Manila, Manila 2.1, Manila 2.5, Sense.
Cool, Eye catchers, Smooth, etc. etc. etc.
These add-ons make the Topaz look and feel better. Just scroll left, scroll right, touch the thing and it rollz.
Is this really needed?
I don't think so. I have tried a lot of roms with these interfaces. Indeed the eyes are satisfied. But the performance is not.
I want when press the green send button the dialer to appear immediately, not after the phone first wake up. I want when executing something the thing to be run, rather than waiting sometimes ridiculous seconds until the appearance.
I was bored and bored with waiting. Really why something to be loaded into my system if that is not what works for me?? I work with dialer, contacts, calendar, run various applications. Why to waste system resources on interfaces???
My boredom lead to removing the sense through the today settings and
adding some today plugins, like launcher. And of course – topaz keyboard control for keys mapping.
The result is much much faster phone, which works for me, not for the interface.
Edit: WM 6.1. is fast, but a lot of features from 2009 are missing, that is why I prefer WM6.5.
if you want speed install wm 6.1 with no interface.
orlean, agree completely
orlean said:
Manila, Manila 2.1, Manila 2.5, Sense.
Cool, Eye catchers, Smooth, etc. etc. etc.
These add-ons make the Topaz look and feel better. Just scroll left, scroll right, touch the thing and it rollz.
Is this really needed?
I don't think so. I have tried a lot of roms with these interfaces. Indeed the eyes are satisfied. But the performance is not.
I want when press the green send button the dialer to appear immediately, not after the phone first wake up. I want when executing something the thing to be run, rather than waiting sometimes ridiculous seconds until the appearance.
I was bored and bored with waiting. Really why something to be loaded into my system if that is not what works for me?? I work with dialer, contacts, calendar, run various applications. Why to waste system resources on interfaces???
My boredom lead to removing the sense through the today settings and
adding some today plugins, like launcher. And of course – topaz keyboard control for keys mapping.
The result is much much faster phone, which works for me, not for the interface.
Edit: WM 6.1. is fast, but a lot of features from 2009 are missing, that is why I prefer WM6.5.
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which features do you mean??????
cyron_at
Basically I lack WIFI router integrated (I know I can install it separately);
And I had some bad expirence with some settings which I can not recall now.
But the number of question marks in your post made me look for another 6.1. realase. I am now downloading tess 6.1. from august.
What do you use?
use tess and you will be fine).
and if 6.1 is ugly to you try home ui or new infinity ui. they are speedy too.
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cyron_at
Basically I lack WIFI router integrated (I know I can install it separately);
And I had some bad expirence with some settings which I can not recall now.
But the number of question marks in your post made me look for another 6.1. realase. I am now downloading tess 6.1. from august.
What do you use?
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I am using duttys HG R6...very stable; but try them all and make your choice...
So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
xboxhaxorz said:
So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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The forum is titled " Topaz Themes, Applications and Software"
Sense 2.1 & 2.5 fit 2 of these categories....
xboxhaxorz said:
So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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chill man he posted about the fact that mannila sucks and he coudnt be more correct.
I'm with you! Stopped using Manila a few days ago and my mobile experience has never been better. Using no today plug-ins now and my phone is faster, lighter and more stable than ever before. Memory usage is now 33% on a fresh boot and my home screen is uncluttered showing only my wallpaper, which looks great.
The most important thing for me was organising my start menu so that all my apps are readily accessable. That done, it's easy for me to access everything i need quickly, in fact faster than it was using Manila. I find Winmo 6.5 has everything i need with exception of a few things, and for those there are great free alternatives without having to resort to Manila bloat. For instance i use Nitrogen as a music player which is ten times better than Windows mobile media player OR Manila player.
Of course your mileage will vary but in my opinion the OP is right. Get yourself a good 6.5 ROM, install apps for the things you need/use a lot and use the start menu to access them.
Hi DirkGently1,
Hi guys;
I tried WM6.5. then reverted to 6.1.
I have running in the background: FingerKeyboard, AutoCallRecord, PlayPause, Topazkbgkontrol.
Memory after restart... 29%
I use Topaz Essential 6.1. v.2f
And the best part is that I don't want to flash new rom anymore :
orlean said:
Hi DirkGently1,
Hi guys;
I tried WM6.5. then reverted to 6.1.
I have running in the background: FingerKeyboard, AutoCallRecord, PlayPause, Topazkbgkontrol.
