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I decided to write this review to warn others from dealing with paypal, they have charged me before completing the registration process, and after charging me they have asked for me to fax them extra documents that I don't have, I told them that I don't have that documents, and I asked them to find an alternative way, they replied stupidly asking the same question, I called them and wasted my money on international calls, every one of their rude employees gave me different answers. at the end I asked them to close my account, they refused, they said that the cannot close the account neither they can activate it if I don't send them the faxed papers. Simply they are either stupid or they were stealing me. I still couldn’t get my money back, but I had to cancel my credit card because they had a continuous access on it, and that cost me allot also. There should be a law to watch such companies...
You watch your money, and don't trust those companies that call themselves as a company for your own security; it is a company that will have a full access to your credit card... I lost much with my registration trial with Paypal (www.paypal.com) be careful from this company.
Not my experience. I had to fax them papers on my credit card, if I remember correctly. But that wasn't a problem after that. I think it was a bank statement. I use PayPal almost every week to buy from eBay.
perhaps its because you live in what is considered quite a dodgy country by many others?
all ive had to do with paypal, and ive been using them for years, is enter my card and bank details online, they performed a chargeback on my account of $1 and i had to enter the reference that showed on my bank statement
Paypal has always worked very well for me. From what I remember, I gave them my bank account information and then they made three small deposits. To verify, I had to let them know the amounts of those three deposits. Now, 100's of transactions later, I am a veteran and still highly satisfied. Sorry you had an unfavorable experience.
Ok... Maybe you had some good experience there, but I advice you all to have a look on this site (www.nopaypal.com) and also you may search Google for other peoples reviews on this issue... in the site I gave here, you will find too many stories that are simillar to mine..
they also say that with paypal things goes fine until you face a small silly problem, then you start to suffer, one of them says, that he sold an item for a specific amount of money and after he recieved the payment to paypal they have limited his account and he cannot get him money from them until now !!
read and see how they deal with people,
if you think that they read those fax papers then you are mistaken, someone says that he faked the papers and faxed them and things went fine, where is the security in that? you can steal a card number and fake the fax paper, the more secure way was the $1.95 decuction and verifying it by the 4 pin number, I did that but they didn't satisfy with it, they are like machines, they Don't have minds to use and think, when I be honest with them and tell them that I don't have such a paper, they reply saying: "we are still waiting for the fax" like robots....
the main problem there is that they are not trained to handle problems, when you have a problem then you are stuck there....
one more important issue that i have mentioned: how come they have charged me before verifying my card, they claim that they limited my account because they cannot verify my account, then what if I stole that card, why did they charge the real owner then? they should have asked for all of the papers they needed then they could start charging, that is really silly, common people search google and have a look on www.nopaypal.com, there are books talking about paypal's cheating, you can read everyday a new story there... if you had a good experience with them then this is not meaning that they are good, it is just you are lucky that you didn't face any problem yet!
Okay, let's get real here.
What documents would they ask for that a card owner wouldn't have? Why don't you have the documents?
The domain name, NoPaypal.com, was registered back in 2001 in order to drum up support for a class action lawsuit. Yep, that person had a bad experience when Paypal was new. The "Bash Paypal Bandwagon" was in full force several years ago. You are a little late.
If I stopped using every service/vendor that someone had a bad experience with, I'd have to stop using everything.
If I go to a restaurant that sucks, I don't go back. Don't run around like chicken little yelling "the sky is falling".
they wanted either a water bill or electricity bill in my name, well my card is not issued from the same country that I am currently living in, I was living there once, but even at that time I was renting a home so the bills were not in my name, and I have no other document to send them in my name, so this is realistic, if you don't like to believe that they are theievs then you are free, keep dealing with them , everyone is free in this life, I just liked to warn the other people and give an advice, so take my advice or leave it, but don't regret later!!
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they wanted either a water bill or electricity bill in my name, well my card is not issued from the same country that I am currently living in, I was living there once, but even at that time I was renting a home so the bills were not in my name, and I have no other document to send them in my name
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so you have a bank in a country were you dont live, no way you can confirm your current and previous addresses and you are complaining that paypal wont deal with you!!!!!
good! im glad paypal wont deal with you, if you were to rip me off, what could i do about it? i couldnt find out where you live or where you bank.
wake up, smell the coffee, get yourself a bank and a real address that you own and pay your way in, then maybe, just maybe youll have some financial credibility
jeesh!
dont tell me... you are nigerian and you have $1 200 419 that you need to invest, but your governmnt charges too much tax.........................
