Which Device is faster? Kaiser or Universal
Using the following processors & clock speed:
Kaiser processor (Qualcomm® MSM 7200, 400MHz) &
Universal (Intel Bulverde 520 MHz processor)
I was confused between the two.
Best Regards
Hi !
I own both.
Universal "feels" faster, also benchmarks give better results for the Universal CPU.
Technically the Kaiser *should* be faster (due to having a later version of the ARM instructions), however 1) WM5/6 doesn't support the extra instructions and 2) the Kaiser is missing drivers for its Graphics chip, so any graphics intensive program runs extremely slow.
Yep, it's nice to see that thanks to HTCs business device policy our Uni is still running top of the line... counted out the handful of really 3D enabled devices
Is Universal the fastest Windows Mobile device available?
Lol..
Try XDA2i in its original state (WM2k3) and feel the difference
Any new ideas about changing my Universal to a beter and faster device !
Best Regards
upgrading to WM6.1 definitely gives the edge over the spped, should give it a try, you can start with Ranju's unbeatable V7.4 ROM for starters.
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Is there a program out there that would effectively overclock the Treo's CPU?
nope not yet. I contacted the developer of XCUPScalar who told me the proc was not yet supported.
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Version 3.03
New: More XSCALE PDA's supported:
Added generic support for all XSCALE PDA's. Should support more Xscale PDA's than before including hp iPAQ 6925, HTC Advantage X7500 and many others that couldn't work before.
Automatic override of built-in autoscaling that's in newer PDA's. Allows for better overclocking.
Better stability.
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Pocket Hack Master 4.11.029
Summary: Pocket PC Magazine Best Software 2006 Finalist! Managed CPU scaling approach based on CPU load! Supports Intel® XScale™ and Bulverde™, Samsung® S3C24xx™ and Texas Instruments® OMAP™ processors.
Requirements: Any XScale (PXA21x, PXA25x or PXA26x), Bulverde (PXA27x), Samsung S3C (S3C2410, S3C2410A, S3C2440, S3C2440A or S3C2442) or TI OMAP processor, PPC2002, WM2003/WM2003SE or WM5 device.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7258
radonsg said:
Pocket Hack Master 4.11.029
Summary: Pocket PC Magazine Best Software 2006 Finalist! Managed CPU scaling approach based on CPU load! Supports Intel® XScale™ and Bulverde™, Samsung® S3C24xx™ and Texas Instruments® OMAP™ processors.
Requirements: Any XScale (PXA21x, PXA25x or PXA26x), Bulverde (PXA27x), Samsung S3C (S3C2410, S3C2410A, S3C2440, S3C2440A or S3C2442) or TI OMAP processor, PPC2002, WM2003/WM2003SE or WM5 device.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7258
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Seems to work for me under WM6 as well!!
hb88xx said:
Seems to work for me under WM6 as well!!
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Any way to remove the icon on the bottom of the Today screen?
hb88xx said:
Seems to work for me under WM6 as well!!
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it looks good, i'll try it
hb88xx said:
Seems to work for me under WM6 as well!!
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What speed are you running at now on your 750 once you've overclocked it? Does it affect the battery life?
...and are you truly getting any significant performance benefit for the (I assume reduced) battery life trade off?
Does ths program work on treo 750..? Everyone as reported that it does but when I go to purchase it it says not supported for treo 750...?
Hi
I wanted to know what is the most stable CPU on a Pocet PC right now and why, what makes a processor better than the next ? are Intel processors better than samsung, TI, Freescale ??
what are the categories of all these processors ?
and on a pricing level which processors are value for money ?
which are expensive for something and which are expensive for nothing ?
this has been working on my mind for some time to analyse all the processors and identify the truth behind Pocket PC CPU's
can anyone please help to answer these questions.
regards
reo
The differences are very small, unlike with, say, 486 or Pentium clones 10-12 years ago. That is, there aren't known problems with Samsung / TI CPU's and there aren't "clearly the best" CPU's.
hi
what do you think about Freescale CPU ?
and when it comes to CPU, do you think that mayb certain types are more stable than others ?
Stability = litlle or no freezing up, compatibilty, works well with WM OS, aplications funtioanlity, and just general operation you no that sense that you can rely on the product to function properly.
reo
reo said:
hi
what do you think about Freescale CPU ?
and when it comes to CPU, do you think that mayb certain types are more stable than others ?
