is it necessary to remove security from the device? - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Hi all
I have an unbranded HTC Touch pro and i was wondering if it was necessary for me to remove the CID lock and remove security from the phone?
i will be flashing custom roms from the rom development sub-forum, but i will not be flashing radio roms, these will only be flashed if htc choose to release an official one
what are the advantages to removing security and cid lock?
many thanks

duke_stix said:
Hi all
I have an unbranded HTC Touch pro and i was wondering if it was necessary for me to remove the CID lock and remove security from the phone?
i will be flashing custom roms from the rom development sub-forum, but i will not be flashing radio roms, these will only be flashed if htc choose to release an official one
what are the advantages to removing security and cid lock?
many thanks
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I, as well as most people would HIGHLY advise doing so. Even if you don't intend flashing a radio.
As for the advantages.... Look into the "radio from hell" in the kaiser section. If this ever happened to us here those who are cid unlocked will be greatful. Besides, its easy to do and so worth it.

but what would happen if i wanted to send the device back to HTC for repair?
that is the only thing that is stopping me from clicking update!

duke_stix said:
but what would happen if i wanted to send the device back to HTC for repair?
that is the only thing that is stopping me from clicking update!
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You can re-lock the device and flash back to original spl, cid, and rom.

anyone got a guide for this?

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HTC branded Kaiser and Rom Help

I have a HK Chinese language Kaiser and wish to know that if I want to upgrade to WWE or WWE HK version using the official HTC Roms do i need to do any of the hard_spl or CID unlock or can I just upgrade. Basically looking to make it work in english
Thanks
RedChilliDevil said:
I have a HK Chinese language Kaiser and wish to know that if I want to upgrade to WWE or WWE HK version using the official HTC Roms do i need to do any of the hard_spl or CID unlock or can I just upgrade. Basically looking to make it work in english
Thanks
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Start here:http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading and read. It's all been written down before.
Ta
Dave
thanks for the reply
it seems that i should be able to do as a normal upgrade with no need to worry about CID and having to run hard_spl if its the official HTC one. Does that mean that any region rom will work as long as its from their website?
complete noobie as you can tell!!!
RedChilliDevil said:
it seems that i should be able to do as a normal upgrade with no need to worry about CID and having to run hard_spl if its the official HTC one. Does that mean that any region rom will work as long as its from their website?
complete noobie as you can tell!!!
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If your flashing a HTC Rom onto a HTC branded device, you shouldn't need to worry about HardSPL or CID.
HardSPL is a new bootloader that allows you to flash ROM's with a different CID (Carrier ID). If you are flashing one from the same carrier it shouldn't be a problem.
You should only need to do this if you are flashing a Cooked ROM by one of the Chef's on this site.
I think all the above is right...
Can someone please confirm my understanding of this is correct?
Ta
Dave
I believe you'd get an "Invalid Region" error if you tried to flash a WWE Rom to a Chinese Language device? I could easily be wrong though - I've never tried it...
I'd Hard SPL and CID unlock before flashing any Rom's anyway - Official or otherwise (but that's just me).
sub69 said:
I believe you'd get an "Invalid Region" error if you tried to flash a WWE Rom to a Chinese Language device? I could easily be wrong though - I've never tried it...
I'd Hard SPL and CID unlock before flashing any Rom's anyway - Official or otherwise (but that's just me).
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Now you say that, I would always HardSPL before flashing, just in Case.
I've unlocked everything on my device.
Dave
Thanks for the quick response.
Guess I'll do the hard_spl way.
Thanks again

