Android or Windows Mobile ? - General Questions and Answers

Hi,
im searchin for a new mobile... i wanted to buy it in the next 2 or 3 weeks, but there is a big problem:
i dunno what mobile would be the best for me :S
I am thinking about Windows mobile and Android ... The windows mobile phones i have used till now are quite nice, but no one really made me fully happy ... i always tried to port other interfaces and so on my lg ks20 and htc diamond.
i´ve seen that android has a quite nice interface with very good touch friendly options...
my windows mobile candidate would be of course the HTC Leo , what the android canditate would be is just open till now ...
I often browse in Wifi networks , like facebook, gmail, icq, etc. and therefor i am searching for an mobile with good browsing quality ... what camera there is ... i dont care about that crap ... just being comfortable in networks , chatting , sharing files and so on...
Hope you can help me ..
else any questions ? just post, i will directly answer.
See ya
Sallal
//EDIT: I saw now some androids and i think nexus one and desire are very good but , what is the difference between them ?

Hi,
In term of memory management Windows mobile is far way better and for the interface also you have a lot of ui for windows mobile that are now very close to the Android style that you are searching for(if not even better).
I first bought an HTC Hero and was very happy the first two months but then it became so boring because of that lack of programs for it.
Now I am on a Leo and I can assure you that the moment you will put this device in your hand,you will be impressed by his speed.
Hurry up before the HD3

what about the htc desire ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T4gEQKThsg
this video impressed me

Sense La Révolution for Windows Mobiles SPB Mobile Shell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKzIT5DhUZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QydHxYziKwY

Here it is in a nutshell,
Android is the new kid on the block, rough around the edges, not fully functional yet, short on apps, in dire need of updates, but with the genuine potential to be an actual iPhone killer ( hence Apple vs HTC suit solely filed to slow down Android ). Android is on it's way, but not going to be great until, after whatever Android phone you buy now, is old and tired.
Windows Mobile is tried and true, tons of free apps, full bluetooth functionality, full Exchange and Office functionality, easy to sync, fully customizable to your needs, but it is what it is and will not get any better. Whatever you buy now, will not be upgradeable to Windows Phone 7 Series, and WP7S would appear to be that " make it or break it " for
Windows Mobile.
In short ? Android = up and coming, but not quite there yet. Windows Mobile = Already mature, but could be on the down slide soon.
If you are living for today, Windows Mobile hands down. Come this fall ? Phones with Android 3.0 ? Windows Phone 7 Series ? Who knows.
The Nexus One is Googles Android device made by HTC, The Desire " was " the Droid Eris, but has since been reassigned to the HTC branded Nexus One.

@die_Leuchte: Danke für die videos, ich hab mich entschieden / Thanks for the Videos , now ive decided what to take
@denco7: i know it is a nutshell, but if i see what android showed on mwc for example, it seems that it has millions of apps and is just now the iphone killer ^^
just crap what they are sayin ?

sallal said:
@die_Leuchte: Danke für die videos, ich hab mich entschieden / Thanks for the Videos , now ive decided what to take
@denco7: i know it is a nutshell, but if i see what android showed on mwc for example, it seems that it has millions of apps and is just now the iphone killer ^^
just crap what they are sayin ?
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http://phandroid.com/2009/11/23/android-vs-windows-mobile/
Add to that limited Bluetooth capabilities and ( important to me ) limited M$ Exchange and Office capabilities it just isn't mature enough yet to be a serious multitasking phone for business.
Don't get me wrong, I think Android is the future of Mobile OS' . WP7s is going to have to do a lot to convince me otherwise. And I am leaning towards an Android phone after Android 3.0 and WP7s come out, just from what I have seen of Android 1.5, 1.6, 2.0 and 2.1 on the Nexus, I just still don't think that it is capable yet.

so you think that if you would buy a smartphone now, you would choose winmo...
if you could buy it in 2 years , you would choose maybe android ... right?

