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Really scared of TouchFLO

I don't know much about TouchFLO and how much resources it would take up if I use it. I wanna cook it into a ROM but I... well... I just don't know if it's really worth it.
I'm using Slide2Unlock, ContactsManager, iPhone Lookalike, and even the iPhone_en phone skin. I'm doing this to prove to friends that you don't really need an iPhone to really get the awesome feeling.
So basically, TouchFLO is the last frontier (for now I guess). So guys, give me some feedback on resources, looks, feels, and what I should embrace or get ready for...
... I'm scared...

I have a Touch. All the TouchFLO apps are loaded at start up via \Windows\Startup and stay resident:
- biotouch.exe (behind-the-scenes app to activate/deactivate cube)
- APlauncher.exe (face of the cube that launches apps)
- MediaHubMini.exe (face of the cube that launches media apps/folders)
- QuickDial.exe (face of the cube for picture dialling)
I haven't done any tests on how much memory they use up, but odds-on it's a fair old whack. The UI seems to come up fairly quickly when I smear my thumb up the screen, so I'm guessing that they've tweaked the priority of the processes up a fair bit.
On the plus side, if it can run on a 201MHz OMAP, it can pretty much run on anything!

carlosp_uk said:
I have a Touch. All the TouchFLO apps are loaded at start up via \Windows\Startup and stay resident:
- biotouch.exe (behind-the-scenes app to activate/deactivate cube)
- APlauncher.exe (face of the cube that launches apps)
- MediaHubMini.exe (face of the cube that launches media apps/folders)
- QuickDial.exe (face of the cube for picture dialling)
I haven't done any tests on how much memory they use up, but odds-on it's a fair old whack. The UI seems to come up fairly quickly when I smear my thumb up the screen, so I'm guessing that they've tweaked the priority of the processes up a fair bit.
On the plus side, if it can run on a 201MHz OMAP, it can pretty much run on anything!
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True. No offense meant mate, but 201Meg OMAPs are rather slow. Most other procs out there are faster, if not MUCH faster. However, some devices are still having difficulty porting the finger gestures. Zephus mate, what device are you using?

my apologies. Your using an 8125. Didn't notice that

Just remember the HTC Touch uses the 200M OMAP processor.

Well then doesn't seem like there would be much of a problem with overclocking a Wizard to >200. But I'm not really looking to use the cube, rather I just want to use finger scrolling and such around other pages. I believe TouchFLO allows that (I could be wrong...) but I'll try the cube anyway.

zephus said:
Well then doesn't seem like there would be much of a problem with overclocking a Wizard to >200. But I'm not really looking to use the cube, rather I just want to use finger scrolling and such around other pages. I believe TouchFLO allows that (I could be wrong...) but I'll try the cube anyway.
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No siree. the finger scrolling is controlled by the touch.dll file in the windows folder. I am attaching it here, throw it in your windows folder and see if it works. if it doesnt, install the 4 exes and that should work but you do need touch.dll
as for the cube, I have a 8125 and the cubeis a bit laggy at reg speeds but if you use the dynamic oc from batterystatus ext and set to 247, the cube flows like it does on the touch.
let me figure out how to attach a file and youll have it in a second.

heres the touch.cab so you can install the whole package at once

and just the dll, throw it in your windows folder before you install the cab, soft reset and see if the scrolling starts working. if not, install the cab

Now scared of overwriting touch.
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and just the dll, throw it in your windows folder before you install the cab, soft reset and see if the scrolling starts working. if not, install the cab
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Well actually, I just can't seem to overwrite it just yet, not until I use Total Commander, but thanks though. This seems helpful to at least try it out until I cook it.

Yeah, touch.dll killed my screen on my Wizard. Had to "Clear Storage" to get it back up again. And the .cab with TouchFLO didn't contain the cube unfortunately. Oh well...
I'll just cook it as an experiment. Face my fears.

usually with activesync you can overwrite but if you got it workin there you go

Internet Explorer touch-scroll very sticky/choppy

I've had my Orbit 2 for one day and find internet explorer unusable, so much that I'm considering sending it back and staying with my hermes/tytn/Orange M3100. The touch scroll/flow is very very sticky and slow.
On my hermes I have SPB Pocket Plus installed with the 'Smart Scrolling' feature on. With this, Internet Explorer finger-scrolling down web pages is super-smooth and fast.
I installed SPB Pocket Plus on my Orbit 2 thinking this would sort the problem out but when installed on the Orbit 2 the Smart Scrolling feature is missing (!?)
I really don't want to send the phone back, so any help with resolving this issue would be very much appreciated.

