Hi,
I was searching the net for reasonably cheap iphone deals and I found this company in the UK:
http://www.babbey.co.uk.pn/
the iphone 3g 16GB is for $350, + 30 pounds shipping, he ships worldwide.
He asked me to transfer the money via western union. do you think that he is a scammer? I don't know but he seems to be true. Any suggestions?
Thanks
mohgdeisat said:
Hi,
I was searching the net for reasonably cheap iphone deals and I found this company in the UK:
http://www.babbey.co.uk.pn/
the iphone 3g 16GB is for $350, + 30 pounds shipping, he ships worldwide.
He asked me to transfer the money via western union. do you think that he is a scammer? I don't know but he seems to be true. Any suggestions?
Thanks
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If it's too good to be true...
By the way are you sure he's english? -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.pn
Dave
at least he is under british control, these islands are british.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Islands
well, I don't know if it too good to be true coz I don't know how much does the iphone cost in bulk. Another thing that makes me feel relaxed is that he wants me to send the money to the UK and I am in the UK, too!
It's the Western Union bit that makes me cautious.
Also why would a UK based company register and even use a .pn domain, especially when the real .co.uk address is available?
I can't say for sure either way... but what guarantee's do you have?
If you do get scammed you'll have ignored all the warning bells... Price in $'s, Registered in the Uk, using Anon Payments, un-heard of, obscure domain, etc...
Also, look at these posts : http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...wRx&q="www.babbey.co.uk.pn"&btnG=Search&meta=
If in doubt, don't use them.
Dave
Hmm they say that they are a registered UK company under the number 04568517. how can I check if this is true?
EDIT: I checked that and found that it is true, they are a registered company (see link). is that enough for me to send my money via western union?
http://www.ukdata.com/numbers/04568517.html
Any recommendations, experts?
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Any recommendations, experts?
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Personally I wouldn't use it. But I am a sceptic and very cautious when it comes to money.
Have you read some of the tips to avoid scammers in the Marketplace? Some of his characteristics matches the warnings from other users.
Dave
dont do it..
one : The website is very poorly created, if he was a legitimate business he would more than likely use an e-commerce store.
two : googlemail email, hotmail msn, mobile numbers as contact numbers, meaning no trace back.
three : the address... he lives in a very remote place....
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...106062,0.16977&spn=0.001101,0.003455&t=h&z=18
four : a UK company trading in dollars? considering the seller would stitch himself up on the exchange rate this is definately something to question...
five : in looking up the details etc he posts randomly on forums and seems very similar to the typical
"we are an established company founded in "DATE" we are respectable and blah blah blah"
be careful.
oh and six? why western union?
and check this out..
http://www.adoos.de/post/5888156/apple_macbook_air_core_2_duo_186_ghz_133_quot_2_gb
hmmmm
Its a SCAM.
Just been on tv in Denmark. Guys like that want you to transfer through a Money Transfer Company - and then you cannot find them afterwards as those Companies dont know who gets the money.
So in Denmark the word is; NEVER transfer any money that way. Only use reliable companies - payment through credit card as we can get money back if it is a scam...
And - they use webhotels in good countries as a cheat, but are often living i Romania and places like that... !
definately looks like another scam...be careful!
So, I am not gonna do it. He called me today asking for the money and I told him I'll send the money on monday! he was not talking like a sales guy, he was speaking like this: "hello, how are you? when will you send the money" he seemed to be like a bull**** on the phone, I am not going to risk it anyway!
Thanks for your advice guys, I appreciate it
I would not do it, only if I could consider that money is worth nothing to me...Western Union? legal company would use another method of payment...
And yes gmail hotmail adresses seems to be poor...
good luke and cross your fingers
I even once had trouble with Visa card, then how would you follow our order after Western Union?
If it sound to good to be true chances are it is . its got Scam Written All over it the
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I decided to write this review to warn others from dealing with paypal, they have charged me before completing the registration process, and after charging me they have asked for me to fax them extra documents that I don't have, I told them that I don't have that documents, and I asked them to find an alternative way, they replied stupidly asking the same question, I called them and wasted my money on international calls, every one of their rude employees gave me different answers. at the end I asked them to close my account, they refused, they said that the cannot close the account neither they can activate it if I don't send them the faxed papers. Simply they are either stupid or they were stealing me. I still couldn’t get my money back, but I had to cancel my credit card because they had a continuous access on it, and that cost me allot also. There should be a law to watch such companies...
