionality.
Browser in Desire is faster but not so smooth, lag in scrolling sometimes. Opera 10 is better, Opera 9.7 somehow u can tweak to make it scroll smooth. And the big screen won me over for browsing, and watching photos and movies as well.
As guy above save, Desire have no good video player, and u have to convert before watching, it takes hours. I dont have time for that.
Customize on the Desire is fun, but only for 1st time, it becomes boring quickly. To me, HD2 is still a "personal" phone than Desire.
1 important thing is MS Office pull me back. I still prefer to read, check, edit on a big screen.
Im not a "big" guy but the "big" screen of HD2 is no "big" for me, it's great to hold and use, even with 1 hand.
Desire still has it limitations, I think, but as u know about Winmo, it has no limitations out of the box, just some ugly in-deep interfaces.
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Hmmm, about big screen and 1 handing I ment that for exemple for texting, can u reach every letter with 1 hand easily?! In personal I love big screens... but as i told, in some ways its too way big, anyway phone is still pretty packeble and feels very nice in hand.
i believe it's time to move on from wm because almost all wm development is only coming from xda devs and not from microsoft,unlike that android is being developed by our devs and google side by side,and it has a much steeper curve of development,also android versions are almost popping out every now and then and by the end of the year android 3 will most likely be available
you probably read and saw that 2.2 android is 2-5 times faster thatn the 2.1...now imagine the difference between the super fast 2.2 and upcoming versions of android
our wm (wm 6.1/6.5) will be abandoned since MS is focused on the WM7 which won't be compatible even with the hd2
android is a young OS,but only things that lack to completely wipe out WM are some specific apps,and time will solve that...other than that android as an OS beats wm as an OS
i'd take the desire right away
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Hmmm, about big screen and 1 handing I ment that for exemple for texting, can u reach every letter with 1 hand easily?! In personal I love big screens... but as i told, in some ways its too way big, anyway phone is still pretty packeble and feels very nice in hand.
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For your question, I can say I can type with 1 hand easily. Im used to it now.
Anyway, it depends on personal taste
If I go for android, definitely will be a 4.3' screen, I will not go any lower
Until the day Android can do all that Windows Mobile can currently do, should you only make the switch. Why make the switch to the OS based on things that that have yet to come, even if it is a certainty? You're using the phone now, aren't you? I find that too many people keep arguing for Android from the prospect of it will have this, it will have that soon, etc etc. It's all in the future. Until that point comes, get what is usable, practical and gets the job done.
By the time Android reaches the normality that is available in Windows Mobile, I doubt the OP will keep the same phone and probably would have changed already.
P.S. I text one-handed just fine and can reach all corners of the phone.
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i believe it's time to move on from wm because
almost all wm development is only coming from xda devs and not from microsoft,unlike that android is being developed by our devs and google side by side,and it has a much steeper curve of development,also android versions are almost popping out every now and then and by the end of the year android 3 will most likely be available
you probably read and saw that 2.2 android is 2-5 times faster thatn the 2.1...now imagine the difference between the super fast 2.2 and upcoming versions of android
our wm (wm 6.1/6.5) will be abandoned since MS is focused on the WM7 which won't be compatible even with the hd2
android is a young OS,but only things that lack to completely wipe out WM are some specific apps,and time will solve that...other than that android as an OS beats wm as an OS
i'd take the desire right away
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Until the day Android can do all that Windows Mobile can currently do, should you only make the switch. Why make the switch to the OS based on things that that have yet to come, even if it is a certainty? You're using the phone now, aren't you? I find that too many people keep arguing for Android from the prospect of it will have this, it will have that soon, etc etc. It's all in the future. Until that point comes, get what is usable, practical and gets the job done.
By the time Android reaches the normality that is available in Windows Mobile, I doubt the OP will keep the same phone and probably would have changed already.
P.S. I text one-handed just fine and can reach all corners of the phone.