Please.... This has already been posted so often! Why don't you simply use the search function?
I'll give you one hint, however: ie_slow_scroll_fix.cab

sorry, I did search but didn't find that cab. thanks for the pointer!
I've installed it and scrolling is much improved, but still nowhere near as good as om my hermes with SPB Pocket plus installed with the Smart Scrolling feature.
Does anyone know why the Smart Scrolling feature of SPB Pocket plus isn't available when installed on the polaris (Orbit 2)?

try disabling htc's touchflo 1st?

It appears SBP PP's Smart Scrolling is not compatible with any TouchFlo device. I suppose thats a good enough reason for a little donation to support the chefs with their cooking of a TouchFlo + SPB Smart Scrolling compatible rom.

also u can try PIE for windows 6.1

Why not install the new Netfront Browser 3.5? It's got a really smooth scrooling function combined with tabbed browsing and the zoom-out function (like Opera mini). And it's free until May 31, so you won't have to worry anymore for the next three months.
The IE_slow_scroll_fix.cab, however, made scrolling perfectly smooth on my device. I don't think it could be much better. So perhaps you try to do a hard reset and then install it first or uninstall SPB and then install the cab? It should work almost perfectly...

Think TouchFlo + SPB Smart Scrolling compatible is impossible. You'd have to choose one. That's why I'd rather use SPB which at least comes with updates for bugs.

I agree with maati:
Install Netfront. Maybe till end of May HTC has released a new rom where the bug is fixed.

This worked for me

try this one also.. PIE for WM6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69019&d=1202193751

Guys, thanks for the suggestions!
I already have Netfont Browser 3.5 installed, and it has a very nice 'action'. Is there any way to get it to scale down the web page to a column like Internet Explorer does?
I've just tried Pocket Internet Explorer for WM6.1 (Thanks for the link alipi2007) and running this along with the IE_Slow_Scroll_Fix cab seems to do a better job.
However, let me give you an example to decribe the issue I still have:
When using the Polaris to view the index of this forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php), I flick my thumb from the bottom of the Polaris screen to the top three times in quick succession - the screen scrolls and halts at the picture of the Wallaby handset.
Now, when I do the same on my Hermes running SPB Pocket Plus with Smart Scrolling, this three flicks of my thumb up the screen takes me down to the picture of the Vogue.
Quite some difference, don't you agree?
It's this speed of navigation and fluidity that I need on my Polaris.

Home Screen Plugin

Hi All,
I am looking for a Home Screen Plugin for my Flint.
I have seen many nice looking ROMs but I do not want to flash the ROM until the device is out of warranty!
I am just looking for a nice home/today screen!
I am also looking for a nice little app like the old battery status!
I had this on my old XDA Orbit, which displayed Battery charge and signal strength in %, and memory card info, as well as CPU temp and also had an overclock facility too! I had my standard Orbit (201Mhz) overclocked and running very nicely and stable at 299Mhz!
Also if there is anything else anyone recommends throwing into the mix then please do so!
Many thanks
Alex

check your email
i have shell 3.i will try an send it to you if it loads on email

I use iFonz2 which is an iphonelike shell and I love it. Luckily you can configure it to be quite unlike iphone in appearance, because I don't want to look like an iphone wannabe. I just want the wonderful functionality. I'ts free and you can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482986

I can second SPB Mobile shell 3, I use it on my Flint and it looks great - and is very customisable. Check out the forum on SPB for some useful aditions such as widgets for VGA screens.

thintin said:
I can second SPB Mobile shell 3, I use it on my Flint and it looks great - and is very customisable. Check out the forum on SPB for some useful aditions such as widgets for VGA screens.
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I did try try SPB Mobile Shell 3 - I wasn't that impressed! It didn't run very well!
It was slow and jerky, not smooth! - Is that how it is or do I need to tweak some setting somewhere to make it run better?

