Since the G1 and now the mytouch both of which I flashed the Hero rom on, I just found my perfect business phone and this one could be a true Iphone killer and it has windows. I have not used a windows based phone since the dash and now the HD2 is making want to try it again. I live off outlook so that a plus but playing with the touchpro 2 I dont like some items, but like the Hero rich widgets, have you guys heard of anything?
Have you tried Androkidd 0.8, I installed it on my Pro2 yesterday and it seems good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540428
Cool, another Leo thread!
Since I posted this has there been any development on getting andriod on the HD2? Now that the Evo has come out I am hoping the process has been helped?
FenderGuy said:
Since I posted this has there been any development on getting andriod on the HD2? Now that the Evo has come out I am hoping the process has been helped?
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The developers have finally overcome the segfaults which previously prevented the Linux kernel from booting fully, meaning that Linux can boot fully, and Android is possible. However, the touch screen doesn't have any Linux drivers, meaning that until someone develops a touch screen driver from scratch, that Android (or any other Linux userland) is unusable without a USB keyboard/mouse plugged in .
The EVO 4G seems similar to the HD2, and it is reasonable to think that it may help in development of Android for the HD2, but it's actually quite the opposite. The hardware used in the HD2 is much different than that in the EVO. Besides the common appearance, the two devices are completely independent of one another, and the developers are mostly on their own. Just a small word of advice: don't ever buy a phone because of features that have yet to be developed, as there is absolutely no guarantee that Android/Linux will ever work fully on the HD2.
Leo is a great device, and it´s not outdated as it has the same or even more power than some newer devices.
WM is doing well on it because it´s fast processor
I agree withthe above poster. I think HD2 and WM have years left. Right now its the only phone I can do everything I want with, except HULU, which I firmly beleive will come. Heres what Android or iOS4 or WP7 will have to do out of the box for me to give up WM6.5
1. Play nice with my hava box for live TV.
2. Emulate PS1 game flawlessly
3. Play the PS1 games with a wireless PS3 controller.
4. Play any kind of video in existance thats under 2GB in file size with no frame dropping or quality loss.
5. Word, and Excel
6. a FTP program
7. Cut, copy, paste, and open with...
8. Streaming radio and play, OGG's, AAC, and other off brand codecs
These are my main concerns when I hear about WP7 coming. I fear we may loose all the killer software that has been build the last 5 years. Hopefully WP7 will have a compatability mode. LOL
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I agree withthe above poster. I think HD2 and WM have years left. Right now its the only phone I can do everything I want with, except HULU, which I firmly beleive will come. Heres what Android or iOS4 or WP7 will have to do out of the box for me to give up WM6.5
1. Play nice with my hava box for live TV.
2. Emulate PS1 game flawlessly
3. Play the PS1 games with a wireless PS3 controller.
4. Play any kind of video in existance thats under 2GB in file size with no frame dropping or quality loss.
5. Word, and Excel
6. a FTP program
7. Cut, copy, paste, and open with...
8. Streaming radio and play, OGG's, AAC, and other off brand codecs
These are my main concerns when I hear about WP7 coming. I fear we may loose all the killer software that has been build the last 5 years. Hopefully WP7 will have a compatability mode. LOL
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Because we are the minority. those lovely features you speak of wont be present in most phone os going forward. Apple has shown that dumb down super simple phones are the way to go. btw I dont mean dumb down in the sense that they suck. What I mean is, we as a community are use to having free reign on what we do with our phones. The average user will do more harm than good with these features. With great power comes great responsiblity.
I like android! I havent seen a single thing that it cant do. Infact because of people like cyanogen its grown at record breaking speeds to be come a contender.
One of the best things about android is I have been able to install albeit modified versions of android on my g1 and my friends droid.
Now hes currently running froyo before motorola even has a chance to update it.
Thanks for the posts....I am using my Gen 1 Mytouch and while I like it a lot, its starting to be to slow for me.
I think the reason why I won't to windows is that I like the Andriod market a lot, being able to get a program , etc
But I am a windows guy on my laptop running outlook, office, etc and I am thinking it would be better for my business to switch to WM?
