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Moving to universal from BA

Hi Guys,
I hate to just appear to be begging for info on this board, but having answered a few questions in the BA forums in my time, I hope I'll be allowed to take the easy route just this once.
I've just upgraded my BlueAngel to a Universal and I'm looking to immediately install WM6 and start cooking roms.
I've been furiously reading everything I can find on the subject, but I've still got quite a few questions that seem to be unanswered.
- Pre-cooked Rom version
To get started, I'd just like to flash a known good WM6 ROM and find my way around.
- Laurentis 26?
- Ivan v6a?
- Helmi?
Laurentis seems to be the only one actively developed at the moment, but I'm unsure as to the stability/speed tradeoffs offered by any of the above roms.
- Kitchen
Which is the most up-to-date (AKU and scene bug fixes) kitchen? So far I've found about 5 of them.
- Known bugs
The BA had plenty of known bugs in WM5 (BT wakeup being chief amongst them). Which bugs are unsolved or ever-present in WM6 on universal? I hear dark murmurings of memory leaks in old versions of WM6, and plenty of chatter about videocalling not working fully. What's the status on all this?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Before I start, my Uni died in July just not too long after when Video Call is available on WM6 athough non Video Call WM6 exists since Dec 06 from Helmi.
So my Uni died with Helmi's WM5 Aku3.5 v1.3, one of the most stable around, not much problem using for more than half a year.
WM6 ROM I have not used, but from the active reading following from Dec 06 which was mean to prepare for upgrade, Laurantius WM6 V7 Video should be one you should try and also the improve Video Call from Indra.
As for Kitchen, I think you should use the one created by Laurentius too.
By the way, where did you get your Uni, used or brand new?
Thinking of getting 1 new, but I think it is difficult. I miss my Uni very much.

Thanks for the advice CWKJ. Laurentius' ROM/Kitchen it is.
Sorry to hear about yor uni. If it helps, I was gutted when my trusty BA finally fell apart.
My Uni came used from ebay UK. £170 including 2gb SD card. I had to keep the costs down, so a used phone was my only real option.
If you have the time then you can snipe an auction and push the price down a little more, but not a great deal (I've seen them sell for £130 without a memcard).
At retail they seem to cost > £400.

thingonaspring said:
Thanks for the advice CWKJ. Laurentius' ROM/Kitchen it is.
Sorry to hear about yor uni. If it helps, I was gutted when my trusty BA finally fell apart.
My Uni came used from ebay UK. £170 including 2gb SD card. I had to keep the costs down, so a used phone was my only real option.
If you have the time then you can snipe an auction and push the price down a little more, but not a great deal (I've seen them sell for £130 without a memcard).
At retail they seem to cost > £400.
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Hi Thingonaspring,
If you hang fire on flashing, Laurentius and I should be release a new WM6 Rom this week......... well worth waiting for.
If you take a look at the last page of the Video Call Poll thread, you'll see a list (incomplete at the moment) of what is in the Rom.
It is well worth waiting for, huge improvements in performace and stability over all previous Wm6builds for the Uni.
We should hopefully have a kitchen out with the new build by the end of the year.
Welcome to the Uni forum!
Cheers,
Beast

hi thingonaspring,
so we meet again. was a BA user for a quite a while before i broke it.
upgraded to Uni (Vodaphone variant) since last month & currently playing around with it too!
tried most of the new WM6 ROMs (except Indra's XOJ) the major problems are frequent hangs or freeze either when receiving sms or calls & memory leak. Some say that those problems are specific to ROM-Uni variant combination (O2, Dopod, T-Mo, Voda, etc.), so I won't be specific to which one is better. speed is relatively similar in all these ROM's as pagepool is set either 6 or 8 Mb. you'll be missing the large memory resource of the BA!
anyway, other than those you mentioned, there's also a Indra's XOJ, PDAViet & KDSKamal WM6 ROMs. a new one is coming from Laurentius & Beast. i think video call will be solved soon. i'm currently back to Darkforce WM5 ROM for stability reasons, hate missing calls during work!
you may check this thread too.
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@CWKJ,
a brand new "unsold left over" UNI (O2 Exec variant) retails around S$ 895 in Jakarta, might be worth giving a try since it's close by Singapore.

