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fuze screen (damage?), at&t warranty (crap?)

I searched the forums and google and couldn't find an image similar to what is happening to my fuze.
So yesterday I noticed a problem with my fuze screen, and i don't know if i can't explain the problem or what, but at&t is convinced it's damaged and will charge me a bunch if i even try to send it in.
There are no cracks, scratches, whatever. (I wish i could take a pic, but the only cam i have is the phone)
The problem is that the surface of the screen (I think the soft touch screen top) seems to have a thin layer of 'something' in there. It is the same shape as the screen, centered, and about 70% of the screen's size. The effect is something like the shimmer/rainbow from a very thin layer of oil on water. (thin film interference?) Anyways, the touch screen still works, the lcd still works, the glass isn't cracked, and I have no idea what happened. I use a screen protector and am very protective of my baby.
I'm thinking I need to order a new digitizer and replace that? ($25 and some labor doesn't sound bad after talking to AT&T about what i would get charged if they decide it's physical damage)
I dunno, if anyone has experience with damage like this or at&t or replacing digitizers and has any words to help me, either with explaining what happened or what i should do, that would be much appreciated.

I had the EXACT same problem on my fuze. It looked like the layers of the screen began to seperate. AT&T scared me that they would charge me for this so I sent it directly to HTC and they replaced the screen at no cost to me...took about 2 weeks.

AT&T Warranty agents are trained to be cautious in regards to damage to devices as the mail program doesn't leave much(any) option once you send the phone back for the exchange. It's either no-damage/no-charge or damage/charged, after which you cannot go back on the exchange.
My advice is to see if there is a Device Support Center in your area.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB91429
I went to one with my possibly damaged Fuze and they took a look at it and exchanged it without any "possible" charges jargon.
If that isn't an option, you could buy a pre-paid phone to use while you send it in to HTC as TheSopranos16 did for repair.
Good luck!

Sir, the problem you have is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439410
I only hope my xperia doesn't get it.

i have this same exact problem. its technically called a newton ring. att wanted $500 to fix it and the htc rep told me that whenever they encounter this they usualy dont cover under warenty because it is due to pressure on the screen and it would cost something like $300 to fix. so i basically said forget it and now im stuck with it.

Water or some kind of spot behind the screen

Hey guys. My TP seems to have a streak that looks like water/oil behind the screen. This phone is only a couple of months old and I've taken good care of it. It hasn't been anywhere near water (the water damage indicator is intact).
I read somewhere that this isn't water, but that when the LCD and the touch overlay make contact, it can produce this spot.
My concern is that this phone is being warrantied next week. My friend was kind enough to push it through for me, but he warned that when they get my current phone back after they mail me the replacement, they'll notice that mark. After that, they might void my warranty and charge me full retail for the phone ($550, after I already paid $350 for this one).
He suggested that I CAREFULLY take the phone apart and clean that mark up before I send it back (he thinks it's a water spot, but he's not sure). I can do that and try my best to avoid voiding the warranty (stickers, etc). However, I figured I'd ask here first and see what other suggestions I can get on how best to clean this mess up.
Any suggestions?

It's probably a Newton Ring. Don't put the phone in your pocket. It's usually caused by pressure on the digitizer.
The digitizer is basically two transparent conductive sheets squishing a gel between them. When you touch with the stylus, it dimples one sheet so they touch. Constant pressure over a large area will cause the gel to become nonuniform in thickness and you get the oily looking mark.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475294
-I had this happen on a PDA I had once and I think it went away, or maybe I massaged the digitizer a little and it made it better, I don't remember. But it did get better.

Oh excellent, thanks for your reply man That thread was informative. Yeah, that's what I thought it was too, but I wasn't sure, still pretty new to this. Do you think VZW/HTC will void the mfg warranty over it (like they would over water damage)?
What I'm basically getting at is, should I go through the effort of trying to get rid of the spot so they won't kick up a fuss, or will they cover it no problems?

