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In about a month or two I will be putting aside my Kaiser and make way fo the Touch HD so what better way to spend the remainder of time with my Kaiser then to flash cooked ROM's!
So for the past few weeks I have been testing several cooked ROM's and here's my current favourite ROM's in no particular order based on speed,stabilty and appearance:
- SJ' HD ROM's III (shortly will be testing IV)
- PDACornerUltimate.V4
- Garmin.DK.4.Manila [OS 19971.1.4.0] - v4.4a/b/c
- MBarvian's Solace v1.5 BETA
- L26_KaiserTouch_V1_M2D
I think in there own way they are all great ROM's cooked by the finest Chefs!
If I had to choose one for my own personal permanant use it would be between SJ' HD ROM's and PDACornerUltimate.V4 I think they are both on par in terms of speed and stabilty but I think the coloured icons of PDACornerUltimate.V4 do it for me
To all the cooks well done guys and thank you!!!!
more flashing and more testing to be done........
I'm using mbarvian's Solace V1.5 beta at the moment and i'm very pleased with it. I've used the Hyperdragon III rom's and they are great too. I don't have a favorite. I'm trying new rom's when i feel like it.
PDACornerUltimate is my favourite rom since the coloured status icon. LOL
And also it is very convenient because it has all of my need.
sorry for my question ... which ROM is "SJ' HD ROM's III" ?
urinud said:
sorry for my question ... which ROM is "SJ' HD ROM's III" ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397121
i just got a kaiser and im gonna flash my first rom, hyperdragon is getting a lot of attention and looking good for me. i have unlocked it just fine and was waiting for a thread like this to confirm that that rom is one of the best
any other recommendations??
For me it's NATFs ROMs (AT&T, not Manila).
This Manila stuff is way too inflexible. I spent hours and hours testing Manila ROMs (two by NATF and Hyperdragon III) and trying to configure them to my liking. But Manila is inflexible to changes/customization, and even the fledging utility found in the forum - is not enough.
Next week I'll test another "regular" ROM.
NATF ROMs here too.
I'm running V4 Manilla Laoded right now on my mian phone and ATT Loaded on my older "back-up" phone. The each have their positives and negatives.
- Can't change the fost key in Minilla.
- Can't run anyother other home screen plug-ins with Manilla running.
-Manilla allowes you to have multipal cities in it's weather vs. just one in HTC home weather.
- Manilla allowes you to have more contacts in it contact launcher and many more apps in it app launcher then HTC Home.
But I hae found them both to be excellent ROMs.
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- Can't run anyother other home screen plug-ins with Manilla running.
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Use SecondToday cab (look it up in the forum).
It allows you to create a duplicate Today screen, where you can place all your Today plugins (either WM standard or s/w that you installed).
Then you assign it to any h/w key (I used the PTT button in my Tilt) - and voila! you're (almost) back in business regarding Today screen versatility.
But I didn't like the lags and REALLY didn't like the lack of customization abilities in Manila
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Use SecondToday cab (look it up in the forum).
It allows you to create a duplicate Today screen, where you can place all your Today plugins (either WM standard or s/w that you installed).
Then you assign it to any h/w key (I used the PTT button in my Tilt) - and voila! you're (almost) back in business regarding Today screen versatility.
But I didn't like the lags and REALLY didn't like the lack of customization abilities in Manila
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its all about the simplicity of "today plugins" and the easy customization and manipulation of the today screen...
once "manilla" came in....THAT went out the window...and like u said the whole 2nd today screen was supposed to solve that but still....it isnt the same...
im glad i found a couple of ppl like me...who arent big fans of the manilla revolution lol...but as you can see in the listed roms in the 1st post...they all are manilla based...and in the last month or so...there hasn't been any regular cooked roms excluding 888's roms...
i haven't flashed in a long time and the reason is the lack of these non-manilla based roms...hoping any chef out there will cater to the needs of myself and the others in this minority
Well, there's the NATF v4 ATT ROM, and soon I expect there'll be a 3G version of aruppenthal's 3.57_19214 RR Edition V3.7 (he's already published the 2G versions).
