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HI guys,
I'm the owner of HTC clone T3238 and I'm wondering about few things:
1. which graphic card (hardware) is inside?
2. did anybody succeed to install touchflo 3d?
3. currently, i'm running spbmobile shell 3.5 but 3d carousel is not working most probably due to a missing opengl driver. Therefore is there any opengl driver for such phone?
Thanks,
...MpegTv....

it's wiki page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elf
1. non everything is software rendering and the cpu only being a omap 200Mhz not much speed
3. no

I'm sorry but you're not right.
This phone HTC clone T3238 has CPU:Marvell Pxa310 on 624MHZ, 256MB Flash Rom+128MB Ram, wifi, gps...... It's a copy of HTC JADE 100
That's completly different phone from the link that you've posted.
it looks the same as in this link http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1479&c=htc_touch_3g_htc_jade_100 and the only difference is better CPU on 624 MHz.
Anybody knows what kind of vga card is inside?
....MpegTV....

my bad
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351986&page=45
this thread is about if Qualcomm MSM7225 cpu it use is with ati imidon or not

t4242+ open gl?
MpegTv said:
I'm sorry but you're not right.
This phone HTC clone T3238 has CPU:Marvell Pxa310 on 624MHZ, 256MB Flash Rom+128MB Ram, wifi, gps...... It's a copy of HTC JADE 100
That's completly different phone from the link that you've posted.
it looks the same as in this link and the only difference is better CPU on 624 MHz.
Anybody knows what kind of vga card is inside?
....MpegTV....
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Hi, did anyone solve this isue?
I have a t4242+ and i want to know if it has hardware support for opengl..
Thanks a lot!

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Overclock Treo 750v CPU?

Is there a program out there that would effectively overclock the Treo's CPU?
nope not yet. I contacted the developer of XCUPScalar who told me the proc was not yet supported.
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Version 3.03
New: More XSCALE PDA's supported:
Added generic support for all XSCALE PDA's. Should support more Xscale PDA's than before including hp iPAQ 6925, HTC Advantage X7500 and many others that couldn't work before.
Automatic override of built-in autoscaling that's in newer PDA's. Allows for better overclocking.
Better stability.
http://www.immiersoft.com/download.htm
Pocket Hack Master 4.11.029
Summary: Pocket PC Magazine Best Software 2006 Finalist! Managed CPU scaling approach based on CPU load! Supports Intel® XScale™ and Bulverde™, Samsung® S3C24xx™ and Texas Instruments® OMAP™ processors.
Requirements: Any XScale (PXA21x, PXA25x or PXA26x), Bulverde (PXA27x), Samsung S3C (S3C2410, S3C2410A, S3C2440, S3C2440A or S3C2442) or TI OMAP processor, PPC2002, WM2003/WM2003SE or WM5 device.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7258
radonsg said:
Pocket Hack Master 4.11.029
Summary: Pocket PC Magazine Best Software 2006 Finalist! Managed CPU scaling approach based on CPU load! Supports Intel® XScale™ and Bulverde™, Samsung® S3C24xx™ and Texas Instruments® OMAP™ processors.
Requirements: Any XScale (PXA21x, PXA25x or PXA26x), Bulverde (PXA27x), Samsung S3C (S3C2410, S3C2410A, S3C2440, S3C2440A or S3C2442) or TI OMAP processor, PPC2002, WM2003/WM2003SE or WM5 device.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7258
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Seems to work for me under WM6 as well!!
hb88xx said:
Seems to work for me under WM6 as well!!
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Any way to remove the icon on the bottom of the Today screen?
hb88xx said:
Seems to work for me under WM6 as well!!
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it looks good, i'll try it
hb88xx said:
Seems to work for me under WM6 as well!!
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What speed are you running at now on your 750 once you've overclocked it? Does it affect the battery life?
...and are you truly getting any significant performance benefit for the (I assume reduced) battery life trade off?
Does ths program work on treo 750..? Everyone as reported that it does but when I go to purchase it it says not supported for treo 750...?

