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Live Demo unit of Touch Cruise in London

Just saw on the Inkino Website (www.inkino.co.uk) that they have a working demo unit of the HTC Touch Cruise at their shop on Tottenham Court Road, London. Will try to check it out today and report back. The actual units cannot be too far away.
This is another great coup for these guys and maintains, IMHO, their position as top-dogs for all things HTC. I suspect that they are going to be very busy showing this unit and taking pre-orders.

KillyTheBid said:
Just saw on the Inkino Website (www.inkino.co.uk) that they have a working demo unit of the HTC Touch Cruise at their shop on Tottenham Court Road, London. Will try to check it out today and report back. The actual units cannot be too far away.
This is another great coup for these guys and maintains, IMHO, their position as top-dogs for all things HTC. I suspect that they are going to be very busy showing this unit and taking pre-orders.
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The website also lists out the full tri-band UMTS frequencies - now that's encouraging. Release dates seem to be coalescing around the last week of January.
The price is in about the middle between (say) in2mobiles and some earlier listed prices in US stores (no stock there now, anyway, and maybe no way now of aquiring it).
Perhaps the fog is starting to lift for English ROM devices outside of the US ...

ianl8888 said:
The website also lists out the full tri-band UMTS frequencies - now that's encouraging. Release dates seem to be coalescing around the last week of January.
The price is in about the middle between (say) in2mobiles and some earlier listed prices in US stores (no stock there now, anyway, and maybe no way now of aquiring it).
Perhaps the fog is starting to lift for English ROM devices outside of the US ...
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As an addendum, I phoned this retailer about 10:00am UK time Friday. Very pleasant, but can't/won't answer the question about the accessibility of the advertised three UMTS frequency bands ... as is now usual, they promised an immediate email with the answer but didn't.
Two out two refusals to answer the question now.

ianl8888 said:
As an addendum, I phoned this retailer about 10:00am UK time Friday. Very pleasant, but can't/won't answer the question about the accessibility of the advertised three UMTS frequency bands ... as is now usual, they promised an immediate email with the answer but didn't.
Two out two refusals to answer the question now.
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I believe this stems from the S730. It was listed as tri-band UTMS everywhere before its release. Then it came out and was only 2100. Therefore I assume that most retailers are waiting to see for themselves before they advertise it as tri-band.
The Touch Cruise however is listed on HTC's website AND in the downloadable manual from HTC as tri-band. So in my opinion, there is nothing to speculate.

butzchan said:
I believe this stems from the S730. It was listed as tri-band UTMS everywhere before its release. Then it came out and was only 2100. Therefore I assume that most retailers are waiting to see for themselves before they advertise it as tri-band.
The Touch Cruise however is listed on HTC's website AND in the downloadable manual from HTC as tri-band. So in my opinion, there is nothing to speculate.
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On the contrary, a good number of retailers are still advertising tri-band, including Inkino, but won't answer the question when pressed. Oh, and Inkino has a working device there, so it's a 10 second job to interrogate the phone settings for the frequencies, but they would not. This is not speculation, it's the process of establishing a fact. To assume one position or the other is speculation.
If the English ROM device is now limited to 2100Mhz (which is the question), then HTC are unlikely to cripple their sales in the UK and Western Europe (which use only 2100Mhz) by stating this now. because then these consumers cannot connect in countries that use other than 2100Mhz.
Why am I asking the question ? Because if the English ROM on the yet-withheld supply does allow tri-band 3G, then US consumers may purchase from UK retailers and connect to the 850Mhz 3G frequency in the US. This is precisely what Broadcomm's court actions are meant to prevent, at least without the payment of $$$Royalties by Qualcomm.