Maybe I need to research the market to see what I can get
Come on in the waters fine! With the snapdragon wimo 6.5 really pops. Its equal to or greater then ios4 or android. Once you get cookiemonsters app up, everyone at your work will be jelous of your phone. From comparing my multiple wimo phones with friend iphones and droid phones I can easily say once my rom is selected and phone is tweaked its actually much more stable then the other phones.
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As stated on the title, I think it will be great if we can rip iphone apps to run in HD2. Just a suggestion please don't flame me
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Converting apps between platforms
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/air...-write-applications-for-windows-mobile-others
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[iPhone like apps & tweaks build into WinMo]
Applications that can be found in iPhone which are developed or recreated for WinMo.
Doesn't matter with GUI or text interface as long as the idea is there for being creative.
I will try to compile all the 'iPhone like apps' in here which are developed for daily use.
Download Applications:
»SBS Bus Time [SG Only]
»Show Traffic [With Google Map][SG Only]
»Metal Detector - Proof Of Concept
»S2U2 - iPhone Style Slide Lock
»Filmscope [SG Only]
»iPhoneToday - iPhoneToday Video by Birger » Here
Download Tweak:
»Co0kie's Home Tab - iPhone like menu [Swiping Style], Extended Quicklinks & More
More to come...
Credits to afoongwl215, dZenkinZ, 6Fg8, A_C, Co0kieMonster, tronikos, sh2sg.com & Birger for his video
It is impossible. 2 totally different operating system with 2 different file systems, 2 different control sets and 2 different sdk's.
The only way is if the developer makes the app for win mo.
if there was an emulator it would be not impossible...
True, but... I don't think this is gonna happen anytime soon.
I don't think an emulator is needed, I mean how many fart apps do you need??
espaleena why don't you just buy yourself an Iphone.
Sorry, but I can see so many useless messages coming from former Iphone owners on this HD2 sub-section... I am really fed up
i personaly would prefer to see an emulator of android. There are some nice apps that android has, such google map sky, google navigation and Layar. I know VMWare is working on a mobile virtualization but the solution is yet far away in time. But i have to say that an Iphone emulator would be nice also. There tons of apps and games that the Iphone has.
arturobandini said:
espaleena why don't you just buy yourself an Iphone.
Sorry, but I can see so many useless messages coming from former Iphone owners on this HD2 sub-section... I am really fed up
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Too bad I'm not an iPhone fanboy, liking something from iPhone Apps doesn't mean I have to get or support iPhone frenzy.
From my perspective point of view, HD2 users can create cabs to emulate games like FPSece or Morphgear, so you see they can do something to make other things run on HD2. Please dont be stereotype arturobandini it's just a suggestion.
well i had a iphone myself, and it´s not a good phone. But some applications and games are very usefull and goodlooking. and with goodlooking i mean better than applications for the HD2. So if you never had a iphone stop talking about it. it´s like the same as people talking about the bible without reading it.
yep, in the bible, turns out God did it...hope haven't ruined the ending for anyone. Can't see an emulator for Iphone as you normally need 5-10 times the power of the emulated item for good emulation and the HD2 is good but not that good. Would love some augmented reality stuff for it though, which the iphone has...
For what is reported here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee355030.aspx#portAmpConclusion if application developers want, it's not that hard to port iphone applications to windows mobile.
There is no way you can emulate iPhone OS or Android on the HD2. Emulation means you need a much more powerful hardware. The games for iPhone OS require pretty much the same hardware the HD2 has. Emulation is not possible.
You can only port them. But you would have to do it for each application and it seems very few developers are interested in porting their games to WM.
The other way would be to be able to boot that OS on your windows phone. It was actually possible on other phones like the Kaiser or the Polaris to boot Android natively.
i dont know if its possible to accomplish dual boot. One thing is get a Android Rom to HD2, but dual boot i dont know.
what about triple boot, me like
mamv said:
For what is reported here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee355030.aspx#portAmpConclusion if application developers want, it's not that hard to port iphone applications to windows mobile.
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Thx for the info mamv, after reading the website it seems possible to port
iPhone apps that's downloadable in the Apps Store to HTC. We just need some experts to do it.
erik7272 said:
well i had a iphone myself, and it´s not a good phone. But some applications and games are very usefull and goodlooking. and with goodlooking i mean better than applications for the HD2. So if you never had a iphone stop talking about it. it´s like the same as people talking about the bible without reading it.
