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Dumb question, just can't find an answer...

Sorry for the dumbness of the question, but do I have to sim-unlock my Kaiser (Orange) before flashing with a new radio/rom (Dutty's Hybrid 29/4). I've heard of unlockers just patching your current radio, so does flashing with a new radio automatically unlock the phone anyway?
One more thing - does this Dutty's rom (I'm going for the non-cube 1.65.14.06) also flash the radio, or is it just the rom? It says +(radio) on the posts, but I just want to be sure...
Cheers
Chris

Sim unlock, no. There is something called CID unlock which you must do in order to flash. You CID unlock by flashing HardSPL. Look it up. Sim unlock will let you use your device on any carrier.
The sim unlock works by patching a special radio (which is actually non functional as a radio, but it helps reveal the sim unlock code) and running a special program on the device and a computer. When you are done you have to flash back your original radio.
Flashing a new radio does not automatically unlock your phone.
Some of Dutty's roms come with a radio, some do not. If they say rom+radio they do. If they say rom only well, its rom only. You have to read each cooks individual FAQ/
thread to know what you are flashing.

i read somewhere that sometimes when you flash with simlock it is possible that it stops accepting any simcards.
so when i first flashed i also simunlocked.
but maybe im wrong and you dont have to do this.

i am sim, supercid, and security unlocked and haven't had any problems with my phone read the wiki it will help you understand everything

Yes you have to sim unlock your orange branded tytnII before flashing, search around xda there are a few free ways of doing this...

Can I flash Radio without running HSPL

Hi,
I have problem in locking GPS after upgrading to WM6.1 from HTC. I stay in Singapore.
I read many threads and understand GPS locking problem could be due to Radio version and also different Radio version for different countries.... I'm confused and have no confident in proceed further as I also read a lot of problem in flashing ROM. Wonder is it possible to flash ROM without running HSPL? any other solution for GPS locking instead of Radio issue?
The current status of my TyTnII shown in Device Information as follow:-
ROM Version: 3.29.707.o WWE
ROM date: 05/07/08
Radio version : 1.65.16.25
Any expert advice please..

Additional information: I stay in Singapore.

Ok, to flash anything to youre device, you will need to install HardSPL, this will then allow you to flash a new radio to youre device. Radios can be found Here
Following this you will need to flash youre old SPL to youre device. These can be found Here
Sam

You must Hard SPL to Flash anything (except ROM's released by your carrier).
Read this wiki page and follow the steps: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
This will guide you through unlocking your phone so your can flash it.
Thanks
Dave

ahchek said:
Hi,
I have problem in locking GPS after upgrading to WM6.1 from HTC. I stay in Singapore.
I read many threads and understand GPS locking problem could be due to Radio version and also different Radio version for different countries.... I'm confused and have no confident in proceed further as I also read a lot of problem in flashing ROM. Wonder is it possible to flash ROM without running HSPL? any other solution for GPS locking instead of Radio issue?
The current status of my TyTnII shown in Device Information as follow:-
ROM Version: 3.29.707.o WWE
ROM date: 05/07/08
Radio version : 1.65.16.25
Any expert advice please..
Additional information: I stay in Singapore.
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Oi ahchek! Where you stay and which carrier? m1 or starhub? hehe kakilang
DaveShaw said:
You must Hard SPL to Flash anything (except ROM's released by your carrier).
Read this wiki page and follow the steps: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
This will guide you through unlocking your phone so your can flash it.
Thanks
Dave
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I thought you don't need to have hardSPL to flash radio since all the radios are official releases? Besides all Singapore cellphones are unlocked.
Can some experts confirm this?
If it's alright to flash then I'll recommend KAIS_RADIO_ONLY_1.71.09.01
The GPS locks under 10 secs. Fastest I lock I got was about 2.5 secs
Reception is also very good

pro838user said:
Oi ahchek! Where you stay and which carrier? m1 or starhub? hehe kakilang
I thought you don't need to have hardSPL to flash radio since all the radios are official releases? Besides all Singapore cellphones are unlocked.
Can some experts confirm this?
If it's alright to flash then I'll recommend KAIS_RADIO_ONLY_1.71.09.01
The GPS locks under 10 secs. Fastest I lock I got was about 2.5 secs
Reception is also very good
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alamak, great to hear kakilang.. I stayed in AMK, Starhub
You flashed KAIS_RADIO_ONLY_1.71.09.01?? So, you run HSPL? seems very tedious and also risky..

