Wimo 6.1 Compare 6.5 (survey) - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Which one u feel better. wimo 6.1 or 6.5??? (doing survey)
After i try both, i still feel 6.1 suit me.
Reply me with two answer
1)Which u feel better, reason?
2)Which rom r u using now.
Thank.

I like 6.5 better.
1) I liked TF3D, but Titanium does all the same stuff for me and is much lighter on resources.
2) Even though the start menu is a little slower, I still like it better than the older versions.
3) I like the scrolling menus, I don't have to use the stylus as much.
4) With the recent builds, its getting up to the speed of 6.1.
I'm using RRE v3.

6.5 for me
speed is better, start menu is better, scrolling is better
and you can still use tf3d especially rhodium version you lose nothing by upgrading

I hate 6.5 start menu. I kinda like the 6.1 menu and link to programs/settings, with my shortcut list.
I've also had some compatibility issues with 6.5.

6.5 here. I like the Chome/Titanium interface better than touchflo3d.
Screen refreshes faster.

I've noticed that all the wm6.5 roms I've tried, seem to bug after time. The bug I'm talking about is the messaging slowing down in response after time. It seems like it's because there are more messages. Is this a wm6.5 bug?
1. I like wm6.5's speed. It seems to lag less, but overall max performance is the same I think (not tested using any speed test)
2. I'm currently using RREs 6.5 rom v5

Im starting to like 6.5. The speed and stability of the rom im using (rre) is winning me over. The start menu is the only thing i dont like, but everything else is good to go, at least for me

Love 6.5...............BUT going with 6.1 since some software (medical) isn't supported yet on 6.5 (epocrates specifically - at least, without losing autoupdate feature)....
Once that is taken care of, back to 6.5 for me. Loved the speed and the menu actually.

I wasn't much of a fan of 6.5 but I decided to geive Energy 3.0 Phoenix a swing and so far it is going well. I think that ROM brought me over. I will try RRE some time later since I was using RRE 5.8 before and it is still my favourite 6.1.

You can install QuickMenu and just make sure it's not set to replace the start menu. Then get the best of both worlds.

6.5, IMO.

6.5, primarily due to the native slide-to-unlock screen... I had problems with 3rd party solutions. The 6.5 app is all I need, no more, no less and it just works. I prefer the new menus as well... they are a little more finger friendly.
But I still prefer TF3D over titanium.

I tested 6.5 and it's ok but I hate new start menu.
Menus works perfect - I really like it.

IMHO i would say 6.5, it is alot more finger friendly, battery usage and speed are about the same for me.

1) For me 6.5 is way better, everything looks nicer and scrolling is soooo much smoother... New start menu (without Honeycomb) is so nice and smooth... Still like TF3D2 better then Chrome, it reserves more space for the screen selected and provides a better oversight.
2) Using EnergyROM 2009/06/12, it's incredibly stable and FAST

tried 6.5 and hated it, back to 6.1 start menu, "finger friendly" context menus were WAY to big. I bought a vga device to have MORE info per screen, not huge, zoomed in fonts

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Anyone using TP without TouchFlo? How fast is it then?