@rhmartin
Good to see you too. It's reassuring to see how much of the BA crowd has got behind the Uni. Have helmi_c or lt_cmdr_ivan been around lately?
@beast
Good news that a new build is on the way, I'll wait to use that one first then, may as well start from the best point possible.
Good luck with your+laurentius' efforts.

thingonaspring said:
@rhmartin
Good to see you too. It's reassuring to see how much of the BA crowd has got behind the Uni. Have helmi_c or lt_cmdr_ivan been around lately?.
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Helmi_c replaced his Uni & don't know what new device he owns, last post I saw from him is on PPCGeeks forum.
Not so many active UNI ROM developer around now, thanks to the time, effort & talent of Laurentius, Beast, Indra, KDSKamal, PDAViet & Darkforce. Through them we get ROM refresh/updates, unfortunately most of the core are based on midget_1990's old WM6 build. We hope someone can port a newer WM6 build from other devices (hopefully a newer VGA & 3G device).
Maybe you can help!

Well, I've put laurentius v7 on the thing and it's running nicely.
I've also nabbed a copy of the latest Athena ROM to see what's in there. Perhaps some of it can be useful.
On a sadder note, I noticed the news about tofclock today. :-(

thingonaspring said:
Well, I've put laurentius v7 on the thing and it's running nicely.
I've also nabbed a copy of the latest Athena ROM to see what's in there. Perhaps some of it can be useful.
On a sadder note, I noticed the news about tofclock today. :-(
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Hi,
I'm an ex BA user too, how I miss that memory and overclocking ability (still have her fully functional though)
Leo's V7 is a good choice, hopefully we'll have the new one out soon enough.
Very sad news about TofClock, everyone was shocked, such a great guy, always happy to help, will be sadly missed by us all.
The Athena isn't much use, it's ATI based, but you could still port some stuff if you wanted.
Cheers,
Beast

rhmartin said:
@CWKJ,
a brand new "unsold left over" UNI (O2 Exec variant) retails around S$ 895 in Jakarta, might be worth giving a try since it's close by Singapore.
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Thanks for your info.
You mean S$895 = SGD895 and new?
rhmartin said:
you'll be missing the large memory resource of the BA!
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Miss the large resource, come to O2 XDA Flame, it has 2GB Flash and 128MB Ram.

thingonaspring said:
Have helmi_c or lt_cmdr_ivan been around lately?
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The last Uni Rom Release by Helmi was Uni WM6 v1.1 and its kitchen (one of the earlier ones) and I think he broke the Uni and he is I think in the forum of another device (I cannot remember), make a search for him and you will know which device forum he frequent.
Ivan also declared he has release the last Uni WM6 ROM.
The active person here is Leo & Beast.

CWKJ said:
Thanks for your info.
You mean S$895 = SGD895 and new?
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Yes my friend, SGD895 or IDR 5.500.000,- to be exact. Brand new O2 Exec package complete with box, adapter, cd, headset, & 1 year warranty from O2. That particular store in Roxy Mas (can't remember the name) had 3 units on stock early July (last month).
It was a bargain considering that latest branded 3G Smartphones are more or less priced the same. The stores are currently promoting HTC Athena & Nokia E90 (~IDR 14.000.000,-) & getting rid of older HTC PPC's. I didn't took note of the WM5 shipped ROM build since I'm "really green" on Uni that time.
I wish I could help more but I seldom visit Roxy & right now busy at work, hope you have friends or relatives in Jakarta that could scout for it!

hi there, still using my xda 2s( BA variant) for its ram( o gawd, the best machine ever created) but exec is way too cool to be not used, if only exec ram is also as big as ba....perfect machine
got mine 2nd hand too, miracle part, flawless condition.
i believe wm5 and 6 almost the same in every aspect, maybe some icon tweak but while waiting for beast 0898, why not try the variant of wm5 rom??
my favourite for now will be kdskamal rom.stable and way better then the original o2 rom.
@rhmartin
wow e90 in indo so expensive yah ^^; in singapore you can get it for just SGD 1328 (x6000) not to mention that price is the launching price.
jakarta mana btw ni man

