Hey guys
long story that i wont bore you with but I need to find out a HTC phone that has a normal 5 pin mini-usb slot, uses this for its headphones AND has a break-out cable (3.5mm slot halfway up it for normal headphones).
Can anyone help with this please?
NOTE: I dont want the 11pin ENHANCED mini-usbversion like on the touch-diamond. I want the version with two slanted sides, not one square and one slanted.
I don't think a 5 pin usb could carry audio as well. USB has wires for data+, data-, power+, and power-, and then the audio would need wires for left, right and earth, and another for a mike.
My old wizard had a 5 pin USB, and it had a separate 2.5mm headphone/headset socket.
yeah they can and do, its just the headphones that come with the Acer are S*&t but they do operate over mini-usb.
Thanks though, that probably means the Wizards not setup to pump audio over its mini-usb, i'll avoid that one then
My Uni has it
Thank you. I'll check them out on Ebay
the designers at htc should be clubbed on the head for their enhanced mini usb connector.
3.5mm audio + mini usb - that's what it always should have been.
I cant understand why would you want a standart mini usb if - "standart mini usb" works with "htc enchanted mini usb" --- I personaly have a standart mini usb for my Touch HD to use with PC and enchanted usb for charging it - it doesnt bother me that they are different they both do the same<- or am I missing something?
im just curious!
Lets put a couple of things straight...
1) standard mini-usb absolutely can NOT carry (non-digital) audio, no matter what some people in this thread think/claim. It simply CAN'T BE DONE.
If some device *DOES* have audio over mini-usb plug, then despite its shape, it is NOT USB. I *have* seen devices *misuse* the physical plugs it has.
2) The non-standard plug used by HTC is *fully compatible* with existing USB wires.
3) Because of (1) and (2), there is no use whatsoever for a standard USB plug to be on the device. It simply does not matter that there are extras in the plug.
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Lets put a couple of things straight...
1) standard mini-usb absolutely can NOT carry (non-digital) audio, no matter what some people in this thread think/claim. It simply CAN'T BE DONE.
If some device *DOES* have audio over mini-usb plug, then despite its shape, it is NOT USB. I *have* seen devices *misuse* the physical plugs it has.
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Wow, jump down the throat there.... nice guy obviously.
I can think of a way it can be done ......
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Would you like to also clarify how any of the 3 mini-usb cables (from various sources) work fine with the phone and PC and then can be swapped out for the Acer headset which is through the same mini-usb port? If it was a non-normal port then as you say, its unlikely the other generic cables would work.....
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2) The non-standard plug used by HTC is *fully compatible* with existing USB wires.
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Do you mean an Enhanced USB will fit in a non-enhanced port? I don't have one spare but they are a physicaly diferent shape....
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3) Because of (1) and (2), there is no use whatsoever for a standard USB plug to be on the device. It simply does not matter that there are extras in the plug.
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Agreed (sort of)... just a bit worried that you keep saying "standard" though, you do mean a standard MINI-usb right? But agreed, there is simply no justification for not having a 3.5mm jack .... its madness and a madness not just confined to HTC sadly
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
I cant understand why would you want a standart mini usb if - "standart mini usb" works with "htc enchanted mini usb" --- I personaly have a standart mini usb for my Touch HD to use with PC and enchanted usb for charging it - it doesnt bother me that they are different they both do the same<- or am I missing something?
im just curious!
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I think, if im reading you right, your looking at it the wrong way round
The phone I have has a STANDARD mini usb. I think your saying your phone has an ENHANCED mini usb port (guess that answers the above about them not fitting/fitting). And ENHANCED wont fit in MY STANDARD and the only HTC phones I could find had ENHANCED.
My thinking was that if I could find a HTC that had a 5pin mini-usb, I could try one of those remotes - im getting desperate!
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I think, if im reading you right, your looking at it the wrong way round
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Guess I am!! my english aint perfect and its hard for me to understand this thread with all the technical stuff in it!!!
so youre looking for something like this - http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5mm-Headphone...ries?hash=item3ef2fd81ba&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
but with a standart usb plug, right?