Can I flash Radio without running HSPL

Hi,
I have problem in locking GPS after upgrading to WM6.1 from HTC. I stay in Singapore.
I read many threads and understand GPS locking problem could be due to Radio version and also different Radio version for different countries.... I'm confused and have no confident in proceed further as I also read a lot of problem in flashing ROM. Wonder is it possible to flash ROM without running HSPL? any other solution for GPS locking instead of Radio issue?
The current status of my TyTnII shown in Device Information as follow:-
ROM Version: 3.29.707.o WWE
ROM date: 05/07/08
Radio version : 1.65.16.25
Any expert advice please..
Additional information: I stay in Singapore.
Ok, to flash anything to youre device, you will need to install HardSPL, this will then allow you to flash a new radio to youre device. Radios can be found Here
Following this you will need to flash youre old SPL to youre device. These can be found Here
Sam
You must Hard SPL to Flash anything (except ROM's released by your carrier).
Read this wiki page and follow the steps: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
This will guide you through unlocking your phone so your can flash it.
Thanks
Dave
ahchek said:
Hi,
I have problem in locking GPS after upgrading to WM6.1 from HTC. I stay in Singapore.
I read many threads and understand GPS locking problem could be due to Radio version and also different Radio version for different countries.... I'm confused and have no confident in proceed further as I also read a lot of problem in flashing ROM. Wonder is it possible to flash ROM without running HSPL? any other solution for GPS locking instead of Radio issue?
The current status of my TyTnII shown in Device Information as follow:-
ROM Version: 3.29.707.o WWE
ROM date: 05/07/08
Radio version : 1.65.16.25
Any expert advice please..
Additional information: I stay in Singapore.
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Oi ahchek! Where you stay and which carrier? m1 or starhub? hehe kakilang
DaveShaw said:
You must Hard SPL to Flash anything (except ROM's released by your carrier).
Read this wiki page and follow the steps: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
This will guide you through unlocking your phone so your can flash it.
Thanks
Dave
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I thought you don't need to have hardSPL to flash radio since all the radios are official releases? Besides all Singapore cellphones are unlocked.
Can some experts confirm this?
If it's alright to flash then I'll recommend KAIS_RADIO_ONLY_1.71.09.01
The GPS locks under 10 secs. Fastest I lock I got was about 2.5 secs
Reception is also very good
pro838user said:
Oi ahchek! Where you stay and which carrier? m1 or starhub? hehe kakilang
I thought you don't need to have hardSPL to flash radio since all the radios are official releases? Besides all Singapore cellphones are unlocked.
Can some experts confirm this?
If it's alright to flash then I'll recommend KAIS_RADIO_ONLY_1.71.09.01
The GPS locks under 10 secs. Fastest I lock I got was about 2.5 secs
Reception is also very good
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alamak, great to hear kakilang.. I stayed in AMK, Starhub
You flashed KAIS_RADIO_ONLY_1.71.09.01?? So, you run HSPL? seems very tedious and also risky..
robinsonsam said:
Ok, to flash anything to youre device, you will need to install HardSPL, this will then allow you to flash a new radio to youre device. Radios can be found Here
Following this you will need to flash youre old SPL to youre device. These can be found Here
Sam
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I need some clarification as well - I have HSPL 3.29 and have Hyperdragon ROM - So let's say I want to flash a different ROM - I don't need to flash HSPL again do I? I can just upgrade to a different ROM?
Many thanks
spuri78 said:
I need some clarification as well - I have HSPL 3.29 and have Hyperdragon ROM - So let's say I want to flash a different ROM - I don't need to flash HSPL again do I? I can just upgrade to a different ROM?
Many thanks
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Once you have Hard Spl its permanent. Just flash another ROM.
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Once you have Hard Spl its permanent. Just flash another ROM.
Dave
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thanks Dave - That's what I wanted to know
ahchek said:
alamak, great to hear kakilang.. I stayed in AMK, Starhub
You flashed KAIS_RADIO_ONLY_1.71.09.01?? So, you run HSPL? seems very tedious and also risky..
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No. I mod everything lah.
But if you have the need to send in for repair within the warranty period can still flash back to the official one and return it. Flashing it back to the official rom is the easiest part cos only need 1 file and run once
DaveShaw said:
Once you have Hard Spl its permanent. Just flash another ROM.
Dave
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Hi Dave, sorry I'm blur block.. Is my HTC's ROM (ROM Version: 3.29.707.o WWE) is what you called HSPL 3.29?? As what pro383 was asking, phone is singapore are unlocked, do I still have to "HSPL" ?? Appreciate your advice on my specific situation.
thanks.
pro838user said:
No. I mod everything lah.
But if you have the need to send in for repair within the warranty period can still flash back to the official one and return it. Flashing it back to the official rom is the easiest part cos only need 1 file and run once
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Bro,
I'm green la, no experiences, since we are kakilang, need your advice:-
a) Do you have battery sucking problem?
b) You run HSPL, you got white screen or tri-color problem? did you run JumpSPL?
c) You use HSPL3.29? Tried HSPL3.56?
d) Flash back to official rom is by only one file? which is it?
Sorry to ask so many question. Surely you can answer la. Wait for it
Thanks.
ahchek said:
Bro,
I'm green la, no experiences, since we are kakilang, need your advice:-
a) Do you have battery sucking problem?
b) You run HSPL, you got white screen or tri-color problem? did you run JumpSPL?
c) You use HSPL3.29? Tried HSPL3.56?
d) Flash back to official rom is by only one file? which is it?
Sorry to ask so many question. Surely you can answer la. Wait for it
Thanks.
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I try haha
a) nope..never had that problem.
b) I didn't have that problem. You'll need to run JumpSPL first that flash with hard SPL
c) I use HSPL3.56 and it works fine.
d) This file
http://210.64.124.194/download/TyTN%20II_SEA_WM6.1_Upgrade_20080602.zip
This page with all the official roms listed here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Singapore ones use the SEA versions listed in the Country column
but before flashing need to follow the instructions first. Though I'll suggets you send in your phone to check for problems first before you flash jsut in case haha
I don't understand where people get the idea that an unlocked phone will allow you to flash any ROM or radio to your phone... An unlocked phone is only "carrier unlocked". This means you can switch your sim card for another companies' sim card and use their service. You will still have to mod your phone to change the software (ie. HardSPL). This does not matter where you may live. Places like Europe have laws in most areas that restrict companies from selling carrier locked phones but not phones with locked software. I hate that here in North America we have carrier locked phones. If I bought a phone for $600 or more and decided to switch carriers, I would be forced to change phones and toss my old phone. It is different if you were to switch from TDMA/CDMA to GSM as not all phones can connect to both systems, but staying on the same system we still get kicked in "the junk" and are forced to buy a new contract and phone. That is why I hate locked phones.

