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What does HTC have against a 3.5" VGA touchscreen with hardware video acceleration ?

What does HTC have against a 3.5" VGA touchscreen with hardware video acceleration ?
Aren't you tired of their tiny 2.8" QVGA screens with software video acceleration ?, how many years will they keep coming up with it and we'll keep buying it like hotcakes ?
Most of us would kill for a phone with the exact features that I've written in the subject line (on top of the current features of the Kaiser/Cruise) that runs Windows Mobile, yet HTC fails to deliver it.
Why ?
I mean, there is a huge market eagerly waiting for such phone (at *any* price), the technology is here for more than a year, so what's keeping them from making it ?
The Xperia is not the answer, since it's not a 3.5" screen, and according to current understanding it does not have hardware video acceleration (again!).
If any device that carries the name "Tytn" or "Touch" automatically gets a tiny 2.8" QVGA screen with software video acceleration, maybe it's time to ditch these names and come up with new family names for products that fit the technology state that we're in, and not the state that we were at 2005 !!!

so far, we already have the 3.5" VGA screen from the Universal...I would pay 700 € for a touch cruise with the screen of the universal!!!!
How can I use a touch screen if the icons are even difficult to select by stylus???

If only someone would have made bootcamp drivers for the new 3G iPhone, so it could run WM... I would have ditched HTC in a heartbeat.

and add a micoSD card to iphone too

Noam23 said:
If only someone would have made bootcamp drivers for the new 3G iPhone, so it could run WM... I would have ditched HTC in a heartbeat.
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Note that the iPhone will also receive Java support. The iPhone 2G (!) chipset itself, as I've already elaborated on it, has 3D HW acceleration; with a MIDlet manager supporting it, the platform can become a decent gaming platform.

"and according to current understanding it does not have hardware video acceleration (again!)."
as of yet it's only speculation what the final software platform of the Xperia will bring

Noam23 said:
and according to current understanding it does not have hardware video acceleration (again!).
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Not necessarily - have you read my devoted article?

go on ebay and buy an x51v. Sorry, it's not a phone !

Wow, someone really hates htc.. 3 threads of htc bashing...
Aren't you tired of their tiny 2.8" QVGA screens with software video acceleration ?,
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not really no... i think its a good size for a wmphone. i had the wizard -> universal and i much prefered the design of the wizard so i upgraded imo from the universal -> hermes.

these are pda phones, not a portable entertainment center.
sure it would be cool to have a better video support, and 3.5" screen would probably be cool too, but way too big after you factor in the actual size of the device.
people want smaller phones and they probably don't see a huge demand for larger screens.. honestly, im happy with the touch screen size.. i wouldn't want it any bigger as the device would have to be twice as big.
not to mention bigger power consumption, etc..
what they need to do is make better batteries.. with the technology these days we should be able to go days without a charge..
they can send spacecrafts to the other side of the universe and have it orbit another world but they can't make better batteries.
anyway, i can go on and on....

"they can send spacecrafts to the other side of the universe"
no they cant they can barely send them to the other side of the solar system
"sure it would be cool to have a better video support, and 3.5" screen would probably be cool too, but way too big after you factor in the actual size of the device."
thats about the size of the iphone plenty of people want that for now anyway
"what they need to do is make better batteries"
agree'd not just for phones but laptops too

Here you go: HTC's new phone with a VGA screen codenamed Raphael:
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Raphael features a full QWERTY deal and is destined to replace the Mogul. The paperwork's pretty blurry, but it appears that this Windows Mobile device will feature WiFi, 3 megapixel cameras, and -- get this -- VGA displays. Goodness! The Raphael is currently lined up to be the first out of the gate, hitting the streets in September.
Its going to be launched under Sprint

Do a search on the flame. Thats everything that you have been asking for.

The Raphael still have the tiny 2.8" screen (why ???), and we don't know if it has hardware video acceleration.
The O2 XDA Flame is a wonderful device, and I considered it before purchasing the Kaiser, but it does not have GPS. The O2 XDA Flame with GPS (maybe minus several grams) would have been a wonderful device.