Just curious, because I like the close-to-generic Today screen setup I use on my Mogul, and perhaps the speed is optimized without TouchFlo. I wouldn't want to lose speed or practicality for an ICI
TheBundo said:
Just curious, because I like the close-to-generic Today screen setup I use on my Mogul, and perhaps the speed is optimized without TouchFlo. I wouldn't want to lose speed or practicality for an ICI
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Yes, I was so accustomed to using Wisbar Advances with Pocket Breeze and Pocket Weather that I finally put them on my TP and turned of the TF3D -- debated quite awhile before doing so because I like the TF3D interface, just found my other configuration "more comfortable" to use. As for speed, it's hard to tell -- the non-TF configuration is quite snappy and I rarely have to wait, but my TF3D configuration was always snappy too -- didn't really feel it was slow and it would be hard to say that w/o it my TP is any faster.
yes, I turned touchflo off. I use spb mobile shell. just because it's so much better/easier to use!
If it's faster? I have no idea...but it run's veeeery smootly @ the moment!
I was wondering the same thing.... I loved the HTC Home program on my HTC Artemis and I can't get quite into TF3D...
Is there a VGA version of HOME??
Same here. Disabled Touch3DFlo and installed Spb Mobileshell.
But I don't see any changes whatever the speed.
I'm surprised to see so many people disabling touchflo, yet those without it are usually trying to get it. I loved TF3D and the standard windows mobile just seems so boring.
I disable TF3D few days before, and reuse it when I meet "Second Today".
Faster than enable? No, same, as same as slow.
It seems that without tf3d is a little bit faster, but not very much. TF3D was the most beautiful interface I saw in a wm device, and it resisted the longest but after the wow-factor depleted I still got back to the very functionally SPB Pocket Plus.
With these settings it runs almost as fast as my old eten m700 with tb_tb firmware. Some screen redrawing is visible from time to time and screen realigns after 3 seconds - very slow - to landscape mode when opening keyboard, but in rest is sure fast. Now for some 3D games utilizing the 3D card in the qualcom chipset?
I'm thinking of removing the TF3D but I don't know where to download the SPB mobile shell? I can only find one page but I actually have to pay for the software? Isn't it opensource / freeware?
No, it's not freeware.
I just want 'HTC HOME' back!
But what if you do want to install TF3D? Can you download it somewhere?
I would like to get rid of some items, that are installed during the installation of TF3D. Now it is not so hard to install without TF3D (and not having those nasty's) But i like TF3D, so i would like to install this afterwards.
the same, disabled touchlo, installed SPB mobile shell...also, the email and sms wien in touchlo was very uncomfortable for me, if i was looking for some email, i had to scroll through all of them
I really dont remember how fast it was, but withouth it its fast enough for me (i had htc P3300 before and that was slow as hell)
No ideas where to find TF3D? I think it's not illegal, because i already am running TF3D. It's just that i don't want the 'extra's'

The pros and cons of WM6.5

So I now have a Rhodium running WM6.1 and TF3D2 and am wondering of the benefits of upgrading to WM6.5 when HardSPL is released.
It is likely i will be upgrading as the two ROMs which i am dying to try At0mAng & EnergyROM both look like they are going to be 6.5.
Aside from the honeycomb start menu what are the benefits of WM6.5 as on my Raphael (Touch Pro, Fuze) i saw no real benefits (except kinetic scrolling but my Rhodium has that currently.
Feedback needed!
I am running 6.5 and it seems very slick and fast. I like the way the Chef has tried to hide the microsoftness from it.
I would suggest you try them both when you get the oppurtunity as everyone likes different things in their roms so it's really a matter of personal preference
On my experience:
6.5: More nice graphipcs UI, more finger friendly, more heavy RAM usage
6.1: More stable, better performance
I´m actually testing 6.5 on my Universal with only 64mb of RAM and it´s not as fast and stable as 6.1
theoneeye said:
I am running 6.5 and it seems very slick and fast. I like the way the Chef has tried to hide the microsoftness from it.
I would suggest you try them both when you get the oppurtunity as everyone likes different things in their roms so it's really a matter of personal preference
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I have used 6.5 on my Raphael and saw very little difference aside from kinetic scrolling and the start menu.
Any other differences?
Hi,
internet explorer is also better, with a zoom like Opera mobile, iris browser or netfront.
6.5 right now seems to be a visually enhanced 6.1. With kenetic scrolling randomly painted on some Windows screens. Mostly menus and such.

What's the difference between WM 6.1 6.5 For TouchFlo Users.