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Yeah there are some nice apps & games in iPhone.
As I believe HD2 can do more then what people might think,
running PSX games - possible
running SEGA / Gameboy / others - possible
running iPhone downloaded apps - I'm sure it is possible.
espaleena said:
Thx for the info mamv, after reading the website it seems possible to port
iPhone apps that's downloadable in the Apps Store to HTC. We just need some experts to do it.
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did you really read this article? and did you also understand whats neccessary to "port" an application? you need at least the sourcecode to do so! just downloading a various app and then say "ok, i'll port it" doesn't work
if the developer is willing to port (re-code) an app, then nearly every app can be ported, from nearly every system!
HD2 is a powerful device, the i-phone NO!
Hadware 's HD2, and not just hadware has no comparison to the i-phone, which is nothing but a cell phone more evolved than others and certainly not a PocketPC (say SMARPHONE AN ALMOST, ALMOST! SINCE MAY INSTALL APLICATIONS)
.. was Publicize properly and the people I have to buy, just for curiosity !!... made the news ..... few know the real smatphone!
The developers do admire beautiful of games for the iPhone, Anvendelser per screen capacitive, g-sensor, etc. ...
Why not do the same thing for the HD2 ????... WHY HAS NOT ONLY BEHIND THE BISNES who made the I-PHONE .. ALL HERE.
I-Phone bought many years and many will buy his aplicativo .... simple!
Now with HD2 hope someone aplicativo to invest more powerful and appropriate for this smartphone with the "S" capital ...
.. the people who bought the i-phone has noticed everything that does or fails to do ...
Hello to all and excuse the English ....
Understand?
vasta.antonio said:
HD2 is a powerful device, the i-phone NO!
Hadware 's HD2, and not just hadware has no comparison to the i-phone, which is nothing but a cell phone more evolved than others and certainly not a PocketPC (say SMARPHONE AN ALMOST, ALMOST! SINCE MAY INSTALL APLICATIONS)
.. was Publicize properly and the people I have to buy, just for curiosity !!... made the news ..... few know the real smatphone!
The developers do admire beautiful of games for the iPhone, Anvendelser per screen capacitive, g-sensor, etc. ...
Why not do the same thing for the HD2 ????... WHY HAS NOT ONLY BEHIND THE BISNES who made the I-PHONE .. ALL HERE.
I-Phone bought many years and many will buy his aplicativo .... simple!
Now with HD2 hope someone aplicativo to invest more powerful and appropriate for this smartphone with the "S" capital ...
.. the people who bought the i-phone has noticed everything that does or fails to do ...
Hello to all and excuse the English ....
Understand?
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Not true: the iPhone has much more powerful Open GL capabilities than the HD2 thanks to that custom PowerVR chip, the HD2 just isn't anywhere near powerful enough to emulate any iPhone software as all it has is raw horsepower. Just because the HD2 has a faster processor does not mean it is holistically 'better' - the iPhone hardware (particularly that of the 3Gs) is very powerful from a mobile graphics standpoint at least. The HD2 can barely cope with Windows Mobile centric apps for a whole day without crashing or lagging, and just look how much much smoother pinch to zoom is on Safari than Opera... the idea that it could emulate an iPhone app is insane, although I really would like it to be true as unfortunately I'm a big social networking and IM user and sadly Windows Mobile lags depressingly behind iPhone and Android in this respect - mainly owing to the embarrassing Windows Marketplace and a lack of definition and development pushing from Microsoft.
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did you really read this article? and did you also understand whats neccessary to "port" an application? you need at least the sourcecode to do so! just downloading a various app and then say "ok, i'll port it" doesn't work
if the developer is willing to port (re-code) an app, then nearly every app can be ported, from nearly every system!
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I didn't say things will be easy porting apps from iPhone to HD2 nor it
is impossible, the main thing is that it's possible to do it.
I do not think ...
But you have a HD2? ... Or you have AI-phone "phone"?
what you say is true only in part ..
I do not doubt that Mac has a duty ottomizato the requirements to run good games, but you can not compare with a PocketPC-phone forefront as HD2 ...
HD2 has everything in the I-Phone and much more ... then if windows is a bit limited in something, just because it does not only turn the games, but all or almost do it with a PC desktop laptop!!