Memory after restart... 29%
I use Topaz Essential 6.1. v.2f
And the best part is that I don't want to flash new rom anymore :
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So true. Once you find a good ROM there's no reason to change. Stability and speed are what makes a good user experience and Manila, or any other add-on UI, runs contrary to that by adding complexity, instability and bloat.
i hate to say this twice but realy , try infinity. runs realy great on topaz. it maybe not complete replacment yet but its usable
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i hate to say this twice but realy , try infinity. runs realy great on topaz. it maybe not complete replacment yet but its usable
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But what does it do that i can't do without it?
well. nothing realy. but its nice to have shortcuts the way you want them and see what time it is. and all that is pretty without slowdowns
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582081
Just a nod to the chef here for people who like a clean rom without any bloatware. Xara 6.5.x clean is working perfectly on my Topaz and i LOVE it!
DirkGently1 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582081
Just a nod to the chef here for people who like a clean rom without any bloatware. Xara 6.5.x clean is working perfectly on my Topaz and i LOVE it!
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Great! That is what I am always looking for! I dont understand how can I pass that. nah....
Thanks for the link dude
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Great! That is what I am always looking for! I dont understand how can I pass that. nah....
Thanks for the link dude
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My pleasure!
This is the 1st truly useable clean rom that has been released for the Topaz and it is really spot on. Even the default Windows Mobile keyboard is useable, in fact much improved from previous iterations.
Kudos to the chef.
Ï hate Manila and I hate 6.5 -and I'll probably also hate 7
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Most recent cooked ROM's come with Manilla2D, and now, thanks to the P3D team even with Manilla3D. I personally am not a fan of Manilla, for a number of reasons, and I would like your opinion. So vote please!
I'm hoping for future ROM's without Manilla preinstalled. For the following reasons:
Manilla only shows 1 upcoming appointment. That's not enough overview for me. Furthermore you have to jump through hoops to have it directly open your favorite PIM manager's calendar like Pocket Informant
When wanting to call someone while driving a car, the Cube fits best. I can almost call my wife without looking at the screen once. Scrolling to the persons-tab in Manilla takes a lot of precision and attention.
I use the sound profiles tab in HTC Home Plugin a lot, putting my device on silent or vibrating with one click. I haven't found that funtionality in Manilla
I lock my device a lot, preventing buttons from being pushed in my pocket. Device Lock could be on the programs tab in Manilla (with all my other favorite progs). But then again, it is hard to reach that tab accurately, as mentioned earlier for the persons tab
I really must admit Manilla looks way better than the standard Today screen and it's nice to have something new to look at, but I'm not willing to give up functionality for that.
No disrespect is meant to people who spend their time on cooking ROM's and sharing them with others. I really appreciate everything. I'm just hoping I won't be forced to use Manilla if I would like to use a newer/faster ROM in the future.
Hi deechte
I think that this voting not necessary because both of TouchFlo 2D & 3D will dead when the new version of ThrottleLauncher 0.9.5 will release after a few days and I think that all cooker will add it or at lest release the rom without TouchFlo
follow up this thread to see what will be ThrottleLauncher 0.9.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436445
or watch this video
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/the-news/1-latest-news/85-095preview
thx
I really dislike the direction that Manilla 2D/3D takes us. I looks stunning, but like you stated its terrible for us drivers. There is no way to use the phone in landscape with Manilla and it requires a lot of involvement to get where you want to be. HTC Home was elegant, simple point and click, and it worked in landscape also!
secoseco said:
follow up this thread to see what will be ThrottleLauncher 0.9.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436445
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Thanks for that information. TL sure looks nice, and I see profiles passing by in that clip. However, it looks as complicated as Manilla to scroll to the tab you want, which indeed takes to much involvement while driving. But we'll see how it really works when it's released.
Btw, just another reason to have a clean ROM, so you can choose for HHP, Manilla or TL yourself.
I agree with deechte. If the ROM comes "clean" every user can install what's best for him/her (in example, I'm used to SPB mobile shell)
deechte said:
it looks as complicated as Manilla to scroll to the tab you want, which indeed takes to much involvement while driving.
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at least you will get more development, support and upgrade not "take it or leave it"
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Btw, just another reason to have a clean ROM, so you can choose for HHP, Manilla or TL yourself.
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I partially agree with you because TouchFlo 2D & 3D needs more tweaks to work perfect which normal user can't do it by self
Ultimately, what I would love would be a custom version of Manilla (or even Throttle launcher) that would enable 2D/3D mode in portrait and then HTC Home (or whatever plug-in you prefer) in landscape.
I really like Manilla2D, I wanted 3D but it didn't work and I had to hard reset my phone by flashing a new (but updated at the same time) ROM to get it to work again.