You watch your money, and don't trust those companies that call themselves as a company for your own security; it is a company that will have a full access to your credit card... I lost much with my registration trial with Paypal (www.paypal.com) be careful from this company.
Not my experience. I had to fax them papers on my credit card, if I remember correctly. But that wasn't a problem after that. I think it was a bank statement. I use PayPal almost every week to buy from eBay.
perhaps its because you live in what is considered quite a dodgy country by many others?
all ive had to do with paypal, and ive been using them for years, is enter my card and bank details online, they performed a chargeback on my account of $1 and i had to enter the reference that showed on my bank statement
Paypal has always worked very well for me. From what I remember, I gave them my bank account information and then they made three small deposits. To verify, I had to let them know the amounts of those three deposits. Now, 100's of transactions later, I am a veteran and still highly satisfied. Sorry you had an unfavorable experience.
Ok... Maybe you had some good experience there, but I advice you all to have a look on this site (www.nopaypal.com) and also you may search Google for other peoples reviews on this issue... in the site I gave here, you will find too many stories that are simillar to mine..
they also say that with paypal things goes fine until you face a small silly problem, then you start to suffer, one of them says, that he sold an item for a specific amount of money and after he recieved the payment to paypal they have limited his account and he cannot get him money from them until now !!
read and see how they deal with people,
if you think that they read those fax papers then you are mistaken, someone says that he faked the papers and faxed them and things went fine, where is the security in that? you can steal a card number and fake the fax paper, the more secure way was the $1.95 decuction and verifying it by the 4 pin number, I did that but they didn't satisfy with it, they are like machines, they Don't have minds to use and think, when I be honest with them and tell them that I don't have such a paper, they reply saying: "we are still waiting for the fax" like robots....
the main problem there is that they are not trained to handle problems, when you have a problem then you are stuck there....
one more important issue that i have mentioned: how come they have charged me before verifying my card, they claim that they limited my account because they cannot verify my account, then what if I stole that card, why did they charge the real owner then? they should have asked for all of the papers they needed then they could start charging, that is really silly, common people search google and have a look on www.nopaypal.com, there are books talking about paypal's cheating, you can read everyday a new story there... if you had a good experience with them then this is not meaning that they are good, it is just you are lucky that you didn't face any problem yet!
Okay, let's get real here.
What documents would they ask for that a card owner wouldn't have? Why don't you have the documents?
The domain name, NoPaypal.com, was registered back in 2001 in order to drum up support for a class action lawsuit. Yep, that person had a bad experience when Paypal was new. The "Bash Paypal Bandwagon" was in full force several years ago. You are a little late.
If I stopped using every service/vendor that someone had a bad experience with, I'd have to stop using everything.
If I go to a restaurant that sucks, I don't go back. Don't run around like chicken little yelling "the sky is falling".
they wanted either a water bill or electricity bill in my name, well my card is not issued from the same country that I am currently living in, I was living there once, but even at that time I was renting a home so the bills were not in my name, and I have no other document to send them in my name, so this is realistic, if you don't like to believe that they are theievs then you are free, keep dealing with them , everyone is free in this life, I just liked to warn the other people and give an advice, so take my advice or leave it, but don't regret later!!
EMU said:
they wanted either a water bill or electricity bill in my name, well my card is not issued from the same country that I am currently living in, I was living there once, but even at that time I was renting a home so the bills were not in my name, and I have no other document to send them in my name
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so you have a bank in a country were you dont live, no way you can confirm your current and previous addresses and you are complaining that paypal wont deal with you!!!!!
good! im glad paypal wont deal with you, if you were to rip me off, what could i do about it? i couldnt find out where you live or where you bank.
wake up, smell the coffee, get yourself a bank and a real address that you own and pay your way in, then maybe, just maybe youll have some financial credibility
jeesh!
dont tell me... you are nigerian and you have $1 200 419 that you need to invest, but your governmnt charges too much tax.........................
