Related
Hello everyone,
My name is Shadowline around here. I'm a freelance Photoshop artist, and HTC phone fanatic/addict. One of my current projects and latest interest is in the Google Android platform as a whole. I am a Linux Ubuntu user, and being such, seeing a platform like android come to my most loved possession the AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) and other phones to come in the future has me jumping for joy.
Now some people do not like HTC phones because of lack of support, lack of drivers, or something else completely. But I personally love the HTC phones just for the fact of how usable they are, how shiny and sexy they are, and for how many of us here at XDA are constantly adding to the feature list of our little plastic/metallic friends that follow us everywhere.
So enough of the back story of what you are here for, here's to all of those who still prefer something HTC over an iPhone anyday.
I present to you, the HTC Android Phone codenamed Centurion.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Based on a mix of the Kaiser, the Diamond, and preloaded with the Android operating system.
It only has 3 hardware buttons (plus 4 way trackpad,) from left to right, Phone Dialer Quickbutton, Move (4-way directional) select (center button,) and home.
It has a slide out keyboard, and a 1280x720 (720p) Multitouch screen that fits flush with the casing around it and is 4.5in from top to bottom. Filled with all the usual features, GPS, HSDPA, WIFI, Bluetooth, FM Radio, and 3mp Camera, plus a few additions, and is based around the NVidia APX 2500.
It is a little on the large side due to the screen that is on it.
Let me know what you think, and would you buy it if it was out today?
And what are your likes/dislikes about it? anything to improve? anything to add/remove?
And a photo of the Centurion taken from my kaiser.
U got great skills with Photoshop mate
thank you. Im glad you like it. took me abut 2 hours to finish. lol
nice project but u forget to set phone display to widescreen
omg
if this were realy... THIS would realy be the iphone killer.... for once...
a real iphone killer... lol
Very slick looks and has a killer potential! Do u have a side view on it's "dream" thickness & a guess at it's weight?
nice project but u forget to set phone display to widescreen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol, I still have yet to see android in landscape mode, but I might photoshop that in, and finish work on the keyboard. (at least the newer version...)
Glad everyone likes it so far. I know I've fallen in love with it and keep imagining my kaiser to look like that every time I run android.
I might also work on a side view. I've never done that before so I will have to give it a go. And as far as weight goes, I havent thought about it much, but I'd guess it would be slightly heavier than the kaiser seeing as it is larger to fit the larger screen.
very nice looking phone. i hope htc are looking!
Thank you, I will attempt to finish it, and to make one more picture of it on its side for everyone as soon as I get my PC back. It caught a cold (virus) and I am in the middle of reinstalling windows just to fix a boatload of issues I was having.
a 1280 X720 screen would be nice, but the current wide screen res for WM devices is 800 X 480 !
I voted maybe as I want a dedicated number row like the new vario 4, this setup is what is putting me off the xperia
nice topic!
I voted no .. cuz i love my Pharos and want to put Android on it (saw that TI gave a demo of Android running on an OMAP 850 device)
but in a year or a little later maybe Id definately buy one!
Very sexy...
Looks good, hopefully it will be pumped up with memory when it comes out,like 1gb RAM ,2gb of ROM and at least 8gb of storage!!
but first....TOUCH PRO
shadowline said:
Hello everyone,
My name is Shadowline around here. I'm a freelance Photoshop artist, and HTC phone fanatic/addict. One of my current projects and latest interest is in the Google Android platform as a whole. I am a Linux Ubuntu user, and being such, seeing a platform like android come to my most loved possession the AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) and other phones to come in the future has me jumping for joy.
Now some people do not like HTC phones because of lack of support, lack of drivers, or something else completely. But I personally love the HTC phones just for the fact of how usable they are, how shiny and sexy they are, and for how many of us here at XDA are constantly adding to the feature list of our little plastic/metallic friends that follow us everywhere.
So enough of the back story of what you are here for, here's to all of those who still prefer something HTC over an iPhone anyday.
I present to you, the HTC Android Phone codenamed Centurion.
Based on a mix of the Kaiser, the Diamond, and preloaded with the Android operating system.
It only has 3 hardware buttons (plus 4 way trackpad,) from left to right, Phone Dialer Quickbutton, Move (4-way directional) select (center button,) and home.
It has a slide out keyboard, and a 1280x720 (720p) Multitouch screen that fits flush with the casing around it and is 4.5in from top to bottom. Filled with all the usual features, GPS, HSDPA, WIFI, Bluetooth, FM Radio, and 3mp Camera, plus a few additions, and is based around the NVidia APX 2500.