Noam23 said:
The Raphael still have the tiny 2.8" screen (why ???), and we don't know if it has hardware video acceleration.
The O2 XDA Flame is a wonderful device, and I considered it before purchasing the Kaiser, but it does not have GPS. The O2 XDA Flame with GPS (maybe minus several grams) would have been a wonderful device.
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Perhaps he has meant the HTC Omni ;-)

if I could have a 3.5 vga screen id be one happy camper.
Too bad diamond and raphael will have 2.8.
Oh well, maybe next year

Noam23 said:
Aren't you tired of their tiny 2.8" QVGA screens with software video acceleration ?, how many years will they keep coming up with it and we'll keep buying it like hotcakes ?
Most of us would kill for a phone with the exact features that I've written in the subject line (on top of the current features of the Kaiser/Cruise) that runs Windows Mobile, yet HTC fails to deliver it.
Why ?
I mean, there is a huge market eagerly waiting for such phone (at *any* price), the technology is here for more than a year, so what's keeping them from making it ?
The Xperia is not the answer, since it's not a 3.5" screen, and according to current understanding it does not have hardware video acceleration (again!).
If any device that carries the name "Tytn" or "Touch" automatically gets a tiny 2.8" QVGA screen with software video acceleration, maybe it's time to ditch these names and come up with new family names for products that fit the technology state that we're in, and not the state that we were at 2005 !!!
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If sources are right then, your request for a large screen may just be answered by HTC with not an 3.5 but a 4inch, that right 4 inch, screen in the HTC Omni.
http://mobilitysite.com/2007/07/htc-omni-details-leaked/
But as people mentioned earlier in this thread, it's going to be big, and i'm not sure that's a good thing.

Anyone recommend a VGA replacement for my TyTN II??

Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone has had much experience trying to replace a TyTN II. I've been really please with it, but I don't really use the keyboard and would really love a VGA screen.
I've looked at the Eten X650 and X800 but the reviews are a bit mixed to say the least and I'm just not sure!
So has anyone made the switch from an HTC device to an Eten or i-mate etc successfully or any other similar phone? And found them to be useable?!?!
Any suggestions on a new model would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advanced,
Gadget.

You could look at the Touch Diamond. If you want a keyboard wait for the Touch Pro.

gadgetdude, similar situation here. Except I'm moving from a standard tytn to an I-mate 9502 and I need the keyboard. This is only day 2 in the switch for me, but I can say it's different. One big thing I miss is the lack of the great HTC apps like the home plugin, audio manager, and task manager. That hurts. Also, I gotta say, while the VGA is good for browsing and makes the fonts look great, it's kinda of a waste on a 2.8" screen.
This phone is a little quirky compared to the tytn, but it has some good points. I'll probably be using it until the X1 comes out. Good luck.

Now with all the VGA devices coming out, I would have thought someone would have converted the original HTC home to fit VGA. I know there is currently a version out there that works but it makes every so damn small. Imagine how the original HTC would look in VGA if it fit to the screen lke the QVGA version does.

More info...
Thanks dudes for all you're input.
Still not sure tho - the Touch Pro looks rather cool! And I guess it'll have proper VGA versions of the HTC software?!
Has anyone got any opinions on the 'joystick' control on the Eten X800 or X650 though? I'm still not convinced whether it'll be a real pain or not!
Cheers dudes!