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you people thing yourself something?? huh..
work your mind a little bit, I dont have to give you all the details, dump yourself and deal whoever you like to, I just wrote my experience, and as I said before you are free to get the advice or leave it,
are you working for paypal guys? you appear to be from UK? by the way I am not nigerean and I do not care about you or the companies in your country, if you want to realy talk about ropping people, then read carefully my story and see how paypal took the money before even getting the fax, then what if really I was ropping someone's card? why did they charge him before getting sure? I was ropped by paypal and didn't get my money back yet.... maybe you cannot think wide.. it is your problem, that is why in your country we always hear such stories, but thanks God we don't have much like those stories from local companies, you even didn't use your mind to look at the flag near my name and your wide imagination lead you to nigeria, cool
for your information, my bank is now handling the case with this stupid paypal company, I respect my bank and I am very happy of their fast reaction against what paypal did, I wont be posting any further details about this topic in this forum cuz it looks like the people here are to fight not to get advices and advice others, you could have read it and either propose me a solution for my problem like someone who did in other forum, or you could just close that page, but you prefer to defend paypal, they probably from your way of defending, you are one of them !
Good luck for the good people..
the reference to nigeria was a joke, the clue was in the monetary amount, for someone so concerned about scams, im surprised youve never heard of the "nigerian 419" scam
google it
btw, i know what country your flag is from, i said as much in my first reply when i politely commented on the fact that many businesses in the world may not trust doing business with people from that country, hence the requests for additional verification of who you are.
the fact that you bank in another country and have no id relating to where you live really makes it of no surprise that they dont want to deal with you.
they charged US$1.95....... not exactly fraud of the century is it?
after sending one item paypal says..international shipment
We are sorry for the delay in transferring the money that was paid by Katrina Baral into your PayPal account. We hereby inform you that the money that we are ordered to transfer into your PayPal account (€180.00 EUR) is too Small for us to transfer into your PayPal account due to International Transfer Limit from our PayPal Transfer Department Unit and the new Policy of our PayPal. So the real amount that can reach your account from our PayPal Transfer Desk start from €400.00 EUR upward. we contacted Katrina Baral about this situation to make an additional payment of €220.00 EUR into your PayPal account.
We are happy to tell you that Katrina Baral have made an additional payment of €220.00 EUR into your PayPal account which is already deducted from the buyer account. It's already confirmed and approved by us which means the total amount of €400.00 EUR is approved and it is ready to be credited into your PayPal account TODAY. So we think we can sort the problem out by you sending the Excess Fund. Katrina Baral ask us to tell you to help him send the excess fund of €200.00 EUR to his daughter and use the extra €20.00 EUR for the western union charges and for your transportation.
You are advised now to go to any western union Outlet/Office and send the excess fund of €200.00 EUR to his daughter and get back to us with the western union details so we can verify and get your account credited without any further delay.
What do you guys and gals think is the cheapest web site to buy cell phones (with out any contact), even whole sales online will work.........
eddyve had a good one........
eddyve said:
HI Guys
I received a mail from a friend to look at a website www.I'm_A_Scam.com(I don't like scams)
They offer PDA's, Phones, PC's, Laptops, etc at amazingly low prices (an Apple powerpro for 250 euro!). It seems to be a Chinese website and maybe our Chinese friends from this forum can check this and if this site is scam, then we should spread the word or try to remove the website.
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I found a couple:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=1809
www.elephantcellular.com/
if in the UK
http://www.cex.co.uk/index.php
also http://www.3coffer.com/ looks like a scam site!
http://www.3coffer.com/
has SCAM written all over it, one of the classic signs of a scam is that they will use a free email account - they use yahoo in this case.
an Apple powerpro for 250 euro!
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http://www.3coffer.com/productinfo.asp?id=2789
Ok it's not got scam written all over it - it's SCREAMING
SCAM SCAM I'M A BIG DIRTY SCAM
kingsizeriz said:
if in the UK
http://www.cex.co.uk/index.php
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Now that is a legal store but I've always found that to be way way overpriced for second-hand gear.
all depends really,
i found ebay sell items £20/30 cheaper however CEX give a 12 month warranty with their items! and if you get grade A / B they are usually mint!
i got an unlocked XDA Trion grade A for £175 which i thought was a blinding deal!
