Moving to universal from BA - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development

Hi Guys,
I hate to just appear to be begging for info on this board, but having answered a few questions in the BA forums in my time, I hope I'll be allowed to take the easy route just this once.
I've just upgraded my BlueAngel to a Universal and I'm looking to immediately install WM6 and start cooking roms.
I've been furiously reading everything I can find on the subject, but I've still got quite a few questions that seem to be unanswered.
- Pre-cooked Rom version
To get started, I'd just like to flash a known good WM6 ROM and find my way around.
- Laurentis 26?
- Ivan v6a?
- Helmi?
Laurentis seems to be the only one actively developed at the moment, but I'm unsure as to the stability/speed tradeoffs offered by any of the above roms.
- Kitchen
Which is the most up-to-date (AKU and scene bug fixes) kitchen? So far I've found about 5 of them.
- Known bugs
The BA had plenty of known bugs in WM5 (BT wakeup being chief amongst them). Which bugs are unsolved or ever-present in WM6 on universal? I hear dark murmurings of memory leaks in old versions of WM6, and plenty of chatter about videocalling not working fully. What's the status on all this?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Before I start, my Uni died in July just not too long after when Video Call is available on WM6 athough non Video Call WM6 exists since Dec 06 from Helmi.
So my Uni died with Helmi's WM5 Aku3.5 v1.3, one of the most stable around, not much problem using for more than half a year.
WM6 ROM I have not used, but from the active reading following from Dec 06 which was mean to prepare for upgrade, Laurantius WM6 V7 Video should be one you should try and also the improve Video Call from Indra.
As for Kitchen, I think you should use the one created by Laurentius too.
By the way, where did you get your Uni, used or brand new?
Thinking of getting 1 new, but I think it is difficult. I miss my Uni very much.

Thanks for the advice CWKJ. Laurentius' ROM/Kitchen it is.
Sorry to hear about yor uni. If it helps, I was gutted when my trusty BA finally fell apart.
My Uni came used from ebay UK. £170 including 2gb SD card. I had to keep the costs down, so a used phone was my only real option.
If you have the time then you can snipe an auction and push the price down a little more, but not a great deal (I've seen them sell for £130 without a memcard).
At retail they seem to cost > £400.

thingonaspring said:
Thanks for the advice CWKJ. Laurentius' ROM/Kitchen it is.
Sorry to hear about yor uni. If it helps, I was gutted when my trusty BA finally fell apart.
My Uni came used from ebay UK. £170 including 2gb SD card. I had to keep the costs down, so a used phone was my only real option.
If you have the time then you can snipe an auction and push the price down a little more, but not a great deal (I've seen them sell for £130 without a memcard).
At retail they seem to cost > £400.
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Hi Thingonaspring,
If you hang fire on flashing, Laurentius and I should be release a new WM6 Rom this week......... well worth waiting for.
If you take a look at the last page of the Video Call Poll thread, you'll see a list (incomplete at the moment) of what is in the Rom.
It is well worth waiting for, huge improvements in performace and stability over all previous Wm6builds for the Uni.
We should hopefully have a kitchen out with the new build by the end of the year.
Welcome to the Uni forum!
Cheers,
Beast

hi thingonaspring,
so we meet again. was a BA user for a quite a while before i broke it.
upgraded to Uni (Vodaphone variant) since last month & currently playing around with it too!
tried most of the new WM6 ROMs (except Indra's XOJ) the major problems are frequent hangs or freeze either when receiving sms or calls & memory leak. Some say that those problems are specific to ROM-Uni variant combination (O2, Dopod, T-Mo, Voda, etc.), so I won't be specific to which one is better. speed is relatively similar in all these ROM's as pagepool is set either 6 or 8 Mb. you'll be missing the large memory resource of the BA!
anyway, other than those you mentioned, there's also a Indra's XOJ, PDAViet & KDSKamal WM6 ROMs. a new one is coming from Laurentius & Beast. i think video call will be solved soon. i'm currently back to Darkforce WM5 ROM for stability reasons, hate missing calls during work!
you may check this thread too.
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@CWKJ,
a brand new "unsold left over" UNI (O2 Exec variant) retails around S$ 895 in Jakarta, might be worth giving a try since it's close by Singapore.

