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Which HTC phones have normal mini-usb slots?

Hey guys
long story that i wont bore you with but I need to find out a HTC phone that has a normal 5 pin mini-usb slot, uses this for its headphones AND has a break-out cable (3.5mm slot halfway up it for normal headphones).
Can anyone help with this please?
NOTE: I dont want the 11pin ENHANCED mini-usbversion like on the touch-diamond. I want the version with two slanted sides, not one square and one slanted.

I don't think a 5 pin usb could carry audio as well. USB has wires for data+, data-, power+, and power-, and then the audio would need wires for left, right and earth, and another for a mike.
My old wizard had a 5 pin USB, and it had a separate 2.5mm headphone/headset socket.

yeah they can and do, its just the headphones that come with the Acer are S*&t but they do operate over mini-usb.
Thanks though, that probably means the Wizards not setup to pump audio over its mini-usb, i'll avoid that one then

My Uni has it

Thank you. I'll check them out on Ebay

the designers at htc should be clubbed on the head for their enhanced mini usb connector.
3.5mm audio + mini usb - that's what it always should have been.

I cant understand why would you want a standart mini usb if - "standart mini usb" works with "htc enchanted mini usb" --- I personaly have a standart mini usb for my Touch HD to use with PC and enchanted usb for charging it - it doesnt bother me that they are different they both do the same<- or am I missing something?
im just curious!

Lets put a couple of things straight...
1) standard mini-usb absolutely can NOT carry (non-digital) audio, no matter what some people in this thread think/claim. It simply CAN'T BE DONE.
If some device *DOES* have audio over mini-usb plug, then despite its shape, it is NOT USB. I *have* seen devices *misuse* the physical plugs it has.
2) The non-standard plug used by HTC is *fully compatible* with existing USB wires.
3) Because of (1) and (2), there is no use whatsoever for a standard USB plug to be on the device. It simply does not matter that there are extras in the plug.

lbcoder said:
Lets put a couple of things straight...
1) standard mini-usb absolutely can NOT carry (non-digital) audio, no matter what some people in this thread think/claim. It simply CAN'T BE DONE.
If some device *DOES* have audio over mini-usb plug, then despite its shape, it is NOT USB. I *have* seen devices *misuse* the physical plugs it has.
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Wow, jump down the throat there.... nice guy obviously.
I can think of a way it can be done ......
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Would you like to also clarify how any of the 3 mini-usb cables (from various sources) work fine with the phone and PC and then can be swapped out for the Acer headset which is through the same mini-usb port? If it was a non-normal port then as you say, its unlikely the other generic cables would work.....
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lbcoder said:
2) The non-standard plug used by HTC is *fully compatible* with existing USB wires.
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Do you mean an Enhanced USB will fit in a non-enhanced port? I don't have one spare but they are a physicaly diferent shape....
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3) Because of (1) and (2), there is no use whatsoever for a standard USB plug to be on the device. It simply does not matter that there are extras in the plug.
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Agreed (sort of)... just a bit worried that you keep saying "standard" though, you do mean a standard MINI-usb right? But agreed, there is simply no justification for not having a 3.5mm jack .... its madness and a madness not just confined to HTC sadly

Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
I cant understand why would you want a standart mini usb if - "standart mini usb" works with "htc enchanted mini usb" --- I personaly have a standart mini usb for my Touch HD to use with PC and enchanted usb for charging it - it doesnt bother me that they are different they both do the same<- or am I missing something?
im just curious!
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I think, if im reading you right, your looking at it the wrong way round
The phone I have has a STANDARD mini usb. I think your saying your phone has an ENHANCED mini usb port (guess that answers the above about them not fitting/fitting). And ENHANCED wont fit in MY STANDARD and the only HTC phones I could find had ENHANCED.
My thinking was that if I could find a HTC that had a 5pin mini-usb, I could try one of those remotes - im getting desperate!