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My Uni has it
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It appears that you use a 3.5mm jack for your audio and not the Mini-usb
I could be wrong as its an old product and the only info I can find is on PDADB. Can any Universal owners confirm this? If it uses a 3.5mm jack for audio then its mini-usb cable is useless to me and I won't bother ordering one.
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
Guess I am!! my english aint perfect and its hard for me to understand this thread with all the technical stuff in it!!!
so youre looking for something like this - http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5mm-Headphone...ries?hash=item3ef2fd81ba&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
but with a standart usb plug, right?
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Yes mate, the 5pin version
I've ordered a couple of 5 pin->3.5mm jacks from ebay but so far the three diferent ones i've ordered haven't worked.
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Yes mate, the 5pin version
I've ordered a couple of 5 pin->3.5mm jacks from ebay but so far the three diferent ones i've ordered haven't worked.
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have you tried some of these :
http://cgi.ebay.com/For-MOTOROLA-V3...ries?hash=item20ac981719&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-USB-to-3-5...ries?hash=item4399494e03&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
spot on mate!
No, i hadnt thought of looking outside the WinMob world at other devices. I'll order one first thing tomorrow when i'm back at work.... fingers crossed and thank you!!!
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spot on mate!
No, i hadnt thought of looking outside the WinMob world at other devices. I'll order one first thing tomorrow when i'm back at work.... fingers crossed and thank you!!!
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Youre welcome, just check out the prices- maybe you can find the same thing only cheaper-- this was just a search for the right usb not price!!!
when you receive them- tell us did they work!
Good Luck
Monty Burns said:
It appears that you use a 3.5mm jack for your audio and not the Mini-usb
I could be wrong as its an old product and the only info I can find is on PDADB. Can any Universal owners confirm this? If it uses a 3.5mm jack for audio then its mini-usb cable is useless to me and I won't bother ordering one.
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Yes, you are right
I´m sorry I got confused with the question
The 'enchanted' mini USB is total crap. Just check out the thread about people reporting problems because the looseness caused the little pins to be bent.
HTC should just put in a mini usb for data and power and a 3.5mm for audio.
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Yes, you are right
I´m sorry I got confused with the question
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No worries
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
Youre welcome, just check out the prices- maybe you can find the same thing only cheaper-- this was just a search for the right usb not price!!!
when you receive them- tell us did they work!
Good Luck
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Ordered this one as its a UK seller and will be much quicker.
However, im now temtped to start my own personal campaign against Acer and keep sending the phone back to them over and over again until they fix the Black Screen Of Death issue.... why do companies release phones with this common fault? Do they not use there own phones? I simply don't believe this can escape QA testing.
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Hi guys...!!!
I got a bit excited seeing my normal micro usb cable works with the touch pro. I just plugged it in for fun but it actually detected the cable and even my pc recognised the touch pro...
Did you guys know about it???
Just thought of sharing this piece of info with you all...
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Did you guys know about it???
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yes... lol
thanks anyway!
Worked with all of the HTC devices I've used so far (Universal, Kaiser, Artemis, and Raphael) - still good to mention, though.
ROFL!!
And BTW: It's MiniUSB, not MicroUSB.
this must be a joke..seriously lol
the htc usb plug (the 3 way audio/charger/tvout) isc alled a "non standard mini usb" and your normal mini usb is a "standard" the only function the non standard plug utilizes is all the audio/headset controls (the bottom 5 pins) while he top 4 (associated with the standard mini usb functions) control the + and - voltages and data transfer. so one would naturally assume and realize that ANY mini usb would work And the fact that the wall charger that comes with any htc device utlizes the standard mini usb design so its a no brainer..
Sorry, dint know that you all knew about it... Lol...
is this your first htc device?
It's the simple things we take for granted...
Yeah this is my 1st HTC device... I am still learning and just reading and getting to know this beast slowly... Lol...
HTC has a different name for it, they call it: HTC ExtUSB™!
Besides the PRO, the other PDA that I had was the Qtek S200 and it had a "normal" miniUSB connection.
n00b.
hey, guess what...I can press buttons on the screen with my finger!