Have you looked at the tosh g900?
This actually has the highest res screen on any windows mobile device (to my knowledge) at 800x480. Its gorgeous for browsing and looking at pictures/photo's etc. It can be a bit slow when rotating orientation but thats the only time.
The original firmware was VERY buggy and so it built up a reputation according to this - bear in mind though, it was brand new and early adoption should expect issues. This reputation is now unfounded imho. Since firmware 3.01 and above, its rock solid and I never have to reboot mine.
This is what I do on mine without any issues/crashes:
Today screen extra's -
HTC X-Button,
SPB Weather,
SPB Backup,
Rhinocode Launch Pro,
Corner-A PDA Status
Other apps installed and working -
Saman SMSDeliveryReceiptFix
Micromega MSS Converter
ZoomSMS
YouTube Player
OneNote (although, this wont pull notes FROM the PC but will push TOO the pc)
MS Voicecommand
Google Maps
Route66 (sadly, the only Satnav i've found to work correctly with its high res screen)
Oh something else this phone did first, afaik, was to have a USB hub in it! You wont believe how handy it is to plug in USB storage devices (right up to external 3.5" disks!) at work to move stuff around.
The fingerprint security/program launcher is excellent - wish more phones had it! I also use the phone constantly on 3g/hsdpa as a modem for my pc and browse the web loads. I've had to buy a 3000mamp battery which makes the phone a bit bulky but to be fair, i don't think there are many people who are as heavy users as me. I also have configured a mail2web push email and a couple of pop 3 accounts.
BUT I am getting rid for two reasons:
No built in GPS
camera is w*&k
I am waiting for the Samsung I900 Omnia which is released any day now here in England.
Samsung http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=samsung+i900&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
Tosh http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=tosh+g900&meta=

I had the eten M800 and the joystick was ok. It made it abit larger when in your pocket. Personally I like the joystick on the imate 8502. This joystick is the best I've used yet buty personally I like the 5-way pad over any joystick.

If screen resolution is a top priority, then take a look at Sony Xperia X1, it does have a physical keyboard but has a WVGA screen, thats 800 by 480. It's designed by HTC and marketed by Sony Ericsson, so best of both worlds.

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If screen resolution is a top priority, then take a look at Sony Xperia X1, it does have a physical keyboard but has a WVGA screen, thats 800 by 480. It's designed by HTC and marketed by Sony Ericsson, so best of both worlds.
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and also not out until end of this year/early next year(?) .... continualy delayed product. By the time it comes out its going to be old. Compared to the G900 it offers very little extra and the G900 was out almost a year ago (and so has had all the bugs ironed out of it, something a brand new product will not be able to claim), specialy a Windows Mobile device.

you can also wait for the futur Toshiba G920 or G910
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but i thought there is a bounty for whoever to unlock the video processor within the tytn ii or tilt that is not being used at all...if someone is able to show us how to make use of that wouldnt that improve the resolution plus 3d games?

jtoyz2 said:
... unlock the video processor within the tytn ii or tilt that is not being used at all......
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Sadly thats the case with a lot of phones. A great many smartphones out there have this issue. For example, my G900 has the Nvidia chipset in it but it aint used properly, and with an 800x480 screen, it would make a massive diference.
Why, oh why do they not give them drivers?

its not just phone company i remember the psp was like that as well...originally was a faster processor but they blocked it...off topic...anyways i seen a video of someone tapping into the graphic chip on the tytn ii maybe there is still hope...

Thanks for all the input on this.
In the end after much soul searching (well, phone searching, anyway!) I decided to go for the new Touch Diamond. Seems to fit what I'm after the most.
It's arriving tomorrow and I can't wait!!

Gadgetdude,
You have PM
WB

Raphael Vs Xperia

Anyone done a comparison? That Xperia looks like it could be fabulous.

there is a bit here
http://smape.com/en/reviews//Sony_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1-prev.html
featurewise anyway

To my knowledge the Xperia isn't even out yet.
Also to US customers I hear that The Xperia isn't coming to AT&T, just to T-Mobile. I bet you could unlock it, but I think the 3G frequencies of AT&T and T-Mobs USA are different.
So if you have AT&T the Choice is clear...
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Of course the main reason to get a Touch Pro is the keyboard, otherwise you'd be getting the smaller, sexier Diamond. So for a majority of TP buyers, keyboard = important.
First thing I thought when I saw the X1 was "ugh what a nasty uncomfortable looking keyboard". Most hands-on comparisons I've read pretty much confirm it.
So, the main reason to get a bulkier slider device is the keyboard, and it's keyboard is a failure. Of course, not everyone will be so fussy about the keyboard, but for me it knocked the X1 clean out of the race.