ianl8888 said:
On the contrary, a good number of retailers are still advertising tri-band, including Inkino, but won't answer the question when pressed. Oh, and Inkino has a working device there, so it's a 10 second job to interrogate the phone settings for the frequencies, but they would not. This is not speculation, it's the process of establishing a fact. To assume one position or the other is speculation.
If the English ROM device is now limited to 2100Mhz (which is the question), then HTC are unlikely to cripple their sales in the UK and Western Europe (which use only 2100Mhz) by stating this now. because then these consumers cannot connect in countries that use other than 2100Mhz.
Why am I asking the question ? Because if the English ROM on the yet-withheld supply does allow tri-band 3G, then US consumers may purchase from UK retailers and connect to the 850Mhz 3G frequency in the US. This is precisely what Broadcomm's court actions are meant to prevent, at least without the payment of $$$Royalties by Qualcomm.
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Can't you read??? Go to HTC website, where it clearly says that machine is
HSDPA/UMTS: 2100 MHz (Europe), 850/1900 MHz (USA)
HSDPA: Up to 384kbps for upload and 3.6Mbps for download
UMTS: Up to 384kbps for upload and download
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Quad-band 850, 900, 1800, and 1900 MHz (The device will operate on frequencies available from the cellular network)
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How many frequencies can you count for HSDPA/UMTS????
There's no HTC US roms!!! All HTC branded US machines use WWE. Only operators like Cingular or AT&T change something. Plus, if you read forums, you'll see that all Asian Radio roms for HTC machines are fully compatible with european networks.

vasil said:
Can't you read??? Go to HTC website, where it clearly says that machine is
How many frequencies can you count for HSDPA/UMTS????
There's no HTC US roms!!! All HTC branded US machines use WWE. Only operators like Cingular or AT&T change something. Plus, if you read forums, you'll see that all Asian Radio roms for HTC machines are fully compatible with european networks.
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Of course I've read it ... I'm not suggesting there are ROM's only for the US (that's just your straw man argument). What I am asking is whether the English ROM's in the yet-to-be released retail stock are as advertised, or whether they have been modified to connect only to 2100Mhz or the 1900Mhz Japanese frequencies.
I can both count and read - but you don't seem to have grasped my point. Obviously I will now simply wait and see what actually transpires ... the Qualcomm conviction for patent infringements has had an effect, we just don't know exactly what it is yet. I hope it's minor (although not so minor for the US).

To buy this sort of device you have to be a bit more clever... I would recomend you to stick with Nokia 1110i Thet should fully match you intelegence level

"To buy this sort of device you have to be a bit more clever... I would recomend you to stick with Nokia 1110i Thet should fully match you intelegence level"
Oh dear, oh dear ... just read the US Court judgment of December 31, 2007 entitled 12-31-07 Permanent_Injunction_Order Case SAC 05-467 JVSRNBx)
There are some very sharp people on this forum and unhappily some real dills too. They seem to prefer trying to play the man and not the ball - I suppose it's easier.

Smart guy... Heh
850, 1900, 2100 - 3 frequencies. So I think it should be tri-band. Oh no, sorry, 1+1+1=2. Thats right.
And one more thing. How would you check if one frequency is missing???

vasil said:
Smart guy... Heh
850, 1900, 2100 - 3 frequencies. So I think it should be tri-band. Oh no, sorry, 1+1+1=2. Thats right.
And one more thing. How would you check if one frequency is missing???
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Yep, definitely easier ...
Try Start>Settings>Phone>Band
and if any of the advertised frequencies is greyed out then the ROM doesn't now support it.
All I'm after is the answer to this simple interrogation on the current yet-to-be released English ROM stock. So far, two retail dealers have avoided answering this question (? too much trouble for 1 sale, I suppose, and perhaps they do not yet want to know the answer anyway) and I can certainly wait.

Hi,
May I just chip in and say that
Try Start>Settings>Phone>Band
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can be grossly inaccurate as I have had handsets where more frequencies than listed (using Start>Settings>Phone>Band
) were supported and I suspect that vice-versa is true too.
With this is mind I would not expect any retailer to be able to give you accurate information even if they looked at the actual machine and read off the value from Start>Settings>Phone>Band.