Understand? is not a console but could also make the console, the I-Phone not know ...
my friends at I-Phone does not do many things ... you must carry it behind the PC!
I'm sure the games they play for I-PHONE HE CAN DO EVEN FOR WINDOWS, NOW WITH HD2 ONE CAN SAY YES!
The next
Hi,
im searchin for a new mobile... i wanted to buy it in the next 2 or 3 weeks, but there is a big problem:
i dunno what mobile would be the best for me :S
I am thinking about Windows mobile and Android ... The windows mobile phones i have used till now are quite nice, but no one really made me fully happy ... i always tried to port other interfaces and so on my lg ks20 and htc diamond.
i´ve seen that android has a quite nice interface with very good touch friendly options...
my windows mobile candidate would be of course the HTC Leo , what the android canditate would be is just open till now ...
I often browse in Wifi networks , like facebook, gmail, icq, etc. and therefor i am searching for an mobile with good browsing quality ... what camera there is ... i dont care about that crap ... just being comfortable in networks , chatting , sharing files and so on...
Hope you can help me ..
else any questions ? just post, i will directly answer.
See ya
Sallal
//EDIT: I saw now some androids and i think nexus one and desire are very good but , what is the difference between them ?
Hi,
In term of memory management Windows mobile is far way better and for the interface also you have a lot of ui for windows mobile that are now very close to the Android style that you are searching for(if not even better).
I first bought an HTC Hero and was very happy the first two months but then it became so boring because of that lack of programs for it.
Now I am on a Leo and I can assure you that the moment you will put this device in your hand,you will be impressed by his speed.
Hurry up before the HD3
what about the htc desire ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T4gEQKThsg
this video impressed me
Sense La Révolution for Windows Mobiles SPB Mobile Shell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKzIT5DhUZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QydHxYziKwY
Here it is in a nutshell,
Android is the new kid on the block, rough around the edges, not fully functional yet, short on apps, in dire need of updates, but with the genuine potential to be an actual iPhone killer ( hence Apple vs HTC suit solely filed to slow down Android ). Android is on it's way, but not going to be great until, after whatever Android phone you buy now, is old and tired.
Windows Mobile is tried and true, tons of free apps, full bluetooth functionality, full Exchange and Office functionality, easy to sync, fully customizable to your needs, but it is what it is and will not get any better. Whatever you buy now, will not be upgradeable to Windows Phone 7 Series, and WP7S would appear to be that " make it or break it " for
Windows Mobile.
In short ? Android = up and coming, but not quite there yet. Windows Mobile = Already mature, but could be on the down slide soon.
If you are living for today, Windows Mobile hands down. Come this fall ? Phones with Android 3.0 ? Windows Phone 7 Series ? Who knows.
The Nexus One is Googles Android device made by HTC, The Desire " was " the Droid Eris, but has since been reassigned to the HTC branded Nexus One.
@die_Leuchte: Danke für die videos, ich hab mich entschieden / Thanks for the Videos , now ive decided what to take
@denco7: i know it is a nutshell, but if i see what android showed on mwc for example, it seems that it has millions of apps and is just now the iphone killer ^^
just crap what they are sayin ?
sallal said:
@die_Leuchte: Danke für die videos, ich hab mich entschieden / Thanks for the Videos , now ive decided what to take
@denco7: i know it is a nutshell, but if i see what android showed on mwc for example, it seems that it has millions of apps and is just now the iphone killer ^^
just crap what they are sayin ?
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http://phandroid.com/2009/11/23/android-vs-windows-mobile/
Add to that limited Bluetooth capabilities and ( important to me ) limited M$ Exchange and Office capabilities it just isn't mature enough yet to be a serious multitasking phone for business.
Don't get me wrong, I think Android is the future of Mobile OS' . WP7s is going to have to do a lot to convince me otherwise. And I am leaning towards an Android phone after Android 3.0 and WP7s come out, just from what I have seen of Android 1.5, 1.6, 2.0 and 2.1 on the Nexus, I just still don't think that it is capable yet.
so you think that if you would buy a smartphone now, you would choose winmo...
if you could buy it in 2 years , you would choose maybe android ... right?
Do not be fooled by a shiny interface just like I was.Besides what you are seeing on an Android phone is the Sense UI made by HTC.