Monty Burns said:
I think, if im reading you right, your looking at it the wrong way round
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Guess I am!! my english aint perfect and its hard for me to understand this thread with all the technical stuff in it!!!
so youre looking for something like this - http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5mm-Headphone...ries?hash=item3ef2fd81ba&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
but with a standart usb plug, right?

orb3000 said:
My Uni has it
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It appears that you use a 3.5mm jack for your audio and not the Mini-usb
I could be wrong as its an old product and the only info I can find is on PDADB. Can any Universal owners confirm this? If it uses a 3.5mm jack for audio then its mini-usb cable is useless to me and I won't bother ordering one.

Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
Guess I am!! my english aint perfect and its hard for me to understand this thread with all the technical stuff in it!!!
so youre looking for something like this - http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5mm-Headphone...ries?hash=item3ef2fd81ba&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
but with a standart usb plug, right?
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Yes mate, the 5pin version
I've ordered a couple of 5 pin->3.5mm jacks from ebay but so far the three diferent ones i've ordered haven't worked.

Monty Burns said:
Yes mate, the 5pin version
I've ordered a couple of 5 pin->3.5mm jacks from ebay but so far the three diferent ones i've ordered haven't worked.
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have you tried some of these :
http://cgi.ebay.com/For-MOTOROLA-V3...ries?hash=item20ac981719&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-USB-to-3-5...ries?hash=item4399494e03&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

spot on mate!
No, i hadnt thought of looking outside the WinMob world at other devices. I'll order one first thing tomorrow when i'm back at work.... fingers crossed and thank you!!!

Monty Burns said:
spot on mate!
No, i hadnt thought of looking outside the WinMob world at other devices. I'll order one first thing tomorrow when i'm back at work.... fingers crossed and thank you!!!
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Youre welcome, just check out the prices- maybe you can find the same thing only cheaper-- this was just a search for the right usb not price!!!
when you receive them- tell us did they work!
Good Luck

Monty Burns said:
It appears that you use a 3.5mm jack for your audio and not the Mini-usb
I could be wrong as its an old product and the only info I can find is on PDADB. Can any Universal owners confirm this? If it uses a 3.5mm jack for audio then its mini-usb cable is useless to me and I won't bother ordering one.
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Yes, you are right
I´m sorry I got confused with the question

The 'enchanted' mini USB is total crap. Just check out the thread about people reporting problems because the looseness caused the little pins to be bent.
HTC should just put in a mini usb for data and power and a 3.5mm for audio.

orb3000 said:
Yes, you are right
I´m sorry I got confused with the question
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No worries

Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
Youre welcome, just check out the prices- maybe you can find the same thing only cheaper-- this was just a search for the right usb not price!!!
when you receive them- tell us did they work!
Good Luck
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Ordered this one as its a UK seller and will be much quicker.
However, im now temtped to start my own personal campaign against Acer and keep sending the phone back to them over and over again until they fix the Black Screen Of Death issue.... why do companies release phones with this common fault? Do they not use there own phones? I simply don't believe this can escape QA testing.

usb cable

im new to usb phone, all previous have had proprietary connection
will any mini(or is it micro) usb cable work?
in other words can i get it from a pc shop and save $20 over vzw prices?

Micro usb cable, and yes
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I would recommend monoprice.com or amazon. You can get a stack of micro-usb cables for <$10 normally.

eleazar123 said:
I would recommend monoprice.com or amazon. You can get a stack of micro-usb cables for <$10 normally.
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and vzw wants @ 20 for one
im am assuming i can also get a generic car adapter for this?
or do what i did for the omnia nad get a bundle like this one?
http://www.amazon.com/Silicone-Prot..._1_2?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1284045238&sr=8-2

Generic charger will work fine as long as the plug is Micro USB. Never buy cables in stores unless you're cool with 1000% markup

lordcyrus said:
Generic charger will work fine as long as the plug is Micro USB. Never buy cables in stores unless you're cool with 1000% markup
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no markup if you know the right people in a local shop

not so fast
So you SHOULD be able to use any old usb cable, but its not always the case. I tried to use my Kindle USB cable on my fascinate and it DID charge it, but would NOT allow me to mount the SD card on the host computer. On closer inspection it LOOKS like the cable wouldn't go in all the way. Tried a differant cable and it worked fine.
The odds are that any cable WILL work, just sayin that sometimes...