If you open your handset you will definetly void your warranty
HTC are aware of this 'Newton Ring' issue with the touch pro device.
As such, do not do anything to your handset, simply return it under the warranty and get yourself a replacement, if they kick up a fuss, deny payment and get them to verify you caused the fault.

duke_stix said:
If you open your handset you will definetly void your warranty
HTC are aware of this 'Newton Ring' issue with the touch pro device.
As such, do not do anything to your handset, simply return it under the warranty and get yourself a replacement, if they kick up a fuss, deny payment and get them to verify you caused the fault.
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Yeah, I'm not going to open it I was contemplating it, but it seems like the warranty should cover this "problem." I just hope Verizon doesn't kick up a fuss about it. If they do, I'll follow your advice and get them to verify that I caused the fault.
Thanks for the feedback

[Q] InvisibleShield water under screen

Hi,
please can you help me ?
About a month ago I wanted to install IS on my brand new HTC Sensation XE.
After 3-4 days in rice it dried up, but there are some stains ( visible only on white background ) on my screen. It looks like this but smaller
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I think that the screen is absolutely DRY I did it month ago and dried it with rice.
BETTER:
youtube.com/watch?v=MvUB-ISEDII&feature=youtu.be&hd=1
Thanks and sorry for bad LINKS cant post URL

Help you do what?
The only way to remove the stain is to replace it!
The warranty is void now, do you have insurance they might resolve it for you.
If it was mine and visible only on a white screen, I'd learn to live with it as the repair, if paid for will not be cheap
there may be other issues over the horizon depending on how wet the phone was
no indication in your post and Im not going to watch the video

Warranty void ? Why ?! Phone was off for recommended time and screenprotector installed properly like thay write in manual.

Since it isn't a hardware defect it probably won't be covered under warranty.

Do you think that they can find marks after water under screen so they will say its my fault ?
I have screen insurance maybe will be better crack it with something and send it to repair for free

Nemesis94 said:
Do you think that they can find marks after water under screen so they will say its my fault ?
I have screen insurance maybe will be better crack it with something and send it to repair for free
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It depends whether they bother to look or not. Some companies seem to check better than others.
That could be an option though, but have a look for other people's experiences who've sent their phone in to the company for repair if you can.

Follow Up from LG Repair

Just wanted to follow up regarding my cracked screen from the drop from my pocket to the linoleum laundry room floor. Phone was sent in to LG for diagnosis and they showed great service by quickly responding back (4 days from sending the phone from Idaho to Texas). Unfortunately I don't think they did too much analysis as their diagnosis was a canned response that said "the malfunction was caused by physical damage or water/liquid damage which is not covered under warranty."
It wasn't a malfunction. I dropped it from pocket level and the screen splintered. From all of the advertising and 3rd party drop test videos I've seen, when properly built the phone withstands WAY more than one 3 foot drop. But whatever. I acknowledge it was my butterfingers that made the drop.
At any rate, my dilemma is do I pay the $146/$153 for the repair/repair and refurbish charge or do I DIY with the digitizer I ordered from a 3rd party? I know going forward that unfortunately this will be the last LG I own. With so many other options from Moto, Samsung, Sony, Huawei, etc companies need to own their advertising if they want my cheddar.
Anyone have any experience with aftermarket parts? I don't want to have a mutt phone that has functionality issues.

helichrysum said:
Just wanted to follow up regarding my cracked screen from the drop from my pocket to the linoleum laundry room floor. Phone was sent in to LG for diagnosis and they showed great service by quickly responding back (4 days from sending the phone from Idaho to Texas). Unfortunately I don't think they did too much analysis as their diagnosis was a canned response that said "the malfunction was caused by physical damage or water/liquid damage which is not covered under warranty."
It wasn't a malfunction. I dropped it from pocket level and the screen splintered. From all of the advertising and 3rd party drop test videos I've seen, when properly built the phone withstands WAY more than one 3 foot drop. But whatever. I acknowledge it was my butterfingers that made the drop.
At any rate, my dilemma is do I pay the $146/$153 for the repair/repair and refurbish charge or do I DIY with the digitizer I ordered from a 3rd party? I know going forward that unfortunately this will be the last LG I own. With so many other options from Moto, Samsung, Sony, Huawei, etc companies need to own their advertising if they want my cheddar.
Anyone have any experience with aftermarket parts? I don't want to have a mutt phone that has functionality issues.
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Just wanted to say that, Samsung, and Motorola are the same way. Prior to buying this phone, my nexus6 was lying, in an Otterbox, with a tempered glass screen protector, on my truck console. I called my wife on my way home, screen was fine, set it down, drove about four miles, picked it up when I got home and the screen was split with one crack, from the top left to the bottom right corner... Nothing touched it the whole way home, and with the Otterbox, the screen doesn't touch the padded console lid anyway. Needless to say, t-mobile's insurance company, Assurant, is worthless... 12 dollars a month for insurance, and 175 to have it fixed. Called Motorola, they'll fix it for the exact same price...? So needless to say, bought my v10 so I have a phone till I fix the nex myself, dropped all the insurance, on all my plans, (4 lines $48 less a month) and covered them for $20 a month on square trade, with a he'll of a lot cheaper deductible. Sorry for the long winded response, but until a manufacturer can guarantee screens won't break (new moto?) all companies will treat you like this...