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Nice said mate
The HD2 does not have a 1100 MAH battery, it's 1230. I love my HD2, I just feel so confuzzled right now with it whether to switch or not. I've been using WM since it was 6.0 [Elf days] and the HD2 is superb. My only complaint towards it is the battery cover. It looks hard to take off, I have yet to get mine off since I bought it Wednesday. I used Android on my Fuze and Tilt 2 and fell in love with it. But, I don't think I could use it on a daily basis for the rest of time with my phone. Very soon, the HD2 will have Android ported over to it and WP7 roms will defenitly come out for it. WM6.5 is just so customizable and I can change it to look like sense by using SPB. I would like a Hero, or a Magic just so I could play around with a native Android device, but could never use it as a main OS. In the future, if WP7 does not turn out to my liking, Android will be my next OS but until then Idk
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The HD2 does not have a 1100 MAH battery, it's 1230. I love my HD2, I just feel so confuzzled right now with it whether to switch or not. I've been using WM since it was 6.0 [Elf days] and the HD2 is superb. My only complaint towards it is the battery cover. It looks hard to take off, I have yet to get mine off since I bought it Wednesday. I used Android on my Fuze and Tilt 2 and fell in love with it. But, I don't think I could use it on a daily basis for the rest of time with my phone. Very soon, the HD2 will have Android ported over to it and WP7 roms will defenitly come out for it. WM6.5 is just so customizable and I can change it to look like sense by using SPB. I would like a Hero, or a Magic just so I could play around with a native Android device, but could never use it as a main OS. In the future, if WP7 does not turn out to my liking, Android will be my next OS but until then Idk
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u are right mate, its 1230 mAh... missed somthing. About porting, if it will happen some day, i would actually prefer to buy another HD2...
I think i need simply to play with Desire in my hand to see what i realy like, huge screen or nice os? :\
I have the HD2 and my girlfriend has the Desire. I really like the Desire and love the speed of android.
If you could give me Android on the HD2 then that would be perfect. Yes it's not quite as customizable as WM6.5 but you can change it to what you need.
If you are desperate for a device you can customise to within an inch of it's life you want WM but remember this is supposed to be a phone and not you whole world.
I'm sure there will be an Android device with a screen the size of the HD2, probably when we start getting better media players for it.
If you can hold on and let Android fill it's potential and have the device you want with Android on it then "make do" with the HD2 for now. It's not exactlly the worst phone in the world now is it.
Just my opinion and it's exactly what I am doing.
Cant wait for Android on an HD2
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I have the HD2 and my girlfriend has the Desire. I really like the Desire and love the speed of android.
If you could give me Android on the HD2 then that would be perfect. Yes it's not quite as customizable as WM6.5 but you can change it to what you need.
If you are desperate for a device you can customise to within an inch of it's life you want WM but remember this is supposed to be a phone and not you whole world.
I'm sure there will be an Android device with a screen the size of the HD2, probably when we start getting better media players for it.
If you can hold on and let Android fill it's potential and have the device you want with Android on it then "make do" with the HD2 for now. It's not exactlly the worst phone in the world now is it.
Just my opinion and it's exactly what I am doing.
Cant wait for Android on an HD2
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in this case, what do u think about screen size? is it very big difference, AMOLED!?
would you prefer desire or hd2 if you had a choise to get any of this 2 from stock.!?
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Until the day Android can do all that Windows Mobile can currently do, should you only make the switch. Why make the switch to the OS based on things that that have yet to come, even if it is a certainty? You're using the phone now, aren't you? I find that too many people keep arguing for Android from the prospect of it will have this, it will have that soon, etc etc. It's all in the future. Until that point comes, get what is usable, practical and gets the job done.
By the time Android reaches the normality that is available in Windows Mobile, I doubt the OP will keep the same phone and probably would have changed already.
P.S. I text one-handed just fine and can reach all corners of the phone.
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i did think of that,but even right now android feels more stable,so much more stable...i had a hero,asked people should i switch to rhodium...they said do it right away,so i did,not just because they said,but because i wanted to try out as much htcs too,...and i can say i did regret that,even with better hardware rhodium with top class cooked ROMs didn't impress me as much as hero did,which was on a stock 1.5...
i'm not saying that you should buy a phone just because it will one day,when it grows up be a good one,i'm saying that you could also take in account something that is soon to happen...
i'd get a desire, no doubt
and the thing you people are saying is already used so many times and it really isn't much true...everybody says android is a young os,still crappy,not many apps and so on,but let's look it this way
android is young and crappy
but WM is quite old and still as crappy as all hell
i'm not promoting android,i'm just telling you based on my experience....i'm a flash and performance junkie,so far i've had about 15 different htcs in my hands,and i flashed every single one of them,except the hero which was good enough even with a stock rom
HD2 - slower, more mature system, more app variety, more mature apps for navigation divx player ect. Stagnacy
Desire - faster, less mature system, less mature app variety (though a LOT of little-apps or good apps that are constantly updated to be great), high momentum
For these day I would say that phones are about equal. Maybe even a little plus for HD2. But it is changing fast for android and desire and it will be soon on the upper side.