TI OMAP850 vs INTEL PXA27X

This is a question that maybe a lot of members have.
As we known OMAP850 has 2 cores 200 Mhz for GSM and 200 Mhz for WM App
And that is great ... But what happend with INTEL Processors?
I was looking info on the web about PXA27X and how manage the Mhz when WM have app running and have a incoming call.
Example. If a INTEL PXA27X has 400 Mhz how much Mhz will gone in GSM.
Or INTEL PXA27X has another core for GSM? Like OMAP850?
Or when has a incomming call the 400Mhz goes to 300Mhz or less ?
I got a TEK S200 and I ask this because I wanna buy another PDA, maybe HTC, ETEN or HP and i have this doubt.
gzprophet said:
This is a question that maybe a lot of members have.
As we known OMAP850 has 2 cores 200 Mhz for GSM and 200 Mhz for WM App
And that is great ... But what happend with INTEL Processors?
I was looking info on the web about PXA27X and how manage the Mhz when WM have app running and have a incoming call.
Example. If a INTEL PXA27X has 400 Mhz how much Mhz will gone in GSM.
Or INTEL PXA27X has another core for GSM? Like OMAP850?
Or when has a incomming call the 400Mhz goes to 300Mhz or less ?
I got a TEK S200 and I ask this because I wanna buy another PDA, maybe HTC, ETEN or HP and i have this doubt.
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I'm not really sure what you mean - do you mean if the CPU has enough computation power to execute other tasks while the GSM is active?
If you have followed my articles (most importantly, the ones concerning recording phone calls), you already know the answer: yes, the CPU has the power to execute almost anything else. I haven't made exact CPU usage benchmarks (with acbTaskMan), but I don't think the CPU usage of the GSM module is higher than, say, 20% on a 416 MHz XScale.
it all depends on yr usage. and what u do with yr pda phone.
omap is good for battery life, if u just do appointment & task, simple mp3 leisure yes its for u (dun think abt video)
samsung chip, for 3g, good for almost all but cant support better playback for dvd quality example MOV files on tcpmp
intel chip, 416mhz is good for everything, skype, youtube, mov dvd quality video play back. but battery life sucks...
as HTC use more of TI OMAP on non 3g or SAMSUNG chip for 3g device.
while O2 Asia use INTEL chip for all the devices but have customize the chip so that u can choose between PERFORMANCE or BATTERY LIFE. appears in XDA IIi (htc/ppc2003), STEALTH (gigabyte/wm5), Zinc (asus/wm5/6), Atom Life (quanta/wm5/6), Flame (arima/wm5). so far only o2/asus/gigabyte have such feature for their pda phone.
so if you like multifunction/tasking(skype/msn/wifi/internet radio/surfing). get a good device, like ATOM LIFE
oh one more, XDA 1 is using INTEL 150mhz if i recall haha
so if u like intel so much & u want that speed, find wallaby haha
Tabbe said:
samsung chip, for 3g, good for almost all but cant support better playback for dvd quality example MOV files on tcpmp
intel chip, 416mhz is good for everything, skype, youtube, mov dvd quality video play back. but battery life sucks...
as HTC use more of TI OMAP on non 3g or SAMSUNG chip for 3g device.
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Also add the new Qualcomm MSM7200 chipset. It seems hardware manufacturers are switching to it and ditch at least the not very multimedia-friendly Samsung. (I bet something similar will alos happen to XScale, unless they manage to radically reduce their power consumption.)
Tabbe said:
oh one more, XDA 1 is using INTEL 150mhz if i recall haha
so if u like intel so much & u want that speed, find wallaby haha
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f-ing idiots should just keep their mouths shut. It's 208MHz, you moron. And the guy is asking about processor division of resources, not saying he wants Intel. GOT THAT? or do you need further translation?
raymondu999: I'm gonna ask you to control yourself next time. Such attitude will not be tolerated here. Thank you.
"while O2 Asia use INTEL chip for all the devices "
o2 is a phone company they dont make phones the oem phones from other companys
afaik the omap850 is not a real dual-core cpu, because both cores are not the same. one is used for normal apps and the OS and a simpler one takes care of the GSM part.
So... OMAP850 is a Simple Processor for GSM + 200 Mhz Processor for apps
Then my doubt is how Intel manage this, if a device has a spec of processor 416mhz , this 416mhz are for GSM and Apps.
I read in some posts that Intel processors has troubles to manage GSM-APPS-WIFI etc.
intel dont magede gsm and wifi
it's handled by 3th party chips i believe
it would simply see them as IO devices

Which Device is faster?