I got a couple micros today from
monoprice and they don't sit all the way in but are enough to transfer if you don't bump the phone. My plan is to file or dremel the plastic head a little this weekend.
The receptacle is recessed just far enough to keep the plug from fully engaging.
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kirwoodd said:
So you SHOULD be able to use any old usb cable, but its not always the case. I tried to use my Kindle USB cable on my fascinate and it DID charge it, but would NOT allow me to mount the SD card on the host computer. On closer inspection it LOOKS like the cable wouldn't go in all the way. Tried a differant cable and it worked fine.
The odds are that any cable WILL work, just sayin that sometimes...
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My kindle cable works.. It's the latest Kindle, not sure if yours is older or not. It doesn't sit flush, but as long as you're not playing catch with the thing while it's plugged it's fine. I do all my adb work over that cable.

iking said:
I got a couple micros today from
monoprice and they don't sit all the way in but are enough to transfer if you don't bump the phone. My plan is to file or dremel the plastic head a little this weekend.
The receptacle is recessed just far enough to keep the plug from fully engaging.
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same issue here. I get all my cables from monoprice. Too bad the micro head is too fat, but filing it down is a good idea. I need to try that.

This one (OEM Samsung, but from another model) is cheap and works fine.

Nokia CA-101 usb cable

Just tried my CA-101 cable that came with my nokia X6 with my DHD, and it works, I was able to sync etc...

Wooohooo!!

Any micro USB cable should work.

olivierlee said:
Any micro USB cable should work.
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Funny how people are surprised by this fact... DOH

leppie said:
Funny how people are surprised by this fact... DOH
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I always though the contacts have different configs.

Yeah, but a standardised micro usb will be the same between makes and models.

sean2390 said:
Yeah, but a standardised micro usb will be the same between makes and models.
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Yes, and thank you EU for mandating this from mobile phone manufacturers. Standard charging and data cable finally.
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I've used the USB-socket adapter and cable from my kindle to charge my DHD
and my old Nokia CA-101 to charge both my kindle and my HDH via my PC
and i've used my DHD usb cable and adapter to charge my kindle... >_<
Sort of mix-and-match recharging solutions... (no bangs or meltdowns yet...) ^_^ lol

That's why standards are made ;-)
I would recommend to grab some Mini- to Micro-USB-adaptors as well (one for the wallet), because it broadens the possibilities to charge/connect your DHD with the (momentary) more common Mini-USB.

nice ......................

Yup, I had to take a cable to work to charge the DHD, so I accidently took the Nokia one and only found out once I was at the office. But since the connector looked the same, I thought I'd try - worked !
Thank God we are going to have a single type of connection for all mobiles soon....

Genuine HTC USB Cable

Hi guys
Anyone know where to buy a GENUINE usb cable? They are the only ones that work with ADB, as I have many micro-usb (blackberry,generic, etc) but only my HTC one actually works with ADB. Anyone know where to buy one?
Cheers

I've purchased a few from ebay that claim to be the real deal, the only thing that says htc is a removable stick which makes me doubt the authenticity but I assure you the work fine with
adb. they only cost around $2. there are tons of them on ebay, just search htc micro usb cable
if you want the exact link to what I bought let me know and ill post
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Hi guys
Anyone know where to buy a GENUINE usb cable? They are the only ones that work with ADB, as I have many micro-usb (blackberry,generic, etc) but only my HTC one actually works with ADB. Anyone know where to buy one?
Cheers
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I can tell you for a fact that is not true, I've never had the original cable since my brother gave me his G2, and I've been using a Nook micro-usb cable with my phone ever since I owned it on my computer.
A Genuine micro-USB cable is no different in communication than any other micro-usb cable, if you're using windows you probably just got the USB drivers wrong for your phone, or didn't download all of the platform-tools files. Again the only thing that makes the cable genuine is the htc/t-mobile logo on it, otherwise it's the same as any other OEM/Generic cable thats been branded.
PS: Did you remember to enable USB Debugging?

Thanks guys, I ordered one off ebay for £2 and yeah I did enable usb debugging
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i have tried loads of different genuine micro usb cables from various makers and never had a problem...
shame i didnt see this earlier or i could have sent you about 20 for free :laugh:

So if USB Debugging is working is there no threat to using a generic USB cable? I have a generic one and rooted last night. The entire time I was nervous because there were a lot of posts about the official HTC cable. Was I worrying needlessly?

