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Best place to get your cheapest PDA Phone....

What do you guys and gals think is the cheapest web site to buy cell phones (with out any contact), even whole sales online will work.........
eddyve had a good one........
eddyve said:
HI Guys
I received a mail from a friend to look at a website www.I'm_A_Scam.com(I don't like scams)
They offer PDA's, Phones, PC's, Laptops, etc at amazingly low prices (an Apple powerpro for 250 euro!). It seems to be a Chinese website and maybe our Chinese friends from this forum can check this and if this site is scam, then we should spread the word or try to remove the website.
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I found a couple:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=1809
www.elephantcellular.com/

if in the UK
http://www.cex.co.uk/index.php
also http://www.3coffer.com/ looks like a scam site!

http://www.3coffer.com/
has SCAM written all over it, one of the classic signs of a scam is that they will use a free email account - they use yahoo in this case.
an Apple powerpro for 250 euro!
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http://www.3coffer.com/productinfo.asp?id=2789
Ok it's not got scam written all over it - it's SCREAMING
SCAM SCAM I'M A BIG DIRTY SCAM

kingsizeriz said:
if in the UK
http://www.cex.co.uk/index.php
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Now that is a legal store but I've always found that to be way way overpriced for second-hand gear.

all depends really,
i found ebay sell items £20/30 cheaper however CEX give a 12 month warranty with their items! and if you get grade A / B they are usually mint!
i got an unlocked XDA Trion grade A for £175 which i thought was a blinding deal!
XDA's on there are the highest price range - SPV's lowest so check out all the names for items and you may find a better deal

What do you think about this iphone seller?

Hi,
I was searching the net for reasonably cheap iphone deals and I found this company in the UK:
http://www.babbey.co.uk.pn/
the iphone 3g 16GB is for $350, + 30 pounds shipping, he ships worldwide.
He asked me to transfer the money via western union. do you think that he is a scammer? I don't know but he seems to be true. Any suggestions?
Thanks

mohgdeisat said:
Hi,
I was searching the net for reasonably cheap iphone deals and I found this company in the UK:
http://www.babbey.co.uk.pn/
the iphone 3g 16GB is for $350, + 30 pounds shipping, he ships worldwide.
He asked me to transfer the money via western union. do you think that he is a scammer? I don't know but he seems to be true. Any suggestions?
Thanks
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If it's too good to be true...
By the way are you sure he's english? -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.pn
Dave

at least he is under british control, these islands are british.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Islands
well, I don't know if it too good to be true coz I don't know how much does the iphone cost in bulk. Another thing that makes me feel relaxed is that he wants me to send the money to the UK and I am in the UK, too!

It's the Western Union bit that makes me cautious.
Also why would a UK based company register and even use a .pn domain, especially when the real .co.uk address is available?

I can't say for sure either way... but what guarantee's do you have?
If you do get scammed you'll have ignored all the warning bells... Price in $'s, Registered in the Uk, using Anon Payments, un-heard of, obscure domain, etc...
Also, look at these posts : http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...wRx&q="www.babbey.co.uk.pn"&btnG=Search&meta=
If in doubt, don't use them.
Dave

Hmm they say that they are a registered UK company under the number 04568517. how can I check if this is true?
EDIT: I checked that and found that it is true, they are a registered company (see link). is that enough for me to send my money via western union?
http://www.ukdata.com/numbers/04568517.html

Any recommendations, experts?

mohgdeisat said:
Any recommendations, experts?
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Personally I wouldn't use it. But I am a sceptic and very cautious when it comes to money.
Have you read some of the tips to avoid scammers in the Marketplace? Some of his characteristics matches the warnings from other users.
Dave

dont do it..
one : The website is very poorly created, if he was a legitimate business he would more than likely use an e-commerce store.
two : googlemail email, hotmail msn, mobile numbers as contact numbers, meaning no trace back.
three : the address... he lives in a very remote place....
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...106062,0.16977&spn=0.001101,0.003455&t=h&z=18
four : a UK company trading in dollars? considering the seller would stitch himself up on the exchange rate this is definately something to question...
five : in looking up the details etc he posts randomly on forums and seems very similar to the typical
"we are an established company founded in "DATE" we are respectable and blah blah blah"
be careful.
oh and six? why western union?

and check this out..
http://www.adoos.de/post/5888156/apple_macbook_air_core_2_duo_186_ghz_133_quot_2_gb
hmmmm

Its a SCAM.
Just been on tv in Denmark. Guys like that want you to transfer through a Money Transfer Company - and then you cannot find them afterwards as those Companies dont know who gets the money.
So in Denmark the word is; NEVER transfer any money that way. Only use reliable companies - payment through credit card as we can get money back if it is a scam...
And - they use webhotels in good countries as a cheat, but are often living i Romania and places like that... !

definately looks like another scam...be careful!