KillyTheBid said:
Hi,
May I just chip in and say that
can be grossly inaccurate as I have had handsets where more frequencies than listed (using Start>Settings>Phone>Band
) were supported and I suspect that vice-versa is true too.
With this is mind I would not expect any retailer to be able to give you accurate information even if they looked at the actual machine and read off the value from Start>Settings>Phone>Band.
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Thank you for your contribution.
Your point is appreciated, but I wouldn't shell out $$$ on a "suck it and see" basis. I really don't see this as a lottery.
My only experiences with 3G-enabled devices to date showed me that the listed frequencies in Phone>Band were available. I tested these in quite a few countries of differing Mhz and the "auto" setting found them. So I set them manually then to test and logged on OK.
It's interesting that you don't see the Phone>Band frequency listing as a fact. Apart from trial and error, how would you determine exactly which frequencies were actually supported, please ?

1. Although HTC touch lists only
GSM/GPRS/EDGE Tri-band: 900, 1800, 1900
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people on this forum reported it to work on 850.
2. Frequencies in phone settings are just registry values!!!
My TyTN II shows:
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After some regitry tweaking
Any other bright ideas???
Just in case: Polaris lists 4 GSM bands, and 3 UMTS bands in settings.

vasil said:
1. Although HTC touch lists only
people on this forum reported it to work on 850.
2. Frequencies in phone settings are just registry values!!!
My TyTN II shows:
After some regitry tweaking
Any other bright ideas???
Just in case: Polaris lists 4 GSM bands, and 3 UMTS bands in settings.
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Your Polaris "list" - from the Manual printed BEFORE Dec 31st (ie. the date of the Court judgement) or from a device retailed out of stock released by HTC AFTER Dec 31st ?
So far you've avoided this issue through low-level sarcasm. Again, that's likely easier than actually reading the PDF report from the US Court.
GSM/UMTS frequencies in the registry -
HKLM>SOFTWARE>OEM>Phone Setting>BandType
are set from the ROM installation. Simply modifying (ie. editing) them only in their registry values does not alter the frequency that the phone can log onto. If the ROM does not list a frequency on install, you have to modify the ROM, not the registry.
If it were not so, then that Court judgement would have no force in the US.

butzchan said:
The Touch Cruise however is listed on HTC's website AND in the downloadable manual from HTC as tri-band. So in my opinion, there is nothing to speculate.
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There is no downloadable manual for the TC.. I couldn't find it..

isv51 said:
There is no downloadable manual for the TC.. I couldn't find it..
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http://www.htc.com/support/support_htctouchcruise.htm

Still don't understand:
So you do not believe in what HTC says on their website, but you do believe what they say in the device???
You're funny guy.
I've been dealing with this company for some time now. I'm totaly happy.
One more thing:
If product doesn't work according to it's specs, you can get your refund anyway!
And also here in UK we don't give a S"£t about US Courts

ianl8888 said:
http://www.htc.com/support/support_htctouchcruise.htm
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Thx... I'm blind!

vasil said:
Still don't understand:
So you do not believe in what HTC says on their website, but you do believe what they say in the device???
You're funny guy.
I've been dealing with this company for some time now. I'm totaly happy.
One more thing:
If product doesn't work according to it's specs, you can get your refund anyway!
And also here in UK we don't give a S"£t about US Courts
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Well said. This phone is not meant for the US market. Therefore, no reason to disable the 850/1900 radio.
Also, would it be illegal (according to the court decision) for a European traveler/business person to bring their TC to the US on a business/personal trip and access the 3G networks?

Visiting Taipei, Taiwan; can I buy a HTC there?

I am visiting Taipei in October. It would be great if I could buy an HTC there that would work on ATT/Cingular network in the USA. If the units they sell in Taiwan are quad band, will it work in the USA?
Also looking for leads of good electronic stores in the city.

I went there in 2003 - it's a very interesting city - a kind of mix of western and Chinese cultures.
I don't know about the Hero in Taipei but do watch out for the mopeds! They're insane!!