I really don't understand how people are willing to sacrifice easy of use for a facade...
(and I really put a lot of effort to try and adapt to the 2 Manila ROMs I tested).
Currently using MBarvian's Solace v1.5, I find it fast, stable, and has landscape! I love the manilla 2d. Not much of a fan of the regular Home screen. I have only had my tilt about a month and I don't use it for the PDA functions. A little email, a bit of text'n, mostly I wanted to stream Sirius Radio at work as they shut down internet. I love the Theme customization available for M2d. Its awesome.
wisniak said:
Use SecondToday cab (look it up in the forum).
It allows you to create a duplicate Today screen, where you can place all your Today plugins (either WM standard or s/w that you installed).
Then you assign it to any h/w key (I used the PTT button in my Tilt) - and voila! you're (almost) back in business regarding Today screen versatility.
But I didn't like the lags and REALLY didn't like the lack of customization abilities in Manila
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I take your point on board, with manila 2d it's a case of either you love it or hate it! however in my case I do not have any lag issues when using SecondToday combined with manila 2d it fits my purpose, of course this all depends on what ROM and tweak you use, as I have noticed with certain ROM's the SecondToday doesn't run smoothly!!
My absolute favourite is HyperDragon. No other ROM (and I've flashed 'em all!) comes close to the responsiveness and stability (sorry Leo )
Besides, I do not think that the Kaiser is really compatible with the Manila kind of touch interface by design (ever tried to scroll thru the index bar of Random Access with your finger? ). That's why I still stick to good old HTC Home.
Sleuth 3.0 - fast? I dont really know cause never tried other cooked ROM, but I know it is reliable and stable ...
AthineOS for me. The home V2.2 version. Stable, fast and ALOT of free ram.
Tony
AT&T in SE USA
I f you are in Southeast USA, then without a question, the best Rom is PDACornerUltimate.V4 with Radio 1.65.24.36
I should know, I have tried every new Rom since I got my Tilt (Year ago).
PDACornerUltimate.V4 got my vote.
hyperdragonIII (11-10-08)
I flashed hyperdragon yesterday. I liked it but there were too many bugs and no landscape just completely killed it for me.
Today i tried solace but ended up not liking it. The landscape wasn't really how I was excpecting it to be but still at least it had landscape even though i didn't really like it. there weren't as many programs as other roms give you on it. Also manillas are too hard to customize for my linking at this point. When they are further developed then they will probably become the only kind of roms I use.
Right now I'm using duttys diamond v1 and i seem to like it. I liked the looks and stuff of the manilla better but I like duttys rom performance better.
I'm going to check out a few of those NATF roms because I've heard they're really good.
It doesn't matter where you are in the country or the world...The ROM has nothing to do with it...its the RADIO!!!
And being a former Chef on here, I have to say HyperdragonIII is by far the most stable,responsive ROM out right now.
Simple things like...
On M2D if you go to another widget you can press the END key and get back to home!
The dialer is perfect and easily changable by skins. WIth a few minor AdvanceConfig changes by battery lasts easily 2 days with moderate use.
Just my info, but HyperDragonIII is the way to go right now. I have tried to build my own ROM lately, but keep going back to his!!!
Which one u feel better. wimo 6.1 or 6.5??? (doing survey)
After i try both, i still feel 6.1 suit me.
Reply me with two answer
1)Which u feel better, reason?
2)Which rom r u using now.
Thank.
I like 6.5 better.
1) I liked TF3D, but Titanium does all the same stuff for me and is much lighter on resources.
2) Even though the start menu is a little slower, I still like it better than the older versions.
3) I like the scrolling menus, I don't have to use the stylus as much.
4) With the recent builds, its getting up to the speed of 6.1.
I'm using RRE v3.