If I am not wrong the Nexus one doesn't have the Sense UI.
I am not telling that Android(in reality Linux) is not a good phone.On the contrary you will find it with very useful applications but in some cases just like what happened to me you will not have a wide range of choice for the same application.
For Ex:If you want a Virtual Keyboard,because Android is still new you will have only 2 or 3 keyboards(maybe there is more now) to choose from but on Windows Mobile you have more than 15 competitors to choose from with years of experience in that field .
So,
Android is for you if you can be satisfied with what you have.
Windows is for you if you are thirsty of applications
Hope this helped
thirsty guy
well, i always need to get more apps to have another quit unuseful thing on my mobile, like wifi router or so
then i take the leo ^^
EDIT: @forcefield: i recieved an email , that swype for android is out your problem is solved now
Here is a quote from another german forum
there is no "better" one, some like winmo and some android more ...
before i buyed my new phone i thinked about the hd2 and the milestone... i choosed the milestone and i dont regret nothing !
looking at the amount of apps i would choose android because its just much easier and uncomplicated .. with more apps than windows mobile.
i dont know whats the difference between the desire and the nexus one , but you can wait until they get on the german market to see more information..
pointing on the battery strength maybe its disapointing but i have to be honest, its normally just between 1 and 3 days depending on how you use your phone.
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i still think that windows mobile has more apps.. but the problem is , they are just widespread in the www.
battery: an issue what wont be solved in 500 years.
Original Post from http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/handyberatung/128679-suche_gutes_browsing_handy.html
Sry for the bad translation, it is freely made by me ^^
another question ... i you would have the choice between touch pro 2 aka rhodium and hd 2 aka leo , which one would you take ?
with reasons please =) ...
sallal
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
jadesdan said:
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android proted to WM is still a port. It runs within WM and some of the features of Android don't work and some of the features of the phone won't work with the Android port. It will never be as fast or as smooth as Android running natively.
sallal said:
another question ... i you would have the choice between touch pro 2 aka rhodium and hd 2 aka leo , which one would you take ?
with reasons please =) ...
sallal
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I would take the Leo, faster processor, bigger more beautiful display, more ram. The only plus for the Rhodium is the slide out keyboard.
But just remember that neither phone is going to be upgradable to Windows Phone 7 Series.
of course take the LEO!!!
I own Touch Diamond 2 (which is basically like TP2 without the slide out keyboard) and it's really great and everything. But then I also have access to Samsung Omnia II with 800 Mhz CPU and it's running so much faster and more smoothy. And the big display is insane!! Then go figure because HD2 even comes with 1 GHz!!!! IMO it would be stupid to buy the OLD TP2 with only 528 Mhz.....
jadesdan said:
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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No, there's no fully working Android version for any WM phone. They all have bugs and stuff not working.
Hey is it just me or is the FUZE just slow and lags all the time? i flashed the rom and put in the ENERGY ROM but it's still slow sometimes, especially when I text but even in general functions.
Does the internal memory have anything to do with speed? Is it possible for me to transfer all my text messages to my microsd (and to save future ones on my microsd card)? Thanks!
I was looking at apps for touch pro using the live marketplace and other sources as well. Man there aren't too many good ones; i think windows probably as the worst app selection, which iphone being best and android second am I right? Can someone correct me on this? For instance, I was just trying to find an English to Chinese dictionary; i searched for hours and I finally came up with one decent dictionary. In comparison, I used my friend's Iphone to look for one and a ton just came up in a few minutes wtf. man I'm really getting frustrated with this phone lol; i thought it'd be really great but honestly now i'm kind of disappointed. i might even just get an iphone just because there's so much platform support for it. So many websites have apps specifically designed for iphone that it's really convenient...the same can't be said for htc =/.
Have a look at these Chinese Dictionaries:
http://pocketpc.mobisystems.com/product.html?p=2&l=1&pid=157&i=1
http://pocketpc.mobisystems.com/product.html?p=2&l=1&pid=255&i=1
http://pocketpc.mobisystems.com/product.html?p=2&l=1&pid=283&i=1
http://pocketpc.mobisystems.com/product.html?p=2&l=1&pid=308&i=1
http://www.lingvosoft.com/LingvoSoft-Chinese-Platinum-Pack/
http://www.gakusoft.com/kinghanzi.htm
http://www.declan-software.com/pocket_pc/chinese/index.htm#dictionary
http://www.hnhsoft.com/dictec
Laggy device ! I'm on standard latest 6.1 ROM & not having any real issues. Probably related to ROM, settings or installed software.