There are HTC stores in Taipei.
They will work, just that the phone will be in Chinese.
You will also need to find ATT plan for data and settings for the phone.
I had a Tmobile sim card and Edge network worked on a P3600i.

monkeykuo said:
There are HTC stores in Taipei.
They will work, just that the phone will be in Chinese.
You will also need to find ATT plan for data and settings for the phone.
I had a Tmobile sim card and Edge network worked on a P3600i.
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There are HTC STORES? brb moving to Taipei.

In Taipei, when the traffic lights are red, the mopeds congregate. When the lights change it's like the start of the Moto GP!
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It's like this at every intersection everytime the lights change!

I already have an unlimited 3g plan for my HTC x7501, so I will be able to hotswap the SIM card to see if the phone will work.

I'm thinking if I will go to China and can I just use my mobile phone and buy a local sim card for it? Will it work?

USA likes to go by its own way (as usual). That's why there are some different 3G frequencies than in Europe and Asia. So buying 3G phone in Europe or Asia make sure it can support USA 3G frequencies or u will end with bare GSM phone.
Find in internet which frequencies are used in USA' 3G. Write it down. When you will be in Taiwan, check phone specification and match your frequencies.
Not all 3G phones support all frequencies. For example Samsung Omnia II sold in Asia supports only Asian and European 3G frequencies. While Samsung Omnia II sold (well, will be sold) in America supports only American 3G frequencies.

Luv Taipei...great city & people! been there 5 times over the years
OP, find out when the Leo is going to be available while your shoping at the htc stores

Specifically, give me some addresses or neighborhoods to find this electronic stuff! I know of one HTC store in Taiwan, but thats it...Hopefully thats all I need!

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Limlin said:
I'm thinking if I will go to China and can I just use my mobile phone and buy a local sim card for it? Will it work?
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Is your phone locked? If so, you need to unlock it before it can be used with a local sim card in China.

to buy a such smartphone is easy in Taibei,but I guess they will use Chinese and Japanese network instead,any other compatible?

keithwwalker said:
Specifically, give me some addresses or neighborhoods to find this electronic stuff! I know of one HTC store in Taiwan, but thats it...Hopefully thats all I need!
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I dont know where you stay at, but here is a map for taipei metro.
http://www.trtc.com.tw/img/all/bigNH.jpg
What you need to do is locate "Zhongxiao Xinsheng" station, and ask hotel people how to get there via metro.
Once you are at "Zhongxiao Xinsheng" station get out at exit 4, you come out of the stair way the street in front of you is "Sinsheng South Road". You make a right at the #4 exit, keep walking for about 3 minutes, you will see "Bade Road", you turn left there. Take a right on the first traffic light(small street dont know the name). Dont take my word for it, but I do remember there is a HTC store there. If not, I am sure you will find a store around that area sells HTC phone, plus all your pc, electronic, audio, video needs.
There is a six story building called Guang Hua plaza, take some time and go check it out.
Here is google map link with exit4 on point A and that little street next to Guang Hua plaza on point B.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou....043698,121.533347&spn=0.004379,0.008256&z=18

Thanks, for the record, if you go to the HTC Taiwan site, they have a list of stores as well but most appear to be kiosks...

Cheaper?
Hi, may i know if i buy from Taiwan, the phone will be cheaper or almost the same price in your own local store. Buying from Taiwan would lose warranty. I am thinking of purchasing one at there, but am an inexperienced person who does not know the price.