robinsonsam said:
Ok, to flash anything to youre device, you will need to install HardSPL, this will then allow you to flash a new radio to youre device. Radios can be found Here
Following this you will need to flash youre old SPL to youre device. These can be found Here
Sam
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I need some clarification as well - I have HSPL 3.29 and have Hyperdragon ROM - So let's say I want to flash a different ROM - I don't need to flash HSPL again do I? I can just upgrade to a different ROM?
Many thanks

spuri78 said:
I need some clarification as well - I have HSPL 3.29 and have Hyperdragon ROM - So let's say I want to flash a different ROM - I don't need to flash HSPL again do I? I can just upgrade to a different ROM?
Many thanks
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Once you have Hard Spl its permanent. Just flash another ROM.
Dave

DaveShaw said:
Once you have Hard Spl its permanent. Just flash another ROM.
Dave
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thanks Dave - That's what I wanted to know

ahchek said:
alamak, great to hear kakilang.. I stayed in AMK, Starhub
You flashed KAIS_RADIO_ONLY_1.71.09.01?? So, you run HSPL? seems very tedious and also risky..
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No. I mod everything lah.
But if you have the need to send in for repair within the warranty period can still flash back to the official one and return it. Flashing it back to the official rom is the easiest part cos only need 1 file and run once

DaveShaw said:
Once you have Hard Spl its permanent. Just flash another ROM.
Dave
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Hi Dave, sorry I'm blur block.. Is my HTC's ROM (ROM Version: 3.29.707.o WWE) is what you called HSPL 3.29?? As what pro383 was asking, phone is singapore are unlocked, do I still have to "HSPL" ?? Appreciate your advice on my specific situation.
thanks.

pro838user said:
No. I mod everything lah.
But if you have the need to send in for repair within the warranty period can still flash back to the official one and return it. Flashing it back to the official rom is the easiest part cos only need 1 file and run once
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Bro,
I'm green la, no experiences, since we are kakilang, need your advice:-
a) Do you have battery sucking problem?
b) You run HSPL, you got white screen or tri-color problem? did you run JumpSPL?
c) You use HSPL3.29? Tried HSPL3.56?
d) Flash back to official rom is by only one file? which is it?
Sorry to ask so many question. Surely you can answer la. Wait for it
Thanks.

ahchek said:
Bro,
I'm green la, no experiences, since we are kakilang, need your advice:-
a) Do you have battery sucking problem?
b) You run HSPL, you got white screen or tri-color problem? did you run JumpSPL?
c) You use HSPL3.29? Tried HSPL3.56?
d) Flash back to official rom is by only one file? which is it?
Sorry to ask so many question. Surely you can answer la. Wait for it
Thanks.
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I try haha
a) nope..never had that problem.
b) I didn't have that problem. You'll need to run JumpSPL first that flash with hard SPL
c) I use HSPL3.56 and it works fine.
d) This file
http://210.64.124.194/download/TyTN%20II_SEA_WM6.1_Upgrade_20080602.zip
This page with all the official roms listed here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Singapore ones use the SEA versions listed in the Country column
but before flashing need to follow the instructions first. Though I'll suggets you send in your phone to check for problems first before you flash jsut in case haha

I don't understand where people get the idea that an unlocked phone will allow you to flash any ROM or radio to your phone... An unlocked phone is only "carrier unlocked". This means you can switch your sim card for another companies' sim card and use their service. You will still have to mod your phone to change the software (ie. HardSPL). This does not matter where you may live. Places like Europe have laws in most areas that restrict companies from selling carrier locked phones but not phones with locked software. I hate that here in North America we have carrier locked phones. If I bought a phone for $600 or more and decided to switch carriers, I would be forced to change phones and toss my old phone. It is different if you were to switch from TDMA/CDMA to GSM as not all phones can connect to both systems, but staying on the same system we still get kicked in "the junk" and are forced to buy a new contract and phone. That is why I hate locked phones.

is it necessary to remove security from the device?