I would love Manilla2D on any ROMs I get from now on.
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I partially agree with you because TouchFlo 2D & 3D needs more tweaks to work perfect which normal user can't do it by self
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You mean that it works better when it's cooked in the ROM?
Well, I don't mind if it's present, if I could just disable it and enable Htc Home.
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You mean that it works better when it's cooked in the ROM?
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yes, that is what I meant
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Well, I don't mind if it's present, if I could just disable it and enable Htc Home.
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sure you can disable it from Today screen and working as it not present at all in rom, and if you decide that you will not using it at all. you can delete or backup all Manila graphic picture from windows directory to free space in internal storage
I think the biggest issue with windows mobile touch screen phones is its so hard to use it with your fingers because the interface is so tiny. I'm relatively good with Photoshop CS4. So I will be able to skin the whole thing and what not. I was wondering though who is interested to beta test this? Also should I cook it with 6.5 or 6.1? I would say 6.1 for stability issues but I run 6.5 right now its a super fast and not many issues. Also anyone want to help out with this project like be part of the team. Thanks
-TheParadox
*Sorry if Im not allowed to post this mods =\ Just remove is you feel the need*
I'd give it a try when you get it working.
ill test it once its up and running
Alright Awesome Ill put you two down so far xD
I might just change my mind to and make it public but not sure yet.
Count me in. Thanks.
Just gimme the word and I'll help...I'd love to see a nice finger friendly rom. Also, just my opinion but i would like to see a 6.5 build...
Love to try it.
I myself hate using the phone while on the move. Especially the dialer. I'll be dialing one number and the damn thing will be dialing another. If you can setup a finger friendly dialer I'd love it!
You are aware that Shaps is going to release 100% touch rom "soon" ?
http://touchxperience.com/en/home.html
Don't know if u had similar thing in mind.
And it's probably better to cook it with 6.5
Can help with testing if needed.
looking forward to a finger friendly rom
i'll test your ROM
I would like to try this as well
sounds like a good idea (i alwas wished i was better at photoshop). what kind of programs are you going to use to achieve finger-friendliness? also, my recommendation would be to stick to Windows Mobile 6.1 as your base, or 6.1.4, as these are the most stable.
good luck coking
I'm new here, but i would love to be your beta tester. I have experience in Photoshop too..
Let me know if you need my help.
awesome
I am so sick of win.mo's lack of userf riendliness! I will srsly donatea lotta money once the Rom is done/ good/easy to use! anddd I will help testing too...I gotta an at/t tilt. Also...I recommend the following:
Browsers - Opera and Skyfire
GPS- TomTom...very fingerfriendly
Contact- either Yota contact or Icontact...and get the latest/fastest versions.
Home Screen- cook it such that when u hit the red/end button or hit "today" from startmenu...It goes to the UIprogram not default win.mo. homescreen. I reccomend either pointUI or a touchwiz theme or something.
Programs menu- cook it such that when u hit "programs" it opens touchlaunch
It'd be awesome if I see as lil of windows as possible. Plzz
Also....find a way/program that hides the startmenu when in like...the programs menu/etc....or a cool ap that when mapped to a hardwar button QUICLYm minimizes the windows startbar.
lastly ...I think we should base it off a phone...like completely iphone style - ifonz or a poseoff + icontact + s2p + s2u +s2v
orrr based on the omnia! with widgets ands hit. Make
as lil windowsmobile as possible!
Alright everyone sounds like a plan. I need suggestions for some things...I would like to make it native without a bunch of background software. Ill make a 6.1 version then if it succeeds ill cook a 6.5 version.
(Sorry for my slow reply =\ Got distracted by fall out 3. xD)
skadamat said:
I am so sick of win.mo's lack of userf riendliness! I will srsly donatea lotta money once the Rom is done/ good/easy to use! anddd I will help testing too...I gotta an at/t tilt. Also...I recommend the following:
Browsers - Opera and Skyfire
GPS- TomTom...very fingerfriendly
Contact- either Yota contact or Icontact...and get the latest/fastest versions.
Home Screen- cook it such that when u hit the red/end button or hit "today" from startmenu...It goes to the UIprogram not default win.mo. homescreen. I reccomend either pointUI or a touchwiz theme or something.
Programs menu- cook it such that when u hit "programs" it opens touchlaunch
It'd be awesome if I see as lil of windows as possible. Plzz
Also....find a way/program that hides the startmenu when in like...the programs menu/etc....or a cool ap that when mapped to a hardwar button QUICLYm minimizes the windows startbar.
lastly ...I think we should base it off a phone...like completely iphone style - ifonz or a poseoff + icontact + s2p + s2u +s2v
orrr based on the omnia! with widgets ands hit. Make
as lil windowsmobile as possible!