[Resources] How to tell if your TP2 is GSM or CDMA with links to info

here is a list of the different models of the TP2 with links to the proper SPL and rom threads. Hope this helps. The model number for each one will be under the Battery and normally start with Rhod. I will Ask for a little help from some members that are using European models so I can link the right model to the right carrier. I am at work so I will be updating this through out the day.
GSM- Radio- Roms- Hard SPL- Sim Unlocker
AT&T HTC Tilt2 T7377 (HTC Rhodium300)
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T-Mobile MDA Vario V (HTC Rhodium210)
HTC Touch Pro2 T7373 (HTC Rhodium 100)
Vodafone UK-HTC Touch Pro2 T7373 (HTC Rhodium 100)
CDMA-Radio- XDARoms- PPCGeeksRoms- Hard SPL- Sim Unlocker
Verizon Touch Pro2 XV6875 (HTC Rhodium W)
Sprint Rhod400 T7380 Touch Pro2 (HTC Rhodium W)
HTC Touch Pro2 CDMA (HTC Rhodium W)
The rom section for CDMA is kinda small on XDA so I also Linked to the rom section for PPCGeeks.

For starters, you can look at the service provider from which the phone came, to determine whether it is CDMA or GSM.
On a side note, does it matter whether it was CDMA or GSM, as the phone supports both. And are the roms GSM or CDMA specific?
Thanks

evoodoo13 said:
For starters, you can look at the service provider from which the phone came, to determine whether it is CDMA or GSM.
On a side note, does it matter whether it was CDMA or GSM, as the phone supports both. And are the roms GSM or CDMA specific?
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Yes, the ROMS and HardSPL appear to be specific to either GSM or CDMA.
IMHO you should steer away from the carrier being the guide. For example, can we be sure that a carried called, say, Vodafone in one country is going to be running the same technology in all countries where they exist ? Could be confusing.
Isn't the simplest way to look under the battery and see what model it is, e.g. RHOD100, RHOD400, RHOD500 etc ?

Wow, seriously? Not EVERYTHING warrants a placeholder thread.
How about we make threads when we have CONTENT and not just an IDEA?

cdma phones tend to be a little heavier than gsm phones.

Well I stumble upon a post of how to tell if you have a CDMA tp2 or GSM it goes something like this
Customer: ...Dial 611.....Ring ring ring....
Hello, welcome to (insert carrier name here)
Auto Systemress 1 for billing, 2 for sale, 3 for tech support
Customer: 3
CR: Hello there, my name is ( insert here), rep id (insert here) how may I help you today.
Customer: Yes, hi there, my name is Douche, last name Bag, I urgently need help!!!!!
CR: OK not a prob, may I call you Mr.Bag?
Mr.Bag: Yes that's fine, ok so I have a prob here, I just bought this brand new $600 dollars piece of work here, but I can't tell from looking at the box if the phone is CDMA or GSM, can you assist?
CR: OK let me see if I understand what your problem is, you want to know if the phone you bought from us is CDMA or GSM correct?
Mr.Bag: Yes that is absolutely correct.
CR: Ok may I ask why do you need this info?
Mr.Bag: I need to know because I just paid 600 bones for this and all you put it in is CRAPWARE, I need to flash this thing with a custom ROM ASAP because if not this thing will blow up.
CR: Ok let me see if I can pull up some info........(waiting.....waiting). AHA I got it, ok so according to my computer screen here, you have a (insert CDMA or GSM) phone.
Mr.Bag: Are you that is what I have? Positively sure 100% sure?
CR: Yes according to the computer.
Mr.Bag: Ok I will take your words for it, if this thing get brick, I'd be soooooo piss off.
CR: Don't worry sir, if it does, just call us back up and made up a bs reason and we'll exchange your phone under warranty, you'll get another one 5-7 business day.
Mr.Bag: Oh ok great, that will be all today.
CR: Is there anything else I can do for you today sir? Nope? Ok good day Douche Bag

Putting the phone in bootloader mode will give you the model number also IIRC.
Dave

thanks very much for the thread im in australia and have the sprint version so its all bit confusing for me

my new sprint tp2 says RHOD400 , model T7380

evoodoo13 said:
For starters, you can look at the service provider from which the phone came, to determine whether it is CDMA or GSM.
On a side note, does it matter whether it was CDMA or GSM, as the phone supports both. And are the roms GSM or CDMA specific?
Thanks
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Yes it does matter actually. Not all TP2s are really GSM Phones. The ones that are GSM and GSM only are true GSM. The US Carriers that are pretty much CDMA Carriers have TP2s that are considered Hybrid CDMA, which means that they are CDMA Based, but have GSM capabilities.