(sorry dude, don't mean to offend you or anything really......its just that such posts are hard to come by and its beyond my ability to control the evil side in me)
Akash,
I can understand your surprise. I remember just a few HTC devices ago, (maybe the SX66), you had to know the pinout for the cable for the exact device. To make matters worse, many different cables with the same looking connector, had opposing pinouts. So you could actually fry your device plugging in a lookalike cable.
So remember, don't be afraid to jump in on any topic here.
I'm trying to get mini-USB cables from monoprice... how many pins does the mini-B connector have?
monoprice has 4 pin, 5 pin, 8 pin, 14 pin usb->mini b cables.
I bough a TyTN (hermes) and i was wondered about why it dont has audio port... 3.5 or 2.5... somebody sold me a convereter miniUSB to 3.5 the same port 11 PIN USB that my TyTN has but... it dont works...
Does anybody knows the configuration pins...??? i see a config for 11 PIN on a forum called Tracy and matt's blog USB EUM configurations pins... but... maybe it dont shows the real thing. any other source...?
htc doesn't use a plain mini usb plug they use ext-usb. Its a special type of plug. I don't know the pins but i do have the adapter and so therefore i know you can get an adapter to turn it into a headphone jack.
Here is an example of one... mine is a bit simpler with just the headphone jack but this will give you an idea.
Yep i saw this model... too...
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htc doesn't use a plain mini usb plug they use ext-usb. Its a special type of plug. I don't know the pins but i do have the adapter and so therefore i know you can get an adapter to turn it into a headphone jack.
Here is an example of one... mine is a bit simpler with just the headphone jack but this will give you an idea.
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Yes men i saw it but i have a more simply...
I know the usb 11 pin is a extUSB registered by HTC and I bough this one....
http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx...dio-salida-35-mm-para-audifonos-yo-bocina-_JM
it dont works... maybe not all the ext-USB are the same
My device is an at&t 8525 or htc hermes.
I don't know thats funny, are you sure they are a reputable seller? that your usb it working headphones ect.
I don't think their are different versions but i'll sniff around and see what i can find. They adapter i used worked fine in my 8925
Hi,
I've been looking around for something that will allow me to connect 3 separate inputs/outputs into my Desire:
microphone
speakers
charger
There seem to be a few DIY methods involving camcorder leads/ 4 pole jacks I can't be arsed with, but then I found these:
1. http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTC-Splitter-XV6850-Diamond-XV6950/dp/B001W49OKK
2. http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Multifunction-Adapter-T-Mobile-Shadow/dp/B001QD3MQE
3. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001RTM6KA
4. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00195I3X6
1 and 2 look ideal but they don't mention compatibility with the desire
the otherz look as though they won't work with a microphone
has anyone already purchased any of these / do they work?
or can you recommend anything else that would work?
any help would be appreciated, thanks
I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure the Desire doesn't have any audio capability via the USB port.
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I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure the Desire doesn't have any audio capability via the USB port.
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that really sucks if you're right
tarmacsurfer said:
I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure the Desire doesn't have any audio capability via the USB port.
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Yes, that's true. Heard it from HTC Sweden. I think it sucks, when will we Android-users be able to buy cool audio docks?
#3 and #4 are mini usb, they wont even fit in your desire. #1 and #2 are too low quality to be sure.
i'm sure you could look for something to utilise your headphone jack so you have a separate microphone and headphone component plugged into a Y jack, and charging via usual means
You could butcher your hands free kit that came with the desire and use it for speaker/microphone.
What kind of connector does the phone use???
If it's micro usb what did the G1 have?
KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
What kind of connector does the phone use???
If it's micro usb what did the G1 have?
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The G1 used HTC's version of mini-usb. It functioned perfectly fine with a normal mini-usb cord, but had a more square-ish shape and could also be used with attachments for audio out.
The G2x, along with most phones in production now, uses micro-usb.
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What kind of connector does the phone use???
If it's micro usb what did the G1 have?
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microUSB v2.0
Thanks for you help.
microUSB v2.0
They always change something to make us buy more car and house chargers.