@beast - Athena not much use
Good point about the ATI chip - what did midget port from originally?

genocide said:
@rhmartin
wow e90 in indo so expensive yah ^^; in singapore you can get it for just SGD 1328 (x6000) not to mention that price is the launching price.
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That was the launching & booking price!
jakarta mana btw ni man
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you mean Roxy Mas? It's like the elex stores Sim Lim or Fu Nan in Singapore, you ask for the cell phone/pda center in Jakarta & people would lead you there!

Nice device, now sod off

Is it me or is this device just not all that popular?
I say this because if you look at the Diamond forum, that's busting with activity, and yet for some reason, the Raphael, which I fooking love I might add (frankly, if it doesn't have an integrated keyboard, it just doesn't win for me) - is just not attracting much attention.
I guess there's the fact it's a premium to the Diamond, and it's a bit fatter, but honestly, now that it's out, who here would still choose the diamond over it?

Olipro said:
Is it me or is this device just not all that popular?
I say this because if you look at the Diamond forum, that's busting with activity, and yet for some reason, the Raphael, which I fooking love I might add (frankly, if it doesn't have an integrated keyboard, it just doesn't win for me) - is just not attracting much attention.
I guess there's the fact it's a premium to the Diamond, and it's a bit fatter, but honestly, now that it's out, who here would still choose the diamond over it?
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Nope aint gonna happen. Methinks alot of the users who trawl endlessly from device to device have missed this in favour of the diamond. I prefer it to be a premium device with a less commercial crowd anyways, makes me enjoy my device a bit more if not many people have it. AND ofcourse, no keyboard means no go for me also.

Well the Diamond has been around a bit longer.
Since I leave my phone on my desk at work, most of my workmates have seen the Pro now. Only two had ever heard of HTC before. (Being in Finland, Nokia is pretty much what everyone has) But all asked more about it, and found it interesting. Even more so when I slid out the keyboard and showed that you can use the stylus to transcribe, then the real interest came about.
The Pro when not in use, just looks like a fat phone, and that scares some people. (Even though it is thinner than the N95 I upgraded from.)
Plus, I feel that the Diamond got a lot more push than the Pro seems to have done.
Luckily some apps on the Diamond do in fact work on the Pro, so not all is lost. But it is a shame that we have to look at two different forums. If the apps/hacks/tweaks work on both, then I think a lot more cross linking should be done!

I think the Diamond is the more available of the two at the moment (O2 UK don't have it) and a lot of people wanting to upgrade went there because this phone wasn't availbale.
On the keyboard ground though, the Kaiser was massively popular over the Polaris. Although, I'll be sticking with HW Keyboard devices from now on.
My 1.07775 pence
Ta
Dave

Have both Diamond and pro in our house
I like the diamond, but wife likes the pro, she does a lot more txt than me.

I think it's a case of the Diamond being around longer and the fact that in general it uses the same hardware. Therefore the questions that people ask are more likely to have been asked and answered on the diamond forum, than on here.

ryraum said:
I like the diamond, but wife likes the pro, she does a lot more txt than me.
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WTF! you just made the Pro a girly phone!

yeah, so we have our own little niche for now... sod the diamond, the Raphael is definitely superior, though AT&T's decision for the keyboard layout is crap

Also keep in mind that the touch pro is pretty much non-existent in the US. The diamond was just released here in the US with sprint, and the US 3G gsm version was also recently released, that's why you have so much interest. Once the touch pro is released by at&t you will see this forum explode with activity. The same thing happened last year when the kaiser was first released, and then when the tilt was released by at&t.