XDA's on there are the highest price range - SPV's lowest so check out all the names for items and you may find a better deal
The wiki list of prices showed this shop to be the cheapest one! http://www.tigaduacellular.com
I tried to order from them, please see what happened! DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THEM! PLEASE!
Here we go, the e-mail conversation with their sales department:
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Please Confirm Your Tiga Dua Cellular: Order #
to me
Hello XXX,
Thank you for your order. We have the phone you order in stock.
We have the EU and Asia version available.
We will dispatch your order after we have verified your payment. Please
confirm if you want to cancel this order or want to continue this order.
So we can provide you with our payment information.
If you have any questions regarding your order, don't be hesitate to contact
us.
Best Regards,
Mr. XXX
http://www.tigaduacellular.com
Email: [email protected]
Phone:
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Me to the shop
Hello,
Thanks for your extremely fast reply! I would like to purchase the EU version of the phone. So please continue with the Touch Pro EU version order.
Sincerely Yours,
XXX
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Me to the shop again
Hi,
I'm wondering if you have noted my message that i would like to continue with the purchase of the Touch Pro EU version as noted below. Now I find myself missing the payment information, which I am waiting from you to send me. The first contact from you was extremely fasy, which I'm thankful for, but approximately how long it can take to tell me how to pay?
The thing that you don't have option to pay via Credit card is already quite annoying, but even more annoying is to wait for the bank transfer payment information. Nothing personal, I'm just used to that shops would be more eager to get the money from the customers.
Sincerely yours,
XXX
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to me
Actually, we have send the payment information to you, the day you reply the
email.
We don't know if you already received it or not.
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Me to the shop
Hello,
Alright, I see! So the payment information is not sent via e-mail but by post. I am honestly sorry for my misunderstanding. I was assuming to get it to my e-mail. Thanks for the info. I'll be looking forward getting that information. Again sorry for my bad behaviour. all the best!
Regards,
XXX
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to me
Of course we have sent the information via e-mail.
Well I guess you're not serious buyer anyway.
Hope you will get your "FREE PHONE" with other website.
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Me to the shop
Hi,
I would really like to buy the phone, but have not received any confirmation? I double checked my spam folder also, nothing in there! I am really serious, as soon as you can provide me with the payment information i would like to purchase the phone.
Because i tried to be the nicest possible to you, i will take all the e-mails, collect a nice package of them and get in contact with your superior. This is not customer service.
You will hear from me, Mr. XXX. Too bad that you werent able to do your job. I will make sure no one will ever buy from your shop again if this harm done by you is not corrected.
Think twice before you fool around like that, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I WASNT A SERIOUS BUYER?
Sincerely,
XXX
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Me to the shop
PS. this information, and all the emails we have been sending to each other will soon be found from all the biggest mobile phone forums, where your customers are also coming.
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to me
Oh yes.
And you're just a customers who don't pay but want mobile phones.
Or maybe you're just another Nigerian buyer.
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Me to the shop
Excuse me!
I was ASKING YOU to send me the PAYMENT INFORMATION! BECAUSE YOU FAILED TO DO SO IN THE FIRST PLACE!
All this will be reported to your superior. Thanks.
Regards,
XXX
DAMN!!!!! what the hell....
Unbelievable!!!!
Thnx 4 sharing dude!
I was gona buy from them but when a seen they only do "Bank To Bank Transfers" a shat out of it. Don't see why any site wouldn't do paypal.
adamdon89 said:
I was gona buy from them but when a seen they only do "Bank To Bank Transfers" a shat out of it. Don't see why any site wouldn't do paypal.
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I'm glad i never got those payment instructions. who knows where my money could be right now!
And also remember, when ordering from them, you will probably have to pay the toll and VAT at your home country, so it really isn't even that cheap.
OMG
What a clueless webshop contact.
I think you should inform the owner of the shop so you can get this guy fired!
thanks for sharing
Amazing.......
You should copy the web-link from here and send them an email with the details of this post..... not good at all? and "who" pays "bank to bank" only these days - very strange indeed?
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WizzarD-me said:
What a clueless webshop contact.
I think you should inform the owner of the shop so you can get this guy fired!
thanks for sharing
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I thought to do so, but after doing whois pings on the domain, found out that the website is registered to a person with a same surname than the person answering my e-mail. Family biz.. They can go to hell with their stupid shop, just ordered from expansys.