ZDeuce2 said:
Just wanted to say that, Samsung, and Motorola are the same way. Prior to buying this phone, my nexus6 was lying, in an Otterbox, with a tempered glass screen protector, on my truck console. I called my wife on my way home, screen was fine, set it down, drove about four miles, picked it up when I got home and the screen was split with one crack, from the top left to the bottom right corner... Nothing touched it the whole way home, and with the Otterbox, the screen doesn't touch the padded console lid anyway. Needless to say, t-mobile's insurance company, Assurant, is worthless... 12 dollars a month for insurance, and 175 to have it fixed. Called Motorola, they'll fix it for the exact same price...? So needless to say, bought my v10 so I have a phone till I fix the nex myself, dropped all the insurance, on all my plans, (4 lines $48 less a month) and covered them for $20 a month on square trade, with a he'll of a lot cheaper deductible. Sorry for the long winded response, but until a manufacturer can guarantee screens won't break (new moto?) all companies will treat you like this...
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That's insane. See as business owner, I completely get and understand company policies. But I also understand that inevitably there are exceptions to the policies. Like when you drive home with your phone in an otter box in your console only to find the screen cracked. Or when you have a "military grade drop test" phone that falls 3 feet and splinters the screen like in my case. Clearly my device wasn't built with the same standards or tolerances as those shown in all the drop test videos, so as an exception, step up and fix the device. When we make 250 sandwiches and one person calls in and data the bread was a little dry, I'm refunding him and buying his next meal no questions asked. I don't care if nobody else complained about the bread, you take care of the exception.
I get that mobile devices aren't sandwiches, but the principle holds true. But I guess if every company is doing the same thing, nobody needs to step up.

helichrysum said:
That's insane. See as business owner, I completely get and understand company policies. But I also understand that inevitably there are exceptions to the policies. Like when you drive home with your phone in an otter box in your console only to find the screen cracked. Or when you have a "military grade drop test" phone that falls 3 feet and splinters the screen like in my case. Clearly my device wasn't built with the same standards or tolerances as those shown in all the drop test videos, so as an exception, step up and fix the device. When we make 250 sandwiches and one person calls in and data the bread was a little dry, I'm refunding him and buying his next meal no questions asked. I don't care if nobody else complained about the bread, you take care of the exception.
I get that mobile devices aren't sandwiches, but the principle holds true. But I guess if every company is doing the same thing, nobody needs to step up.
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I think the problem is that there's no way to prove that he dropped that phone only from a couple of feet or that he had a heavy duty case on it.
If companies were replacing screens under warranty every time someone broke their, they'd be out of business.
I had bought a warranty for 70 bucks through Sony for my z3 phone and had it replaced when the screen cracked. Wish LG offered a similar warranty for this phone.
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MO3iusONE said:
I think the problem is that there's no way to prove that he dropped that phone only from a couple of feet or that he had a heavy duty case on it.
If companies were replacing screens under warranty every time someone broke their, they'd be out of business.
I had bought a warranty for 70 bucks through Sony for my z3 phone and had it replaced when the screen cracked. Wish LG offered a similar warranty for this phone.
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I agree entirely with your premise, despite the fact that I believe that most people are honest and don't try and unnecessarily hose companies. However, in my case, what's the point in them "examining" the device to determine if it's a defect or was caused by me if they really don't even look? My V10 was less than a week old and didn't have even the slightest nick or flaw anywhere on the phone or around the edges. I feel like if they truly inspected it they could actually be able to determine if it was caused by the actual drop, excessive dropping, OR a build quality/construction problem. Given that mine looks brand new apart from the splintered screen maybe they conclude that it's a build issue. Maybe someone else sends in theirs and there are scratches, dings, and nicks around the outside and they conclude that the phone was probably dropped multiple times. Am I making sense?

Yeah, in the past just did a monthly warranty extension with Verizon. When my wife and I upgraded I looked at what was offered and reviews for Assurance. I got her Apple Care+ for her iPhone, and went Square Trade for my V10.

And that's why LG has fine print while they make their durability claims.