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you people thing yourself something?? huh..
work your mind a little bit, I dont have to give you all the details, dump yourself and deal whoever you like to, I just wrote my experience, and as I said before you are free to get the advice or leave it,
are you working for paypal guys? you appear to be from UK? by the way I am not nigerean and I do not care about you or the companies in your country, if you want to realy talk about ropping people, then read carefully my story and see how paypal took the money before even getting the fax, then what if really I was ropping someone's card? why did they charge him before getting sure? I was ropped by paypal and didn't get my money back yet.... maybe you cannot think wide.. it is your problem, that is why in your country we always hear such stories, but thanks God we don't have much like those stories from local companies, you even didn't use your mind to look at the flag near my name and your wide imagination lead you to nigeria, cool
for your information, my bank is now handling the case with this stupid paypal company, I respect my bank and I am very happy of their fast reaction against what paypal did, I wont be posting any further details about this topic in this forum cuz it looks like the people here are to fight not to get advices and advice others, you could have read it and either propose me a solution for my problem like someone who did in other forum, or you could just close that page, but you prefer to defend paypal, they probably from your way of defending, you are one of them !
Good luck for the good people..
the reference to nigeria was a joke, the clue was in the monetary amount, for someone so concerned about scams, im surprised youve never heard of the "nigerian 419" scam
google it
btw, i know what country your flag is from, i said as much in my first reply when i politely commented on the fact that many businesses in the world may not trust doing business with people from that country, hence the requests for additional verification of who you are.
the fact that you bank in another country and have no id relating to where you live really makes it of no surprise that they dont want to deal with you.
they charged US$1.95....... not exactly fraud of the century is it?
after sending one item paypal says..international shipment
We are sorry for the delay in transferring the money that was paid by Katrina Baral into your PayPal account. We hereby inform you that the money that we are ordered to transfer into your PayPal account (€180.00 EUR) is too Small for us to transfer into your PayPal account due to International Transfer Limit from our PayPal Transfer Department Unit and the new Policy of our PayPal. So the real amount that can reach your account from our PayPal Transfer Desk start from €400.00 EUR upward. we contacted Katrina Baral about this situation to make an additional payment of €220.00 EUR into your PayPal account.
We are happy to tell you that Katrina Baral have made an additional payment of €220.00 EUR into your PayPal account which is already deducted from the buyer account. It's already confirmed and approved by us which means the total amount of €400.00 EUR is approved and it is ready to be credited into your PayPal account TODAY. So we think we can sort the problem out by you sending the Excess Fund. Katrina Baral ask us to tell you to help him send the excess fund of €200.00 EUR to his daughter and use the extra €20.00 EUR for the western union charges and for your transportation.
You are advised now to go to any western union Outlet/Office and send the excess fund of €200.00 EUR to his daughter and get back to us with the western union details so we can verify and get your account credited without any further delay.
Hi,
I was searching the net for reasonably cheap iphone deals and I found this company in the UK:
http://www.babbey.co.uk.pn/
the iphone 3g 16GB is for $350, + 30 pounds shipping, he ships worldwide.
He asked me to transfer the money via western union. do you think that he is a scammer? I don't know but he seems to be true. Any suggestions?
Thanks
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Hi,
I was searching the net for reasonably cheap iphone deals and I found this company in the UK:
http://www.babbey.co.uk.pn/
the iphone 3g 16GB is for $350, + 30 pounds shipping, he ships worldwide.
He asked me to transfer the money via western union. do you think that he is a scammer? I don't know but he seems to be true. Any suggestions?
Thanks
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If it's too good to be true...
By the way are you sure he's english? -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.pn
Dave
at least he is under british control, these islands are british.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Islands
well, I don't know if it too good to be true coz I don't know how much does the iphone cost in bulk. Another thing that makes me feel relaxed is that he wants me to send the money to the UK and I am in the UK, too!
It's the Western Union bit that makes me cautious.
Also why would a UK based company register and even use a .pn domain, especially when the real .co.uk address is available?
I can't say for sure either way... but what guarantee's do you have?