Which Device is faster? Kaiser or Universal
Using the following processors & clock speed:
Kaiser processor (Qualcomm® MSM 7200, 400MHz) &
Universal (Intel Bulverde 520 MHz processor)
I was confused between the two.
Best Regards
Hi !
I own both.
Universal "feels" faster, also benchmarks give better results for the Universal CPU.
Technically the Kaiser *should* be faster (due to having a later version of the ARM instructions), however 1) WM5/6 doesn't support the extra instructions and 2) the Kaiser is missing drivers for its Graphics chip, so any graphics intensive program runs extremely slow.
Yep, it's nice to see that thanks to HTCs business device policy our Uni is still running top of the line... counted out the handful of really 3D enabled devices
Is Universal the fastest Windows Mobile device available?
Lol..
Try XDA2i in its original state (WM2k3) and feel the difference
Any new ideas about changing my Universal to a beter and faster device !
Best Regards
upgrading to WM6.1 definitely gives the edge over the spped, should give it a try, you can start with Ranju's unbeatable V7.4 ROM for starters.

New Touch Flo 3D UI for Wizard!!!!

Hey all the rom cooks and others see this link and see if we can get this on our wizards??
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-touch-diamond-full-part2-en.shtml
if already available plz attach on this thread thnx.....
Did not work on Wizard, because Diamonds are to different from Wizards (hardware). This will be a secret wish.
Greetings Mirko
It does look great and I think alot of people over at Dev. and Hacking section have some skins with Mortscript and throttle launcher or whatever that are similar to Touch Flo 3D. But for me, they were too memory hungry for our 30 MB or less of unused RAM wizards. I can't afford to run those UI programs in the background, hell, I have a hard enough time getting new Opera to run while streaming satellite radio or which ever other program, for that matter.
Not just that, the cpu speed is too slow, doesn't have a graphics chip which means software rendering.
Here is the link for TouchFLO UI in case anyone want's to try it!
Thanks to Dev. and Hacking Threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390553
gehzumteufel said:
Not just that, the cpu speed is too slow, doesn't have a graphics chip which means software rendering.
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Yeah i dont think anyone could get anything that good on the wizard
Wizard
CPU: 195 Mhz
RAM: 64 MB
Diamond
CPU: 528 Mhz
RAM: 192 MB
Unless someone can code up something that doesnt need alot of power and also looks good, but idk??
lets hope we can get some one to design a similar ui for our wizards, in a way that they consume less memory and cpu power........