Do not be fooled by a shiny interface just like I was.Besides what you are seeing on an Android phone is the Sense UI made by HTC.
If I am not wrong the Nexus one doesn't have the Sense UI.
I am not telling that Android(in reality Linux) is not a good phone.On the contrary you will find it with very useful applications but in some cases just like what happened to me you will not have a wide range of choice for the same application.
For Ex:If you want a Virtual Keyboard,because Android is still new you will have only 2 or 3 keyboards(maybe there is more now) to choose from but on Windows Mobile you have more than 15 competitors to choose from with years of experience in that field .
So,
Android is for you if you can be satisfied with what you have.
Windows is for you if you are thirsty of applications
Hope this helped

thirsty guy
well, i always need to get more apps to have another quit unuseful thing on my mobile, like wifi router or so
then i take the leo ^^
EDIT: @forcefield: i recieved an email , that swype for android is out your problem is solved now

Here is a quote from another german forum
there is no "better" one, some like winmo and some android more ...
before i buyed my new phone i thinked about the hd2 and the milestone... i choosed the milestone and i dont regret nothing !
looking at the amount of apps i would choose android because its just much easier and uncomplicated .. with more apps than windows mobile.
i dont know whats the difference between the desire and the nexus one , but you can wait until they get on the german market to see more information..
pointing on the battery strength maybe its disapointing but i have to be honest, its normally just between 1 and 3 days depending on how you use your phone.
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i still think that windows mobile has more apps.. but the problem is , they are just widespread in the www.
battery: an issue what wont be solved in 500 years.
Original Post from http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/handyberatung/128679-suche_gutes_browsing_handy.html
Sry for the bad translation, it is freely made by me ^^

another question ... i you would have the choice between touch pro 2 aka rhodium and hd 2 aka leo , which one would you take ?
with reasons please =) ...
sallal

I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.

jadesdan said:
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android proted to WM is still a port. It runs within WM and some of the features of Android don't work and some of the features of the phone won't work with the Android port. It will never be as fast or as smooth as Android running natively.
sallal said:
another question ... i you would have the choice between touch pro 2 aka rhodium and hd 2 aka leo , which one would you take ?
with reasons please =) ...
sallal
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I would take the Leo, faster processor, bigger more beautiful display, more ram. The only plus for the Rhodium is the slide out keyboard.
But just remember that neither phone is going to be upgradable to Windows Phone 7 Series.

of course take the LEO!!!
I own Touch Diamond 2 (which is basically like TP2 without the slide out keyboard) and it's really great and everything. But then I also have access to Samsung Omnia II with 800 Mhz CPU and it's running so much faster and more smoothy. And the big display is insane!! Then go figure because HD2 even comes with 1 GHz!!!! IMO it would be stupid to buy the OLD TP2 with only 528 Mhz.....

jadesdan said:
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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No, there's no fully working Android version for any WM phone. They all have bugs and stuff not working.