So, I am not gonna do it. He called me today asking for the money and I told him I'll send the money on monday! he was not talking like a sales guy, he was speaking like this: "hello, how are you? when will you send the money" he seemed to be like a bull**** on the phone, I am not going to risk it anyway!
Thanks for your advice guys, I appreciate it

I would not do it, only if I could consider that money is worth nothing to me...Western Union? legal company would use another method of payment...
And yes gmail hotmail adresses seems to be poor...
good luke and cross your fingers
I even once had trouble with Visa card, then how would you follow our order after Western Union?

If it sound to good to be true chances are it is . its got Scam Written All over it the

Android phones from China.

Hi!
Im planning to buy a new phone, but for me the good ones are too expensive, so I thought I'd give a try a China phone. But are they reliable? I know they can break very fast but maybe there is a sort of good manufacturer. Right now I'm looking at Zopo ZP100 with 1Ghz CPU and stuff, are those any good?
Also what are reliable stores to buy these from? There are some phones like this on Ebay, but I dont know really.

DustyLv said:
Hi!
Im planning to buy a new phone, but for me the good ones are too expensive, so I thought I'd give a try a China phone. But are they reliable? I know they can break very fast but maybe there is a sort of good manufacturer. Right now I'm looking at Zopo ZP100 with 1Ghz CPU and stuff, are those any good?
Also what are reliable stores to buy these from? There are some phones like this on Ebay, but I dont know really.
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No way dude!I would never do it.done it before with some electronic stuff from China (like the legendary sciphone!Lol what a piece of **** it was!!) I would rather save some money and buy a phone when I can afford it,or buy a used phone over eBay
Send from beneath my cloak of magic

He's right.. save your money and buy a proper phone.

Some Chinese developers have stolen Android and sold it as their own OS. I had a friend from China come to America as an exchange student with an Android phone that was called something else.

The Meizu Android Phones Are Great

I am Chinese, I bought my phone from this website, it is famous in China, but I do not know if it support English.
You could search 360buy with google

What the .. ?
First of all - China does not equal ****. Even their unbranded products got quality boost from the recent. Small companies are making their products with almost the western standard and they are pushing through.
ZTE is a company from Shenzhen, China, That has it's range of Android phones that are pretty good, and by the way - they now have more money than Samsung and Apple
Here is a nice example of how chinese phones need not to be total crap:
http://www.malata.com/en/product_detail.aspx?classid=700&id=149
I had the opportunity to check out Malata products with my own hands & eyes and I can tell you that their tablets look better than western makret tablets.
now tell me - is anything wrong with this phone .. ? cant find the price at the moment but I guarantee that it is 1/2 cheaper than new SGS2.

Check the Ainovo or Ainol. They are made in China and cheaper.

Thanks for the many replies!
But seriously? The SciPhone? It is too crappy even when not comparing it to other China smartphones, you should check out the specs first.
That Malata phone looks nice and quite powerful.
Any info on the Zopo ZP100?

I wouldn't doubt they make quality products (after all Foxconn has the largest force of electronics assembly personal the planet has ever seen) but how about that warranty?

Get some ZTE. Or something like that.
Chinese phones tend to have max 4 hours standby.

copynijia said:
China also has their own better phone brands, iphone is produced in China,too. Difference is they don't have their own IOS. But this is not important, because android can be used freely. THL is a new phone brand, a ittle like HTC, you can check it out here http://www.tinydeal.com/thl-40-android-pxqd4o-p-52158.html or you can google it. Worth to buy.
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I took a look at their phones, and the only thing that isn't great is the processor but that can always be overclocked. I'd buy one just to see how it performs.
Sent from my U8800Pro using xda premium

swbf2lord said:
Some Chinese developers have stolen Android and sold it as their own OS. I had a friend from China come to America as an exchange student with an Android phone that was called something else.
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Android is Free is it not?

There seems to be a lot of HTC clones on the chinese market.

After reading some posts on the internet and here about these kind of phones I think I might give them a chance after all. I mean theyre cheap, I could buy another one if it breaks.
But the question now is, where to buy one? Which are good shops that wont screw you over?