@rhmartin
Good to see you too. It's reassuring to see how much of the BA crowd has got behind the Uni. Have helmi_c or lt_cmdr_ivan been around lately?
@beast
Good news that a new build is on the way, I'll wait to use that one first then, may as well start from the best point possible.
Good luck with your+laurentius' efforts.

thingonaspring said:
@rhmartin
Good to see you too. It's reassuring to see how much of the BA crowd has got behind the Uni. Have helmi_c or lt_cmdr_ivan been around lately?.
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Helmi_c replaced his Uni & don't know what new device he owns, last post I saw from him is on PPCGeeks forum.
Not so many active UNI ROM developer around now, thanks to the time, effort & talent of Laurentius, Beast, Indra, KDSKamal, PDAViet & Darkforce. Through them we get ROM refresh/updates, unfortunately most of the core are based on midget_1990's old WM6 build. We hope someone can port a newer WM6 build from other devices (hopefully a newer VGA & 3G device).
Maybe you can help!

Well, I've put laurentius v7 on the thing and it's running nicely.
I've also nabbed a copy of the latest Athena ROM to see what's in there. Perhaps some of it can be useful.
On a sadder note, I noticed the news about tofclock today. :-(

thingonaspring said:
Well, I've put laurentius v7 on the thing and it's running nicely.
I've also nabbed a copy of the latest Athena ROM to see what's in there. Perhaps some of it can be useful.
On a sadder note, I noticed the news about tofclock today. :-(
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Hi,
I'm an ex BA user too, how I miss that memory and overclocking ability (still have her fully functional though)
Leo's V7 is a good choice, hopefully we'll have the new one out soon enough.
Very sad news about TofClock, everyone was shocked, such a great guy, always happy to help, will be sadly missed by us all.
The Athena isn't much use, it's ATI based, but you could still port some stuff if you wanted.
Cheers,
Beast

rhmartin said:
@CWKJ,
a brand new "unsold left over" UNI (O2 Exec variant) retails around S$ 895 in Jakarta, might be worth giving a try since it's close by Singapore.
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Thanks for your info.
You mean S$895 = SGD895 and new?
rhmartin said:
you'll be missing the large memory resource of the BA!
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Miss the large resource, come to O2 XDA Flame, it has 2GB Flash and 128MB Ram.

thingonaspring said:
Have helmi_c or lt_cmdr_ivan been around lately?
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The last Uni Rom Release by Helmi was Uni WM6 v1.1 and its kitchen (one of the earlier ones) and I think he broke the Uni and he is I think in the forum of another device (I cannot remember), make a search for him and you will know which device forum he frequent.
Ivan also declared he has release the last Uni WM6 ROM.
The active person here is Leo & Beast.

CWKJ said:
Thanks for your info.
You mean S$895 = SGD895 and new?
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Yes my friend, SGD895 or IDR 5.500.000,- to be exact. Brand new O2 Exec package complete with box, adapter, cd, headset, & 1 year warranty from O2. That particular store in Roxy Mas (can't remember the name) had 3 units on stock early July (last month).
It was a bargain considering that latest branded 3G Smartphones are more or less priced the same. The stores are currently promoting HTC Athena & Nokia E90 (~IDR 14.000.000,-) & getting rid of older HTC PPC's. I didn't took note of the WM5 shipped ROM build since I'm "really green" on Uni that time.
I wish I could help more but I seldom visit Roxy & right now busy at work, hope you have friends or relatives in Jakarta that could scout for it!

hi there, still using my xda 2s( BA variant) for its ram( o gawd, the best machine ever created) but exec is way too cool to be not used, if only exec ram is also as big as ba....perfect machine
got mine 2nd hand too, miracle part, flawless condition.
i believe wm5 and 6 almost the same in every aspect, maybe some icon tweak but while waiting for beast 0898, why not try the variant of wm5 rom??
my favourite for now will be kdskamal rom.stable and way better then the original o2 rom.
@rhmartin
wow e90 in indo so expensive yah ^^; in singapore you can get it for just SGD 1328 (x6000) not to mention that price is the launching price.
jakarta mana btw ni man