Does anyone know, or think they know what will be the differences in these two operating systems installed on a HTC device. We see from pictures that the UI in 6.5 has something like a zune type thing, then that hexagon pattern. But for most 6.1 users they don't really have to leave Touch Flo. In fact, HTC even redesigned the calendar on the TP2. So what does everyone think?
If you're using manila, the most obvious difference will be the start menu. Also, 6.5 has a native finger scrolling which is better than the htc scrolling in 6.1. Newer builds have improved task and soft key bars and some different menu enhancements. Also, 6.5 has a more advanced virtual memory model than 6.1; this may well be the biggest advancement, although it's very much 'under the hood'. You only get it on the newer devices that have native 6.5 kernels available.
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If you're using manila, the most obvious difference will be the start menu. Also, 6.5 has a native finger scrolling which is better than the htc scrolling in 6.1. Newer builds have improved task and soft key bars and some different menu enhancements. Also, 6.5 has a more advanced virtual memory model than 6.1; this may well be the biggest advancement, although it's very much 'under the hood'. You only get it on the newer devices that have native 6.5 kernels available.
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Well if it has enhanced virtual memory It should run faster, no? When I played with the 6.1 in the tmobile store, it was fast. My touch diamond is pretty slow. I wonder what HTC is going to do for 6.5. I heard they sent out test roms to sprint. for the tp2 udpate has anyone tried it?
i cant see no difference in start menu... my touch pro2 uses manila start menu.. not WM's...
this is a good thread to discuss.. i dont have any strong reason for me to change to wm6.5 ... the future manila will use fully manila skinned even in 'All Settings' menu.. i just hope wm6.5 can improve the background graphic on PPC with integrated supported drivers.. it just my imagination

Benefits of WinMo 6.5?

I am a very satisfied user of my Verizon TP2 (stock rom). It is by far the best phone I've owned.
I was wondering, as I wait for Verizon to release WinMo 6.5, what improvements might I anticipate with this new version? Will there be anything earth shattering or significant?
I just didn't want to be checking the boards everyday, waiting for something that really isn't worth drooling over!
Thanks for your thoughts!
From my experience it benefit you by more eye candies and being exponentially slower. Ofcourse, it will use Sense 2.5 which has more graphic than 2.1. Such as the weather effect on over the entire Today screen.
The organization is strange, the icons are displayed in zigzag order which makes no sense and difficult to navigate. The one thing I like is in file explorer you can select multiple files at once. There are more specific things, but since it is slower and take up more space it is not more practical for me as I do not masturbate to my cellphone. Personally if I was to use 6.5, then I would get a custom rom that has 6.5.5, but with Sense 2.1, such as Calkulin's roms.
WAR_GA said:
I am a very satisfied user of my Verizon TP2 (stock rom). It is by far the best phone I've owned.
I was wondering, as I wait for Verizon to release WinMo 6.5, what improvements might I anticipate with this new version? Will there be anything earth shattering or significant?
I just didn't want to be checking the boards everyday, waiting for something that really isn't worth drooling over!
Thanks for your thoughts!
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eksasol said:
From my experience it benefit you by more eye candies and being exponentially slower. Ofcourse, it will use Sense 2.5 which has more graphic than 2.1. Such as the weather effect on over the entire Today screen.
The organization is strange, the icons are displayed in zigzag order which makes no sense and difficult to navigate. The one thing I like is in file explorer you can select multiple files at once. There are more specific things, but since it is slower and take up more space it is not more practical for me as I do not masturbate to my cellphone. Personally if I was to use 6.5, then I would get a custom rom that has 6.5.5, but with Sense 2.1, such as Calkulin's roms.