It is a little on the large side due to the screen that is on it.
Let me know what you think, and would you buy it if it was out today?
And what are your likes/dislikes about it? anything to improve? anything to add/remove?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i remember some years, when i had a nokia 6220 i used a flash theme like that. Android has grown a lot since
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone has had much experience trying to replace a TyTN II. I've been really please with it, but I don't really use the keyboard and would really love a VGA screen.
I've looked at the Eten X650 and X800 but the reviews are a bit mixed to say the least and I'm just not sure!
So has anyone made the switch from an HTC device to an Eten or i-mate etc successfully or any other similar phone? And found them to be useable?!?!
Any suggestions on a new model would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advanced,
Gadget.
You could look at the Touch Diamond. If you want a keyboard wait for the Touch Pro.
gadgetdude, similar situation here. Except I'm moving from a standard tytn to an I-mate 9502 and I need the keyboard. This is only day 2 in the switch for me, but I can say it's different. One big thing I miss is the lack of the great HTC apps like the home plugin, audio manager, and task manager. That hurts. Also, I gotta say, while the VGA is good for browsing and makes the fonts look great, it's kinda of a waste on a 2.8" screen.
This phone is a little quirky compared to the tytn, but it has some good points. I'll probably be using it until the X1 comes out. Good luck.
Now with all the VGA devices coming out, I would have thought someone would have converted the original HTC home to fit VGA. I know there is currently a version out there that works but it makes every so damn small. Imagine how the original HTC would look in VGA if it fit to the screen lke the QVGA version does.
More info...
Thanks dudes for all you're input.
Still not sure tho - the Touch Pro looks rather cool! And I guess it'll have proper VGA versions of the HTC software?!
Has anyone got any opinions on the 'joystick' control on the Eten X800 or X650 though? I'm still not convinced whether it'll be a real pain or not!
Cheers dudes!
Have you looked at the tosh g900?
This actually has the highest res screen on any windows mobile device (to my knowledge) at 800x480. Its gorgeous for browsing and looking at pictures/photo's etc. It can be a bit slow when rotating orientation but thats the only time.
The original firmware was VERY buggy and so it built up a reputation according to this - bear in mind though, it was brand new and early adoption should expect issues. This reputation is now unfounded imho. Since firmware 3.01 and above, its rock solid and I never have to reboot mine.
This is what I do on mine without any issues/crashes:
Today screen extra's -
HTC X-Button,
SPB Weather,
SPB Backup,
Rhinocode Launch Pro,
Corner-A PDA Status
Other apps installed and working -
Saman SMSDeliveryReceiptFix
Micromega MSS Converter
ZoomSMS
YouTube Player
OneNote (although, this wont pull notes FROM the PC but will push TOO the pc)
MS Voicecommand
Google Maps
Route66 (sadly, the only Satnav i've found to work correctly with its high res screen)
Oh something else this phone did first, afaik, was to have a USB hub in it! You wont believe how handy it is to plug in USB storage devices (right up to external 3.5" disks!) at work to move stuff around.
The fingerprint security/program launcher is excellent - wish more phones had it! I also use the phone constantly on 3g/hsdpa as a modem for my pc and browse the web loads. I've had to buy a 3000mamp battery which makes the phone a bit bulky but to be fair, i don't think there are many people who are as heavy users as me. I also have configured a mail2web push email and a couple of pop 3 accounts.
BUT I am getting rid for two reasons:
No built in GPS
camera is w*&k
I am waiting for the Samsung I900 Omnia which is released any day now here in England.
Samsung http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=samsung+i900&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
Tosh http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=tosh+g900&meta=
I had the eten M800 and the joystick was ok. It made it abit larger when in your pocket. Personally I like the joystick on the imate 8502. This joystick is the best I've used yet buty personally I like the 5-way pad over any joystick.
If screen resolution is a top priority, then take a look at Sony Xperia X1, it does have a physical keyboard but has a WVGA screen, thats 800 by 480. It's designed by HTC and marketed by Sony Ericsson, so best of both worlds.