6.5 for me
speed is better, start menu is better, scrolling is better
and you can still use tf3d especially rhodium version you lose nothing by upgrading
I hate 6.5 start menu. I kinda like the 6.1 menu and link to programs/settings, with my shortcut list.
I've also had some compatibility issues with 6.5.
6.5 here. I like the Chome/Titanium interface better than touchflo3d.
Screen refreshes faster.
I've noticed that all the wm6.5 roms I've tried, seem to bug after time. The bug I'm talking about is the messaging slowing down in response after time. It seems like it's because there are more messages. Is this a wm6.5 bug?
1. I like wm6.5's speed. It seems to lag less, but overall max performance is the same I think (not tested using any speed test)
2. I'm currently using RREs 6.5 rom v5
Im starting to like 6.5. The speed and stability of the rom im using (rre) is winning me over. The start menu is the only thing i dont like, but everything else is good to go, at least for me
Love 6.5...............BUT going with 6.1 since some software (medical) isn't supported yet on 6.5 (epocrates specifically - at least, without losing autoupdate feature)....
Once that is taken care of, back to 6.5 for me. Loved the speed and the menu actually.
I wasn't much of a fan of 6.5 but I decided to geive Energy 3.0 Phoenix a swing and so far it is going well. I think that ROM brought me over. I will try RRE some time later since I was using RRE 5.8 before and it is still my favourite 6.1.
You can install QuickMenu and just make sure it's not set to replace the start menu. Then get the best of both worlds.
6.5, IMO.
6.5, primarily due to the native slide-to-unlock screen... I had problems with 3rd party solutions. The 6.5 app is all I need, no more, no less and it just works. I prefer the new menus as well... they are a little more finger friendly.
But I still prefer TF3D over titanium.
I tested 6.5 and it's ok but I hate new start menu.
Menus works perfect - I really like it.
IMHO i would say 6.5, it is alot more finger friendly, battery usage and speed are about the same for me.
1) For me 6.5 is way better, everything looks nicer and scrolling is soooo much smoother... New start menu (without Honeycomb) is so nice and smooth... Still like TF3D2 better then Chrome, it reserves more space for the screen selected and provides a better oversight.
2) Using EnergyROM 2009/06/12, it's incredibly stable and FAST
tried 6.5 and hated it, back to 6.1 start menu, "finger friendly" context menus were WAY to big. I bought a vga device to have MORE info per screen, not huge, zoomed in fonts
Does anyone know, or think they know what will be the differences in these two operating systems installed on a HTC device. We see from pictures that the UI in 6.5 has something like a zune type thing, then that hexagon pattern. But for most 6.1 users they don't really have to leave Touch Flo. In fact, HTC even redesigned the calendar on the TP2. So what does everyone think?
If you're using manila, the most obvious difference will be the start menu. Also, 6.5 has a native finger scrolling which is better than the htc scrolling in 6.1. Newer builds have improved task and soft key bars and some different menu enhancements. Also, 6.5 has a more advanced virtual memory model than 6.1; this may well be the biggest advancement, although it's very much 'under the hood'. You only get it on the newer devices that have native 6.5 kernels available.
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If you're using manila, the most obvious difference will be the start menu. Also, 6.5 has a native finger scrolling which is better than the htc scrolling in 6.1. Newer builds have improved task and soft key bars and some different menu enhancements. Also, 6.5 has a more advanced virtual memory model than 6.1; this may well be the biggest advancement, although it's very much 'under the hood'. You only get it on the newer devices that have native 6.5 kernels available.
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Well if it has enhanced virtual memory It should run faster, no? When I played with the 6.1 in the tmobile store, it was fast. My touch diamond is pretty slow. I wonder what HTC is going to do for 6.5. I heard they sent out test roms to sprint. for the tp2 udpate has anyone tried it?
i cant see no difference in start menu... my touch pro2 uses manila start menu.. not WM's...
this is a good thread to discuss.. i dont have any strong reason for me to change to wm6.5 ... the future manila will use fully manila skinned even in 'All Settings' menu.. i just hope wm6.5 can improve the background graphic on PPC with integrated supported drivers.. it just my imagination
What do you want to see in a ROM?