If you do get scammed you'll have ignored all the warning bells... Price in $'s, Registered in the Uk, using Anon Payments, un-heard of, obscure domain, etc...
Also, look at these posts : http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...wRx&q="www.babbey.co.uk.pn"&btnG=Search&meta=
If in doubt, don't use them.
Dave
Hmm they say that they are a registered UK company under the number 04568517. how can I check if this is true?
EDIT: I checked that and found that it is true, they are a registered company (see link). is that enough for me to send my money via western union?
http://www.ukdata.com/numbers/04568517.html
Any recommendations, experts?
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Personally I wouldn't use it. But I am a sceptic and very cautious when it comes to money.
Have you read some of the tips to avoid scammers in the Marketplace? Some of his characteristics matches the warnings from other users.
Dave
dont do it..
one : The website is very poorly created, if he was a legitimate business he would more than likely use an e-commerce store.
two : googlemail email, hotmail msn, mobile numbers as contact numbers, meaning no trace back.
three : the address... he lives in a very remote place....
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...106062,0.16977&spn=0.001101,0.003455&t=h&z=18
four : a UK company trading in dollars? considering the seller would stitch himself up on the exchange rate this is definately something to question...
five : in looking up the details etc he posts randomly on forums and seems very similar to the typical
"we are an established company founded in "DATE" we are respectable and blah blah blah"
be careful.
oh and six? why western union?
and check this out..
http://www.adoos.de/post/5888156/apple_macbook_air_core_2_duo_186_ghz_133_quot_2_gb
hmmmm
Its a SCAM.
Just been on tv in Denmark. Guys like that want you to transfer through a Money Transfer Company - and then you cannot find them afterwards as those Companies dont know who gets the money.
So in Denmark the word is; NEVER transfer any money that way. Only use reliable companies - payment through credit card as we can get money back if it is a scam...
And - they use webhotels in good countries as a cheat, but are often living i Romania and places like that... !
definately looks like another scam...be careful!
So, I am not gonna do it. He called me today asking for the money and I told him I'll send the money on monday! he was not talking like a sales guy, he was speaking like this: "hello, how are you? when will you send the money" he seemed to be like a bull**** on the phone, I am not going to risk it anyway!
Thanks for your advice guys, I appreciate it
I would not do it, only if I could consider that money is worth nothing to me...Western Union? legal company would use another method of payment...
And yes gmail hotmail adresses seems to be poor...
good luke and cross your fingers
I even once had trouble with Visa card, then how would you follow our order after Western Union?
If it sound to good to be true chances are it is . its got Scam Written All over it the
Here is my story:
http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?k=120187
I'm going to send them an LBA tomorrow morning and go the legal route. Disgusting. Totaly ignored and swept under the carpet.
Shame really, as its probably a hardware defect and they could replace the phone and I would be happy.
Use them at your own risk.
Shame to hear this...
Wish you the best in all the process
I have always avoided them...Hope it works out for you.
Wow. That was a pretty piss-poor response from the Expansys employee. I've had trouble with Expansys before but was going to buy through them again (the Touch Pro 2). I'm going to take my money elsewhere though now, pay a bit more, but at least get to deal with someone who doesn't have an attitude.
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Wow. That was a pretty piss-poor response from the Expansys employee. I've had trouble with Expansys before but was going to buy through them again (the Touch Pro 2). I'm going to take my money elsewhere though now, pay a bit more, but at least get to deal with someone who doesn't have an attitude.
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Indeed, very shocking and something I would never tolerate from a member of my teams or company. Here is my response, just in case they delete it:
"Thank you Yoni and Anita. For the record, I have spoken to your sales team, 3 times over the course of the week on the phone and 3 times via email - maybe now you can understand why I am so frustrated? I had the RMA form emailed to me and fully filled out by myself as early as Wednesday however, I was advised that I needed to wait for a response to this Forum post BEFORE an RMA number would be authorised - hence the 2 phone calls and 3 emails to chase this up. I question why its taken a week for this and also why i STILL have not received the RMA number?
BTW, for a period yesterday your main customer services number rang four times and then went dead - i tried this three tmes, with the same result.