Yup, it is true some might not work but if they work once, well they should keep on working. Pretty much if you have debugging on and the proper drivers and everything else... then you type adb devices and you see your serial number, that cable is just fine. If it says waiting for device or something like that, then it is possible you have a bad cable but almost always a different problem
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demkantor said:
Yup, it is true some might not work but if they work once, well they should keep on working. Pretty much if you have debugging on and the proper drivers and everything else... then you type adb devices and you see your serial number, that cable is just fine. If it says waiting for device or something like that, then it is possible you have a bad cable but almost always a different problem
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Thanks! That would have saved some needless worrying last night but it all worked out. Good to know for the future though!

Afaik, there are only two kinds of micro-USB cables. Normally they support both data and power (charging), but some only support charging (data pins aren't connected).
I bought some cheapest retractable micro-USB data cables from dx.com and they work just fine. The cheap retractable ones just seem to easily break after long use.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z loaded with Jelly Bean (Andromadus/CM10)

Haprog said:
Afaik, there are only two kinds of micro-USB cables. Normally they support both data and power (charging), but some only support charging (data pins aren't connected).
I bought some cheapest retractable micro-USB data cables from dx.com and they work just fine. The cheap retractable ones just seem to easily break after long use.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z loaded with Jelly Bean (Andromadus/CM10)
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The most common chance of you getting a charge-only USB cable, is if it came with something like a Car charger. Otherwise they should always have both the power and data pins.

[Q] Micro-USB -> HDMI... will it work?

Bare with me here... though this may turn into a convoluted solution.
I already own a galaxy s2, along with the HDMI adaptor for it (I believe this is a microUSB -> HDMI adaptor?)
Unfortunatly, the Note does not have microUSB ports, or even a normal USB port. So, I was going to buy this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/eKit-Connec...1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1353974512&sr=1-2
Unfortunately, of course, this also does not have microUSB. But it does have miniUSB and normal USB.
So if I get an adaptor such as - http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002O1S8...de=asn&creative=22218&creativeASIN=B002O1S8IE
...Will this mean I can use my current S2 HDMI adaptor, on my Note10.1?
While this may seem overly complex, my reasoning is (I think) sound. I will be getting the USB adaptor block anyway, because it is compact and universally useful. And I already own the hdmi adaptor (a Note-specific one is £25 minimum...far as I can see).
So the only extra expense is the £2 for a micro-mini USB adaptor. Saving me £23.
...assuming this will even work.
Any notions?

I do not know for sure but I thought I read somewhere the first adapter will not allow video pass through. Sorry I do not know where I read that at.
I use the hdmi adapter made for the original tab 10.1 and have had no issues. I think its 30$ on Samsung website but i'm sure you could find it cheaper on Amazon or Ebay. Or even an off brand for that matter. Sorry Its not much but I hope that helps.
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stormglove said:
I do not know for sure but I thought I read somewhere the first adapter will not allow video pass through. Sorry I do not know where I read that at.
I use the hdmi adapter made for the original tab 10.1 and have had no issues. I think its 30$ on Samsung website but i'm sure you could find it cheaper on Amazon or Ebay. Or even an off brand for that matter. Sorry Its not much but I hope that helps.
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Oh I see, I'd just assumed USB was USB, not sure why it would block video... Strange

nirurin said:
Oh I see, I'd just assumed USB was USB, not sure why it would block video... Strange
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Turns out you might be right. Damn. Back to drawing board!

nirurin said:
Turns out you might be right. Damn. Back to drawing board!
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Could one use a USB to HDMI converter or something to that effect?

DeBoX said:
Could one use a USB to HDMI converter or something to that effect?
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That was my plan. The galaxy S2hdmi cable is a micro-USB to hdmi converter.
Apparently the 4in1 USB adapter doesn't let any video signal through though. Uyoud have to buy a 30pin to hdmi adapter instead.

Just tried my mhl adapter from my one x no joy shame really maybe someone will find away around it