[email protected] said:
If screen resolution is a top priority, then take a look at Sony Xperia X1, it does have a physical keyboard but has a WVGA screen, thats 800 by 480. It's designed by HTC and marketed by Sony Ericsson, so best of both worlds.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and also not out until end of this year/early next year(?) .... continualy delayed product. By the time it comes out its going to be old. Compared to the G900 it offers very little extra and the G900 was out almost a year ago (and so has had all the bugs ironed out of it, something a brand new product will not be able to claim), specialy a Windows Mobile device.
you can also wait for the futur Toshiba G920 or G910
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
more informations http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=998&id2=999
but i thought there is a bounty for whoever to unlock the video processor within the tytn ii or tilt that is not being used at all...if someone is able to show us how to make use of that wouldnt that improve the resolution plus 3d games?
jtoyz2 said:
... unlock the video processor within the tytn ii or tilt that is not being used at all......
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sadly thats the case with a lot of phones. A great many smartphones out there have this issue. For example, my G900 has the Nvidia chipset in it but it aint used properly, and with an 800x480 screen, it would make a massive diference.
Why, oh why do they not give them drivers?
its not just phone company i remember the psp was like that as well...originally was a faster processor but they blocked it...off topic...anyways i seen a video of someone tapping into the graphic chip on the tytn ii maybe there is still hope...
Thanks for all the input on this.
In the end after much soul searching (well, phone searching, anyway!) I decided to go for the new Touch Diamond. Seems to fit what I'm after the most.
It's arriving tomorrow and I can't wait!!
Gadgetdude,
You have PM
WB
Checking in!
Just to share a thought. Looking back more than a year ago, I had to spend some good effort hunting for the TyTN 1 (Got the first available variant model Taiwan CHT9000). This year alot of decent phones came out, making decisions much harder to make. I guess it is good news...
The Raphael would be a dream keyboarded WM 6.1 micro SD device but since I currently own the HTC Diamond and Apple iPhone 3G. I have to double think before getting this. May be I will have the Diamond sold and get the Raphael.
The iPhone lacks AD2P Bluetooth which is a serious draw back. The battery is non swappable, no memory card (not really a big deal cos the itunes sync is much more reliable than Active Sync ).
Feel free to share your thoughts!
Wow, you really are a "PPC-Warrior" with all those devices :O.
drivers?
Shall we get the Raphael?
Mmm that depends of the performance of the gpu,
or presence of a graphic driver!
Does anybody has information about this issue?
Does it take SDHC or just regular microSD?
takes SDHC up to 32GB
I had a dream...
What about the famous HTC Dream. its been long roumered to be out before year ends. Would it be worth waiting for I wonder.
I have so been waiting for this device to hit the shelves. HTC should have had this thing available 2 weeks ago or at least made some noise about it. Imagine if people knew about this!!
Apple sold 1 million Iphones here in Australia in the first 3 days and you cant even type on the damn thing without having to constantly correct yourself if you have fingers bigger than what my 5 yr old has and the GPS cant speak directions, no messenger and list of draw backs goes on.
I'm just hanging for this thing to arrive.
Will the Raphael have the same diamond back as the ,uh, Diamond? I read somewhere that the diamond doesn't lay flat on the table. I also read somewhere that there will be an optional flat back. Any thoughts?
The T-mobile branded Raphael has a flat backcover...
I can't really think of any reason not to buy a Raphael. This looks like the perfect device for current standards. And I don't think it has any serious flaw, which kept me from buying other devices (like the video issue on Tytn II for example).
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
The only thing that's putting me off is the screen size. 2.8 inches really isn't very big, especially when you're used to the Universal and its wonderful 3.7 inch VGA screen.
The xperia 3 inch screen isn't much bigger than the touch pro, plus I prefer the touch pro styling. I also wonder if the xperia's WVGA screen will cause software compatability problems?
Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. maybe software problems with that screen solution
2. no video out
3. probably no (or not a lot) support by the chefs and professionals in this community for that hardware...
4. no release date avaliable
Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have read the keyboard is awful. Unless they improve it before releasing, which is highly unlikely because that would change the design, I wouldn't buy it, afterall the main reason for me to choose Pro instead of Diamond is the keyboard, which is considered excellent by some people who had a chance to use it.
thanks, your arguments make enough sense to reconsider my liking. I wish the Diamond Pro would have a 3' screen ;-)
I heard that X-Peria is going to be released only in oct end , so thats quite some time whereas Raphael is scheduled to be launched on aug 5th i guess.
I am eying on the Raphael.
Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the physical screen size of the X1 is only 0.2" than the Raphael...
A good reason not to go the X1 is the wonderful Xda-developers forum
Another is that it's a bit delay
Personally the perfect phone for me would be a Diamond with micro-sd card support and a 3.5" screen with VGA but I sold my prophet and I can't no longer wait for the perfect phone. So, the best for now is the Raphael...