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Meizu M8 MiniOne

Is this thing for real?
http://www.meizu-minione.info/m8_iphone_comparison.php
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...g-8gb-first-gets-70-price-increase-285800.php
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/03/05/details-emerge-on-meizu-m8-minione-pricing/
http://www.intoiphone.com/apple-iphone-competitors-killers
I mean..
>500MHz
720x480 x 24bpp screen
integrated storage >8GB
Windows Mobile 6
WCDMA and GSM
and it starts at $195?
is this some kind of fantasy?
It is real, but it is far from $195, closer to $800. According to them it is scheduled to come out in December but you won't see it until next year.
May i remind you that i've never heard of Meizu before, its a newcomer, expect bugs and even shortcuts...
ayakabob said:
May i remind you that i've never heard of Meizu before, its a newcomer, expect bugs and even shortcuts...
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Meizu has been making MP3 players ( http://en.meizu.com/ ) for 4 years, but that's true: they hasn't made any Windows CE based device ever, until now.
I supose this Phone has Windows CE 6.0 Core, and own GUI so it can be uncompatible with Windows Mobile 6 stuff (CE 5.2)
They are offering another Iphone clone for 169 Euros in the NL. The CECT Clone. So the pricing could be correct.
This will run probably CE 5.2 so we can take all the goodies we have to this phone and from this phone!
croco_64 said:
I supose this Phone has Windows CE 6.0 Core, and own GUI so it can be uncompatible with Windows Mobile 6 stuff (CE 5.2)
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Yes, As I read it doesn't run WM6 but Windows CE 6.0 under a special miniOne GUI so it can't run conventional Pocket PC apps. Unless the miniOne GUI only an app which runs on WM6 but I haven't read about this anywhere, so it isn't likely.
It can run most PPC apps, that's real.
Yeah, multitouch and USB Host / Client
now that's what i call an iPhone killer :O
the functions / ui of the apple phone + the things i love about wm (great community, so much programs, etc.)
I just stopped into a Meizu store today (I live in china) and saw this phone and heard of it for the first time. It looks very cool though. The price is around $350 US and has 8GB and is multi-touch. I think I want one
it definitely looks as the best PMP player and phone together.
if only it could run WM apps, it would rock..
Apps on Meizu
I got my hands on one of these devices and it is pretty slick. There are still lots of bugs in the os, but new versions are still being put out there. It sucks that it does not run WM apps. I have found 2 that work. Coreplayer and TCPMP run well on it, but really are not needed because the integrated player works well.
I am hoping someone will develop a Windows Mobile rom that will run on this device. It would really rock.
i really want this phone. It may not be an HTC phone but Meizu has some big potential.
csasek said:
I just stopped into a Meizu store today (I live in china) and saw this phone and heard of it for the first time. It looks very cool though. The price is around $350 US and has 8GB and is multi-touch. I think I want one
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M8 only GSM, no 3G?
And still in beta version not public market for sell
heehee2001hk said:
M8 only GSM, no 3G?
And still in beta version not public market for sell
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just ordered on of these phones from best deals online in singapore. £689 SGD or bout £311. not sure if i trust site so i put COD. see what happens.someone will develop a rom for that which make it rock. still only available as beta as stated previously due to licensing probs. don't know how they can sell it but i want one. so much potential
M8
you all should look at www.meizume.com
it rocks or not
have seen this Phone
before i am out
to buy my HTC TP2
in some Onlinestore`s
the Technical Data Rocks,
soo i ll say ,
but think, its a big Problem,
with runing, all the Win CE / WIMO
Software, and on a lot of Threads i
read, that the Bugs almost not
solved from one to another Firmware
they always only put
only new Options in
and didnt Solve the Bugs
USB Host OTG i am not sure that is implemtet,
and TV Out, also too not implementet yet.
will wait and give Meizu
a Chance to come with a good Concept !
Stable and Bugfree Sortware and OS
greetings
sad_but_true

Tattoo vs Touch 2

Hello, I have a question. I have an opportunity to buy tattoo or touch 2 for cheap price (so no other phones is an opportunity)
Which is better? As far as I checked - only difference is OS, windows mobile 6.5 vs android 1.6, so the question - which OS is better?
So far I heard:
Windows mobile 6.5:
+ Have better multi tasking
+ More apps ready, easier to find cracked apps
- Little slower
Android 1.6:
+ More friendly interface
+ Faster
+ Uses mostly freeware
- Not so easy to find apps
Anyone can give some other pluses or minuses for these OS? So I can decide?
Heard that touch2 can have dual OS, but then android doesnt work 100%?
Welcome to forums
pdadb.net will give you smoe valuable info regarding your comparative
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer
Tnx about link, but I know all info about these (exept one thing, whats "Built-in accelerometer"? My eng isnt that good, it thing that, if u rotate ur phone, the window will switch to landscape/portrait ?)
I want more compare of the OS for these... Which is better, whats pluses and minuses ...
i own HTC Mega (touch2) , well , for 1 week from the making of HSPL we could choose between 3 custom ROMs ;]] more are starting to come out ... if u can take the two phones for 10-15 mins , surf everything , then u can decide best ! although , when i ordered my phone as soon as i saw WinMo6.5 it was no doubt that this was mine ;]] actually i've never had any HTC phone before and didnt know what to expect whatever u choose u wont be dissapointed
I touched tattoo for about 3min, just had no clue what to check out... Previus phone was old nokia 6233...
Saw touchscreen, some icons etc, but I just want ppl to write whats better in these two OS, so I can choose...
I cant say that I want to take touch2 cos of wm6.5 cos Im not fan of win, I rather think about tattoo cos android is new and good OS...