Feel free to post your request
Requests at post 2
Requests......
WM6.5(.x)
Alot of progam memory free
Manilla 2d (Eats a lot of RAM-No landscape)/SPB Shell 3.5/Chome(Light-Landscape)
Chome editor
MS Office
HTC Audiomanager
HTC Album
HTC home plugin
homescreen++
secondtoday
Fast
Jbed manager (MIDlet manager)
Total Commander (beta for wm6.5 get here)
WM6.1
WM shipping software (MS Office etc)
Kenetic Scrolling
Clean
Perfect rom... Hmy...
Win Mo 6.5
a lot of program memory ( something about 25)
Good music/video player
S2A or any slide to ansrew app.
For me it's the best rom i would ever test. But everyone got another opinion so for example for me this is th best but, for someone it's the worthest(?).
You should Now what about i'm saying.
Btw. Sorry for my english. I'm learning basics from few year.
Xardejn; said:
5203761Good music/video player
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Nitrogen?
Xardejn; said:
5203761S2A or any slide to ansrew app.
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New dialer from HTC has that function...
hmmm, perfect ROM...
I want WinMo6.5 with old gui,
much free RAM (20MB+),
with Chome editor, secondtoday, homescreen++, network wizard, HTC home plugin, MS office, HTC Audio Manager, HTC Album....,
without manilla
wm 6.5.X + manila 2d
wm 6.5.X + manila 2d
I want a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM with the following:
1. MS Office, Internet Explorer, calculator, etc. (the stuff you kind of assume comes with Windows Mobile)
2. Touch scrolling (I don't know if that's normally part of 6.1 or not...)
3. Some kind of connection setup wizard with T-Mobile for the US as an option
4. The HTC task manager would also be nice, but optional
5. My primary language is English, so I would prefer an English ROM
So I pretty much just want a pretty clean WM6.1 ROM... I feel like something like this should exist, but I haven't really been satisfied by any ROM I have tried so far. Does anyone know of one like this that already exists?
EDIT (this is for a future post because I don't want to take this off topic more): Thanks LivArt; I hadn't tried his yet. The included programs he listed always looked further from clean than I was hoping for. I finally flashed it and it's pretty good.
exhno: cracings last 6.1
I want a WM6.5 New GUI. like Cracing's ROM without Manila 2D.
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I want a WM6.5 New GUI. like Cracing's ROM without Manila 2D.
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New GUI is good. Like manilla 2.5
What I want in a ROM
a) Stable. Most ROMs nowadays are stable, but I remember when they crashed a lot.
b) Enough free RAM to run programs, without having to reboot. I really like the latest CRACING rom, except that there are several programs that won't launch unless I've just rebooted.
c) Fast. For our poor Wizard, that usually means overclocking support. So build in TodayScreen++ or some other overclocker. And make it fast even without overclocking.
d) Finished. Don't give me dead links, like on the Internet panel of M2D. Don't leave out camera or MMS either. Naked is okay, but what is in the rom needs to be complete, and seem not like a work in progress.
e) Some things just work better when in a ROM, like M2D and Office. Put those in, whether I use them or not.
f) Anything that would run fine in Storage Card, or anything that is being actively developed so that new versions are coming out, keep those OUT of the rom.
Of the roms available on these forums, I like the following quite a bit.
This isn't ordered: I have a hard time picking a favorite. Don't believe my signature: I'm running RoryB's latest rom today.
S.V.I. / RoryB's Angel series: best 6.1 complete
CRACING's CR96 Touch HD series: best 6.5 complete
xda2_haseeb: some awesome 6.5 roms, looking forward to the New Year
md_bluelily's MSD series: best 6.5 naked
Any of the "alpha" roms by Ham3r: awesome 6.5 and best 6.1 naked rom.