Windows Mobile is far more flexible than iphone ect but it does need more user knowledge to get the most out of it.
I already looked at those for the most part...I was just looking for free dictionaries lol. I don't want to pay for one because 1) I'd rather use my money on other things lol 2) if i reset the device, I'm not sure if I can reinstall it so that could be a waste of money.
I can't believe one of them is 200 dollars wtf lol.
Btw, I would think that the game support for Windows Mobile would be great because well it's PPC so I assumed games would be easily ported from PC. Man the games suck on PPC lol. I tried installing COD2...the controls were so bad I gave up. The only good games I've gotten are NFS and this game called Meon.
Hmm so you think that the device's hardware is laggy or is it something about my phone? Do phones get slower over time?
I think the lack of support for Windows Mobile compared to Iphone and Android is definitely one of the big problems. the latter two OSs are so much more user friendly and intuitive (although they have their own problems but I think the benefits outweigh the cons). If only Iphone had a slideout keyboard lol...
Really depends on what you use the device for in regards to applications, I have software related to engineering calculations that is only available to PPC platform plus I like the hackability of CE platform giving the ability to make things how you want them.
Games are a bit limited but you can find a few good ones & also a few good emulators for sega ect.
Support is good for the PPC but not so much in the average mobile users needs for games & gizmo apps.
Is there a way to save all my text messages onto my microsd card and access it from there instead of saving it on the internal memory?
Hi,
Currently have an Axim X51v with WM6.1 and want to replace it with a Smartphone. I'm on Sprint and I narrowed my search down to 1) Touch Pro 2 with WM6.1, 2) HTC Hero 3) Samsung Moment, both with Android.
TP2 would give me a familiar OS and stylus. It's also going to cost $100 more, and I am concerned with battery life and speed - it's got a slightly slower processor than Axim. Not sure if the screen is bright enough in direct sunlight - Axim's isn't. If I get it I woud probably get rid of TouchFlo3D and install iPhoneToday, PocketBreeze, Calligrapher and FTouchSL.
OTOH I have no idea about Android, I'm concerned that I won't be able to find a decent replacement to ListPro, Excel or PocketInformant, and syncing data may be difficult (my employer blocks Google Docs for security reasons).
So can someone educate me on what can I expect moving from WM to Android, and if either Android device is faster or otherwise better than TP2 ?
Ummagumma said:
Hi,
Currently have an Axim X51v with WM6.1 and want to replace it with a Smartphone. I'm on Sprint and I narrowed my search down to 1) Touch Pro 2 with WM6.1, 2) HTC Hero 3) Samsung Moment, both with Android.
TP2 would give me a familiar OS and stylus. It's also going to cost $100 more, and I am concerned with battery life and speed - it's got a slightly slower processor than Axim. Not sure if the screen is bright enough in direct sunlight - Axim's isn't. If I get it I woud probably get rid of TouchFlo3D and install iPhoneToday, PocketBreeze, Calligrapher and FTouchSL.
OTOH I have no idea about Android, I'm concerned that I won't be able to find a decent replacement to ListPro, Excel or PocketInformant, and syncing data may be difficult (my employer blocks Google Docs for security reasons).
So can someone educate me on what can I expect moving from WM to Android, and if either Android device is faster or otherwise better than TP2 ?
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Go for the Samsung moment! windows mobile on tp2 swallows! It lags too much and the keyboard sucks unless you have skype the battery life is ok so is the screen. But the proccessor SUCKS! i would know from experience. it was rooted and would lag even with 6.1!
Plus android has alot more apps and flash player. And the moment has a keyboard which is a plus. The hero sense lags it at times so i wouldnt recommend it
I basically have 2 concerns - losing a stylus and thus the ability to take handwritten notes, and losing ability to move around documents without having to jump through hoops.