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False. Currently, only the HTC Leo (HD2) will officially run with Sense 2.5. The Rhodium will still (at least for now) officially have Sense 2.1. The current stock ROMs contains TouchFlo3D 2.0 (Manila 2.0; neither Manila 2.1 nor Manila 2.5).
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It's true it's simply eye candy, but it's also finger-friendliness. The "zigzag order" or "honeycomb" layout is initially confusing, but after running WM6.5 since September, I like it and it's definitely finger friendly. Nevertheless, there is a tweak to disable the honeycomb layout, and turns it into a vertical list layout.
Also, as you get deeper into WM6.5 (where there is no Manila integration), in menus such as Sounds & Notifications, there's definitely a more rounded (better looking) appearance to the whole interface. Moreover, you can swipe left and right to access the other "tabs" that you have in WM6.1.
However, I do agree that a custom ROM with WM6.5.x is definitely a worthy upgrade from WM6.1. It's much easier to navigate with the Start button and other navigation controls at the bottom of the screen.
I'm a big fan of the new lock screen since you can just slide to unlock rather than press two different screen areas. It also shows your calendar appointments which is pretty awesome.
I don't like how settings are organized since it can be a pita to find something specific and you have to go back/forth through the menus. And sms/mms can pretty much lock up my phone it's so slow, but really it was like that on 6.1 too so I dunno. Overall it's graphically much nicer, but slower so I kinda hate it.
ps I'm on the latest Mighty Rom w/o sense.
Finger friendlier menus and better arrangement. I use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3 and think Manila (Sense or whatever) is too painful to use. With this setup my Touch Pro 2 flies so don't believe that 6.5 is just slow......Its not.
Agree
More finger friendly, nicer UI!!
Don´t forget to vote for Rhodium!!
WEll
in 6.5 can you reorder your PROGRAMS screen? is there a way to do this in 6.1??? I have to remove icons and add them aagin in the proper space to organize them...
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in 6.5 can you reorder your PROGRAMS screen? is there a way to do this in 6.1??? I have to remove icons and add them aagin in the proper space to organize them...
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Depending on the ROM you get, you can press/hold on an icon, and drag to wherever you want. In other ROMs (probably like the stock ROM, not sure) you press/hold on an icon, and you can only let it go to the very top of the start menu.
WAR_GA said:
I am a very satisfied user of my Verizon TP2 (stock rom). It is by far the best phone I've owned.
I was wondering, as I wait for Verizon to release WinMo 6.5, what improvements might I anticipate with this new version? Will there be anything earth shattering or significant?
I just didn't want to be checking the boards everyday, waiting for something that really isn't worth drooling over!
Thanks for your thoughts!
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More eye candy, just this
I loved the eye candy -- but did not like how fast my battery drained and lockups that required me to hit the reset button because the phone would not "wake up" no matter what button I pushed. I'm back to 6.1 but carefully looking though the custom roms with 6.5 before deciding to jump in.
sunNsnow said:
I loved the eye candy -- but did not like how fast my battery drained and lockups that required me to hit the reset button because the phone would not "wake up" no matter what button I pushed. I'm back to 6.1 but carefully looking though the custom roms with 6.5 before deciding to jump in.
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Guessing you had the same problem I was having:
AB_ said:
Here's a video of my problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4QfRyUuhkA
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I did a hard reset and haven't had it happen to me again.
Videos play smoother
Noticed two big things other than appearance... Bluetooth now hangs up correctly, and 2, videos play smoothly without having to disable bluetooth.
Two big improvement that now put 6.5 back in the same playing field as the TP I with 6.1...
-Sheldon