In terms of home screens:
Chome is nice but a bit too minimal, and disables the old plugins.
M2D is beautiful and functional but takes too much ram, disables old plugins.
HTC Home is simple, good enough, works with plugins.
SPB 3.5 is best, fully functional, less ram than M2D, works with plugins.
But you can't put SPB in your rom (it's commercial).
So I'd vote for (in order) HTC Home, CHome, M2D.
Which OS?
I like it fingerfriendly so I would prefer WM6.5.x (with new style GUI).
Which TodayScreen?
M2D looks good but needs a lot of packages (and space) in the kitchen. It also eats up a way to much RAM. If you want other features with M2D you can not use additional today-plugins and last but not least our wizard has a slide-out keyboard and even the new M2D 2.0 has no real landscape-mode.
CHome does not need so much RAM, it has a landsacape-mode and there are already quit a lot of extra plugins. But you need special CHome-plugins and you cannot use normal today-plugins, it does not look good and the features and the controll are just to minimal.
HTC-Home is quit old but it works in landscape, needs only very little RAM and you can still run other today-plugins (like calendar+). It has no slide-effects but still is extremly fingerfriendly.
For me HTC Home (with calendar+) is still the best!
Which additional Software?
With HTC Home you don't need CHome Editor or M2DC. I don't even use HTC Home Config.
With WM6.5.x (without M2D) you also don't need extra touchflo stuff.
Important software:
- Total Commander
- WM5torage
- calendar+
- HTC Album (2.x works much better than 3.x!)
- a good text editor (more important than all the Office stuff)
- I would also add a Midlet-Manager like Esmertec Jbed
I also use TomTom and S2U2 but I would not include them in my ROM.
Last but not least I want a german ROM so I cooked my SKYNET ROM!
I pretty much agree, but I use Office for work stuff, believe it or not.
Oh, and I need a rom in English.
6.5 with new GUI
Try Bluelilly's or X2H's
Manila, Manila 2.1, Manila 2.5, Sense.
Cool, Eye catchers, Smooth, etc. etc. etc.
These add-ons make the Topaz look and feel better. Just scroll left, scroll right, touch the thing and it rollz.
Is this really needed?
I don't think so. I have tried a lot of roms with these interfaces. Indeed the eyes are satisfied. But the performance is not.
I want when press the green send button the dialer to appear immediately, not after the phone first wake up. I want when executing something the thing to be run, rather than waiting sometimes ridiculous seconds until the appearance.
I was bored and bored with waiting. Really why something to be loaded into my system if that is not what works for me?? I work with dialer, contacts, calendar, run various applications. Why to waste system resources on interfaces???
My boredom lead to removing the sense through the today settings and
adding some today plugins, like launcher. And of course – topaz keyboard control for keys mapping.
The result is much much faster phone, which works for me, not for the interface.
Edit: WM 6.1. is fast, but a lot of features from 2009 are missing, that is why I prefer WM6.5.
if you want speed install wm 6.1 with no interface.
orlean, agree completely
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Manila, Manila 2.1, Manila 2.5, Sense.
Cool, Eye catchers, Smooth, etc. etc. etc.
These add-ons make the Topaz look and feel better. Just scroll left, scroll right, touch the thing and it rollz.
Is this really needed?
I don't think so. I have tried a lot of roms with these interfaces. Indeed the eyes are satisfied. But the performance is not.
I want when press the green send button the dialer to appear immediately, not after the phone first wake up. I want when executing something the thing to be run, rather than waiting sometimes ridiculous seconds until the appearance.
I was bored and bored with waiting. Really why something to be loaded into my system if that is not what works for me?? I work with dialer, contacts, calendar, run various applications. Why to waste system resources on interfaces???
My boredom lead to removing the sense through the today settings and
adding some today plugins, like launcher. And of course – topaz keyboard control for keys mapping.