Also, have a question regarding multimedia capabilities - how would you rate Moment's ability to play MP3s (sound quality)
Ummagumma said:
I basically have 2 concerns - losing a stylus and thus the ability to take handwritten notes, and losing ability to move around documents without having to jump through hoops.
Also, have a question regarding multimedia capabilities - how would you rate Moment's ability to play MP3s (sound quality)
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Qualitys good i played with one when i stayed at my friends house. Im not gonna lie the android music player has thee worst graphical UI though. Unless you get the htc music app running your stuck with a lame player. If you dont find it loud enough root it and install audio hack. Its 1.99 i think but its well worth it. If you get the hero root it too and if it gets slow use set cpu its free here but it costs on the android market. Let me know when you decide
Alex530 said:
Qualitys good i played with one when i stayed at my friends house. Im not gonna lie the android music player has thee worst graphical UI though. Unless you get the htc music app running your stuck with a lame player. If you dont find it loud enough root it and install audio hack. Its 1.99 i think but its well worth it. If you get the hero root it too and if it gets slow use set cpu its free here but it costs on the android market. Let me know when you decide
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Any votes for the Touch Pro 2 ?
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Any votes for the Touch Pro 2 ?
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YES! If you need the android apps, you can get them on the TP2, the keyboard is the best on any device i have ever tried and it isn't laggy, the sprint firmware can be upgraded to a customROM over at PPCGeeks and here in the RhodW forum
If you do want Android native, i would get the Evo 4G, not the hero or the Moment. If i lived in th US i would get one, but i'm in the UK
I hope you make the right choice
Good luck
OK, thanks both of you guys for creating an utter confusion.
I do a lot of work related stuff on my Axim and WinMob with all its limitations has many tools for that. The main ones for me would be PhatPad for notetaking with stylus (like having a book of Sticky notes with you at all times), Excel, ListPro for information gathering, PocketInformant and Pocket Breeze for scheduling, and so on. Going with TouchPro2 I'd retain all of these tools. But then it's 2x more expensive, and possibly slow.
Samsung Moment seems to be snappier, Android is from what I heard more fun to use, and I save some bucks. OTOH would I still be able to do all the stuff I did on WM with it ? Who knows.. in the end I'm afraid it's going to be a coin toss.
Would it be a true statement that Android on Moment is faster, smoother and has longer battery life ? Also, what about reliability - I've had 2 phones from Samsung, one was great, another one piece of junk.
Yee!
Sorry bout that haha. But the tp2 sucks trust me im a previous owner and i spl unlocked it. After every rom id try it start to lag sometimes needing a reset. For some reason wm is like running hero rom on the g1. Flies at first but it sucks after a while. And the tp2 keyboard is aight. I personally like smaller keyboaRDS. And the optical trackball and notifications bar is better on the moment but like the other user. The evo 4g is key to success! HAha
I currently use a HTC TP2 with WinMobile 6.5 OS. While I have used PPC and WinMobile for perhaps ten years now, I am getting fed up with the instability of WinMobile. It crashes (hangs) about once a day. The only way to maintain stability is to watch the "Free RAM" gauge, and soft-boot it when it drops from 85 to 65 MB.
I am now considering moving over to Android (HTC Desire).
The main reason I have stayed with WinMobile for all these years are the apps I use. I suspect the instability I have experienced is using SPB Mobile Suite as a preferred UI and some other third party apps. Nonetheless, the instability is frustrating.
QUESTIONS
1) Is Android alot more stable than WinMobile (how often does it crash)?
2) Does Android allow using a microSD card with is formatted with FAT (I want to sometimes pull out the card and plug it into my desktop (WinVista) for sychronization and file transfer)?
3) Can Copy-Paste function be used across apps on Android?
4) Does Android have software that syncs with my desktop MS-Outlook (email, calendar, contacts)?
... thanks.
Android vs WinMobile.
Hello. Yes, it is a hole lot more stable.. and faster.
so. 1) on official roms it never crashes on itself (if the app is badly programmed, then it is the app that crashes and closes)
if you don't do anything naughty (like installing weird stuff that mangles with your cpu / os internals), the os is perfectly 101% stable.
2) by default every android phone out there uses microSD cards formatted with FAT32. there are "naughty" modifications (see above at point 1) that makes one partition the microSD for swap and ext3 for applications.
3) by design.