P.S. - Samsung Omnia is also a no go for me cause it doesn't have a stylus...
Actually the omnia has a stylus which looks like lipsick lol, there's nowhere on the handset to store it thought.. picture below.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Sunlight readable?
I am pretty sure I want to get the Touch Pro over the Xperia X1 apart from one thing. The reviews of the Xperia say it's screen is readable under direct sunlight. People I know with the Diamond say it is not.
I've spent the last year with the Tosh G900. It also has the 800x480 like the Xperia but it can't be seen outside. I was thinking that all these small screen high res phones were unreadable in sunlight. Maybe there is a problem with transflective displays at this pixel density?
The Touch Pro has a lot of advantages over the X1, 5 rows of keys, TV out and 640x480 screen (this is better I now know after living with the 800x480 for year and finding loads of apps that wont work). But I like to use TomTom while cycling so sunlight readable would be quite a bonus...
This phone so nearly does everything that I've been waiting so many years for, apart from decent camera with optical zoom and OLED screen. Guess I'll have to wait a few more years before I'm completely happy!
actually the diamond is the first pda/phone i have that the light sensor really works, if there is too much sun he will increase the display light, for me it is quite readable ( better than x7500 for example )
Anyone done a comparison? That Xperia looks like it could be fabulous.
there is a bit here
http://smape.com/en/reviews//Sony_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1-prev.html
featurewise anyway
To my knowledge the Xperia isn't even out yet.
Also to US customers I hear that The Xperia isn't coming to AT&T, just to T-Mobile. I bet you could unlock it, but I think the 3G frequencies of AT&T and T-Mobs USA are different.
So if you have AT&T the Choice is clear...
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Of course the main reason to get a Touch Pro is the keyboard, otherwise you'd be getting the smaller, sexier Diamond. So for a majority of TP buyers, keyboard = important.
First thing I thought when I saw the X1 was "ugh what a nasty uncomfortable looking keyboard". Most hands-on comparisons I've read pretty much confirm it.
So, the main reason to get a bulkier slider device is the keyboard, and it's keyboard is a failure. Of course, not everyone will be so fussy about the keyboard, but for me it knocked the X1 clean out of the race.
The Raphaels keboard is far better, and the Raphaels TF3D/Manila destroys Panels (although the fish were kinda cool ).
Rudegar said:
there is a bit here
http://smape.com/en/reviews//Sony_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1-prev.html
featurewise anyway
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BTW, for anyone who doesn't know Russian,
"Дисплей:" means display.
Also, the Raphael has 288MB of RAM (32 of which are because of the chipset, which means the X1 may have it as well.)
Regarding the panels interface, I bet that will be ripped to other WinMo devices before you know it!!
Also I was thinking, is it really a proper interface or is just a bunch of background applications presented in that "panel" form, for example like the "expose" thing you get on a mac?
If so someone could create an app for all winmo device that "exposes" running apps into a panel view, you then tap the one you want to go to and it maximises/brings it to front...
amirite?
Syphon Filter said:
Regarding the panels interface, I bet that will be ripped to other WinMo devices before you know it!!
Also I was thinking, is it really a proper interface or is just a bunch of background applications presented in that "panel" form, for example like the "expose" thing you get on a mac?
If so someone could create an app for all winmo device that "exposes" running apps into a panel view, you then tap the one you want to go to and it maximises/brings it to front...
amirite?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Since the very first leaked X1 ROMs, I've been attempting to port it to QVGA, but it doesn't work...
It's an Expose like task manager, but you can also have preset "Desktops".
The closest to getting tasks displayed as images ATM would be Roozbehs 3DAltTab.
JimmyMcGee said:
To my knowledge the Xperia isn't even out yet.
Also to US customers I hear that The Xperia isn't coming to AT&T, just to T-Mobile. I bet you could unlock it, but I think the 3G frequencies of AT&T and T-Mobs USA are different.
So if you have AT&T the Choice is clear...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL, nice jimmy
At this moment I got a TyTN II (Kaiser) in my pocket. Is the Touch Pro (Raphael) the continuator or is there coming a TyTN III?
The current price here in the Netherlands between the TyTN II and the Touch Pro is very small. Should the Omni the next generation TyTN -> TyTN III?
My decision is like follows:
I buy a Touch Pro if HTC manages to increase the 3G reception to a normal level before Xperia X1 is on sale. I'd prefer the Touch Pro mainly because of the better keyboard, but reception is even more important for me. Without reception a phone is a worthless piece of plastic.