Stability = litlle or no freezing up, compatibilty, works well with WM OS, aplications funtioanlity, and just general operation you no that sense that you can rely on the product to function properly.
reo
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Dunno much about the practical stability & compatibility issues of the new Freescale CPU, it's so new to the market (and iDo devices are so few).
In general, I don't think any current (again, I don't speak for Freescale) CPU's have any stability or other issues. Samsung CPU's, in the past (see for example the flash ROM problems of the iPAQ 1930 / 1940) had some problems; hope they're fixed now.
hi
is there any way to benchmark the CPU's ? is there any software that i can use. i would like to conduct a test to make a comparison.
about the freescale, any reviews about this CPU ?
regards
reo
reo said:
hi
is there any way to benchmark the CPU's ? is there any software that i can use. i would like to conduct a test to make a comparison.
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Spb Benchmark, for example. However, benchmark results are pretty useless. For example, the 195 MHz TI CPU's are MUCH better than what one would think based on the benchmark results
about the freescale, any reviews about this CPU ?
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Googled around; haven't found much.
I will keep searching for more details on freescale.
Do you think there is mayb factory benchmark programs then we can mayb get accurate results ?
reo
reo said:
I will keep searching for more details on freescale.
Do you think there is mayb factory benchmark programs then we can mayb get accurate results ?
reo
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In general, I wouldn't depend on benchmark results. For example, the TI CPU-based devices are far faster than one would think based on the benchmark results.
I have read about Processors from Intel called Monahans, i believe it is the latest CPU.
Have you worked with a handheld device running this CPU ?
could you give us some info on the Manahans and Boulverde ?
try this one.... I got it from buzz website....
Generally, TI and Samsung processors usually are more performant than Intel with the same MHz rate (iirc about 20%).
However, processor performance is not everything. E.g. the memory access is very different on WM5 devices. Or graphic performance.
And don't forget many PPC applications are quite spartanic - you don't need lots of CPU power to add a new contact or write a document in that better notepad called "Word mobile". Memory (card) access is more interesting there. But you'll probably notice a difference e.g. in navigation, games, or multimedia.
This is a question that maybe a lot of members have.
As we known OMAP850 has 2 cores 200 Mhz for GSM and 200 Mhz for WM App
And that is great ... But what happend with INTEL Processors?
I was looking info on the web about PXA27X and how manage the Mhz when WM have app running and have a incoming call.
Example. If a INTEL PXA27X has 400 Mhz how much Mhz will gone in GSM.
Or INTEL PXA27X has another core for GSM? Like OMAP850?
Or when has a incomming call the 400Mhz goes to 300Mhz or less ?
I got a TEK S200 and I ask this because I wanna buy another PDA, maybe HTC, ETEN or HP and i have this doubt.
gzprophet said:
This is a question that maybe a lot of members have.
As we known OMAP850 has 2 cores 200 Mhz for GSM and 200 Mhz for WM App
And that is great ... But what happend with INTEL Processors?
I was looking info on the web about PXA27X and how manage the Mhz when WM have app running and have a incoming call.
Example. If a INTEL PXA27X has 400 Mhz how much Mhz will gone in GSM.
Or INTEL PXA27X has another core for GSM? Like OMAP850?
Or when has a incomming call the 400Mhz goes to 300Mhz or less ?
I got a TEK S200 and I ask this because I wanna buy another PDA, maybe HTC, ETEN or HP and i have this doubt.
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I'm not really sure what you mean - do you mean if the CPU has enough computation power to execute other tasks while the GSM is active?
If you have followed my articles (most importantly, the ones concerning recording phone calls), you already know the answer: yes, the CPU has the power to execute almost anything else. I haven't made exact CPU usage benchmarks (with acbTaskMan), but I don't think the CPU usage of the GSM module is higher than, say, 20% on a 416 MHz XScale.
it all depends on yr usage. and what u do with yr pda phone.
omap is good for battery life, if u just do appointment & task, simple mp3 leisure yes its for u (dun think abt video)
samsung chip, for 3g, good for almost all but cant support better playback for dvd quality example MOV files on tcpmp
intel chip, 416mhz is good for everything, skype, youtube, mov dvd quality video play back. but battery life sucks...
as HTC use more of TI OMAP on non 3g or SAMSUNG chip for 3g device.
while O2 Asia use INTEL chip for all the devices but have customize the chip so that u can choose between PERFORMANCE or BATTERY LIFE. appears in XDA IIi (htc/ppc2003), STEALTH (gigabyte/wm5), Zinc (asus/wm5/6), Atom Life (quanta/wm5/6), Flame (arima/wm5). so far only o2/asus/gigabyte have such feature for their pda phone.
so if you like multifunction/tasking(skype/msn/wifi/internet radio/surfing). get a good device, like ATOM LIFE
oh one more, XDA 1 is using INTEL 150mhz if i recall haha
so if u like intel so much & u want that speed, find wallaby haha
Tabbe said:
samsung chip, for 3g, good for almost all but cant support better playback for dvd quality example MOV files on tcpmp
intel chip, 416mhz is good for everything, skype, youtube, mov dvd quality video play back. but battery life sucks...
as HTC use more of TI OMAP on non 3g or SAMSUNG chip for 3g device.