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Sounds like you need SPB Mobile Shell. It is pretty much exactly what you just described.
TheParadox said:
Alright everyone sounds like a plan. I need suggestions for some things...I would like to make it native without a bunch of background software. Ill make a 6.1 version then if it succeeds ill cook a 6.5 version.
(Sorry for my slow reply =\ Got distracted by fall out 3. xD)
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Suggestions- throw in Remote Tracker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203
Also the video share from AT&T. I don't think there are any cooked ROMS that support it yet, but the AT&T stock ROM has it built in.
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/media-entertainment/video-share-faqs.jsp
Some other cool things to throw in- an instant messenger (maybe 2- one that uses SMS like Oz and one that uses data like Palringo), Windows Live (for the email), Smiley SMS, an RSS reader, an ebook reader, a stop watch/timer, a bunch of games, livecast and/or qik... Nobody ever puts these in their ROMs for some reason...
Ill throw in palringo it rocks at IM. Has most all the networks fast and looks nice. =] Alright ill add all those. Ill work on this today as I have time off of school as its a half day.
Resco Utilities are a must-have (explorer, contacts)
I made this threat for a guide about cooked ROMs on xda-developers, so the cooked ROMs lover have a guide which ROMs is suitable for them, there is no purpose to compare the ROM, which is best or bad one, once again this is just a little guide abiout the ROMs
like me, first i use ELITE RC3 for my raphael, i really like this ROM, very stable and fast, but the only thing i don't lik eis can't block with my stylush.
and then i upgrade to ELITE RC4, everything great, very stable and fast,have some bug for first but it's was fix by elite team.
and then i try NRG 3.0 magic, acctually this ROM is great but there is problem with S2U software, not suitable for me, and then i back to ELITE RC4 again
just a gfew days ago,i try NRG 3.0 warhawk, until now i think it's still great, did not find any bug yet, unless i can't set same picture for the backround for all tab at TF3D, but that's not a big deal i think
i wait for your experience too
can you all share yours
u shud try tpc v3...i bet u gonna love it...
I like NATFs ROMs as well as Energy ROMs.
Eventhough NATF has swinched to 6.5 cooking, he still has a pretty stable 6.1 ROM out as well.
I like quite clean roms, with stock WM and stock manila 2.1.
without strange customizations like iphone icons in start menu, customs topbar, custom splashscreens etc..
and it seems impossible to find a wm6.5 rom like that. too bad, was ready to donate to have something clean.
NRG 3.0 warhawk is working great for me have had the recent one since it came out and haven't had any issues,
excilion said:
I like quite clean roms, with stock WM and stock manila 2.1.
without strange customizations like iphone icons in start menu, customs topbar, custom splashscreens etc..
and it seems impossible to find a wm6.5 rom like that. too bad, was ready to donate to have something clean.
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you can take this one and ad the manila 2.1 cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551337
quote from Da_G:
"OK, so i've been working on rebuilding imgfstools from scratch to allow things like uncompressed ROM's, image update, and all that jazz...
This is a barebones stock WM 6.5.x ROM running 23034,
ImageUpdate is currently broken on it (I broke ULDR somehow, working on that!)
But i'd like you guys to try the ROM out (being uncompressed and whatnot) and let me know how it runs. Note that when I say barebones stock, I mean it It's got a comm manager, the camera app, and that's pretty much it
But it should be nice and fast!"
I would like one that is essentially the same as the current stock Fuze ROM from HTC, except with Win 6.5 instead of 6.1.
I wouldn't mind if the trial apps/games were missing from it but it wouldn't matter to me if they're in it. Aside from them, however, I would like everything else that comes with the the standard HTC ROM.
Any suggestions which ROM is the closest to what I want?
Thanks.
All Energy roms work like a charm... the best of the best... too bad NRG switch to TP2.... been waiting impatiently for another great rom... latest Aug 11 (warhack) ... no doubt the best ...
Forever022 said:
All Energy roms work like a charm... the best of the best... too bad NRG switch to TP2.... been waiting impatiently for another great rom... latest Aug 11 (warhack) ... no doubt the best ...
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I looked at that but I am not sure it's what I want (unless I am reading something incorrectly). I want only the version of Windows to be different from the stock HTC Fuze ROM.