Pete, your response is unprofessional and unwarranted. Volunteer, part time, full time or community service, when you respond with that red banner you are representing Expansys and all its employees. If you wish to be rude to a business customer who is clearly frustrated and has been let down by the support process you should first; ensure you are in full receipt of the facts, two; remember you are representing THE company and three be curteous - no matter how rude the customer is. A well trained customer services representative should never be sarcastic, pedantic or patronising. If I was an employee of Expansys who get there monthly rent paid by people like me (and my company) and I had read that response I would not be a happy on how you have spoken to a potential sales lead for many thousands over the next few months.
This clearly demonstrates why using untrained volunteers to help on a support forums is a very bad idea.
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BTW, this "After 10 days products covered under warranty should be returned to the manufacturer for repair or replacement" is in clear breach of the Sales of Goods act."
FINALY got an RMA number now my business account manager is back at work. Can't believe its been such a fiasco.
Good to hear, you got rma number.
Stunning, truley stunning. I have spoken to a few of you over the phone now, each one promising action and nothing. I guess I have no choice but to go the legal route now.
A letter before action will be in the recored post tomorrow afternoon for selling a product which is not fit for purpose under the Sales of Goods Act.
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Stunning, truley stunning. I have spoken to a few of you over the phone now, each one promising action and nothing. I guess I have no choice but to go the legal route now.
A letter before action will be in the recored post tomorrow afternoon for selling a product which is not fit for purpose under the Sales of Goods Act.
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Attorney? FAIL. UK. Your obviously not very good are you as you would know that you dont have "Sales of goods act" in the US. Your not a good advert.
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Btw, to anyone else reading this thats not a wana-be-lawyer company. I have now spoken with Expansys worldwide MD and I have a brand new unit in the post. The senior management team have now gone some way to restoring my confidence in Expansys.
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This clearly demonstrates why using untrained volunteers to help on a support forums is a very bad idea.
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It certainly clearly demonstrates why using the wrong mode of support for a device is a bad idea. As the guy on the forum told you, there was an RMA form on the site. Personally, I would have called for an RMA initially and I would have been calling customer services and not sales as you state you did. Before getting so wound up about it, why don't you take a step back and look at it from a logical point of view? How would a public forum be able to discuss individual faults? For anything that is specific to you such as a return, It's always going to be better to contact the company direct with a phone call or an email, a forum just isn't the place for that kind of thing and to be fair to the guy that snapped at you, you were taking a quite abrasive tone. Maybe you didn't intend it that way, but it certainly came out that way in text.
Ok .... first off why are you getting wound up unless you are PeteGraham?
second, I did phone sales and emailed "enliven". I was told to post on the TECHNICAL SUPPORT forums for them to confirm it was an issue.... note, its a TECHNICAL SUPPORT forum.... thats why i posted my "indivivual fault". I was told that until they said it was an RMA (by Yoni) then I could not return it, does that make it clear?
For your information the head of corporate sales has said to me, and these are quotes, "we dropped the ball on this" and "we made an utter mess of it" and "Roger (the MD) will be performing a complete review of the sales and support process" based on my email conversation and the evidence presented to him.
The sales line who messed up by telling me I needed to post on the forums, the guy on the forums (whether he likes it or not, DOES represent Exanpsys as he comes across in RED) and acted unprofessionaly and insultingly without first knowing ALL the facts.
Get wound up all you like (not sure why? You weren't involed in the drama) but Expansys have now appologised to me and as soon as the MD/Head of Corporate Sales were involved, very quickly replaced the unit - no questions asked. They have now gone a very long way to restoring my faith in them.
Oh and why did I phone the sales line?
http://www.expansys.com/customerservice.aspx#returnfaulty
If your goods arrive faulty or develop a fault within the first 10 days, you can return them to eXpansys for repair or replacement.
Please contact the sales team on +44 (0)161 868 0868 or download this RMA form (click here) and follow the instructions to authorise the return of goods
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And btw, the person on the sales line also emailed me the RMA form at the same time but again told me to post first for an RMA number.
I've also informed them that the "If your goods arrive faulty or develop a fault within the first 10 days, you can return them to eXpansys for repair or replacement" is in breach of the Sales Of Goods Act here in the UK and they are breaking the law - note, this instruction is applied to both consumers and corporate customers.
So, like the guy on the Expansys forums, maybe you should be in full receipt of the facts before posting (oh.... and read the Expansys FAQ for a start!)