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Also add the new Qualcomm MSM7200 chipset. It seems hardware manufacturers are switching to it and ditch at least the not very multimedia-friendly Samsung. (I bet something similar will alos happen to XScale, unless they manage to radically reduce their power consumption.)
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oh one more, XDA 1 is using INTEL 150mhz if i recall haha
so if u like intel so much & u want that speed, find wallaby haha
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f-ing idiots should just keep their mouths shut. It's 208MHz, you moron. And the guy is asking about processor division of resources, not saying he wants Intel. GOT THAT? or do you need further translation?
raymondu999: I'm gonna ask you to control yourself next time. Such attitude will not be tolerated here. Thank you.
"while O2 Asia use INTEL chip for all the devices "
o2 is a phone company they dont make phones the oem phones from other companys
afaik the omap850 is not a real dual-core cpu, because both cores are not the same. one is used for normal apps and the OS and a simpler one takes care of the GSM part.
So... OMAP850 is a Simple Processor for GSM + 200 Mhz Processor for apps
Then my doubt is how Intel manage this, if a device has a spec of processor 416mhz , this 416mhz are for GSM and Apps.
I read in some posts that Intel processors has troubles to manage GSM-APPS-WIFI etc.
intel dont magede gsm and wifi
it's handled by 3th party chips i believe
it would simply see them as IO devices
HI guys,
I'm the owner of HTC clone T3238 and I'm wondering about few things:
1. which graphic card (hardware) is inside?
2. did anybody succeed to install touchflo 3d?
3. currently, i'm running spbmobile shell 3.5 but 3d carousel is not working most probably due to a missing opengl driver. Therefore is there any opengl driver for such phone?
Thanks,
...MpegTv....
it's wiki page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elf
1. non everything is software rendering and the cpu only being a omap 200Mhz not much speed
3. no
I'm sorry but you're not right.
This phone HTC clone T3238 has CPU:Marvell Pxa310 on 624MHZ, 256MB Flash Rom+128MB Ram, wifi, gps...... It's a copy of HTC JADE 100
That's completly different phone from the link that you've posted.
it looks the same as in this link http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1479&c=htc_touch_3g_htc_jade_100 and the only difference is better CPU on 624 MHz.
Anybody knows what kind of vga card is inside?
....MpegTV....
my bad
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351986&page=45
this thread is about if Qualcomm MSM7225 cpu it use is with ati imidon or not
t4242+ open gl?
MpegTv said:
I'm sorry but you're not right.
This phone HTC clone T3238 has CPU:Marvell Pxa310 on 624MHZ, 256MB Flash Rom+128MB Ram, wifi, gps...... It's a copy of HTC JADE 100
That's completly different phone from the link that you've posted.
it looks the same as in this link and the only difference is better CPU on 624 MHz.
Anybody knows what kind of vga card is inside?
....MpegTV....
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Hi, did anyone solve this isue?
I have a t4242+ and i want to know if it has hardware support for opengl..
Thanks a lot!
I am getting it cheap so I am thinking to get it. Perhaps it is quit old now but still not bad to have. I wanna know is this set good to have, does it has any known issue/problem (either hardware or software).
I also want to ask few questions.
1. I am confused what does it mean by Dual ARM 9 220 MHz processor. does it has 2 processors if so then how exactly they work together?
2. What kind of official/unofficial updates I can apply to it? Stock is Symbian OS 9.1, Series 60 v3.0 UI
3. Does the processor support any graphics acceleration e.g ATI Imageon?
4. How is the experience with watching movies?
5. Does it support Office 2007 extension?
6. Does it has Push Email client?
Any other important information will be welcomed too.
As we dedicate mostly to HTC WM/Android devices you won´t get too much attention.
Better to try on one of this forums:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=es&...&cd=2&ved=0CAkQvwUoAQ&&q=nokia+forums&spell=1
Good luck,
alright I'll gve it a go.