MicroUSB was agreed, internationally, to be the standard. In fact, by using any USB variant, the extraneous chargers are reduced exponentially.
-bZj
The G1 had mini USB, which nobody uses anymore.
Now they need to stop including them. I have like 10. Kind of defeats the purpose of making it standard so you don't need 12 different chargers if the keep including them by default. LG could have left out that cable and put in an hdmi instead. I'm just saying.
Anyone want a micro usb charger? LOL.
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Now they need to stop including them. I have like 10. Kind of defeats the purpose of making it standard so you don't need 12 different chargers if the keep including them by default. LG could have left out that cable and put in an hdmi instead. I'm just saying.
Anyone want a micro usb charger? LOL.
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That be good idea. We get a HDMI cable that don't kill our phones.
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Hello everyone, I've been looking for 2 days now on Parts for the Blu Pure XL (Gionee Elife E8) and I've came up with nothing...
I have a damaged USB Port and I know this cause I've tried every charger in my home and I've cracked it open to take a look and the prongs that connect it to the board are bent. If anyone could give me a source that sells Blu Pure XL parts that would be incredibly helpful!
Please reply URGENTLY.......
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Hello everyone, I've been looking for 2 days now on Parts for the Blu Pure XL (Gionee Elife E8) and I've came up with nothing...
I have a damaged USB Port and I know this cause I've tried every charger in my home and I've cracked it open to take a look and the prongs that connect it to the board are bent. If anyone could give me a source that sells Blu Pure XL parts that would be incredibly helpful!
Please reply URGENTLY.......
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Just my thought, but aren't microUSB ports just... microUSB ports? It's not like the ports on different devices differs physically from others. You can use any microUSB cable on any phone with a microUSB port, can't you?
As for replacement parts, I'm not an expert on electronics (perhaps you're more knowledgeable than me), but can't you just swap in any new female microUSB port (or maybe even a USB Type C port, if you have the knowledge and if it fits)?
I'm not sure how the microUSB port is hooked up since I don't have the guts to open up my own Pure XL, but can't you unsolder/cut off your old port and solder in a new one (provided you have the knowledge)?
Possible Solution
Short Circuit said:
Just my thought, but aren't microUSB ports just... microUSB ports? It's not like the ports on different devices differs physically from others. You can use any microUSB cable on any phone with a microUSB port, can't you?
As for replacement parts, I'm not an expert on electronics (perhaps you're more knowledgeable than me), but can't you just swap in any new female microUSB port (or maybe even a USB Type C port, if you have the knowledge and if it fits)?
I'm not sure how the microUSB port is hooked up since I don't have the guts to open up my own Pure XL, but can't you unsolder/cut off your old port and solder in a new one (provided you have the knowledge)?
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MicroUSB ports are not just... MicroUSB ports, there are different types of pin variations (But all are 4 pins) to fit certain types of boards.
I never thought of actually replacing the USB Port. It might actually work, but I'm a little hesitant since I paid $350 for my phone.
Thank you for the reply back and I will try this. By the way, USB Type-C has 24 pins and a MicroUSB has 4; it's possible to use the USB-C, but Id only be able to charge my phone and it would take QC capability away from my phone. If anyone could direct me to the actual PCB Board with the USB and the Speakers for the Blu Pure XL that would be awesome! (Until then I guess this solution will have to do.)
Crude Solution, but works.
So what I did what get into my phone and remove the Non-Removable Battery, spliced an old microUSB cable and connected the Red & Black wires to the P+ & P- of the Lithium Ion Battery. Seems to charge the phone fast, bust remember to keep an eye on it and to not let it overheat... Here is a picture of the outcome: http://imgur.com/98Zolef
DJLinx said:
MicroUSB ports are not just... MicroUSB ports, there are different types of pin variations (But all are 4 pins) to fit certain types of boards.
I never thought of actually replacing the USB Port. It might actually work, but I'm a little hesitant since I paid $350 for my phone.