Manila? No, thanks. I need speed.

Manila, Manila 2.1, Manila 2.5, Sense.
Cool, Eye catchers, Smooth, etc. etc. etc.
These add-ons make the Topaz look and feel better. Just scroll left, scroll right, touch the thing and it rollz.
Is this really needed?
I don't think so. I have tried a lot of roms with these interfaces. Indeed the eyes are satisfied. But the performance is not.
I want when press the green send button the dialer to appear immediately, not after the phone first wake up. I want when executing something the thing to be run, rather than waiting sometimes ridiculous seconds until the appearance.
I was bored and bored with waiting. Really why something to be loaded into my system if that is not what works for me?? I work with dialer, contacts, calendar, run various applications. Why to waste system resources on interfaces???
My boredom lead to removing the sense through the today settings and
adding some today plugins, like launcher. And of course – topaz keyboard control for keys mapping.
The result is much much faster phone, which works for me, not for the interface.
Edit: WM 6.1. is fast, but a lot of features from 2009 are missing, that is why I prefer WM6.5.
if you want speed install wm 6.1 with no interface.
orlean, agree completely
orlean said:
Manila, Manila 2.1, Manila 2.5, Sense.
Cool, Eye catchers, Smooth, etc. etc. etc.
These add-ons make the Topaz look and feel better. Just scroll left, scroll right, touch the thing and it rollz.
Is this really needed?
I don't think so. I have tried a lot of roms with these interfaces. Indeed the eyes are satisfied. But the performance is not.
I want when press the green send button the dialer to appear immediately, not after the phone first wake up. I want when executing something the thing to be run, rather than waiting sometimes ridiculous seconds until the appearance.
I was bored and bored with waiting. Really why something to be loaded into my system if that is not what works for me?? I work with dialer, contacts, calendar, run various applications. Why to waste system resources on interfaces???
My boredom lead to removing the sense through the today settings and
adding some today plugins, like launcher. And of course – topaz keyboard control for keys mapping.
The result is much much faster phone, which works for me, not for the interface.
Edit: WM 6.1. is fast, but a lot of features from 2009 are missing, that is why I prefer WM6.5.
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which features do you mean??????
cyron_at
Basically I lack WIFI router integrated (I know I can install it separately);
And I had some bad expirence with some settings which I can not recall now.
But the number of question marks in your post made me look for another 6.1. realase. I am now downloading tess 6.1. from august.
What do you use?
use tess and you will be fine).
and if 6.1 is ugly to you try home ui or new infinity ui. they are speedy too.
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cyron_at
Basically I lack WIFI router integrated (I know I can install it separately);
And I had some bad expirence with some settings which I can not recall now.
But the number of question marks in your post made me look for another 6.1. realase. I am now downloading tess 6.1. from august.
What do you use?
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I am using duttys HG R6...very stable; but try them all and make your choice...
So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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The forum is titled " Topaz Themes, Applications and Software"
Sense 2.1 & 2.5 fit 2 of these categories....
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So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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chill man he posted about the fact that mannila sucks and he coudnt be more correct.
I'm with you! Stopped using Manila a few days ago and my mobile experience has never been better. Using no today plug-ins now and my phone is faster, lighter and more stable than ever before. Memory usage is now 33% on a fresh boot and my home screen is uncluttered showing only my wallpaper, which looks great.
The most important thing for me was organising my start menu so that all my apps are readily accessable. That done, it's easy for me to access everything i need quickly, in fact faster than it was using Manila. I find Winmo 6.5 has everything i need with exception of a few things, and for those there are great free alternatives without having to resort to Manila bloat. For instance i use Nitrogen as a music player which is ten times better than Windows mobile media player OR Manila player.
Of course your mileage will vary but in my opinion the OP is right. Get yourself a good 6.5 ROM, install apps for the things you need/use a lot and use the start menu to access them.
Hi DirkGently1,
Hi guys;
I tried WM6.5. then reverted to 6.1.
I have running in the background: FingerKeyboard, AutoCallRecord, PlayPause, Topazkbgkontrol.
Memory after restart... 29%
I use Topaz Essential 6.1. v.2f
And the best part is that I don't want to flash new rom anymore :
orlean said:
Hi DirkGently1,
Hi guys;
I tried WM6.5. then reverted to 6.1.
I have running in the background: FingerKeyboard, AutoCallRecord, PlayPause, Topazkbgkontrol.
Memory after restart... 29%
I use Topaz Essential 6.1. v.2f
And the best part is that I don't want to flash new rom anymore :
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So true. Once you find a good ROM there's no reason to change. Stability and speed are what makes a good user experience and Manila, or any other add-on UI, runs contrary to that by adding complexity, instability and bloat.
i hate to say this twice but realy , try infinity. runs realy great on topaz. it maybe not complete replacment yet but its usable
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i hate to say this twice but realy , try infinity. runs realy great on topaz. it maybe not complete replacment yet but its usable
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But what does it do that i can't do without it?
well. nothing realy. but its nice to have shortcuts the way you want them and see what time it is. and all that is pretty without slowdowns
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582081
Just a nod to the chef here for people who like a clean rom without any bloatware. Xara 6.5.x clean is working perfectly on my Topaz and i LOVE it!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582081
Just a nod to the chef here for people who like a clean rom without any bloatware. Xara 6.5.x clean is working perfectly on my Topaz and i LOVE it!
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Great! That is what I am always looking for! I dont understand how can I pass that. nah....
Thanks for the link dude
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Great! That is what I am always looking for! I dont understand how can I pass that. nah....
Thanks for the link dude
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My pleasure!
This is the 1st truly useable clean rom that has been released for the Topaz and it is really spot on. Even the default Windows Mobile keyboard is useable, in fact much improved from previous iterations.
Kudos to the chef.
Ï hate Manila and I hate 6.5 -and I'll probably also hate 7

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