Meizu
I have to say the Meizu is a good one.
My cousin got one from china and I´ve got it in my hands.
It seems to be a powerful phone w/ fair quality.
All thing working properly, just some issues with the wifi sometimes.
Maybe I´ll get one for my son in the future...

hi
but i think the china phone QC is not good

wwweh said:
There seems to be a lot of HTC clones on the chinese market.
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Eh HTC Produces Alot Of Their 'Clones' For The Chinese Markets
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Igoritza said:
What the .. ?
First of all - China does not equal ****. Even their unbranded products got quality boost from the recent. Small companies are making their products with almost the western standard and they are pushing through.
ZTE is a company from Shenzhen, China, That has it's range of Android phones that are pretty good, and by the way - they now have more money than Samsung and Apple
Here is a nice example of how chinese phones need not to be total crap:
http://www.malata.com/en/product_detail.aspx?classid=700&id=149
I had the opportunity to check out Malata products with my own hands & eyes and I can tell you that their tablets look better than western makret tablets.
now tell me - is anything wrong with this phone .. ? cant find the price at the moment but I guarantee that it is 1/2 cheaper than new SGS2.
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No They Don't

Yes they do Value of a company is not estimated via pure financials but with estimation of market, realestate, workload, location ... ZTE has been a player for more than 20 years in China selling network euipment and their manufacture department is 5-6x bigger than any other company, and they also hold many many departments that do not go into fiscal calculation but still earn a shi*load of money.
they are also suppliers for more than 20 companies and their official sales are less than 10% of total earning.
and for the final conclusion, do the math yourself:
Apple/foxcon - 33.000 workers
ZTE - 90.000 workers
they all work in china where everyone on the same position is payed pretty much the same cash. How come ?

sarahbaby said:
I am Chinese, I bought my phone from this website, it is famous in China, but I do not know if it support English.
You could search 360buy with google
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most smartphone should comes with multi languages support

[Q] Buying options between within the country or buying outside the country?

I want to know what would be the pros and cons of me buying between one within the UK or one from China if I were to buy an android TV stick. I compared amazon.com to another site (visopix.com) I don't know either also if the other site is reliable. Any thoughts about them? Because if I order from amazon, it is coming all the way from China while the other is within the UK and both offer free shipping. Is it worth paying a little extra to get the item from within the country already or what?
-Cheers

CraigJen11 said:
I want to know what would be the pros and cons of me buying between one within the UK or one from China if I were to buy an android TV stick. I compared amazon.com to another site (visopix.com) I don't know either also if the other site is reliable. Any thoughts about them? Because if I order from amazon, it is coming all the way from China while the other is within the UK and both offer free shipping. Is it worth paying a little extra to get the item from within the country already or what?
-Cheers
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for me trust is most important
by from the site you can trust

mat jonson said:
for me trust is most important
by from the site you can trust
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Agreed.
What's most important is that you're getting what you think you're getting - not where it's coming from.
I used to own a MacBook - it came direct from China when I got it. Even if I'm no longer a Mac fan, I know that Apple is a pretty trustworthy company in that they weren't going to be shipping me a pirated look-alike or a can of beans.
I buy things on eBay directly from China all the time. I make judgments depending on how much I think I trust the seller and from reviews. It coming from China or Hong Kong doesn't mean it's a bad product. If I need it fast, I can usually find a warehouse in my country that is stocking the same thing - which came to that warehouse from the exact same place in China - it usually costs a little more to get the exact same thing because the people operating the in-country warehouse need to recover their costs, too. They're just a middle-man.

Pennycake said:
Agreed.
What's most important is that you're getting what you think you're getting - not where it's coming from.
I used to own a MacBook - it came direct from China when I got it. Even if I'm no longer a Mac fan, I know that Apple is a pretty trustworthy company in that they weren't going to be shipping me a pirated look-alike or a can of beans.
I buy things on eBay directly from China all the time. I make judgments depending on how much I think I trust the seller and from reviews. It coming from China or Hong Kong doesn't mean it's a bad product. If I need it fast, I can usually find a warehouse in my country that is stocking the same thing - which came to that warehouse from the exact same place in China - it usually costs a little more to get the exact same thing because the people operating the in-country warehouse need to recover their costs, too. They're just a middle-man.
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Thank you for you input. A friend of mine just recommended the other site to me and he seemed pretty happy about his recent transaction with www.visopix.com I suppose I will think about whether to settle with the middle-man or not. It's just sometimes I do not like how they do the packaging from China and I end up with a damaged box or if I want to return it and the shipping internationally usually cost more.