Sounds very dodgie.... Thanks for sharing....
I bought from highstreet "Kamla" in London on Tottenham Court Road... UK version for £499.
A bit more expensive but from my past experience with HTC P3600 which was quite unstable initially, I thought it's better to buy from a shop where I can go back to if anything goes wrong.
I tell you...that is nuts. I had an issue with the first Touch Pro I ordered. Thank goodness I did it on E-Bay. Paypal refunded my money after my dispute, found another seller, and bought two of them with next day air delivery. Though I had one seller try to mess around with me, money was safe, and still had my Touch Pro within a week of the UK's launch.
Good luck with your next seller.
if it wasn't blindingly obvious to you already:
DON'T PAY BY BANK TRANSFER OR WESTERN UNION.
A merchant who doesn't take cards is generally always a scammer; bank transfers/WU are irreversible, this is precisely why they're required by scammers.
If you want to buy a device, buy it on a card; the price is cheaper than average for a good reason, use your noodle.
I saw the company posted an ad on here (POST HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN) and this sounds like the old african prince email scam
Does anyone know anything about it though? I did a google search and really every website posted is their ad on another forum so it sounds sketchy.
Scammers!!!!scammers!!!scammers!!!
SCAMMERS!!!!SCAMMERS!!!SCAMMERS!!! Bukas Limited and Product Advance Limited and Rex Lawrence the CEO are not legit and all the same company/person. I ordered out of curiosity and a desire for a side business reselling items. They came back with an additional charge for shipping after the first Western Union. Then they used a no name shipping company called Daralex. That I am pretty sure is just a bad web page as not all the buttons work. Then they stated that they oops sent too many and tried to get more money. I refused and they said I would need to send more money to ship the one again. Needless to say I gave up at that point. I took it as far as I felt could be without significant financial loss.
is this a legit website?
i mean this is a crazy price! i would love for it to be true! lol
http://aspirebuy.com/us-productinfo.asp?id=7088
Dido
I was just surfing on the web and came across the same site, I would love to know as well!
I highly doubt its legit and being based in China would make communication difficult in case something went wrong...those prices are pretty much half the price in the states so I think its too good to be true. I could be wrong though, but I know I wouldn't take the chance.
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我也很想知道？
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You can say that again.
85gallon said:
You can say that again.
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我也很想知道
means,
I really want to know too.
in case anyone was wondering...
I just hit that link while at work, and large parts of the site were blocked by my AV as an "identified high risk website."
So its probably not legit.
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我也很想知道
means,
I really want to know too.
in case anyone was wondering...
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I knew that.
sometime the price can wrong
Tried it
i know it seems sketchy so i tried it out anyways and found that they only accept paypal if you buy $6000 worth of items so not doing that i was just gonna buy $300 lol so yea no SGS2 for me they only accept money gram or western union for purchases under $6000 so it seems pretty sketchy to me
no to find a way to get three sgs2s for $750 lol
ALL FAKE>
they are all chinese knockoffs of the real thing so they are not authentic
here are 2 ppl who actually tried (i think lol)
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/search/?areaID=36&subAreaID=&query=aspirebuy&catAbb=sss
is this online site legit?
According their certificate posted in their web site. The company name is: 北京金正外贸有限公司 Beijing JinZheng Foreign Trading Co. Ltd. The owner is 程亮.
Their listed address is listed as: No.7, Jinrong Street, Xicheng District, Beijing, China
中国北京市西城区金融街7号. 7 Jing Rong Daijie, Xi Cheng District (City West).
This is a large commercial building called Yinglan International Financial Center英蓝国际金融中心. Google map shows a large skyscraper building.
In this building, the major occupants are famous banks such as J.P. Morgan China, China Export Import Bank, China Industrial Commercial Banks. HSBC Banks. Well, they have a Starbucks.
Checking Chinese search engine BaiDu "Aspirebuy" or "Aspirebuy.com" are not listed. However, "Aspire" is model name of Acer Laptop Notebook Tablet.
Objectively, China has heavy import taxes of most foreign goods, typically over 33%. It would not be logical to source foreign products (such as Korean or Japanese or Taiwanese) export from China.
The most logical place to source these good are Hong Kong where impose no import tax on same goods.
Be wary of the internet