I wouldn't mind if the trial apps that come with it are missing but that's not important to me either way. What is important is that I'd rather not have any non-standard items (such as apps, skins, dialers, keyboards) or tweaks because I do all that stuff myself and I don't want to waste any extra time figuring out what someone else did differently.
Thanks.
Raphael ROM with manila 2.5
Has anyone try to use Manila 2.5 ? If yes which ROM have Manila 2.5 ? and is it stable or not ? have any issue ?
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Has anyone try to use Manila 2.5 ? If yes which ROM have Manila 2.5 ? and is it stable or not ? have any issue ?
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There is no complete port of 2.5 yet. There is a beta rom that I think uses it HERE
I like NRG rom...
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Has anyone try to use Manila 2.5 ? If yes which ROM have Manila 2.5 ? and is it stable or not ? have any issue ?
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I've tried it and it is too buggy for my taste. Like zelendel said
There is no complete port of 2.5 yet
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but you can give it a try. If you like stability like you mentioned in your earlier posts, you won't like it. Wait for the full port.
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I have tried all ROM listed in the forum & keep trying every time there is a new one. "Burning my Touch Pro - hahah".
I just try Manila 2.5 today from CM-XOR Pro 1.3_Final, so far it's ok except u have to install KbdFix (to fix the keyboard FN issue). Other than that it is ok. A bit slow thou. Nothing much in the manila 2.5. Mayb more on cosmetic & GUI. One big issue for me, the prog icon is not organize (Genesis is better). All over the screen in "start". I try using "reStart" to organize....not so responsive... so forget it.
Other than that its a god ROM for people who like the "wow" factor on the looks of the UI.
Check out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493657
Personally i like a clean EnergyRom Genesis 20/9/09. Full of stuff & no bugs so far, except no Ezinput. (i install myself)+touch respond, to add the most. (hopefully EnergyRom can add "lower task bar" with the "start" & "ok" buttom rather than at the top.)
Other than these two you can try "ExquisiteV3.1_1/10/09". Not bad. I love the "lower task bar" which is very usefull for Touchpro as the screen & body is small. With normal task bar, its very diff to touch the "start" & "ok" button at the top.
Here are my best list (all tested)
EnergyROM-Genesis
EnergyROM-Warhawk
Arkl_V1.2
ChaMuze
Exquisite
CM-Xor-full version
I am waiting for;
Intellirom-Alpha Manila 2.5
Sun-CM team manila 2.5 VGA
Which i m sure when they r goin to release it.
Happy trying......
excilion said:
I like quite clean roms, with stock WM and stock manila 2.1.
without strange customizations like iphone icons in start menu, customs topbar, custom splashscreens etc..
and it seems impossible to find a wm6.5 rom like that. too bad, was ready to donate to have something clean.
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I am looking for the same thing Stock WM and Stock Manilla with updated HTC Appz. No more than that, just an updated stock rom with new packages. Seems that everybody want to put its "touch" the closest to that was Elite Roms however it seems that their development is freeze
I like RRE 6.1 version rom , works great fast also , no issues from past 6-7 months.
ROMS
If you want a simple ROM try Tael Rom v2.23049. Simple & tweak.
Josh's Dark Fusion
TPC Elite
These are my top two picks.
Titanium. A must for me.
I switched from cricket on titan for a year, and the tp for 6 months. I ran every 6.5 rom for the pro and found lots of things I would like to see an 1 rom.
My fav is NRG. Warhawk was great, genesis did something to my cricket phone. After running it for 2 days my screen started to black out, or the images would mix up. Figured it was me flashing many roms a day and making them all work for cricket.
I bought a NIB pro from sprint and switched service, left stock and locked for 2 days, then flashed genesis and after 10 min on my phone it blacked out the screen. First thing I did was norten scan my sd card. 1 infection found and fixed. Flashed back to stock and phone was ok. Next day I put genesis back on, and black screen issue again. It is back to stock and locked. Not happy with 6.1 but it is a stable rom.
I would love a rom that is titanium with all tabs, cprogram launcher, cweather, contacts, opera, internet favs, and not have to add. Chome editor adding cweather give the tab, but it is all blank with a red X for each day icon. Start menu with all the awesome Icon categories like NRG. No honeycombs. I like all most all the progams from stock sprint rom, and NRG roms like prl update. Adobe pdf, a flashplayer that actually loads images in websites. Flashlite 3.1 don't work, nor flash7 ppc with activeX. Websites show install flash player icon, but not sure which or how to get current for ppc. would like touch pro tweaks from nrg, the wifi router from nrg, a calander from manila that actually shows a calendar. IE from nrg but not the recent builds opera as it shows as a mobile browser in most the sites i visit and puts the m in the beginning of urls. Recent core player, and full screen media player.