The only thing i can rely on is this: http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Negri_Electronics
anybody have experience with them?
http://negrielectronics.com
I ordered a Lumia 820 and 920 from them and I really recommend you. I live in Mexico City and I haven't problem to my packages. They ship to a lot of countries via UPS and Fedex (I got my two phones by Fedex). They can help you with the customs in your country if you ask them. Five stars rated by me.
imeem said:
The only thing i can rely on is this: http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Negri_Electronics
anybody have experience with them?
http://negrielectronics.com
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Reseller ratings, unfortunately, is not a good sample to seek accurate reviews from. 9 times out of 10 customers only use this site to leave negative comments. While only 2% of all orders actually leave reviews to begin with.
Reviews found here are more accurate: http://nel.ec/NEGoogleReviews
These reviews are taken directly from the customer, by Google Checkout, in their follow up email that is sent to all shipped orders. This will give you a better sample, and size for your request.
- Negri Electronics
Negri Electronics said:
Reseller ratings, unfortunately, is not a good sample to seek accurate reviews from. 9 times out of 10 customers only use this site to leave negative comments. While only 2% of all orders actually leave reviews to begin with.
Reviews found here are more accurate: http://nel.ec/NEGoogleReviews
These reviews are taken directly from the customer, by Google Checkout, in their follow up email that is sent to all shipped orders. This will give you a better sample, and size for your request.
- Negri Electronics
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wow never expected a person related to Negri Electronics to reply to this thread.
Ordered 2 HTC Butterfly and they were cancelled without explanation
Last week I bought 2 HTC Butterfly, from Negri Electronics. At first, the site wouldn´t let me buy 2, so I bought just one for $ 779.50.
I came back the nex day for the other one that I needed, and saw that the price had gone up to $ 818. I really needed these phones so I bought it anyways. A few days later, I get a refund notice from the 2 sites I used to pay for my purchase, Paypal and Amazon, and no email, no explanation whatsoever from Negri. There is something very fishy about this company, I´¨ve been researching online and found several complaints about them.
The phones I purchased and were cancelled without any reason are listed as IN STOCK on their web site, if I were you I would stay away from these people, just my 2 cents.
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Last week I bought 2 HTC Butterfly, from Negri Electronics. At first, the site wouldn´t let me buy 2, so I bought just one for $ 779.50.
I came back the nex day for the other one that I needed, and saw that the price had gone up to $ 818. I really needed these phones so I bought it anyways. A few days later, I get a refund notice from the 2 sites I used to pay for my purchase, Paypal and Amazon, and no email, no explanation whatsoever from Negri. There is something very fishy about this company, I´¨ve been researching online and found several complaints about them.
The phones I purchased and were cancelled without any reason are listed as IN STOCK on their web site, if I were you I would stay away from these people, just my 2 cents.
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Very sorry to hear about your issue. Did you ask anyone at NegriCare about these issues before posting on this board? Often times asking a customer care representative you are able to get an answer so your post on this board is complete. Instead it just leaves others in the dark thinking that we did something deceitful.
If you have an order number, you can contact [email protected] and you can check on the status. Here are some possibly reasons it was canceled.
1. You paid with Google or Amazon and the order was considered "fraud" and it was canceled. At this point no email is sent from our behalf.
2. You paid with PayPal for a color BLACK Butterfly, which is not released. At this point the order would be canceled after 30 days automatically. We do not have the option to extend that.
3. The order was canceled because you sent an email to request just this. In this case your order would have been canceled and no email would be sent.
These are all possibly scenarios. There isn't anything "fishy" about canceled orders. In fact, it happens alot. The screening process is quite involved and out of our control. Often times the customer would be furious with us when we didn't do anything. This is why it's best to contact the company prior to venting on message boards as it might not have been under our control.
Please contact us at your earliest convenience. It's never nice to be called "fishy" and we would like to make sure that you don't have that opinion of us any longer.
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Hippolito said:
There is something very fishy about this company, I´¨ve been researching online and found several complaints about them.
The phones I purchased and were cancelled without any reason are listed as IN STOCK on their web site, if I were you I would stay away from these people, just my 2 cents.
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You will always find complaints if you look hard enough. We just hope that you are able to see past the petty issues that a few customers had and focus on the great experiences others have had - and posted about.