Girly Phone
Xtreme XL said:
WTF! you just made the Pro a girly phone!
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My good lady would love to girly, But is a senior manager and barks and bites.
(good job she can not read this)

My good lady would love to girly, But is a senior manager and barks and bites.
(good job she can not read this)
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you hope hehe
allot of my frined got the diamond and only me and a friend have the touch pro out of the 2 id say ours is better
my friend is on 02 and hes got one so 02 are selling them in the uk
tbh from day one i flashed the rom to romeos 1.05 and did a few little things to personalise it and its been really good so far my last handset was a kaiser and there are some things i miss from the the full screen tilt for instance should have been on this phone then it would have been perfect maybe thats just me spending a year with my kaiser (my girlfriend still thinks he kaiser is better) the t3d stuff took some getting used to but think the touch pro is a awesome handset

I know this is an international board, but I think once providers in the US start releasing it I expect a lot more activity in here.

I'm also surprised by the lack of action on the Raphael forum.
I've owned the Diamond (which is much more sexier than the Raphael). But I upgraded to the Raphael as soon as it became available because of the cardslot and more memory. I don't txt that much so the keyboard isn't that important to me (but nice to have )
Guess the Diamond is more popular at the moment. Or al lot of the Diamond owners are saving to upgrade to the Raphael

I think the Touch Pro will become more popular in time, but now maybe it's to expensive for some people. There are also a lot of people who purchased the Diamond and later on they discovered that the Touch Pro was coming out, one colleague of mine regrets that he has bought the Diamond.
but like Olipro said Nice device, now sod off

If I get my hands on one, and this is my local forum (so to speak) I would rather it was quieter. Athena Elf and to some extent Hermes were great (Hermes ws just a bit too big) but Kaiser was just too huge. And I used to spend a lot of time in the Diamond forums whe it first came out, but it instantly filled wth noobs (I know we all wer once) when it was released on the networks. Then I left because it went from interesting discussion about the device to problem solving.
I think the Pro is just too expensive to become insanely popular in a Diamond-esque way. In a similar way to the Athena, its for a pretty specifc user.
For people who dont mind the bulk but are just general users, they can get a kaiser for about £150 on ebay, or £200 new. Or if theyre a general user, but wnt small and thin, they can get a Diamond (£250) so £500 plus for this is a bit unjustifiable until prices drop...
So if I get one I hope it stays small like it is now, and with very knowledgable people rather than noobs.
Rory

Even the Touch Pro isnt released everywhere. In germany the Vario IV is in stock since today. I think in a few weeks this forum wil be much more popular.

Well I looked at the Diamond, but I'm glad I decided to hang out for the TP as it's clearly worth the wait IMO I think give it a few more months and there will be a lot more members posting here

I have also moved from diamond to pro, becuase of more memory and sd card + keyboard. But some reason, the only thing that bothers me , some roms on diamond are extremely fast..But on pro with all the custom roms I have used , for example programs scrolling and opera scrolling is still slow.
I just wish there is a bit more custom roms here,,,so that with competition , the roms will get better.

I believe(not a fact) the diamond people are holding out for the HTC touch HD which also just got the US FCC seal of approval and its due at the end of october. YAY.
I was originally going to get the HTC Touch pro but it was too expensive + there is a keyborad, which i dam not too fond of; then i saw a great deal on the diamond and plummet. So i sold off my HTC TOuch cruise for the price of the diamond, i am waiting patiently to get the HD.

copualt3 said:
I believe(not a fact) the diamond people are holding out for the HTC touch HD which also just got the US FCC seal of approval and its due at the end of october. YAY.
I was originally going to get the HTC Touch pro but it was too expensive + there is a keyborad, which i dam not too fond of; then i saw a great deal on the diamond and plummet. So i sold off my HTC TOuch cruise for the price of the diamond, i am waiting patiently to get the HD.
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I might hold out for the HD + Keyboard (if it ever comes).
Every No Keyboard Device is followed by a Keyboard one, usually. *Fingers crossed*
Dave

HTC HD or wait?