The Raphaels keboard is far better, and the Raphaels TF3D/Manila destroys Panels (although the fish were kinda cool ).

Rudegar said:
there is a bit here
http://smape.com/en/reviews//Sony_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1-prev.html
featurewise anyway
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BTW, for anyone who doesn't know Russian,
"Дисплей:" means display.
Also, the Raphael has 288MB of RAM (32 of which are because of the chipset, which means the X1 may have it as well.)

Regarding the panels interface, I bet that will be ripped to other WinMo devices before you know it!!
Also I was thinking, is it really a proper interface or is just a bunch of background applications presented in that "panel" form, for example like the "expose" thing you get on a mac?
If so someone could create an app for all winmo device that "exposes" running apps into a panel view, you then tap the one you want to go to and it maximises/brings it to front...
amirite?

Syphon Filter said:
Regarding the panels interface, I bet that will be ripped to other WinMo devices before you know it!!
Also I was thinking, is it really a proper interface or is just a bunch of background applications presented in that "panel" form, for example like the "expose" thing you get on a mac?
If so someone could create an app for all winmo device that "exposes" running apps into a panel view, you then tap the one you want to go to and it maximises/brings it to front...
amirite?
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Since the very first leaked X1 ROMs, I've been attempting to port it to QVGA, but it doesn't work...
It's an Expose like task manager, but you can also have preset "Desktops".
The closest to getting tasks displayed as images ATM would be Roozbehs 3DAltTab.

JimmyMcGee said:
To my knowledge the Xperia isn't even out yet.
Also to US customers I hear that The Xperia isn't coming to AT&T, just to T-Mobile. I bet you could unlock it, but I think the 3G frequencies of AT&T and T-Mobs USA are different.
So if you have AT&T the Choice is clear...
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LOL, nice jimmy

At this moment I got a TyTN II (Kaiser) in my pocket. Is the Touch Pro (Raphael) the continuator or is there coming a TyTN III?
The current price here in the Netherlands between the TyTN II and the Touch Pro is very small. Should the Omni the next generation TyTN -> TyTN III?

My decision is like follows:
I buy a Touch Pro if HTC manages to increase the 3G reception to a normal level before Xperia X1 is on sale. I'd prefer the Touch Pro mainly because of the better keyboard, but reception is even more important for me. Without reception a phone is a worthless piece of plastic.
If HTC fails on the Touch Pro and the Xperia X1 shows an acceptable reception, then I'll be still happy and buy the X1. I will tell myself that the more HW Keys, more LEDs and bigger screen (resolution) was worth it.
But if both fail I have to stick with my TyTN until the next generation is announced. (...and I really want a new toy! (NOW!))

Side by Side Comparison
Found this comparison on smape also...
http://smape.com/en/reviews//HTC_Touch_Pro-Sony_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1-prev.html

The TouchPro also has TV-OUT, though cable not included

At this moment I got a TyTN II (Kaiser) in my pocket. Is the Touch Pro (Raphael) the continuator or is there coming a TyTN III?
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The Touch Pro (Raphael) is the successor to TyTN II (Kaiser), so you could say that it is the "TyTN III". Nobody knows whether HTC will make a TyTN III later of course, but in that case it would be the successor to the Raphael, so such a naming scheme makes little sense.

I really had a hard time deciding between the Xperia and the Touch Pro, but i finally decided to get the Touch pro because
- the mainstream screen resolution: more likely that most apps will work with it
- a little smaller in size
- keyboard with arrows (i use them a lot)
- no release date for Xperia yet (alltough i think that would change fast now), and my tytn was dying
- TV out
- TF3D looks really slick
- A lot more support for the Touch Pro on this forum
The only advantage of the Xperia over the touch pro were the metal finish (alltough im very pleased with the looks of the Touch pro, it looks better in real life then on photo, and my gf thinks it's a very sexy phone) and the bigger screen.