Hi all
I have an unbranded HTC Touch pro and i was wondering if it was necessary for me to remove the CID lock and remove security from the phone?
i will be flashing custom roms from the rom development sub-forum, but i will not be flashing radio roms, these will only be flashed if htc choose to release an official one
what are the advantages to removing security and cid lock?
many thanks

duke_stix said:
Hi all
I have an unbranded HTC Touch pro and i was wondering if it was necessary for me to remove the CID lock and remove security from the phone?
i will be flashing custom roms from the rom development sub-forum, but i will not be flashing radio roms, these will only be flashed if htc choose to release an official one
what are the advantages to removing security and cid lock?
many thanks
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I, as well as most people would HIGHLY advise doing so. Even if you don't intend flashing a radio.
As for the advantages.... Look into the "radio from hell" in the kaiser section. If this ever happened to us here those who are cid unlocked will be greatful. Besides, its easy to do and so worth it.

but what would happen if i wanted to send the device back to HTC for repair?
that is the only thing that is stopping me from clicking update!

duke_stix said:
but what would happen if i wanted to send the device back to HTC for repair?
that is the only thing that is stopping me from clicking update!
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You can re-lock the device and flash back to original spl, cid, and rom.

anyone got a guide for this?

Rom Flashing Question

Hey Everyone-
This post has probably already been answered but i have been searching the forums (and google) and getting mixed results.
I looking to flash the ROM on my HTC Touch Pro (Fuze). However, I've read that my phone must be unlocked to flash a new radio, but not a new ROM. However I've also read that with a new ROM comes a new Radio. So which is it? Do i need to unlock my phone to flash a new ROM because if not i will have a phone w/o a Radio?
Thanks alot, these forums are awesome.

From my understanding, you only need to unlock the phone if you want to use another device's radio. For example, you have a Touch Pro, if you wanted to put a Touch HD radio on it then the phone needs to be unlocked. However, if you want to put another Touch Pro radio on your touch pro you shouldn't need to unlock the phone.
To answer your second question about Roms with or without radios.... They come both ways but I have mostly seen Roms without included radios. Just read the desired Rom info page to find out if it includes a radio or not.

Unlock (HardSPL) is always necessary. No matter if u flash a radio, a rom or a radio/rom.
The only moment when u do not need to unlock is if u flash an official update , radio or rom, that is made from ur provider for ur phone. Or if its unbranded , the update is downloaded from htc itself with ur serial number entered befor.
BTW: Unlock (HardSPL) means that the loader of ur phone accepts NOT signed Roms or radio files for flashing.

Thank you both for the quick replies. So that i have this clear-
I can download and run hardspl according to the instructions etc, etc. Then if i choose to flash a rom without a radio i can. Then (or before) I can flash a Fuze Radio to my phone all without sim unlocking my phone?
Do i have that right?
Thank a million

Fuzer_Guy said:
Thank you both for the quick replies. So that i have this clear-
I can download and run hardspl according to the instructions etc, etc. Then if i choose to flash a rom without a radio i can. Then (or before) I can flash a Fuze Radio to my phone all without sim unlocking my phone?
Do i have that right?
Thank a million
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Not shure if I got u correct in the first post:
By unlock do u mean SIM unlock ? Means use sims from any provider.
By unlock u mean entering the pin number to use ur phone ?
By unlock u mean (what I thought first) enabling the phone to accept any kind of rom ?
Normally a new radio is not always needed, I flash most of the times leaving my radio as it is, if its good in reception and power consumption