I have spent lots of time on ppcgeeks, and little here. I came here looking for a new rom.
Start and ok in task bar above screen. But that changed in build 23034 or 37 iirc.
not a cook, but would love to see a sprint rom close to what i discribed. Just my opinion. CDMA
izas said:
If you want a simple ROM try Tael Rom v2.23049. Simple & tweak.
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I'm currently trying it, and I think I'll agree.
Except for the custom boot screen, everything is what I was searching for.
Okay guys & gals,
Just thought I'd start a topic about our Today Screen.
I love a good launcher program (which I believe is simply what a today screen is). It took me a while to get to like WM6.5, but I do now. The disadvantage is that I still have to press my Start Menu for other apps... and for 64MB Uni's the disadvantage is only too obvious.
I hope you don't mind me quoting, but this is what started me thinking...
gewin said:
What I would like to do is set the programs screen ie the screen full of icons as the default when you start up the Universal. One less step and simpler for the end user.
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phezthie said:
home screen plus is what yu need, i guess....
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Yeah, oh for a simple Today Screen. I'm with you there.
Why do we have one method of accessing our apps on the Today screen, and yet another from the Start menu. (And for me a third when I want to choose a game to play).
I suppose nobody has come up with something that everyone agrees on!
Hence we have such platforms as Android, maybe.
As phezthie says, HomeScreen PlusPlus is a cool app. However, if you can't find a theme that someone has made that you like, you must be willing to write a script. Personally I love this app, but spend too much time tweaking my scripts! Ouch
Another one is ThrottleLauncher. A lovely graphic approach, but a bit heavy/slow and a few bugs. Very easy to set up, though... but perhaps more of an interest with 128MB devices and maybe a little restricted.
Anyone got a great Today Screen or Launcher they think others would like?
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Hi Jonny
Interesting thread indeed
I used for a long time HTC Home large VGA by pj07 and I was very satified as I had all I needed on that home screen.
Now I´m using titanium but I´m agree with your comments above.
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Cheers,
I use Titanium too and its going pretty well for my needs till now.This his a good idea.
Hello thank you for starting this thread,as i am obsessed lately with this subject. I tried EVERYTHING that i could find,and so far,on my 64 MB uni,i can say only that i managed to find NOTHING in my taste.
Throttle launcher is awesome but no way it can work on my device,buggy and extremely slow,same as Pointui Home 2, with the POINTSENSE suite 2.0.0.6 looks awesome but useless on my device. For everyone with a 128 MB device i would recommend it,there are many many interesting skins/themes and applets on the Pointui website http://www.pointui.com/
Also,i am waiting for a new or fixed version of Touch Shell Pro ,which looks promising also,has some nice skins too, version now is 1.1.0.17,but has too many issues still,on my UNI at least.
http://www.touch-shell.com/
Also i tried FEWidgets Ultimate,again nice idea but too slow on my UNI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544874
There is now also this Sense UI Theme for FEWidgets Ultimate.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sense-ui-theme-for-fewidgets-ultimate.html
As for launchers,i tried plenty,most of them too slow ofc,the nicer ones
Easy Today Launcher is a nice today plugin,you can combine it with some others to make a nice today screen also :
http://www.loffactory.webs.com/
MyAction is a nice launcher you can pick up here versions 1.1 and new 2.0 :
http://www.8080.pl/
This one looks real nice but was way too slow on my 64 mb - Touchlaunch :
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-touchlaunch.html
And for last,the best thing i found to be part of my today screen,is a skin for marsware weather panel 2009 - here is the whole thing :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401781
When i get time i will put some more up,when i remember them,i really tried a lot of things out. And i really really wish that my UNI has 128 MB
I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
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Jonny
Thanks for starting this thread. I have also played with a number of the Today screen graphical setup programs, some are quite good. However, since upgrading to 6.5 I quite like the standard program screen that comes up when you select start.
My question is why do we need any of these today screen programs, when the icons and screen are already there. We really don't want to add any more complexity to the setup or anything else to use up precious memory.
I originally asked the question to see if there was just a way of bypassing the today screen altogether, so that the standard program screen came up by default.
Now thanks to you we have the collective minds thinking about it.
@gewin:
I actually got your idea. But couldn't find the function OS calls (@shell32.exe) when you hit on start menu.
Once we get then it is just the easy part....
I use SPB Pocket Plus, because it can handle other today plugins in different tabs. And it runs quickly on UNI64...