Noob Needs Help

Just Purchased a ATT Fuze, have it unlocked for tmobile, and i wanna flash a new rom. will i be able to do this without having to cid unlock or security unlock the radio? step by step for my situation would be awesome!
keep in mind my phone is only sim unlocked.
any help is appreciated
ELxB said:
Just Purchased a ATT Fuze, have it unlocked for tmobile, and i wanna flash a new rom. will i be able to do this without having to cid unlock or security unlock the radio? step by step for my situation would be awesome!
keep in mind my phone is only sim unlocked.
any help is appreciated
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See the 3rd thread on this page. If you get a signal now, your radio should be good
He's not asking about his radio. If you want to flash a new rom to your Fuze you do not have to be CID unlocked however you have to have hardspl flashed to your phone and you'll be good. Refer to the Flashin a New Rom for Noobs sticky in this section for help with flashing your rom.
darkshad01 said:
He's not asking about his radio. If you want to flash a new rom to your Fuze you do not have to be CID unlocked however you have to have hardspl flashed to your phone and you'll be good. Refer to the Flashin a New Rom for Noobs sticky in this section for help with flashing your rom.
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basically what im asking is if i flash the phone, will the radio be erased?
flashing a new rom will not affect your current radio. be sure to hardspl your phone before flashing any rom.