romeo0119 said:
Well I stumble upon a post of how to tell if you have a CDMA tp2 or GSM it goes something like this
CR: Is there anything else I can do for you today sir? Nope? Ok good day Douche Bag
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Classic, Just classic. I take it you work on the call floor too eh? If only some people knew what we really say when we put em on mute hahahahahhaa

t0mmyr said:
my new sprint tp2 says RHOD400 , model T7380
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HTC Rhodium300,HTC Rhodium210,HTC Rhodium 100:flash GSM rom。
HTC Rhodium W,HTC Rhodium 400，HTC Rhodium 500:flash CDMA rom。
I think my summery is much more completed than the thread starter.

this was help ful thanks guys.

hello, i would like to flash my HTC t7380 rhodium W running windows mobile 6.5 with android , where can i get an android rom and what are the steeps please

HTC Magic to get Froyo from Vodafone

Hey, I just found this at Reddit:
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-2-2-upgrade-915528?poll=result&asid=2ec5c031
May be useful for some devs.

Not sure but I think this will only apply to 32b and not 32a phones.

I though Vodafone sold 32A in UK ?
It would be nice to have it stock only with root/busybox

How exactly will this differ from the TMO update? :S

Not sure of this if the same as the us t- mo version and am not too keen to go back to stock so that I download another perfect spl
This was announced yesterday and this is the only thread about it I have seen.
Poor little magic hasn't seen the light of day since I got my dell streak and desire
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

French operator SFR also released an over-the-air 2.2 update a week ago. But French Magic tend to be 32B. Not sure if this has any point...

cytracker said:
I though Vodafone sold 32A in UK ?
It would be nice to have it stock only with root/busybox
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mines Uk vodaphone and its 32b
would be nice to see an OTA for vodaphone im using the tmobile one at the mo very nice gives me more spare memory than other roms 30-37mb free, compaired to the 1.6 roms 20-24mb free.

Different versions of Xperia 5ii

I found there are 3 different versions of Xperia 5ii.
XQ-AS52, XQ-AS62, XQ-AS72
Anyone know the differences on these three models?

It seems based on product codes and xpericheck:
XQ-AS52 - EUROPE - 128Gb, 5G
XQ-AS62 - US - 128Gb, no 5G
XQ-AS72 - China/HK/Tw, 256Gb, 5G

My device is from europe and I'm on 1 aug security update.

So, no difference in the hardware and radios from what I read. I got the XQ-AS72 and I'm on Verizon. Initially, the IMEI said that it wouldn't work on Verizon. But if you get with the right tech rep on chat, tell them that you need to set up a CDMA-less phone. I did it today and got the phone working on Verizon! Only using LTE, but Verizon is killing off 3g (read: CDMA) at the end of the year, so can't imagine that will be an issue. Off to the races with a cheaper phone with double the internal storage than what I could order in the US....
Update: Phone works on Verizon. Did an online chat with tech support, and told them that I needed to be able to activate a phone as CDMA-less. I got hooked with a dude who had been with them for 7 years or so and he's all "I know exactly what you want to do and how to do it." Half hour later, I'm on the network and swinging large!

Andolss said:
My device is from europe and I'm on 1 aug security update.
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Install the official tool from Sony, Xperia Companion, and run a repair. I had the same issue. Now I am on 58.0.A.22.21 with October patches. You can easily use this tool, it is the official tool from Sony, so you are not illegaly flashing or unlocking it.

Does the XQ-AS72 variant work in Canada and the USA? Why cant I find detailed specs on the sony site for bands and such. Its such a pain.