switch symbian os to windows os

hey guys
i am new to the fourm and i want to ask about a strange thing
i have htc hd2 runing windows mobile
then i bought a samsung hd phone runing symbian
and i want to erase the symbian and install any windows mobile version
can any one help me about that
i can pay for this
thank you all for you time
Not possible
archi_mahmoud said:
hey guys
i am new to the fourm and i want to ask about a strange thing
i have htc hd2 runing windows mobile
then i bought a samsung hd phone runing symbian
and i want to erase the symbian and install any windows mobile version
can any one help me about that
i can pay for this
thank you all for you time
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officially impossible.
non-officially: talk to the ROM chefs to come up with a decent cooked ROM
OmniaHD? Way to downgrade.
Symbian S60 is god-awful, especially S60V5.. what were they thinking? It's so locked down. Give me my WinMo and cooked rom flexibility any day of the week!
Actually, there was an insider ROM for WM7 which was used by Microsoft for showoff reasons.
But it is prolly gonna be like Cobalt for the Tungsten T3 - it will never leak out...
IIRC, the phone used by microsoft was different to the Omnia I8910HD. It did however look very similar, but the case was different at least. (That doesn't mean it wasn't one, but I doubt it, and expect it to simply be a ad hoc demo device, apposed to a ROM that will never be released).
On a side note, I do agree, S60 is somewhat crap, I can't stand the full screen QWERTY keyboard, and is very locked down. It can be hacked to run some apps from the OVI store etc though, like OVI maps (about the only good thing). But then again, it does shoot good quality video.

N900 or HD2?