[Q] Rebrand Desire S with ICS wwe from HTCDEV

Dear all,
I am in the middle of the bridge and don't know where to go...could you please give some help deciding what to do?
I have a Branded Desire S (Vodafone) with v2.3.5 lastest OTA update, and I would like to flash and try the ICS stock WWE from HTCDEV.
The simlock has already been removed, but the thing is can i flash this ICS update? do i need any goldcard or anything of the kind? Will the phone work ok? Or do i have to wait (maybe forever...) for the vodafone update? I reallly would like to unbrand the phone (the vodafone logo and other vodefone apps are really annoying...).
I think if this WWE update will go ok, when i received and warning about any vodafone update (because the serial indicates that this phone is a vodafone one) i have to ignore it and only apply only any WWE updates from HTCDEV, rather than that, i thing phone will work ok... but still i am worried about some things like :
- bricking phone with ICS update;
- some things don't work ok with this update because is a branded phone (i chat with HTC support and they told me that some guy complained about WIFI does not work after the ICS update, ... could it be possible, even if the hardware is the same from branded and unbranded phones?;
- possibility to go back to a 2.3.5 rom if i dont like for whatever reason of the ICS of its behavior on this phone; the HTC guy told me that only on the HTC assistance was possible to make it ... dont we just have to run the correct version of the ROM (by the way i don't know which is mine, could you please tell me? Because i seached on the HTCDEV for the right software number (2.10.168.3) and the file to download is a ".gz" file not a .exe one;
Other thing, does this ICS include a PTG (Portugal) language.
I will be forever grateful for all the help / hints you can give me.:good:
Thx in advance.
D_Saint :angel:
From what I've heard, the ics update has bugs, that can only be solved with root access. Flashing the ruu should work fine though, but you won't be able to downgrade without unlocking the bootloader to get root access.
For these reasons I would recommend making your phone s-off (see guides in the "general section), and installing a fixed version of the ics update, or whatever custom rom you want. Then you can still go back to the original state, if you want to.
I read somewhere on my downgrade guide that they have successfully debranded their phone using my guide.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
Ditto to above two comments, read, read and then soff rather than htcdev
Sywepd form my DsereiS
Thx for tips, Will soff erase contacts or apps? For root with soff how to flash su??? Is there any repaired / bugless ics stock?

[Q] RUU to go back stock

I know there are several threads like this one but I prefer not to write another RUU request while you're answering to another user
So, I got a HTC One S S3 yesterday... I began to unlock it because I wanted to change its CID. I found that in the S3 version the CID can't be changed (still) when I had already installed the TWRP Recovery.
Now I'd like to go back to stock, but there is not a RUU compatible with my device: It has VODAP102 as CID, but the RUU for Vodafone AT here doesn't work. I found the kernel source for the same software version I have in htcdev.com, my question is: is it possible to build a RUU or at least a boot.img from it?
The sources can be found in htcdev /devcenter/downloads (sorry but being new I can't post direct links!), HTC One S as Device, Vodafone as Carrier and UK -
1.11.161.133 as software version. Actually I am in Italy, but the software and kernel version are exactly the same.
Thank you in advance.
Bump to first page and a little addendum:
I've read again all the possibilities I have with this phone, and if I have understood accurately then I'm forced to go back to stock, roms like the ThickDroid seem to require a non-branded CID, but that's the point... it is the CID that's compelling me to maintain this original Vodafone software, otherwise I would have already installed the HTC "basic" rom.
Am I missing something?
Thank you again!
Have you tried looking on HTCRUU.COM?
Check your radio id on the bootloader screen then flash the appropriate ROM
mikejasonsmith said:
Have you tried looking on HTCRUU.COM?
Check your radio id on the bootloader screen then flash the appropriate ROM
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Yes I checked, but they have just unbranded RUUs, here in the forum there's one RUU for Vodafone but the region isn't the same as mine.
I've read that it is possible to flash an OTA update deleting the string that checks the CID - I'll have to take a look about that (moreover, it seems very difficult to find .zip OTA updates for this phone...).
Nevertheless I'd like to find this RUU update too - it is an important option too. So... bump to first page.

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