Where to buy, where not to buy

So, I thought I'd start a separate thread that will have the places people have seen where this device is available and how much it's being sold for currently. I got this this morning:
http://www.1949deal.com/huawei-asce...b-rom-6-0-inch-fhd-ips-ogs-screen-golden.html
Now, the link and title both say:
3Gb RAM
32Gb ROM
Oh, one thing that is very important. When you create an account with this site, they send you back and email containing both your username and password in cleartext TO THE EMAIL FROM WHICH YOU SIGNED UP. If you aren't understanding why this is important, they pretty much exposed your personal information to anyone doing email sniffing. What I mean by that is if anyone intercepts the email back from these people they have access to your account which most likely, if you've ordered from them, has your credit and addresses/shipping information. Means, they can order stuff on your card and have it shipped anywhere else.
In the end, I wouldn't order from these folks, not only because they seem really bad about specs, but because their site is really insecure in how it handles personal information (PII). Who knows how they handle PCI?
Yet, the price is $369, the specs say that the housing is plastic, and quite a number of other "discrepancies" that make no sense to me, but I'm pasting/sharing this. I imagine, eventually the pricing and the specs and compatibility will shake out based on the units that do get sold. I also speculate that the pricing will drop based on units sold.
Does anyone else think the price will drop of this device?

Could be fake, the price Huawei announced in German is something like 499 or 599 euros
be careful.
The price in China for the 32G/3G ram is around 600 USD/
Think about it before place your order

Being careful is easy, being conned is easier
freefrank said:
Could be fake, the price Huawei announced in German is something like 499 or 599 euros
be careful.
The price in China for the 32G/3G ram is around 600 USD/
Think about it before place your order
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Which is why I'm making this thread for people to post sites and prices they've seen.
As far as this site goes, they take payment through paypal and credit card. Either way, you're not in bad shape, not great, because you'll still have to go through the process of trying to get your money back.
Cavet emptor, right.

sanjsrik said:
So, I thought I'd start a separate thread that will have the places people have seen where this device is available and how much it's being sold for currently. I got this this morning:
http://www.1949deal.com/huawei-asce...b-rom-6-0-inch-fhd-ips-ogs-screen-golden.html
Now, the link and title both say:
3Gb RAM
32Gb ROM
Oh, one thing that is very important. When you create an account with this site, they send you back and email containing both your username and password in cleartext TO THE EMAIL FROM WHICH YOU SIGNED UP. If you aren't understanding why this is important, they pretty much exposed your personal information to anyone doing email sniffing. What I mean by that is if anyone intercepts the email back from these people they have access to your account which most likely, if you've ordered from them, has your credit and addresses/shipping information. Means, they can order stuff on your card and have it shipped anywhere else.
In the end, I wouldn't order from these folks, not only because they seem really bad about specs, but because their site is really insecure in how it handles personal information (PII). Who knows how they handle PCI?
Yet, the price is $369, the specs say that the housing is plastic, and quite a number of other "discrepancies" that make no sense to me, but I'm pasting/sharing this. I imagine, eventually the pricing and the specs and compatibility will shake out based on the units that do get sold. I also speculate that the pricing will drop based on units sold.
Does anyone else think the price will drop of this device?
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I posted this yesterday. It's Aliexpress.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...-Fuselage-6-1920x1080P-3G-RAM/2037325619.html
Price listed is $600-647. I think it's only the Gold 3GB/32GB version though. (pic below)

Multiple items, multiple shipments, no single order
Techngro said:
I posted this yesterday. It's Aliexpress.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...-Fuselage-6-1920x1080P-3G-RAM/2037325619.html
Price listed is $600-647. I think it's only the Gold 3GB/32GB version though. (pic below)
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Aliexpress is a very reputable site to buy stuff. The only downside is if you bundle a few things together, so, I added a glass screen shield and a clear backed TPU case and each and every one shipped separately. They're like the Amazon of China and while Amazon can give you the ability to bundle all the disparate vendors into a single shipment, i don't think AliExpress lets you do that.

sanjsrik said:
Aliexpress is a very reputable site to buy stuff. The only downside is if you bundle a few things together, so, I added a glass screen shield and a clear backed TPU case and each and every one shipped separately. They're like the Amazon of China and while Amazon can give you the ability to bundle all the disparate vendors into a single shipment, i don't think AliExpress lets you do that.
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I'm still not sure about the bands/frequencies it supports. It shows both FDD and TDD, but the frequencies listed don't exactly match with T-Mobile. I guess i'll have to wait and see.

oh, tmo, how you make our lives so hard
Techngro said:
I'm still not sure about the bands/frequencies it supports. It shows both FDD and TDD, but the frequencies listed don't exactly match with T-Mobile. I guess i'll have to wait and see.
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Not disagreeing with you at all. I'm in the same boat with T-Mobile. the worst that will happen is that I'll get 3G and no 4G. Most days in most places, I'm on WiFi any way. However, it's nice to have a device that's actually supported.