Incarniac said:
The Touch Pro (Raphael) is the successor to TyTN II (Kaiser), so you could say that it is the "TyTN III". Nobody knows whether HTC will make a TyTN III later of course, but in that case it would be the successor to the Raphael, so such a naming scheme makes little sense.
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Probably have abandoned the TyTN series now i think, the TyTN II was released before the Touch, Touch cruise etc... More likely they will carry on the touch branding or start a new series?

l3v5y said:
... and the Raphaels TF3D/Manila destroys Panels ...
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true, it does... but... how long will we in the modifications community leave the X1 alone? not long, me thinks. The X1 will have TF3D/Manilla available within the first few weeks of its release, which will run in one of the 9 panels (lets see the iphone do that!), and then the only shortfall will of course be the keyboard and tv-out, which you can't upgrade. but the X1 is a much sexier phone... >sigh< well KRAP! I guess I'll just have to buy one of each

ouch Pro vs. Xperia
mr_Ray said:
Of course the main reason to get a Touch Pro is the keyboard, otherwise you'd be getting the smaller, sexier Diamond. So for a majority of TP buyers, keyboard = important.
First thing I thought when I saw the X1 was "ugh what a nasty uncomfortable looking keyboard". Most hands-on comparisons I've read pretty much confirm it.
So, the main reason to get a bulkier slider device is the keyboard, and it's keyboard is a failure. Of course, not everyone will be so fussy about the keyboard, but for me it knocked the X1 clean out of the race.
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The keyboard is one of the features, (agree, the Toch Pro seem to have the better one) but the overall use should make the decission. The complete UMTS band and all 4 GMS break the choice. Travelling with the Touch Pro will be difficult without the bandwith. Will see when both US Versions will be available.

Will X1 be supported by XDA-Developers?
A question for senior members/moderators: Since the X1 will be manufactured by HTC, will it be supported here on xda-developers.com in the forum and wiki area? If it were, that may sway some decisions in its favor. (truthfully, i'm having a hard time deciding)
Thanks in advance...

I was going back and forth on both devices but finally decided to take Touch Pro for some reasons:
- "real" HTC devices has a very big community
- Touch Pro has a light sensor
- Touch Pro has a g-sensor
- it is as small as an Magician
- it is going to be released soon (SE actually has not)

HTC Touch Pro VS. Sony Xperia X1 (unboxed)

Just saw the following video:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/13/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-unboxed-played-with-on-video/
unboxing of the X1.
Since I live in Canada, would it be wise to change my TP to an X1? Reason is that the TP has no 3G in Canada and Rogers has not mentioned anything about it but they are getting the 3G Touch Diamond soon.
I can live without the video output and less keys on the keyboard but the video resolution might be a problem with some apps
According to pdadb.net, the X1 has more RAM than the TP.
I don't feel like buying a AT&T Fuze and having to unlock it for Rogers.
Is HTC making an unlocked North American version of the HTC Touch Pro?

The X1 has less RAM than the TP.

Ram:
TP = 288MB
X1 = 384MB

pjmiebach said:
Ram:
TP = 288MB
X1 = 384MB
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the official release of the xperia has 256 MB of RAM, not 384 like most ppl thought

I'm not sold on that X1, the TP still seems to have the upper hand - the X1's 4 row keyboard is way inferior to the 5 row on the TP in terms of user friendliness...

Also to the OP, try and import a UK TP, you get 3G/HSDPA/HSUPA and it's unlockable online... might be better than getting a crippled version by way of the Fuze...

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the official release of the xperia has 256 MB of RAM, not 384 like most ppl thought
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No GSensor, no sale.
I'm glad I got the TP before the X1 came out.

that keyboard really does look pants! the 5 row on the touch pro is awesome, couldn't go back now. isn't a keyboard the main reason you would choose the touch pro / x1 over a diamond / touch hd / omnia?

X1 doesn't have accelerometer...and did you see how slow the screen rotated when he slid out the keyboard?!
i think telus is bringing touch pro to canada, and I wouldn't be surprised if Rogers does the same. They're practically ATT's lil brother. Everything ATT does, Rogers does too, except to a farther extent such as making you sign a 3 yr contract
worst case scenario: get an unlocked ATT version of TP.