I installed it and it worked fine. No setting changes, no jerking, no delays. I did add the VGA widgets and a few other mods from the SPB forum, but it didn't alter the performance. Perhaps it's the ROM you're using, or other apps you have installed? Although I have do also Wisbar adv3 running and eveything is still OK. My partner has SPB MS3 on her XDA stella and it runs even smoother and quicker than it does on my Flint, but I wouldn't describe mine as slow or jerky. Hope this ramble helps

I've just re-installed it, but its still slow and jerky when rotating between screens!
Anyone have any ideas??

hippy999 said:
I've just re-installed it, but its still slow and jerky when rotating between screens!
Anyone have any ideas??
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Screen rotation with Spb MS3 is a known issue. Are you using the latest version- Spb did some work to improve it, but its still slow.
How do you find the screen transitions if you stay in the same orientation? For me they were fast and smooth, though I've stopped using any shell programs now due to their memory usage.

NeilM said:
Screen rotation with Spb MS3 is a known issue. Are you using the latest version- Spb did some work to improve it, but its still slow.
How do you find the screen transitions if you stay in the same orientation? For me they were fast and smooth, though I've stopped using any shell programs now due to their memory usage.
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I believe it was the latest version!
If I'm honest I really didn't like it!
I just migrated from a Tytn2 running Athine OS Manilla Edition (TF2D)
I was really impressed with it! It was quick, smooth and easy to use!
Thats what I am really looking for on my XDA Flint, but I don't want to move away from the standard ROM until the device is out of warranty!

I'd normally say go for broke with a new ROM as there are tools around to restore the SPL and OS to the release version, but as the O2 ROM is pretty similar to cooked ROMs in terms of performance I'd agree with you.
What to you actually want from a Home Screen?
I've now reverted to the standard WinMo home screen with whichever standard plug-ins I want, plus SBP Weather and Chronos alarm. On top of that I'm now using LaunchPad from Panoramic Software which can take over the Start button, or a softkey, and which opens up a full screen icon grid of 'links' to programs, settings or files.
I've reviewed it Here; not a Home screen, but does the job for me

hippy999 said:
I believe it was the latest version!
If I'm honest I really didn't like it!
I just migrated from a Tytn2 running Athine OS Manilla Edition (TF2D)
I was really impressed with it! It was quick, smooth and easy to use!
Thats what I am really looking for on my XDA Flint, but I don't want to move away from the standard ROM until the device is out of warranty!
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Have you considered TF2D on your Flint, not 100% perfect has a few niggles but fairly responsive on my X7510. see here for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224

Wimo 6.1 Compare 6.5 (survey)

Which one u feel better. wimo 6.1 or 6.5??? (doing survey)
After i try both, i still feel 6.1 suit me.
Reply me with two answer
1)Which u feel better, reason?
2)Which rom r u using now.
Thank.

I like 6.5 better.
1) I liked TF3D, but Titanium does all the same stuff for me and is much lighter on resources.
2) Even though the start menu is a little slower, I still like it better than the older versions.
3) I like the scrolling menus, I don't have to use the stylus as much.
4) With the recent builds, its getting up to the speed of 6.1.
I'm using RRE v3.

6.5 for me
speed is better, start menu is better, scrolling is better
and you can still use tf3d especially rhodium version you lose nothing by upgrading

I hate 6.5 start menu. I kinda like the 6.1 menu and link to programs/settings, with my shortcut list.
I've also had some compatibility issues with 6.5.

6.5 here. I like the Chome/Titanium interface better than touchflo3d.
Screen refreshes faster.

I've noticed that all the wm6.5 roms I've tried, seem to bug after time. The bug I'm talking about is the messaging slowing down in response after time. It seems like it's because there are more messages. Is this a wm6.5 bug?
1. I like wm6.5's speed. It seems to lag less, but overall max performance is the same I think (not tested using any speed test)
2. I'm currently using RREs 6.5 rom v5

Im starting to like 6.5. The speed and stability of the rom im using (rre) is winning me over. The start menu is the only thing i dont like, but everything else is good to go, at least for me

Love 6.5...............BUT going with 6.1 since some software (medical) isn't supported yet on 6.5 (epocrates specifically - at least, without losing autoupdate feature)....
Once that is taken care of, back to 6.5 for me. Loved the speed and the menu actually.

I wasn't much of a fan of 6.5 but I decided to geive Energy 3.0 Phoenix a swing and so far it is going well. I think that ROM brought me over. I will try RRE some time later since I was using RRE 5.8 before and it is still my favourite 6.1.