Thanks guys, this has been very informative. Especially to PalDragon for all the review... I'm going to give some of those a try. Cheers. What do others think?
MyAction - I found I didn't like. It looks ok if you use all the icons, otherwise you have half a screen full of blue +'s. I would prefer slide to screen, rather than use of a Prev/Next button. You also need to add all the apps yourself, it wasn't self-populating.
TouchLaunch - like. However only 1 item per line means a lot of scrolling, and the scrolling can be quite slow. Nice that you can make categories. Latest version here. Smooth (on my 128MB Uni)
EasyToday Launcher - @gewin, this is what you want! It's not self-populating, but I do like it. And as PalDragon pointed out, you can add other Today items with it, if you wish.
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I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
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i completely agree, its not free though but worth it...
Hi Jonny.. can you please attache some pics of your today screen if you haven't yet, I use HTC Home its got all i need even wheather, Messaging etc... But i wonder if its possible to add some applications to the wm6.5 on that cool up down slide. This made me stop using HTC Home but now i have some app's missing on my today.
my today screen is unintersting. I use WM6.5 'Ron Arad Orange' with CHome editor* for my apps (piccy1). I used to have weather plugin* but this seemed to make my GPS navigation freeze intermittently. I use QuickMenu* for my task switcher (piccy2) and iReflect icons* in my start menu (piccy3) with honeycomb start menu*. (Also, once used ATContacts widget*).
However I am still looking for a good 'app launcher' for games. I use fexploreext* set to 'Icon View' (see piccy4&5). Sadly fexploreext doesn't seem to work in WM6.5.1
I did once create a HomeScreen++ theme* for back when it was BatteryStatus, but haven't kept it up to date. It also had weather. The funny thing about weather widgets is that whenever I want to look at the forecast, I always want to update it ... so it seemed reasonable to stick with weather from an internet page! (perhaps because in UK weather is so changeable, I don't know!)
however, I am beginning to like SPB Mobile Shell (unsure how long the trial is for). What themes are people using? enigma1nz? phezthie?
FEWidgets and throttlelauncher seem similar, but a poor mans copy?
*if you want any of these files, just PM me.
spb mobile shell is really impressive and powerful (the latest is v3.5), ive been using ms v2 since tomal's 8.5. however, based from my experience, v3.5 is not advisable using tomal's wm6.5 roms (v9 & 10) due to slow response and occasional freeze. same with other wm6.5 cooked roms i tried, the reason why ram upgrade is imperative, at least for me, to enjoy the latest rom with latest spb.
off course, another solution i think is if our great uni rom chefs will always consider releasing vanilla of their great work...
UltimateLaunch
http://www.ultimatelaunch.de/index_en.html
Setup is a bit of a hassle (I've been messing around in Android, so a lot of Windows Mobile/Phone stuff seems more complex to customize), but if you're willing to put in the time, it's a rock solid-app and can customize to a T. It's also the least memory-hungry of what I've tried.
The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't accommodate rotation very well unless you count out pixels and just set it up so that in landscape it looks good even though the bottom of your screen is cut off.
I've tried Lakeridge (think Titanic, flashy, but *will* crash), ThrottleLauncher, Win6.5, SPB, SBSH. I keep coming back to this.
I used most of the GI app there and i liked WAD2. and i used with my custom theme when i was in wm 6.1, now with 6.5 due to memory issue i can not run it. so i'm using titanium with some customization.... see pic's below...
Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
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Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Thanx a lot Guyz...
i envy you mate
phezthie said:
i envy you mate
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He he
common guys no comment on titanium ....
I am a very satisfied user of my Verizon TP2 (stock rom). It is by far the best phone I've owned.
I was wondering, as I wait for Verizon to release WinMo 6.5, what improvements might I anticipate with this new version? Will there be anything earth shattering or significant?
I just didn't want to be checking the boards everyday, waiting for something that really isn't worth drooling over!
Thanks for your thoughts!
From my experience it benefit you by more eye candies and being exponentially slower. Ofcourse, it will use Sense 2.5 which has more graphic than 2.1. Such as the weather effect on over the entire Today screen.
The organization is strange, the icons are displayed in zigzag order which makes no sense and difficult to navigate. The one thing I like is in file explorer you can select multiple files at once. There are more specific things, but since it is slower and take up more space it is not more practical for me as I do not masturbate to my cellphone. Personally if I was to use 6.5, then I would get a custom rom that has 6.5.5, but with Sense 2.1, such as Calkulin's roms.