Thank you for the reply back and I will try this. By the way, USB Type-C has 24 pins and a MicroUSB has 4; it's possible to use the USB-C, but Id only be able to charge my phone and it would take QC capability away from my phone. If anyone could direct me to the actual PCB Board with the USB and the Speakers for the Blu Pure XL that would be awesome! (Until then I guess this solution will have to do.)
Crude Solution, but works.
So what I did what get into my phone and remove the Non-Removable Battery, spliced an old microUSB cable and connected the Red & Black wires to the P+ & P- of the Lithium Ion Battery. Seems to charge the phone fast, bust remember to keep an eye on it and to not let it overheat... Here is a picture of the outcome: http://imgur.com/98Zolef
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Having the same problem but for mine it seems like the metal connector on the outside protrudes whenever I plug a cable into the port... pretty loose by the looks of it.
Methinks I might see if BLU can fix it though.
Ashalinia said:
Having the same problem but for mine it seems like the metal connector on the outside protrudes whenever I plug a cable into the port... pretty loose by the looks of it.
Methinks I might see if BLU can fix it though.
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did you contact BLU?
were they any help?
my phone will only charge if the plug is held at a specific angle.
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sensorsweep said:
did you contact BLU?
were they any help?
my phone will only charge if the plug is held at a specific angle.
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They weren't able to fix it so they sent me a new Energy XL instead. Slightly inferior specs but battery is outstanding.
Also ported CM 12.1 rather easily to it. But yeah, you're either going to have to fix it yourself or get a replacement Energy XL (they might allow you to get a Pure XR as well, not sure.)
Not to dredge up a old thread; But I still need a charge board for my pure xl; I posted something months ago; and shelved the phone until recently; and I would love to find a source of parts for this.
hi
guys blupohoneparts now has the usb pcb is arround 27 dlls with shipping
i got mine there
jelo1 said:
guys blupohoneparts now has the usb pcb is arround 27 dlls with shipping
i got mine there
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I got mine from betterdeals4u.com (email [email protected]) for 19.99 shipped...
finally after several months!
Hate to bring up an old post but can anyone direct me to a "how to" on installing a new usb pcb? I've disassembled my phone and it seems the only solder point is the lower left hand portion.. I don't see any way of disconnecting otherwise. Ought I un-solder whatever it may be? or is there another method. Sorry btw.
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Hate to bring up an old post but can anyone direct me to a "how to" on installing a new usb pcb? I've disassembled my phone and it seems the only solder point is the lower left hand portion.. I don't see any way of disconnecting otherwise. Ought I un-solder whatever it may be? or is there another method. Sorry btw.
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I'll take some pics, but honestly if you cant tell the disconnection points (they are VERY obvious on this phone)
then maybe you should hand this repair off to someone more experienced...
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Does the USB PCB also have the rear speaker on it aswell?
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Does the USB PCB also have the rear speaker on it aswell?
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no, speakers are part of the back panel, it does drive the speakers though, the just are not attached to the board (spring connections)
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no, speakers are part of the back panel, it does drive the speakers though, the just are not attached to the board (spring connections)
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Thanks for your reply, do you know where to get the panel, as my speakers are shot.
Thanks
M
mutation101 said:
Thanks for your reply, do you know where to get the panel, as my speakers are shot.
Thanks
M
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I haven't seen it anywhere; but maybe try taking it apart and checking to see if the spring connections are making good contact...
So what is that big round thing the two wires are going to? My soldering skills aren't the greatest, so I want to make sure I'm not totally screwed if that's not connected.
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So what is that big round thing the two wires are going to? My soldering skills aren't the greatest, so I want to make sure I'm not totally screwed if that's not connected.
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Its the vibrator motor
All these boards seem to be out of stock
All the replacement USB pcba boards seem to be out of stock. I tried to purchase a USB port to replace the USB with but it's really difficult. Anyone know of a place I could buy the USB pcba board that has them in stock?
Replacement PCBA with USB
I also see it sold out at both Better deals and Blu phone parts.
I am asking (Allview) support in Europe but I don't hold much hope. Anyone else found these anywhere?
I bought mine in AliExpress but I think is out of stock. I found it as" Gionee s8 loud speaker "and the PCB from bluphoneparts