The result is much much faster phone, which works for me, not for the interface.
Edit: WM 6.1. is fast, but a lot of features from 2009 are missing, that is why I prefer WM6.5.
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which features do you mean??????
cyron_at
Basically I lack WIFI router integrated (I know I can install it separately);
And I had some bad expirence with some settings which I can not recall now.
But the number of question marks in your post made me look for another 6.1. realase. I am now downloading tess 6.1. from august.
What do you use?
use tess and you will be fine).
and if 6.1 is ugly to you try home ui or new infinity ui. they are speedy too.
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cyron_at
Basically I lack WIFI router integrated (I know I can install it separately);
And I had some bad expirence with some settings which I can not recall now.
But the number of question marks in your post made me look for another 6.1. realase. I am now downloading tess 6.1. from august.
What do you use?
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I am using duttys HG R6...very stable; but try them all and make your choice...
So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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The forum is titled " Topaz Themes, Applications and Software"
Sense 2.1 & 2.5 fit 2 of these categories....
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So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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chill man he posted about the fact that mannila sucks and he coudnt be more correct.
I'm with you! Stopped using Manila a few days ago and my mobile experience has never been better. Using no today plug-ins now and my phone is faster, lighter and more stable than ever before. Memory usage is now 33% on a fresh boot and my home screen is uncluttered showing only my wallpaper, which looks great.
The most important thing for me was organising my start menu so that all my apps are readily accessable. That done, it's easy for me to access everything i need quickly, in fact faster than it was using Manila. I find Winmo 6.5 has everything i need with exception of a few things, and for those there are great free alternatives without having to resort to Manila bloat. For instance i use Nitrogen as a music player which is ten times better than Windows mobile media player OR Manila player.
Of course your mileage will vary but in my opinion the OP is right. Get yourself a good 6.5 ROM, install apps for the things you need/use a lot and use the start menu to access them.
Hi DirkGently1,
Hi guys;
I tried WM6.5. then reverted to 6.1.
I have running in the background: FingerKeyboard, AutoCallRecord, PlayPause, Topazkbgkontrol.
Memory after restart... 29%
I use Topaz Essential 6.1. v.2f
And the best part is that I don't want to flash new rom anymore :
orlean said:
Hi DirkGently1,
Hi guys;
I tried WM6.5. then reverted to 6.1.
I have running in the background: FingerKeyboard, AutoCallRecord, PlayPause, Topazkbgkontrol.
Memory after restart... 29%
I use Topaz Essential 6.1. v.2f
And the best part is that I don't want to flash new rom anymore :
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So true. Once you find a good ROM there's no reason to change. Stability and speed are what makes a good user experience and Manila, or any other add-on UI, runs contrary to that by adding complexity, instability and bloat.
i hate to say this twice but realy , try infinity. runs realy great on topaz. it maybe not complete replacment yet but its usable
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i hate to say this twice but realy , try infinity. runs realy great on topaz. it maybe not complete replacment yet but its usable
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But what does it do that i can't do without it?
well. nothing realy. but its nice to have shortcuts the way you want them and see what time it is. and all that is pretty without slowdowns
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582081
Just a nod to the chef here for people who like a clean rom without any bloatware. Xara 6.5.x clean is working perfectly on my Topaz and i LOVE it!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582081
Just a nod to the chef here for people who like a clean rom without any bloatware. Xara 6.5.x clean is working perfectly on my Topaz and i LOVE it!
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Great! That is what I am always looking for! I dont understand how can I pass that. nah....
Thanks for the link dude
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Great! That is what I am always looking for! I dont understand how can I pass that. nah....
Thanks for the link dude
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My pleasure!
This is the 1st truly useable clean rom that has been released for the Topaz and it is really spot on. Even the default Windows Mobile keyboard is useable, in fact much improved from previous iterations.
Kudos to the chef.
Ï hate Manila and I hate 6.5 -and I'll probably also hate 7