You can install QuickMenu and just make sure it's not set to replace the start menu. Then get the best of both worlds.

6.5, IMO.

6.5, primarily due to the native slide-to-unlock screen... I had problems with 3rd party solutions. The 6.5 app is all I need, no more, no less and it just works. I prefer the new menus as well... they are a little more finger friendly.
But I still prefer TF3D over titanium.

I tested 6.5 and it's ok but I hate new start menu.
Menus works perfect - I really like it.

IMHO i would say 6.5, it is alot more finger friendly, battery usage and speed are about the same for me.

1) For me 6.5 is way better, everything looks nicer and scrolling is soooo much smoother... New start menu (without Honeycomb) is so nice and smooth... Still like TF3D2 better then Chrome, it reserves more space for the screen selected and provides a better oversight.
2) Using EnergyROM 2009/06/12, it's incredibly stable and FAST

tried 6.5 and hated it, back to 6.1 start menu, "finger friendly" context menus were WAY to big. I bought a vga device to have MORE info per screen, not huge, zoomed in fonts

My Today Screen is the best

Okay guys & gals,
Just thought I'd start a topic about our Today Screen.
I love a good launcher program (which I believe is simply what a today screen is). It took me a while to get to like WM6.5, but I do now. The disadvantage is that I still have to press my Start Menu for other apps... and for 64MB Uni's the disadvantage is only too obvious.
I hope you don't mind me quoting, but this is what started me thinking...
gewin said:
What I would like to do is set the programs screen ie the screen full of icons as the default when you start up the Universal. One less step and simpler for the end user.
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phezthie said:
home screen plus is what yu need, i guess....
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Yeah, oh for a simple Today Screen. I'm with you there.
Why do we have one method of accessing our apps on the Today screen, and yet another from the Start menu. (And for me a third when I want to choose a game to play).
I suppose nobody has come up with something that everyone agrees on!
Hence we have such platforms as Android, maybe.
As phezthie says, HomeScreen PlusPlus is a cool app. However, if you can't find a theme that someone has made that you like, you must be willing to write a script. Personally I love this app, but spend too much time tweaking my scripts! Ouch
Another one is ThrottleLauncher. A lovely graphic approach, but a bit heavy/slow and a few bugs. Very easy to set up, though... but perhaps more of an interest with 128MB devices and maybe a little restricted.
Anyone got a great Today Screen or Launcher they think others would like?
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Hi Jonny
Interesting thread indeed
I used for a long time HTC Home large VGA by pj07 and I was very satified as I had all I needed on that home screen.
Now I´m using titanium but I´m agree with your comments above.
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Cheers,

I use Titanium too and its going pretty well for my needs till now.This his a good idea.

Hello thank you for starting this thread,as i am obsessed lately with this subject. I tried EVERYTHING that i could find,and so far,on my 64 MB uni,i can say only that i managed to find NOTHING in my taste.
Throttle launcher is awesome but no way it can work on my device,buggy and extremely slow,same as Pointui Home 2, with the POINTSENSE suite 2.0.0.6 looks awesome but useless on my device. For everyone with a 128 MB device i would recommend it,there are many many interesting skins/themes and applets on the Pointui website http://www.pointui.com/
Also,i am waiting for a new or fixed version of Touch Shell Pro ,which looks promising also,has some nice skins too, version now is 1.1.0.17,but has too many issues still,on my UNI at least.
http://www.touch-shell.com/
Also i tried FEWidgets Ultimate,again nice idea but too slow on my UNI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544874
There is now also this Sense UI Theme for FEWidgets Ultimate.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sense-ui-theme-for-fewidgets-ultimate.html
As for launchers,i tried plenty,most of them too slow ofc,the nicer ones
Easy Today Launcher is a nice today plugin,you can combine it with some others to make a nice today screen also :
http://www.loffactory.webs.com/
MyAction is a nice launcher you can pick up here versions 1.1 and new 2.0 :
http://www.8080.pl/
This one looks real nice but was way too slow on my 64 mb - Touchlaunch :
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-touchlaunch.html
And for last,the best thing i found to be part of my today screen,is a skin for marsware weather panel 2009 - here is the whole thing :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401781
When i get time i will put some more up,when i remember them,i really tried a lot of things out. And i really really wish that my UNI has 128 MB

I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.