2. What are the different types of Unlock? (answer by DaveShaw)
The three stages of unlock are:
SIM: Allows you to use SIM's from another carrier. Can be done using codes or unlocker programs on xda-devs.
Security: Allows you to flash radios from another device (i.e. Raphael) - It does other stuff, but this is all the casual user will use it for
CID: CID unlocking is an old concept, nowadays you flash Hard SPL instead. This lets you flash any ROM, Splash or Radio (depending on sec unlock) to your device. N.B. the CID is the carrier ID (e.g. HTC__001). The stock SPL's only let you flash ROM's that match the CID in the ROM image with the CID on your device.
Also, SuperCID is an even older concept no longer valid on newer devices.
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These are what I understand as the levels of Unlocking... so you're right. I was talking about a security unlock (my apologies). The carrier shouldn't have anything to do with the process. And i don't need special software to security unlock the phone right? (that's where i was getting confused)
As for that last part--
So assuming i like the reception and battery usage i get right now I can flash any ROM i want w/o worrying about losing the radio? And if i do get a ROM with a radio is the radio installed automatically or are there two steps? Thus enabling me to install the ROM without the radio that came with it?
Many Thanks

Fuzer_Guy said:
These are what I understand as the levels of Unlocking... so you're right. I was talking about a security unlock (my apologies). The carrier shouldn't have anything to do with the process. And i don't need special software to security unlock the phone right? (that's where i was getting confused)
As for that last part--
So assuming i like the reception and battery usage i get right now I can flash any ROM i want w/o worrying about losing the radio? And if i do get a ROM with a radio is the radio installed automatically or are there two steps? Thus enabling me to install the ROM without the radio that came with it?
Many Thanks
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Ok, first u have to HardSPL (What does: Ur Phone accepts any radio and/or rom)
From here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
NOTE 3: this is unsigned Hard-SPL. no limitations on flashing ROMs or radio packages. also, this has overwrite protection, if someone needs to revert to stock SPL for warranty reasons, we will soon post a stock SPL downgrade package.
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If u have a touch pro and want to use Diamond or Blackstone radios then u have to do look here, first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426609
Then:
Flash ROM -> ur radio stays the same
Flash Radio -> ur rom stays the same
Flash all in one -> Both are changing, radio and rom.
Look in the roms thread, they tell u if it comes with or without radio. I think most of the times without. The original Raphael rom from HTC is WITH radio btw

Thank you very, very, very much!!!
Im gonna give this a try now.
Once again, many thanks.

Fuzer_Guy said:
Thank you very, very, very much!!!
Im gonna give this a try now.
Once again, many thanks.
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Make sure to thoroughly read through the stickys on flashing a rom........
overall, as mentioned, hardspl first, then falsh rom, hard reset, then flash radio, hard reset, then install rilphone cab and you're good to go....
read read read....

Help please!

My buddy just got a touch pro 2 and i am trying to help him flash a custom rom but i cant seem to figure it out. do i need to unlock it? my diamond was so much easier then this! Could someone please explain the steps i need to take? please!

assuming it is a cdma touch pro 2 you should look through the post named "RhodiumW Hard-SPL Release" in the Touch Pro 2 CDMA forum (where you made this post) for the cdma touch pro 2 unlocking proccess.

yess its a cdma device... So it does need to be unlocked or can i just to the Hardspl thing?

Tyro.Eh said:
yess its a cdma device... So it does need to be unlocked or can i just to the Hardspl thing?
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The Hardspl thing is the unlocker. That is what you use to unlock the phone so you can flash custom ROM's keep in mind, this won't unlock the GSM portion of the phone, so you can't use a different SIM card just by running the Hardspl. But if you follow the instructions in the Hardspl thread that will get the device unlocked then you can flash it to a custom ROM.

ha. you beat me to it, but you did confirm what i was thinking anyway

Aight thx to both of you for helping... I successfully unlocked and flashed a custom rom to the device!

it would be so nice is ppl would just use the "search" instead of having anew thread about the SAME THING OVER AND OVER.