I know we get loads of these types of post every week, so hoping people dont get too fuming at this one.
My contract expires in May 09 but im able to upgrade should i want to in Feb. So do i upgrade in Feb to the HTC HD or wait untill May approaches on the hope that something better has come out by then?
No news on any upcoming HTC devices as far as i know. Heard about a G2 but i dont know how far off that device is.
Cheers guys

you should wait the palm pre and nokia n97 are coming out in about may or june from what i heard

thainess said:
you should wait the palm pre and nokia n97 are coming out in about may or june from what i heard
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If you can deal with Palm OS or Symbian.
If your phone runs well and does everything you need, why get locked in ? Wait 'til it dies or ceases to do what you need.
And spend the money on hookers and liquor , if the money is just burning a hole in your pocket

Wait till the end of February. If nothing new from HTC or MS WM6.5, then get the best device available: the HD! You can always upgrade from it later...

galaxys said:
Wait till the end of February. If nothing new from HTC or MS WM6.5, then get the best device available: the HD! You can always upgrade from it later...
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I second this
Perhaps we can see the HD touch pro!!!

The Nokia 97 looks fantastic, and its likely to come to Orange (with whom im with). Since its due April/May i may wait for it. But its so tempting to get the HD since my Touch is on its last legs now.

I'm still on an Exec (aka Universal)
I'm struglling with the decision to upgrade to a Serra, and try to but a better ROM on it, or to get a plain Touch Pro or HD from expansys on T-mobile.
Even thinking of staying with my exec!!!
There seems to be a lot of issues esp with the touch pro, and even worse with the O2 ROM
Had all this before with the Orbit 2 - the video issues put me off that one too
Any advice ?
Sam

im off to the far east in a couple of months
ill treat myself then....and drop my diamond
diamond has done what i needed.....time to move on

HTC Kaiser or SE Xperia X1

Hello,
I'm in a bit trouble
I used Xperia since December 2008. But I am not satisfied with my phone. Don't really know why, but there aren't interesting things what I could do with my phone. It's still booring.
Now I want to sell it. Before X1 appeared on market I was interested in HTC Kaiser.
Have someone used both phones? Which is better?
I thought, I sell my X1 and buy me a HTC Kaiser.

testering said:
Hello,
I'm in a bit trouble
I used Xperia since December 2008. But I am not satisfied with my phone. Don't really know why, but there aren't interesting things what I could do with my phone. It's still booring.
Now I want to sell it. Before X1 appeared on market I was interested in HTC Kaiser.
Have someone used both phones? Which is better?
I thought, I sell my X1 and buy me a HTC Kaiser.
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Better is hard to answer as will depend on each person personal tastes.
I was an owner of a Kaiser and it was a great device, Xperia just used a cuple of times from a friend and I can say I´ll keep the Kaiser.
But why not to wait a few months and get the Touch Pro 2?
Just my opinion
Good luck,

if you're looking for something on the same general level of the kaiser (since the xperia has more memory, a larger screen and better resolution), you can just get a polaris. i have one and it's a wonderful device.
if you want to upgrade.. i'd go with orb and wait for either the touch pro 2 (if you need a hardware keyboard) or a diamond 2..

Upgrade from Fuze?

My wife and I both have the Fuze with Energy ROMs. Our contract is going to be up soon and my wife is pushing for an upgrade of her phone which makes me consider it too. However I love the Fuze and am not sure if it's worth upgrading to any other model. The TP2 is nice, but to me it just seems to be more of the same with a bigger screen. Any recommendations on what to upgrade to?
Thx

Personally, I'm done with windoze mobile. I'm holding onto my fuze until several android phones hit AT&T.

I am also confused regarding the upgrade of TP. TP2 doesnt look like an upgrade to me. It only has bigger screen. Otherwise the processor and RAM and ROM are the same and it also lacks the flash. i even checked Touch HD and Touch Diamond and they also have to same specs.
I am not so technical but I have an idea in mind and would like a suggestion from the gurus here.... I think Acer's touch Neo is a nice consideration but only and only if LEO's sense can be run on it.
Plz help us to chose guys. Thanks

If you are looking to stay with Winmo, the HD2 or Omnia2 are pretty big upgrades. Don't know if you want a hardware keyboard though.

Thanks JesusFreak316 ... but HD2 is tooooo big.
Is it possible to run HTC's sense latest versions on Omnia2 or Acer Neotouch?

i want upgrade too, i was thinking about topaz. topaz vs rhodium .... 300 vs 400 Euro
Leo is very expensive for me, more then 500Euro.