My boss is a mobile freak, and getsa new one every month, he had the diamond and changed for the diamond pro and now bought the xperia.
He gave me the touch pro and i have the diamond also. I think the touch pro is alot more fun, its a bit smaller but still got power enough.
And the system on the xperia is not that special compared to the touch flo 3d. I really like the touch flo 3d.
I would buy the Diamond pro.

It seems like it would be a lot easier to type on the X1's larger QWERTY keyboard as 4 rows lends to bigger keys than 5 rows.
Also, don't the 3in screen, the aluminum construction, and extra inclusion of more 3G bands of the X1 count for something?
I like the Touch Pro, and may get one since I'm on ATT, but the tiny screen is so last generation device imo. I'm pretty confident, that the Touch Pro will be the last flagship device from HTC with the tiny 2.8in screen.

the diamond are slow too when use the acele.....
i prefer acele.... of the omnia, but of course i prefer the diamond becouse anothers cheats

omnia arey ou nuts??? the worst pda ive ever seen and the returns on that handset are stupdendiously high, ive tested my tp against the office omnia and mine p***es all over it

Lets not forget the GFX accel. of the X1. Sappose to be way better than the touch pro. I hear video playback is real nice on the X1 and with the larger screen, it looks outstanding! The touch pro is a REAL nice device but I've gotta say, the construction of the X1 is very sweet. I would not make the 5th row that much of an advantage over the X1. I saw a review where someone said they were typing mad fast after just an hour with the X1 so thats all I care about. + 288 vs. 256... Not even enought to make a difference! BTW, Someone did install panels on a touch pro and it was a slide show!

Eyy guys
I think the Touch Pro is and will be better than the X1, HTC ain´t that stupid, they won´t make a phone for another brand that is better than their own when they are competing in the same class...
That´s why the X1 lacks number keys and many other keys and accelerometer.

Mr.Sir said:
Eyy guys
I think the Touch Pro is and will be better than the X1, HTC ain´t that stupid, they won´t make a phone for another brand that is better than their own when they are competing in the same class...
That´s why the X1 lacks number keys and many other keys and accelerometer.
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Its the same way with Samsung and Dell LCDs. Samsung saves the better displays for its own brand and Dell gets slightly lower quality LCDs from Sammy.
I've about decided to hold out for the Touch HD and use it on AT&Ts Edge network here in the US like im doing with my Touch Pro now. I know it would be nice to have 3G when I travel, but having a 3.8 Inch screen is so much better for media and reading text. All depends on how soon I can get my grubby little hands on a Touch HD.

Man if they added a keyboard to the HD and made it a true 3G world phone, I'd be so happy.

pjmiebach said:
Man if they added a keyboard to the HD and made it a true 3G world phone, I'd be so happy.
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you'd be looking at a gigantic phone...look at the diamond --> TP transition
I guess we'd be going back almost 2 decades to the brick phones
i like the idea of a keyboard...if only they could make it thinner.

pjmiebach said:
Man if they added a keyboard to the HD and made it a true 3G world phone, I'd be so happy.
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Lol, I seriously don't get the people that want a keyboard on the Touch HD. Go buy a UMPC or an HTC Athena if you want a brick like that. The Touch HD would be freaking HUGE with a keyboard.

Best value for money WM phone

Hi guys
I'm looking for a good value for money windows mobile phone.
It has to have
Touch Screen
QWERTY keyboard
At least 128MB of ram
At least 400mhz CPU
Decent battery life.
Mini USB connection
Good ROM development.
I have owned
HTC S630 (64mb & 200mhz)
Imate 8502 (Good specs but no rom development)
Samsung C6625 (Good specs but not touch screen and little rom dev)
I've been looking at the HP Ipaq data messenger (£150 new ebay) but I hear its got a crap battery life.
I'm not looking to spend £300 ($500) on a phone!
Something perhaps around £180.
Has to be pay as you go. I avoid contracts like a plague!
Thanks.