Cptnfruitloops said:
Does the XQ-AS72 variant work in Canada and the USA? Why cant I find detailed specs on the sony site for bands and such. Its such a pain.
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I bought the XQ-AS72 from a Taiwan seller and using in US now with T-Mobile.
Working fine.

misbehave said:
I bought the XQ-AS72 from a Taiwan seller and using in US now with T-Mobile.
Working fine.
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Are you getting VoLTE on T-mobile out of the box, or did you need to flash the US firmware? Thinking of ordering the same version (for double the storage and the blue color) but from what I've seen so far seems like I need to flash the US firmware in order to get VoLTE to work on T-mobile.

Hi all! Guys, I am trying to bring all known info into one list, so IF YOU KNOW YOUR DEVICE\FIRMWARE REGION, could you please share model, memory capacity, 1sim or 2 sim, region and color followed by screenshot of Software Info page?
Just enter Service menu by dialing *#*#7378423#*#* , then go to Software Info
It will help me a lot.
Here is an example of what and how I would see it.
XQ-AS52 8\128Gb Dual Sim EU (Customized EEA) Blue
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XQ-AS52 8\128Gb Dual Sim EU (Customized EEA) Silver

centaurian said:
XQ-AS52 8\128Gb Dual Sim EU (Customized EEA) Silver
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What is Customized EEA?

XQ-AS72 8\256Gb Dual Sim (HK I think) Blue
(You can also see my 1 bar reception even though there's a cell tower 50 meters outside my window)

Customized EEA - Standart non-branded version sold in Europe (UK and Russia has its own variants, same is valid for some operators):

centaurian said:
Customized EEA - Standart non-branded version sold in Europe (UK and Russia has its own variants, same is valid for some operators):
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How do I check which one I have? Using the CID I guess but how do I find it

Cptnfruitloops said:
How do I check which one I have? Using the CID I guess but how do I find it
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Huh! That's the main point and problem. For now I\We don't know any working way to check xperia 5 II CID. If we could it would solve a problem with device region identification. But for now we can only rely on what Software info says and to try to understand what SOFTWARE VERIONS like GLOBALEEA-A2, GLOBAL-C2, etc. and PRODUCT CODES means. At leats that's what I am trying to do.

@Cptnfruitloops - You have HK or TW. I can't tell which one directly - or at least from shared info.
@LOCKDOC_UA - Did you try to explore firmwares? I guess it can help you with your effort.
Very interesting for identification is also "LTA version" (Yeh I dumped it from FWs). At least for XQ-AS72, where it can be used for distinguish CN from SEA and from TW/HK (they share same elabel). It won't help to distinguish XQ-AS52 versions though, since they share same elabel.
Anyway, those labels are quite interesting in few ways.
For example TW/HK version contains information about charging voltages/currents:
And for example Japanese versions (SO-52A) contains FM radio (If you check its FCC ID: PY7-08372L https://fccid.io/PY7-08372L - compare with European version FCC ID: PY7-310Z https://fccid.io/PY7-30637Z which doesn't have it.

centaurian said:
Did you try to explore firmwares? I guess it can help you with your effort.
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You're right. Just now I discovered such info inside firmwares downloaded from xperifirm. Thanks

zwirek75 said:
XQ-AS62 - US - 128Gb, no 5G
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Who can explain why US version has no 5G support? This model has different hardware? I thought 5G modem is a part of Snapdragon 865.

Does anyone know what ROW_Commercial means?

@LOCKDOC_UA
Its simple - they decided to turn it off since it (modem HW) doesn't support 5G bands used in US (It support only bands 1, 3, 8, 28, 77, 78 - none of those will work in US).
Because of that you can't market it as 5G phone in US - Support would be overwhelmed with questions from customers - I bought this 5G phone and it doesn't work with my operator? Which operator should I use to get 5G? We are sorry - none will work. So to avoid it they simply decided to turn it off.
Also forget 5G roaming - It doesn't work anywhere yet - so even keeping surprise overseas 5G doesn't make any sense.
@Cptnfruitloops - I guess its current used modem configuration, but may be I am wrong.