Hi all...
Can anyone offer suggestions here?
I have an N900 (with 48GB of memory)... I used to own an HD2 but sold it as it had a dead pixel and that kind of thing bugs me.
I am in the situation where I can swap my N900 for a nice new HD2.
What to do? What will be better long term, Win7Phone ROMs coming to HD2? MeeGo to N900?
I love the browsing abilities of the N900, but lack of notifications and apps designed for the native screen size.
I love the HUGE screen on the HD2, like the slim design, but it lacks the built in memory, so would need to buy a 32GB microSD when it comes out. Is there a Spotify client?
Looking to do the deal tomorrow so your thoughts would be appreciated.
Paul.
you can use myspot as a spotify client on the HD2 and is so so so so much faster with it's 1GHz processor.
Zac.Santer said:
you can use myspot as a spotify client on the HD2 and is so so so so much faster with it's 1GHz processor.
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OK sounds good... I'm guessing it wouldn't be as "pretty" as the official Android and iPhone apps?
And is it free?
Of course Leo!!
WM OS above any Nokia OS
how about a desire?...with same/better specs than hd2,more friendly OS and android 2.2 coming (which is by the way 2-5 times faster than the current version) i personally think those two don't stand a chance...
and of course nokia sucks...imo
edit: oh sorry i missed the sentence when you said that only those two are on table....i personally don't prefer nokia at all,especially not over htc...especially the one with that caliber
HD2 if only for the capacitive screen.
Stick with HTC and gain all the valued info of XDA
Flip a coin
Heads = HD2
tails = HD2
easy
nosh10 said:
Flip a coin
Heads = HD2
tails = HD2
easy
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lol just buy an hd2 if you have the money.
Stuck with the N900.
I couldn't sacrifice the drop in storage as I carry all my music on my device, along with movies and audiobooks with space to spare.
TheMathMan said:
Stuck with the N900.
I couldn't sacrifice the drop in storage as I carry all my music on my device, along with movies and audiobooks with space to spare.
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your choice
tell us if it's good
TheMathMan said:
Stuck with the N900.
I couldn't sacrifice the drop in storage as I carry all my music on my device, along with movies and audiobooks with space to spare.
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my heart broke a little
marduk79 said:
my heart broke a little
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I'm sorry marduk.
But how can I play all my music and videos without compromise on the move with an HD2?
N900 if u want/expect for MeeGo. N900 wins too in Games, don´t in number but in potential. What is means? Now with PR 1.2, n900 uses the QT 4.6, the same as the new Symbian ^3. So, for developers its easy port games that make in Symbian to Maemo. For now it´s promise 10 games, so far but when N8 comes may be this number goes high. Android comes (by community) to N900, as well its possible (better at the moment than HTC HD2).
HTC HD2, if u want a big and capacitive screen and the possibility to put a lot of ROMs on it, to turns your experience more personal. But WinMO doesn´t provide nothing to use this hardware... And MS, does **** with WinMO 7 so, for me it´s a very bad business.
If u need help with Maemo i´m here, u are don´t alone.
Thanks viperbruno.
I think I'll be a lot more happy when they actually relaunch the OVI store for the N900 with Angry Birds and Zen Bound etc... This was meant to happen yesterday but still waiting!!
I guess I just miss the gorgeous display and the joy of watching videos and reading texts on the HD2. I wish they made 32+GB microSD cards.
OK... back on the idea of changing my N900 to an HD2 / Nexus One. That is my current option.
What are your thoughts on if / when Windows Phone 7 or Android coming to the HD2 versus MeeGo coming to the N900?
TheMathMan said:
OK... back on the idea of changing my N900 to an HD2 / Nexus One. That is my current option.
What are your thoughts on if / when Windows Phone 7 or Android coming to the HD2 versus MeeGo coming to the N900?
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Official what coming:
HTC HD2 - nothing
Nokia n900 - Meego as well (September the final version, beta at July) but without any support from Nokia. Better that nothing.
Unofficial:
HTC HD2 - XDA could make WinMO 7 for with but don't expect a lot from it, it's just my opinion...
Nokia N900 - Could be everything and nothing at the same time, but I have see on Internet that Nokia will turn off Symbian from nseries, and put Meego on it, so I think that is possible to expect a lot from it. To know: Nokia N8 is the last model (from nseries) with Symbian.
My suggestion: Wait a little. HTC will realise new "Pro" models - rumor: a HTC HD2 pro edition - Nokia haves something to say in Augustus (with Symbian ^3 and QT 4.6, it turns easy to port apps to Maemo)...

[Q] Switch between Android, Win Phone 7, and WinMo 6.5 on the same device?

hi guys,
I'd like to know if it possible because I've been using my Xperia x1 for about a year and i think it's time for a change but when I checked all the available phones I got confused a little.
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great but in a review i saw somewhere it says that it lacks some important features such as:
No Bluetooth file transfers
No USB mass storage mode
No multitasking
No copy/paste
No Flash or Silverlight support in the web browser
No DivX/XviD video support
No internet tethering support
Swapping memory card requires hard reset; cards not readable by computer
and Android has great features but IMO I think WinMo gives more freedom in the terms of using or hacking
and as a WinMo 6.5 user I find it a great OS with all the features needed and if there some feature I want that is not already offered it's available here on XDA-Dev either as a .cab or cooked in a ROM
So the Main Question: if I buy a Sonyericsson (X10 maybe) or a HTC with a 1 GHz Processor will I be able to install any OS of them as a ROM???
Thanx in advance.
The only device capable of running WP7 is the hTC Leo and it has actually working Android and some working on Ubuntu and Maemo as well.
not any other device will be capable to do so
Thanx for reply
So the HD2/Leo is able to handle all 3 OSs
but i have more questions please
how is the HD2 up to date regarding the specs? like the RAM, ROM, and processor
can there be 2 OSs in the same time and to be able to switch between them?
and does android 2.2 froyo work 100% i mean with everything working??
thanx again
ahmedsalem89 said:
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great
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I'm intreagued, what about the duplo phone looks great to you?
The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.
samizad said:
The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.
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Well, it's clear now that the HD2 is one of the best phones out there as it's capable of handling nearly the 3 OSs, Thanx for ur help
Any chance for Desire to use WP7 too?
I would be great if it is possible.
I wanna try WP7 too.

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