I had similar problem until yesterday, when I went with desire, becouse I don't like changing phones too often and with at least 2 years in mind it will probably be a better phone.
Get the Desire, Root it, throw Android 2.2 on there then its game over
Unless you really need that extra inch of screen & horrible winmo
JUST CHECKED OUT THE HD7 AND I COULD NOT BELIEVE HOW BAD ASS IT WAS! I LOVE MY EVO AND ALL, BUT COME ON... THAT WAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL OS ON A PHONE I'VE EVER SEEN.
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You find large CGA coloured squares beautiful?
Yes, simple is beautiful. Look past the squares. Look at the topography, the keyboard, the transitions, the colors, the overall design, the difference. It's not just a standard desktop with boring icons.
Again, I love Android and my EVO, but **** man that Windows Phone 7 is definitely a contestant for my next one. I hope Google can redesign some things to get away from the standard boring iPhone esque look and feel.
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Yes, simple is beautiful. Look past the squares. Look at the topography, the keyboard, the transitions, the colors, the overall design, the difference. It's not just a standard desktop with boring icons.
Again, I love Android and my EVO, but **** man that Windows Phone 7 is definitely a contestant for my next one. I hope Google can redesign some things to get away from the standard boring iPhone esque look and feel.
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You've got Andy Worhol pop art on your wall at home don't you?
Each to their own, and I'm glad that you've found an interface that suits you.
Personally, I gave up CGA back in 1986 along with my 4.77MHz CPU (ah nostalgia).
Come on guys... you can't possibly think a desktop with icons looks good on a phone. It's ok, you won't hurt Androids feelings.
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You've got Andy Worhol pop art on your wall at home don't you?
Each to their own, and I'm glad that you've found an interface that suits you.
Personally, I gave up CGA back in 1986 along with my 4.77MHz CPU (ah nostalgia).
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That's one of the most asinine things I've read. Cause the entire OS is the home screen?
Also, it cannot be CGA because it displays too many colors, and the resolution is much higher. At least don't embarass yourself when you're trying to be witty.
Also, VGA obsoleted CGA and EGA in 1987. In 1986 the best you could do was EGA, which was 16 colors at < VGA resolutions.
I still can't believe there hasn't been one person in agreement. Anyways I realize this thread is as good as dead here on xda.
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That's one of the most asinine things I've read. Cause the entire OS is the home screen?
Also, it cannot be CGA because it displays too many colors, and the resolution is much higher. At least don't embarass yourself when you're trying to be witty.
Also, VGA obsoleted CGA and EGA in 1987. In 1986 the best you could do was EGA, which was 16 colors at < VGA resolutions.
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I see you're still trolling.
Perhaps it would leave you in better stead if you looked up the definitions of metaphore and simile?
Just a suggestion.
I will kep it alive with giant letters
Windows needs a cool little mascot like android. I love that little guy.
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I agree 100%. I now own the HD7 and I LOVE IT! The phone I had before was the Samsung Vibrant. Windows Phone 7 OS simply rocks!
I have to agree as well. My first smartphone was the G1. I loved it. Since then, I've owned the myTouch 3G and I like it as well. Android OS is great, but you have to agree that it's a little laggy at times and definitely not polished. I wanted to try something new and fresh so I took the dive on an HD7. I chose it over the myTouch 4G. I thought I would regret this decision and I even went back to the T-Mobile store to return my two HD7's for the myTouch 4G after 2 weeks of use. But something funny happened when I was at the T-Mobile store. While I was waiting for my turn (the store was full), I started playing around with the myTouch 4g and was amazed how laggy it is. I also compared the two form factors and decided that I could not give up my 4.3" goodness. The web surfing experience is awesome as is everything else. So, in the end, i just walked out of the store happy that I had a smartphone that was satisfying. It really is. No regrets.
I have to agree that the phone is as fast and snappy as the iPhone. And I also agree with you that the interface is very well done. The experience is quite nice. I know it doesn't have anywhere near the amount of apps as Android, but there is something about this OS that is just...delightful. The app market will grow soon enough and I have all the apps for everyday use. Web, mail, Slacker, Office integration, etc.
I know it sounds crazy. You have to use it to know what I mean. People who dismiss it outright just don't want to hear about anything other than what they have and will defend it 'till the end. That's fine, but also try to keep an open mind from time to time. If you haven't experienced WP7, try it next time you are at the carrier store. You will be surprised.