Complexity
Jonny
Thanks for starting this thread. I have also played with a number of the Today screen graphical setup programs, some are quite good. However, since upgrading to 6.5 I quite like the standard program screen that comes up when you select start.
My question is why do we need any of these today screen programs, when the icons and screen are already there. We really don't want to add any more complexity to the setup or anything else to use up precious memory.
I originally asked the question to see if there was just a way of bypassing the today screen altogether, so that the standard program screen came up by default.
Now thanks to you we have the collective minds thinking about it.

@gewin:
I actually got your idea. But couldn't find the function OS calls (@shell32.exe) when you hit on start menu.
Once we get then it is just the easy part....

I use SPB Pocket Plus, because it can handle other today plugins in different tabs. And it runs quickly on UNI64...

Thanks guys, this has been very informative. Especially to PalDragon for all the review... I'm going to give some of those a try. Cheers. What do others think?
MyAction - I found I didn't like. It looks ok if you use all the icons, otherwise you have half a screen full of blue +'s. I would prefer slide to screen, rather than use of a Prev/Next button. You also need to add all the apps yourself, it wasn't self-populating.
TouchLaunch - like. However only 1 item per line means a lot of scrolling, and the scrolling can be quite slow. Nice that you can make categories. Latest version here. Smooth (on my 128MB Uni)
EasyToday Launcher - @gewin, this is what you want! It's not self-populating, but I do like it. And as PalDragon pointed out, you can add other Today items with it, if you wish.

enigma1nz said:
I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
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i completely agree, its not free though but worth it...

Hi Jonny.. can you please attache some pics of your today screen if you haven't yet, I use HTC Home its got all i need even wheather, Messaging etc... But i wonder if its possible to add some applications to the wm6.5 on that cool up down slide. This made me stop using HTC Home but now i have some app's missing on my today.

my today screen is unintersting. I use WM6.5 'Ron Arad Orange' with CHome editor* for my apps (piccy1). I used to have weather plugin* but this seemed to make my GPS navigation freeze intermittently. I use QuickMenu* for my task switcher (piccy2) and iReflect icons* in my start menu (piccy3) with honeycomb start menu*. (Also, once used ATContacts widget*).
However I am still looking for a good 'app launcher' for games. I use fexploreext* set to 'Icon View' (see piccy4&5). Sadly fexploreext doesn't seem to work in WM6.5.1
I did once create a HomeScreen++ theme* for back when it was BatteryStatus, but haven't kept it up to date. It also had weather. The funny thing about weather widgets is that whenever I want to look at the forecast, I always want to update it ... so it seemed reasonable to stick with weather from an internet page! (perhaps because in UK weather is so changeable, I don't know!)
however, I am beginning to like SPB Mobile Shell (unsure how long the trial is for). What themes are people using? enigma1nz? phezthie?
FEWidgets and throttlelauncher seem similar, but a poor mans copy?
*if you want any of these files, just PM me.

spb mobile shell is really impressive and powerful (the latest is v3.5), ive been using ms v2 since tomal's 8.5. however, based from my experience, v3.5 is not advisable using tomal's wm6.5 roms (v9 & 10) due to slow response and occasional freeze. same with other wm6.5 cooked roms i tried, the reason why ram upgrade is imperative, at least for me, to enjoy the latest rom with latest spb.
off course, another solution i think is if our great uni rom chefs will always consider releasing vanilla of their great work...

UltimateLaunch
http://www.ultimatelaunch.de/index_en.html
Setup is a bit of a hassle (I've been messing around in Android, so a lot of Windows Mobile/Phone stuff seems more complex to customize), but if you're willing to put in the time, it's a rock solid-app and can customize to a T. It's also the least memory-hungry of what I've tried.
The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't accommodate rotation very well unless you count out pixels and just set it up so that in landscape it looks good even though the bottom of your screen is cut off.
I've tried Lakeridge (think Titanic, flashy, but *will* crash), ThrottleLauncher, Win6.5, SPB, SBSH. I keep coming back to this.

I used most of the GI app there and i liked WAD2. and i used with my custom theme when i was in wm 6.1, now with 6.5 due to memory issue i can not run it. so i'm using titanium with some customization.... see pic's below...

Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!

Yes, very nice Jane, mate

orb3000 said:
Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
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Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Thanx a lot Guyz...

i envy you mate

phezthie said:
i envy you mate
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He he
common guys no comment on titanium ....