If HTC fails on the Touch Pro and the Xperia X1 shows an acceptable reception, then I'll be still happy and buy the X1. I will tell myself that the more HW Keys, more LEDs and bigger screen (resolution) was worth it.
But if both fail I have to stick with my TyTN until the next generation is announced. (...and I really want a new toy! (NOW!))
Side by Side Comparison
Found this comparison on smape also...
http://smape.com/en/reviews//HTC_Touch_Pro-Sony_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1-prev.html
The TouchPro also has TV-OUT, though cable not included
At this moment I got a TyTN II (Kaiser) in my pocket. Is the Touch Pro (Raphael) the continuator or is there coming a TyTN III?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Touch Pro (Raphael) is the successor to TyTN II (Kaiser), so you could say that it is the "TyTN III". Nobody knows whether HTC will make a TyTN III later of course, but in that case it would be the successor to the Raphael, so such a naming scheme makes little sense.
I really had a hard time deciding between the Xperia and the Touch Pro, but i finally decided to get the Touch pro because
- the mainstream screen resolution: more likely that most apps will work with it
- a little smaller in size
- keyboard with arrows (i use them a lot)
- no release date for Xperia yet (alltough i think that would change fast now), and my tytn was dying
- TV out
- TF3D looks really slick
- A lot more support for the Touch Pro on this forum
The only advantage of the Xperia over the touch pro were the metal finish (alltough im very pleased with the looks of the Touch pro, it looks better in real life then on photo, and my gf thinks it's a very sexy phone) and the bigger screen.
Incarniac said:
The Touch Pro (Raphael) is the successor to TyTN II (Kaiser), so you could say that it is the "TyTN III". Nobody knows whether HTC will make a TyTN III later of course, but in that case it would be the successor to the Raphael, so such a naming scheme makes little sense.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably have abandoned the TyTN series now i think, the TyTN II was released before the Touch, Touch cruise etc... More likely they will carry on the touch branding or start a new series?
l3v5y said:
... and the Raphaels TF3D/Manila destroys Panels ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
true, it does... but... how long will we in the modifications community leave the X1 alone? not long, me thinks. The X1 will have TF3D/Manilla available within the first few weeks of its release, which will run in one of the 9 panels (lets see the iphone do that!), and then the only shortfall will of course be the keyboard and tv-out, which you can't upgrade. but the X1 is a much sexier phone... >sigh< well KRAP! I guess I'll just have to buy one of each
ouch Pro vs. Xperia
mr_Ray said:
Of course the main reason to get a Touch Pro is the keyboard, otherwise you'd be getting the smaller, sexier Diamond. So for a majority of TP buyers, keyboard = important.
First thing I thought when I saw the X1 was "ugh what a nasty uncomfortable looking keyboard". Most hands-on comparisons I've read pretty much confirm it.
So, the main reason to get a bulkier slider device is the keyboard, and it's keyboard is a failure. Of course, not everyone will be so fussy about the keyboard, but for me it knocked the X1 clean out of the race.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The keyboard is one of the features, (agree, the Toch Pro seem to have the better one) but the overall use should make the decission. The complete UMTS band and all 4 GMS break the choice. Travelling with the Touch Pro will be difficult without the bandwith. Will see when both US Versions will be available.
Will X1 be supported by XDA-Developers?
A question for senior members/moderators: Since the X1 will be manufactured by HTC, will it be supported here on xda-developers.com in the forum and wiki area? If it were, that may sway some decisions in its favor. (truthfully, i'm having a hard time deciding)
Thanks in advance...
I was going back and forth on both devices but finally decided to take Touch Pro for some reasons:
- "real" HTC devices has a very big community
- Touch Pro has a light sensor
- Touch Pro has a g-sensor
- it is as small as an Magician
- it is going to be released soon (SE actually has not)
Just saw the following video:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/13/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-unboxed-played-with-on-video/
unboxing of the X1.
Since I live in Canada, would it be wise to change my TP to an X1? Reason is that the TP has no 3G in Canada and Rogers has not mentioned anything about it but they are getting the 3G Touch Diamond soon.
I can live without the video output and less keys on the keyboard but the video resolution might be a problem with some apps
According to pdadb.net, the X1 has more RAM than the TP.
I don't feel like buying a AT&T Fuze and having to unlock it for Rogers.
Is HTC making an unlocked North American version of the HTC Touch Pro?
The X1 has less RAM than the TP.