Same as on 3 UK they use band 3 and band 20 looks like only one band supported

I suggest oppomart.com use them a lot, always get the latest chinese phones first and for good price.

sanjsrik said:
So, I thought I'd start a separate thread that will have the places people have seen where this device is available and how much it's being sold for currently. I got this this morning:
http://www.1949deal.com/huawei-asce...b-rom-6-0-inch-fhd-ips-ogs-screen-golden.html
Now, the link and title both say:
3Gb RAM
32Gb ROM
Oh, one thing that is very important. When you create an account with this site, they send you back and email containing both your username and password in cleartext TO THE EMAIL FROM WHICH YOU SIGNED UP. If you aren't understanding why this is important, they pretty much exposed your personal information to anyone doing email sniffing. What I mean by that is if anyone intercepts the email back from these people they have access to your account which most likely, if you've ordered from them, has your credit and addresses/shipping information. Means, they can order stuff on your card and have it shipped anywhere else.
In the end, I wouldn't order from these folks, not only because they seem really bad about specs, but because their site is really insecure in how it handles personal information (PII). Who knows how they handle PCI?
Yet, the price is $369, the specs say that the housing is plastic, and quite a number of other "discrepancies" that make no sense to me, but I'm pasting/sharing this. I imagine, eventually the pricing and the specs and compatibility will shake out based on the units that do get sold. I also speculate that the pricing will drop based on units sold.
Does anyone else think the price will drop of this device?
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Guess the price is impossible ...
Here it is a store on sale with $569 2GB RAM+16GB ROM: http://www.oiostore.com/huawei-mate7-61-inch-octa-core-4g-mobile-3gb-ram-p-342.html

I found this a few days ago:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200302&pf_rd_i=507846
I think it's so expensive right now... what do you think?

Wait...
Cesantony said:
I found this a few days ago:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200302&pf_rd_i=507846
I think it's so expensive right now... what do you think?
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So, it's not guaranteed to work in the US
it's not guaranteed to be compatible with the LTE networks
it's overpriced.
Conclusion, wait until they release a US-compatible version.

Cesantony said:
I found this a few days ago:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200302&pf_rd_i=507846
I think it's so expensive right now... what do you think?
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I think the price is so expensive because Huawei really hasn't done a full release yet. It seems to just be trickling out. The one person who said they bought one had to go to China to get it. lol. I think once it's officially released that you will see a more reasonable price.

It is up on Amazon.de at a very reasonable €499, no expected stock date though.

EU only...
cathain said:
It is up on Amazon.de at a very reasonable €499, no expected stock date though.
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I just tried it as a lark, won't ship to any US address in my book. This is also from what I can tell, for the 2Gb/16Gb version. Good luck to everyone out there. Gives me hope that the device is expected in stock then. Might be a feeding frenzy until a general release is made. I'd still suggest waiting. It's the difference between having it first, or having it at a reasonable price in my opinion.

You can use mailboxde to order from German amazon and have it forwarded to you.

Thank you
cathain said:
You can use mailboxde to order from German amazon and have it forwarded to you.
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Thanks for that, should have known, i used to use a mail-forwarding site like this when I lived in Central America for my US mail. So, the EU to USD conversion is about ~$632 (give or take fluctuations in economies). Still, to me it's worth it to wait. This version is not compatible with the US-T-Mobile bands (or maybe it is, conflicting answers).

I'm selling mine, can I post in this forum?

already?
freefrank said:
I'm selling mine, can I post in this forum?
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might get better results on swappa on this site.
Out of curiosity, why are you selling it? It's only been released a few weeks.

sanjsrik said:
might get better results on swappa on this site.
Out of curiosity, why are you selling it? It's only been released a few weeks.
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cuz... i like playing with new phone, I bought like 50 phones in the last 10 years
here is the phone i bought will 2011