This is why I use tempered glass screen protectors, I'd rather break the screen protector than damage the glass on the phone a $10-20 expense vs $150-$300 depending on the route you take to fix the phone glass. I've replaced the damaged glass smartphones in most cases the glass is attached with UV loca to the screen and if you can manage to separate the glass from the screen without damaging it you can pay only about $25 for new glass off of ebay, but I assure you it is not an EASY thing to do for a novice. Keep in mind if you pay the $8-9 a month for the phone insurance you are basically wasting $192-$216 over two years if you don't use it. [/rant ]
Your best bet is to replace the part yourself. You can buy what you need off of Ebay. If you've never replaced the screen with the digitizer before You NEED to watch videos on youtube and read anything on ifixit for the tools you might need to buy to disassemble the phone. You are lucky right now prices start at $83 and go up, but make sure you buy the correct model for YOUR phone screen with digitizer can be different between phone model from different carriers.. And if you are uncomfortable doing this yourself buy the part and try to find a local shop(usually a third party cell phone shop) that will do the work for you. Here's an ebay link
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Cell-Phone-....html?_from=R40&_nkw=lg+v10+digitizer&_sop=15

LBJM said:
This is why I use tempered glass screen protectors, I'd rather break the screen protector than damage the glass on the phone a $10-20 expense vs $150-$300 depending on the route you take to fix the phone glass. I've replaced the damaged glass smartphones in most cases the glass is attached with UV loca to the screen and if you can manage to separate the glass from the screen without damaging it you can pay only about $25 for new glass off of ebay, but I assure you it is not an EASY thing to do for a novice. Keep in mind if you pay the $8-9 a month for the phone insurance you are basically wasting $192-$216 over two years if you don't use it. [/rant ]
Your best bet is to replace the part yourself. You can buy what you need off of Ebay. If you've never replaced the screen with the digitizer before You NEED to watch videos on youtube and read anything on ifixit for the tools you might need to buy to disassemble the phone. You are lucky right now prices start at $83 and go up, but make sure you buy the correct model for YOUR phone screen with digitizer can be different between phone model from different carriers.. And if you are uncomfortable doing this yourself buy the part and try to find a local shop(usually a third party cell phone shop) that will do the work for you. Here's an ebay link
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I purchased the digitizer but in the end I had LG do the repair because they would warranty it. I didn't want to risk dorking up a $650 device. I probably should have tried as it would be nice to have that skill. Maybe I'll drop the phone next week and then I'll get to do it ha ha. Definitely going to throw a screen protector on...especially given that I'm convinced mine was poorly assembled in the first place causing it to shatter after one small drop.
Thanks for the responses everyone.

Cracked screen

I have had the phone for a little over a month and dropped it face down on tile. It has a small crack at the bottom left corner. I now have a screen protector on it, so the crack is barely visible...however, will this make the phone more fragile? Should I pay Samsung to fix it?

rachaelslp said:
I have had the phone for a little over a month and dropped it face down on tile. It has a small crack at the bottom left corner. I now have a screen protector on it, so the crack is barely visible...however, will this make the phone more fragile? Should I pay Samsung to fix it?
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i wouldn't worry about it being more fragile as you said you dropped it once its cracked regardless if you drop your phone its got a chance to smash into 50 pieces, down to luck i suppose
As long as you don't drop it again it will be fine (and even if you do chance it will be okay), its corning gorilla glass 5 its pretty strong stuff.
if you are super worried invest in a nice protective case for yourself to use while your juggling with it

I wouldn't get it wet with a crack on it.

cracked screen
Your phone might only have the digitizer cracked and if you continue to use it like you might crack the actual lcd part as well which is a lot more expensive than just the digitizer. I would get it fixed at a local repair shop. Samsung charges way to much for that. It would be cheaper to get a phone on ebay for that price

fastbatterycharger said:
Your phone might only have the digitizer cracked and if you continue to use it like you might crack the actual lcd part as well which is a lot more expensive than just the digitizer. I would get it fixed at a local repair shop. Samsung charges way to much for that. It would be cheaper to get a phone on ebay for that price
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I'm actually sending mine to Samsung for them to fix a cracked screen. 70$ including tax and shipping, if that's to much then I want to know where your getting yours fixed!
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thats cheap
i got mine fixed @ samsung singapore.
just a minor screen crack at the top corner.
set me back 220usd

Thats a good price n ive heard similar. Be mindful, getting phone repaired by ne 3rd party voids warranty. Might be cheaper but also nit water proof ne more when going 3rd party.