4) by design. it also syncs everything with google servers and exchange servers.
Android is compared to WinMob the first flight to the Moon
Android is very stable and other things u want u will get!
Android is just Perfect =) Iphone cant be better with his apps/games Android is much more then just an Appstarter like the Iphone!
I own and HD2 and my two previous phones were "Diamond 2" and "Diamond" so I've tryed all flavors of winmo for some time, and now that I'm running Android on my HD2, I can tell you that Android is really 101% stable, nothing to do with Winmo, there is no way I'm going back to winmo, plus I've found everything I used on Winmo in Android.
I was using a sprint tp2 and did the winmo 6.5 update and instantly regretted it. I hate that thing with a passion. It constantly lagged horrendiously and froze at least once a day. I got the HTC hero and satisfied to keep it until the dev's can no longer keep updating it.
There is an android port for the tp2, but not sure current status of it. You can run it for a little taste of android before spending money. Check craigslist and eBay for used phones. Got my hero for $100 with no contract extension when it was going for ~$80 in store with extensionand rebates.
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Even though android isn't fully developed for the HD2, it is as stable as windows mobile. When android is finished, it will be the clear winner in stability.
I just made the switch from the TP2 to the Desire about 2 weeks ago and from the start I have been very impressed. I fought constantly with different ROMs, tweaks and setups on WM trying to get it to just work when I needed it to. The desire isn't perfect, but in comparison it blows away the TP2. I was nervous about losing my hardware keyboard but I don't miss it as much as I thought I would. Still sometimes I wish I had it. It's worth a try though. You can always return the Desire and go back to your TP2.
Well I went from a unlocker tp2 switching between Mighty Rom and energy Rom. That phone did lag terribly a couple times a day, and is just way too slow. I upgraded to a rooted EVO switching between Vaelpak's rom and CM-6.0. Obvoiusly the EVO blows away that phone in every reguard. Overall Android has similar functions comapred to WM6.5 but is easier to use once you get used to it, and there is no comparison with the available apps for Android, you'll thng you won the lottery with all the apps you can get. Good luck
Touch -> Mogul -> TP -> TP2 -> EVO = free at last
Android 2.x's are much more stable than WM6.x's for me...no turning back now
I feel very happy since i installed android in my hd2, it runs smoothly and fast, no hangs. The only issue that i've found is the battery drainage
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Beeing a smartphone user for the last 5 years, I have tried, Symbian, WinMo, iPhone and Maemo and finally gone to Android. IMO if you are wandering between WinMo and Android in therms of functionality I must say that Android is the winner. It is more user friendly, more intuitive and I personally find it easier to use it. Even the new iPhone 4 fails to impress me when compared to my HD2 running Android 2.2.
The stability is virtually the same they both have certain things that will cause hangups and issues.
WinMo is NOT made for touch screen and any touch stuff going on is based on Sense or another overlay. Microsoft did what they could to get to the touch generation but it's a Gen behind for sure but it isn't a bad system. It just isn't "smart" when it comes to multitask.
Android is pretty customizable and is supported by a BEVY of programmers.
Here's the kicker though which may cause a problem soon:
Android is Linux based and Devs hate Linux for gaming etc. Win7 will be so much easier to port for since many devs are fmailiar with Window Programming and Win7 will make porting iOS games very easy.
For now, Android, for later, win7 may be the winner.
When I had a WinMo phone. I had to pull out battery quite some times as it freezed. On Android I've never had any problem. Even if something would crash. The app would force close and everything would be fine.
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1) Is Android alot more stable than WinMobile (how often does it crash)?
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By leaps and ******** bounds, man. The stock Android 2.2 firmware on my Nexus One is way more stable than any cooked Windows Mobile ROM I've ever tried on the three Windows Mobile devices I've used (MPx200, HTC_Excalibur, HTC_Fuze).
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2) Does Android allow using a microSD card with is formatted with FAT (I want to sometimes pull out the card and plug it into my desktop (WinVista) for sychronization and file transfer)?
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Yes.
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3) Can Copy-Paste function be used across apps on Android?
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No; it's application specific. Yes, it's completely stupid.
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4) Does Android have software that syncs with my desktop MS-Outlook (email, calendar, contacts)?
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Try this: http://www.companionlink.com/android.
Hope that helps!