Ram:
TP = 288MB
X1 = 384MB
pjmiebach said:
Ram:
TP = 288MB
X1 = 384MB
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the official release of the xperia has 256 MB of RAM, not 384 like most ppl thought
I'm not sold on that X1, the TP still seems to have the upper hand - the X1's 4 row keyboard is way inferior to the 5 row on the TP in terms of user friendliness...
Also to the OP, try and import a UK TP, you get 3G/HSDPA/HSUPA and it's unlockable online... might be better than getting a crippled version by way of the Fuze...
mtlChris said:
the official release of the xperia has 256 MB of RAM, not 384 like most ppl thought
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's true...
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
No GSensor, no sale.
I'm glad I got the TP before the X1 came out.
that keyboard really does look pants! the 5 row on the touch pro is awesome, couldn't go back now. isn't a keyboard the main reason you would choose the touch pro / x1 over a diamond / touch hd / omnia?
X1 doesn't have accelerometer...and did you see how slow the screen rotated when he slid out the keyboard?!
i think telus is bringing touch pro to canada, and I wouldn't be surprised if Rogers does the same. They're practically ATT's lil brother. Everything ATT does, Rogers does too, except to a farther extent such as making you sign a 3 yr contract
worst case scenario: get an unlocked ATT version of TP.
My boss is a mobile freak, and getsa new one every month, he had the diamond and changed for the diamond pro and now bought the xperia.
He gave me the touch pro and i have the diamond also. I think the touch pro is alot more fun, its a bit smaller but still got power enough.
And the system on the xperia is not that special compared to the touch flo 3d. I really like the touch flo 3d.
I would buy the Diamond pro.
It seems like it would be a lot easier to type on the X1's larger QWERTY keyboard as 4 rows lends to bigger keys than 5 rows.
Also, don't the 3in screen, the aluminum construction, and extra inclusion of more 3G bands of the X1 count for something?
I like the Touch Pro, and may get one since I'm on ATT, but the tiny screen is so last generation device imo. I'm pretty confident, that the Touch Pro will be the last flagship device from HTC with the tiny 2.8in screen.
the diamond are slow too when use the acele.....
i prefer acele.... of the omnia, but of course i prefer the diamond becouse anothers cheats
omnia arey ou nuts??? the worst pda ive ever seen and the returns on that handset are stupdendiously high, ive tested my tp against the office omnia and mine p***es all over it
Lets not forget the GFX accel. of the X1. Sappose to be way better than the touch pro. I hear video playback is real nice on the X1 and with the larger screen, it looks outstanding! The touch pro is a REAL nice device but I've gotta say, the construction of the X1 is very sweet. I would not make the 5th row that much of an advantage over the X1. I saw a review where someone said they were typing mad fast after just an hour with the X1 so thats all I care about. + 288 vs. 256... Not even enought to make a difference! BTW, Someone did install panels on a touch pro and it was a slide show!
Eyy guys
I think the Touch Pro is and will be better than the X1, HTC ain´t that stupid, they won´t make a phone for another brand that is better than their own when they are competing in the same class...
That´s why the X1 lacks number keys and many other keys and accelerometer.
Mr.Sir said:
Eyy guys
I think the Touch Pro is and will be better than the X1, HTC ain´t that stupid, they won´t make a phone for another brand that is better than their own when they are competing in the same class...
That´s why the X1 lacks number keys and many other keys and accelerometer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its the same way with Samsung and Dell LCDs. Samsung saves the better displays for its own brand and Dell gets slightly lower quality LCDs from Sammy.
I've about decided to hold out for the Touch HD and use it on AT&Ts Edge network here in the US like im doing with my Touch Pro now. I know it would be nice to have 3G when I travel, but having a 3.8 Inch screen is so much better for media and reading text. All depends on how soon I can get my grubby little hands on a Touch HD.
Man if they added a keyboard to the HD and made it a true 3G world phone, I'd be so happy.
pjmiebach said:
Man if they added a keyboard to the HD and made it a true 3G world phone, I'd be so happy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you'd be looking at a gigantic phone...look at the diamond --> TP transition
I guess we'd be going back almost 2 decades to the brick phones
i like the idea of a keyboard...if only they could make it thinner.
pjmiebach said:
Man if they added a keyboard to the HD and made it a true 3G world phone, I'd be so happy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol, I seriously don't get the people that want a keyboard on the Touch HD. Go buy a UMPC or an HTC Athena if you want a brick like that. The Touch HD would be freaking HUGE with a keyboard.