[TO-DO]Found Some Intresting stuff on HTC Site

Hello!!
This thread Is For Future Development so Mods plz Don't alter this thread at least pm me before...
while Browsing the HTC site, i opened up sites of 3 different zones i mean:
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[B]HTC MAGIC INDIA[/B]
http://www.htc.com/in/product/magic/specification.html
[B]HTC MAGIC EUROPE[/B]
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/magic/specification.html
[B]HTC HERO WORLDWIDE[/B]
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
& just compared the HTC Magic from India, Europe & HTC Hero from worldwide site...
Some Differences Found:
HTC Magic from India has:
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1. Processor ----------Qualcomm® [B]MSM7200A™[/B], 528 MHz
2. Memory: ------------ROM: 512 MB [B]RAM: 288 MB[/B]
3. Has(+) --------------[B]HTC Sync™[/B]
4. Has(+) --------------[B]Microsoft® Exchange Server synchronization[/B]
While HTC Magic From Europe had the following difference:
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1. Processor ----------Qualcomm® [B]MSM7201a™[/B], 528 MHz
2. Memory: ------------ROM: 512 MB [B]RAM: 192 MB[/B]
3. Lacks(-) -------------[B]HTC Sync™[/B]
4. Lacks(-) -------------[B]Microsoft® Exchange Server synchronization[/B]
And the HTC Hero Has +points on both of the above are:
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1. Connectivity --------------------3.5 mm audio jack
2. Camera -------------------------5.0 megapixel color camera with auto focus
3. Audio supported formats ----Windows Media® Audio 9
4. Video supported formats ----Windows Media® Video 9
Now the main reason for this Thread,
Seeing the Differences,
The Europe Magic May be lacking the Extra RAM Due to some Processor Changes, Bootloader & Boot image Which allots less space for RAM & more for Internal Space...
So I think It Can Gain That Extra RAM by making changes to the above stuffs... More over HTC Sync™ & Microsoft® Exchange Server synchronization can be added to future ROM's...
Then Leaving The Indian Magic, because It has Most of Them... We Skip to Compare HERO to these Phones & even add G1/DREAM/ADP1..
The 5 MP Camera & 3.5 mm audio jack Cannot Be added, as its an Hardware Spec, But We can add those Missing Codecs Windows Media® Audio 9 & Windows Media® Video 9 to HTC MAGIC & HTC G1/DREAM/ADP1
For that we need the Original HERO Gallery, Some Frameworks & Libraries which may be missing in current HERO ROM(Provided By Haykuro)...
So This post is for Future to-do to the Developers at XDA-Developers Android Section... Stuffs to Be done as soon as The Proper Hero ROM is available.
SANGEET
Based on my research, MSM2700A chip only goes up to 400MHz. 2701A is the one that has 528MHz and is used in all HTC's android phones.
As to the memory problem, I think the 288MB RAM is just the same storey as the 192MB claimed for G1. The MSM2700 series chips are asymmetric, which means, external memory has to be split in two in hardware. In G1, only half of the 192M RAM is avaiable to the application processor, while the rest is dedicated to radio and probably video. So I think for Hero, 288MB is the total memory and we have 192M available to the OS (96M for the armv6 chip as in G1).
Also, the MSM2700 series comes with Windows Media and RealNetworks format support, but I guess some of the drivers and codecs cannot be included in an open-source project. Now the HTC way is much closed and commercial, so WMA and WMV support is possible.
billc.cn said:
Also, the MSM2700 series comes with Windows Media and RealNetworks format support, but I guess some of the drivers and codecs cannot be included in an open-source project. Now the HTC way is much closed and commercial, so WMA and WMV support is possible.
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Ya i know its closed source, But still we can port it as done with the PDFviewer & many more HTC stuffs ported from 1 phone to another...
& the Hardware stuff I dont know more about it but ll say that the MSM2700 series is also capable to be overclocked to 527.~ Mhz coz my adp1 has it & can be successfully be overclocked to 527 Mhz...
But if u r an hardware expert then dont know, may be its showing fake reading of cpu overclocked to 528 on my adp1
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Ya i know its closed source, But still we can port it as done with the PDFviewer & many more HTC stuffs ported from 1 phone to another...
& the Hardware stuff I dont know more about it but ll say that the MSM2700 series is also capable to be overclocked to 527.~ Mhz coz my adp1 has it & can be successfully be overclocked to 527 Mhz...
But if u r an hardware expert then dont know, may be its showing fake reading of cpu overclocked to 528 on my adp1
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MSM2700A & MSM2701A are the same, the main difference is the MSM2701A is actually a Dual Core processor. (weird they didn't put it into the new US Magic) It uses 1 core for all your phone processes (making calls, etc) and it uses the other core for all your android OS processes... pretty cool huh? Both can be upto 528Mhz
Oooo I want a 2701a
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Oooo I want a 2701a
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yea, the G1's have it... I was going to get the Touch (HTC Magic) but if it doesn't have the 2701a then i don't want it. lol. Plus i'll miss my keyboard too much. I hate onscreen keyboards. no matter how much they make it "type correctly", it never works lol.
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But We can add those Missing Codecs Windows Media® Audio 9 & Windows Media® Video 9 to HTC MAGIC & HTC G1/DREAM/ADP1
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I'm so interested because those codecs are necessary to Play and see, web-streaming tv that use wmv codecs.
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MSM2700A & MSM2701A are the same, the main difference is the MSM2701A is actually a Dual Core processor. (weird they didn't put it into the new US Magic) It uses 1 core for all your phone processes (making calls, etc) and it uses the other core for all your android OS processes... pretty cool huh? Both can be upto 528Mhz
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Stop posting stuff like that. Those processors are THE SAME. The're a patent issue involved that made them change names. And a diference in coding video (not that we care right now with our crappy cameras).
RPG0 said:
Stop posting stuff like that. Those processors are THE SAME. The're a patent issue involved that made them change names. And a diference in coding video (not that we care right now with our crappy cameras).
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So It means The Processors same But Differently named due to some issues, wish we could get a 600 Mhz or 1 Ghz processor to get far more than that ****** iPhone...
Leave that, or the thread may get slipped to off toppic...
Just start posting here when someone provides the Release version of HERO ROM which is complete....Posting about porting/adding those codecs
As we know HTC's Gona provide ROM's to HTC Branded Androids, & G1 cant Run the full ROM @ that speed as Magic & Hero can achieve, So we can only port some of this stuff so it at-least runs @ normal speed...

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