get a kaiser / tilt

HTC all the way
Rhodium is the best hardware keyboard device you can find this days.
It´s a great piece of work with a great design.
You won´t regret it.
With some luck you can find a tmobile version very cheap this days, have a look on marketplace section

MoneyFist said:
I've been looking at the HP Ipaq data messenger (£150 new ebay) but I hear its got a crap battery life.
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Do NOT, I repeat, NOT get an iPAQ DM. I have it laying in front of me here. It fails on so many levels it ain't even funny. Let me name all bad things about it:
1. The battery lasts 1 day with luck.
2. Getting a GPS lock can easily take 10 minutes.
3. It has the standard Windows Mobile UI, which blows.
4. Even if you install SPB Mobile Shell, be prepared for lockups.
5. The keyboard is crap. It doesn't type good at all, I had the phone for 7 months and I still ain't that fast on it.
6. My 'E' and 'V' button begin having troubles early on. Where I had to press extra hard to use them.
7. Pretty much no chance at WinMo 6.5.x, as the boot loader is encrypted.
8. The QVGA screen is near useless.
9. The camera is completely useless. It has no autofocus, is blurry as hell. And taking a picture can take 5 seconds. And if you want to delete the picture or take a new one, it's gonna load 5 minutes again.
10. Unless you're using some simple WiFi encryption like WEP, don't expect to have a connection all the time.
11. All the hardware buttons on the side are way too hard to press.
12. It has no Mini USB, it looks like it, but it's some HP-proprietary nonsense.
13. ROM development is 0.0, like I said, encrypted.
14. It failed so hard, HP canceled production of it not long after it was released.
15. Just don't get this phone. You'll regret it.

kekkle said:
Do NOT, I repeat...Just don't get this phone. You'll regret it.
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Tell us how you really feel. LOL

my suggestion is no matter what qwerty keyboard phone u get DO NOT GET THE SE XPERIA X1 that phone have a 512 cpu and i think like a 800 mbs on. im currently using it and im VERY unhappy with the phone. i was hoping it to be better then it should be. if u dont drops your phone or anything i would suggest a Nokia N97 or a Nokia N900
i personally would give a rating of the X1 from a 3 outta 5.
some people are havin problems with the bluetooth(headset) on the x1 and i am too.(bluetooth static noise) i personally dont like the virbration of the phone,the loudness. the phone is VERY low when is on max. and when i have the phone in my pocket i TOTALY dont feel the phone virbrating in my pocket.and most of the time the Camera frezzes on me and that lead into a phone freeze.i had a Nokia N97 and im very happy with it. i thought the SE X1 would be better then the N97 and stupid enough to sold the N97. EXTREMELY UNHaPPY WITH SE X1. AND VERY UNHAPPY WITH SE COUSTOMER SERVICES! im saying that because my phone is still under warrently, my phone having problems they're gunna make me pay 200$ to get my phone fix.. i would highly suggest N97.
N97 space is by G and the CPU is 1GHZ

orb3000 said:
Rhodium is the best hardware keyboard device you can find this days.
It´s a great piece of work with a great design.
You won´t regret it.
With some luck you can find a tmobile version very cheap this days, have a look on marketplace section
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+1...the Rhodium is great, and nails every one of your requirements

This ones easy. If you want to pay $250 - $300 get an HD2, if you want to pay $100 - $250 get a Touch Pro 2/Tilt2/Rhodium. Both are abosolutely killer phones and you can pick them up second hand for pennies on the dollar. I say an HD2 because you think you have to have a real KB but after using the HD2 touch KB you won't need it anymore. I bought a mint ATT TILT2 for $150 the other day, then I bought an HD2 kit with everything and less then 5 hours on the phone total for $250. Everyone is selling their smart phones to pay the $300 for the new iphone so you can get phones for nothing now in local classifieds.

krook6023 said:
Tell us how you really feel. LOL
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Hehe, there's only one thing I really miss from the phone. That is the mute slider on top. As it allows you to quickly put the phone on vibrate and back on sound. Especially great in meetings. You just slide your hand in your pocket and do it quickly without even having to get it out.
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+1 Rhodium