Here are a few 3rd party sites that collect reviews of Negri Electronics
http://nel.ec/Y8f2mS
http://nel.ec/ZH6Pqf
http://nel.ec/R7riBe
Please keep in mind that it's very difficult to get a customer to leave a good review even if they have had a great experience. Often times the only time a review is left is when it's negative. Of over 56,000 successful orders, only the above have left reviews. Of that population, look at how many are positive.
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I had a misfortune to buy a defective phone from this web-store. After the return, multiple emails, delays, unreasonable and unfair offers, they have finally suggested a partial refund which I agreed to just to be ignored once again. Today, 7 months since return, our dispute is still not settled. I wouldn't call that trustworthy.
Something has happened to them. Their "contact' page is missing. and my replies to my existing email chain are unanswered for 3 weeks.
Obviously many people have serious suspicions if this website is legit or it is just a scam, so i decided to start this thread where everyone can share his experience with this seller.
Nice!
Hopefully this site is legit and everyone can get their beloved phones on their hands...
Maybe the buyers can post something like this:
Purchase date:
Order number:
Tracking number: yes/no (no need to post the real tracking number)
Shipment status:
Purchase date:Friday 27 February, 2015
Order number:????
Tracking number: yes
Shipment status:27-02-2015 Information Received (This is not an acknowledgment of the physical receipt of the stated Registered Article)
02-03-2015 Despatched to overseas (Country code: IE)
Will add a bit more here later, watch this space
Did a bit of googling last night and found these webpages that appear to have been copied, the focalprice and everbuying pages are slow to open this morning for some reason, unless its my pc
warranty and return club http://www.club1941.com/-ezp-25.html
warranty and return Everbuying http://www.everbuying.net/m-article-id-16.html
Wholesale club http://www.club1941.com/-ezp-22.html
wholesale Focalprice http://dynamic.focalprice.com/helpinfo?currentCategoryID=31
Terms of use club club http://www.club1941.com/-ezp-21.html
Terms of use Focalprice http://dynamic.focalprice.com/helpinfo?currentCategoryID=12
RMA request club http://www.club1941.com/-ezp-18.html
Return Policy Focalprice http://dynamic.focalprice.com/helpinfo?currentCategoryID=11
About us club http://www.club1941.com/about-us-ezp-8.html
About us Everbuying http://www.everbuying.net/m-article-id-11.html
Legal window club http://www.club1941.com/-ezp-19.html
Legal window Focalprice http://dynamic.focalprice.com/helpinfo?currentCategoryID=45
General webpage construction from here?? I'm no webmaster so not sure how thats done http://www.new-supplier.com/
Re the above apparently the seller has apologized on facebook for copying some webpages so I guess thats ok then, if you say sorry then your not guilty of copyright infringement, But tell me this if they are genuine, why, after spending enormous amounts on their stock over 600 items, all apparently in stock, yet they skimp on their website and pinch other sites copyright material?
How have they come by all this stock?? the bigger established sites seem to have problems getting stocks of the Jiayu S3 3Gb version, but apparently they still hve stocks and still sending them out, and at an amazing price too, and by the way its not just this forum involved theres a couple more HERE and Here from Russia and Poland and I'm sure their are many more around the world where forum users have ordered from this site, and do you know why?? because if you google 'club1941 review' see which result comes at the top of the pile.
XDA is probably the most well known site of its kind in the world it is trusted and has an excellent reputation, and I will wager that many people have seen that review and taken it as gospel, I don't doubt the reviewer's honesty and the review of the phone seems unbiased and detailed, however the glowing review he gives of the website, without any knowledge of their history and integrity I believed has caused many to order from this site, how many of you ordered from club1941 before you saw that members posts on here? and that reviewer has admitted he received payment for that review in the form of a refund of his payment for the Jiayu S3 3 gb that he purchased from clu1941.
I realise that I'm probably p**sing into the wind and most of you will just wait and see what comes in the post, and more will probably order, tempted by the unrealistic prices, as I was.
And I wouldnt be at all surprised if the first few packages to arrive are genuine, that's not unheard of.
I'm not an expert on paypal and their ways, so if you have any queries paypal related please ring them up and ask advice if you go to the contact page in your paypal account there is a free phone number there, that's in the uk anyway.
Some of you probably think I have a chip on my shoulder regarding this site, and you're probably right, I dont like people who try to steal from me, or anybody else, and I'm old enough and ugly enough not to care what people think.