WAR_GA said:
I am a very satisfied user of my Verizon TP2 (stock rom). It is by far the best phone I've owned.
I was wondering, as I wait for Verizon to release WinMo 6.5, what improvements might I anticipate with this new version? Will there be anything earth shattering or significant?
I just didn't want to be checking the boards everyday, waiting for something that really isn't worth drooling over!
Thanks for your thoughts!
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eksasol said:
From my experience it benefit you by more eye candies and being exponentially slower. Ofcourse, it will use Sense 2.5 which has more graphic than 2.1. Such as the weather effect on over the entire Today screen.
The organization is strange, the icons are displayed in zigzag order which makes no sense and difficult to navigate. The one thing I like is in file explorer you can select multiple files at once. There are more specific things, but since it is slower and take up more space it is not more practical for me as I do not masturbate to my cellphone. Personally if I was to use 6.5, then I would get a custom rom that has 6.5.5, but with Sense 2.1, such as Calkulin's roms.
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False. Currently, only the HTC Leo (HD2) will officially run with Sense 2.5. The Rhodium will still (at least for now) officially have Sense 2.1. The current stock ROMs contains TouchFlo3D 2.0 (Manila 2.0; neither Manila 2.1 nor Manila 2.5).
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It's true it's simply eye candy, but it's also finger-friendliness. The "zigzag order" or "honeycomb" layout is initially confusing, but after running WM6.5 since September, I like it and it's definitely finger friendly. Nevertheless, there is a tweak to disable the honeycomb layout, and turns it into a vertical list layout.
Also, as you get deeper into WM6.5 (where there is no Manila integration), in menus such as Sounds & Notifications, there's definitely a more rounded (better looking) appearance to the whole interface. Moreover, you can swipe left and right to access the other "tabs" that you have in WM6.1.
However, I do agree that a custom ROM with WM6.5.x is definitely a worthy upgrade from WM6.1. It's much easier to navigate with the Start button and other navigation controls at the bottom of the screen.
I'm a big fan of the new lock screen since you can just slide to unlock rather than press two different screen areas. It also shows your calendar appointments which is pretty awesome.
I don't like how settings are organized since it can be a pita to find something specific and you have to go back/forth through the menus. And sms/mms can pretty much lock up my phone it's so slow, but really it was like that on 6.1 too so I dunno. Overall it's graphically much nicer, but slower so I kinda hate it.
ps I'm on the latest Mighty Rom w/o sense.
Finger friendlier menus and better arrangement. I use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3 and think Manila (Sense or whatever) is too painful to use. With this setup my Touch Pro 2 flies so don't believe that 6.5 is just slow......Its not.
Agree
More finger friendly, nicer UI!!
Don´t forget to vote for Rhodium!!
WEll
in 6.5 can you reorder your PROGRAMS screen? is there a way to do this in 6.1??? I have to remove icons and add them aagin in the proper space to organize them...
dahauss said:
in 6.5 can you reorder your PROGRAMS screen? is there a way to do this in 6.1??? I have to remove icons and add them aagin in the proper space to organize them...
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Depending on the ROM you get, you can press/hold on an icon, and drag to wherever you want. In other ROMs (probably like the stock ROM, not sure) you press/hold on an icon, and you can only let it go to the very top of the start menu.
WAR_GA said:
I am a very satisfied user of my Verizon TP2 (stock rom). It is by far the best phone I've owned.
I was wondering, as I wait for Verizon to release WinMo 6.5, what improvements might I anticipate with this new version? Will there be anything earth shattering or significant?
I just didn't want to be checking the boards everyday, waiting for something that really isn't worth drooling over!
Thanks for your thoughts!
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More eye candy, just this
I loved the eye candy -- but did not like how fast my battery drained and lockups that required me to hit the reset button because the phone would not "wake up" no matter what button I pushed. I'm back to 6.1 but carefully looking though the custom roms with 6.5 before deciding to jump in.
sunNsnow said:
I loved the eye candy -- but did not like how fast my battery drained and lockups that required me to hit the reset button because the phone would not "wake up" no matter what button I pushed. I'm back to 6.1 but carefully looking though the custom roms with 6.5 before deciding to jump in.
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Guessing you had the same problem I was having:
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Here's a video of my problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4QfRyUuhkA
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I did a hard reset and haven't had it happen to me again.
Videos play smoother
Noticed two big things other than appearance... Bluetooth now hangs up correctly, and 2, videos play smoothly without having to disable bluetooth.
Two big improvement that now put 6.5 back in the same playing field as the TP I with 6.1...
-Sheldon