Why have I only put negative stuff here?? because I cant find anything positive, prove me wrong show me something positive about this site that will give me confidence in it
Purchase 26th Feb
Order no 2339
Tracking no RF319086806SG
dispute opened 27th full refund received immediately
Shipment Status 2nd March Despatched to overseas (Country code: GB)
oscarblue48 said:
Will add a bit more here later, watch this space
Purchase 26th Feb
Order no 2339
Tracking no RF319086806SG
dispute opened 27th full refund received immediately
Shipment Status 2nd March Despatched to overseas (Country code: GB)
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Despatched , but full refund? More information, please!
My package sent via nl post just got its status updated to "the item is pre-advised" which means something is flying from China to Netherlands
Yeah. Something is flying for sure an that something may be many,many things.
Seems like they do ship the items.
Judging from the tracking number most likely it's from Singapore.
ivivdim said:
Despatched , but full refund? More information, please!
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He opened a dispute because he felt it was dodgy, even after he got a tracking number
If it isn't a scam, why would the seller accepted dispute immidiatelly without canceling the shippment?
They are so rich that they give Jiayu S3 3GB for free?
TheCityAndTheStars said:
Yeah. Something is flying for sure an that something may be many,many things.
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That reminds me to this:
The guy ordered 3 umi zeros and this was what came in the mail.
That immediate refund although item has been dispatched is really suspicious
oscarblue48 said:
Will add a bit more here later, watch this space
Purchase 26th Feb
Order no 2339
Tracking no RF319086806SG
dispute opened 27th full refund received immediately
Shipment Status 2nd March Despatched to overseas (Country code: GB)
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What happens if/when you receive phone? Should we all start disputes once dispatched?
decayed.cell said:
He opened a dispute because he felt it was dodgy, even after he got a tracking number
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Making refund when there is clear proof that something is already sent sounds to me like pure confession of a scam by the seller?
TheCityAndTheStars said:
If it isn't a scam, why would the seller accepted dispute immidiatelly without canceling the shippment?
They are so rich that they give Jiayu S3 3GB for free?
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Why would the buyer open a dispute after he received a tracking number if the buyer isn't trying to scam the shop?
Have you ever tried going through the Paypal dispute process as a seller? It's a long and painfully drawn out process. The whole thing is completely biased towards buyers. If it was a proper and fair system theres no way oscarblue48 should have been able to open up a dispute after the tracking number was provided. This gives the seller a chance to actually send the goods, and the buyer to assess the goods before any action is taking.
Obviously these guys are new so maybe the shipping guys didn't notify the ordering guys. Hopefully they pick up the error soon enough and oscarblue48 doesn't end up scamming the shop.
elkosith said:
That reminds me to this:
The guy ordered 3 umi zeros and this was what came in the mail.
That immediate refund although item has been dispatched is really suspicious
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3 Umi Zero and they sent him that thing? Oh God that's so sad [emoji27]
Venael said:
My package sent via nl post just got its status updated to "the item is pre-advised" which means something is flying from China to Netherlands
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can you please tell us the order date, sending date
decayed.cell said:
Why would the buyer open a dispute after he received a tracking number if the buyer isn't trying to scam the shop?
Have you ever tried going through the Paypal dispute process as a seller? It's a long and painfully drawn out process. The whole thing is completely biased towards buyers. If it was a proper and fair system theres no way oscarblue48 should have been able to open up a dispute after the tracking number was provided. This gives the seller a chance to actually send the goods, and the buyer to assess the goods before any action is taking.
Obviously these guys are new so maybe the shipping guys didn't notify the ordering guys. Hopefully they pick up the error soon enough and oscarblue48 doesn't end up scamming the shop.
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Seller had number of days to reply his dispute..they didn't do it, they didn't wait, they refunded immidiatelly as they do not care about the "picture" of Jiayu coming @oscarblue48 way. Picture with proper SG track.
IMHO
Because he wants to make money If there are any problems out there, less people will order it...
Guys, there is already the same thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3042199 Let's use it instead of this one.
van_gogh said:
Guys, there is already the same thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3042199 Let's use it instead of this one.
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This one was specifically made to discuss how legit or not legit club1941 is. Also I don't find the price surprising since the official price from Jiayu's weibo account is 899 CNY for Basic and 999 CNY for Advanced http://www.weibo.com/jiayuyt, which would be just under $160 USD for the Advanced