@beast - Athena not much use
Good point about the ATI chip - what did midget port from originally?

genocide said:
@rhmartin
wow e90 in indo so expensive yah ^^; in singapore you can get it for just SGD 1328 (x6000) not to mention that price is the launching price.
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That was the launching & booking price!
jakarta mana btw ni man
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you mean Roxy Mas? It's like the elex stores Sim Lim or Fu Nan in Singapore, you ask for the cell phone/pda center in Jakarta & people would lead you there!

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WM6 for 750 will launch next week ?

suspectly WM 6 will laungh on Microsoft Australia’s TechEd
source : http://www.istartedsomething.com/
i hope it will
http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/8800/treo-750-windows-mobile-6-update-next-week/
I've seen info about it on 5 portals. Could be sooo great! I simply can't wait!
I won't upgrade with AT&T for now - I wait for voda/row!
why Voda Unbranded better no Junk at all no ATT or Voda Junk just pure
Palm WM6 + plus it give it unlocked look with absence of Brand logos
I hope it's officially released for download next week also! But, what I really hope for is that the ROM has been further refined since they cooked up the 'prerelease' version, however long ago that was.
I agree. I hope that they made changes to the ROM since the release that's been leaked to us on here.
Guys , who sale this one ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Palm-Treo-750...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Does it has AT&T WM6 ,or....?
Seller doesnt mentioned it of course
khak said:
Guys , who sale this one ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Palm-Treo-750...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Does it has AT&T WM6 ,or....?
Seller doesnt mentioned it of course
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Obviously someone hoping that they can make a quick buck off of someone who doesn't know any better because this phone has got the WM6 installed on it. It's a leaked copy of it.
Considering that only the ATT copy of it has been leaked on xda-developers.com, I would think that this person got it from here. So, it's the same ROM that you've seen floating around here.
I read somwhere that listings on eBay for Treo 750 with WM6 loaded were being taken down by eBay due to Plam complaints (the same way the ROM was taken from here).

Booooooooooooooringggggg :( :( :(

Hey...
The scene here is getting pretty glum here, aint it? How many of you all think so or otherwise?!
Same old bl00dy roms with only version "number" changes, no real upgrades, same old same old same old [email protected]
I'm getting real bored with Uni, and theres no real device upgrade as well to it...and looks like MS has taken a complete time out in updating their OS...nothings changed since years if you look at it....ppc2003, wm5, wm6....all minor upgrades here and there, nothing break through types....
Everyday i check the forums atleast twice, and the activity is slowly dying too....nothing major, guess its the end of the road for the Uni.....sighhh...
San
The cookers add apps which M$ forgot! If yer not satisfied get an Iphone. Have some respect for da cookers!
hendrixus said:
The cookers add apps which M$ forgot! If yer not satisfied get an Iphone. Have some respect for da cookers!
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oh! i didnt mean to offend the cookers in any way!
Heres the angle im coming from....
My frustrations are mainly from MS :-/
They hardly seem to be making any changes to the OS. When i talk about new rom version numbers, i mean MS releasing updates with no changes....im not refering to rom cookers with new versions.
Also, the other angle is with googles new announcement, the android....i dont want google taking over because MS is being lazy and doing nothing but sitting on their asses now
cheers,
And i definitely appreciate all rom cookers efforts, as a matter of fact, they're the only ones keeping the platform alive...
San
Dude, if are bored with ROMs, do something else on your universal. Get some new apps to play with. Do away with your boredom.
PS: I'm selling my atom life and again getting a new universal next week(having some hardware problems with my atom life)
kdskamal said:
PS: I'm selling my atom life and again getting a new universal next week(having some hardware problems with my atom life)
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Haha, nothing like Universal. No wonder I have 2 of them!
Don't like WinMo, you can try Linux instead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251584
If you are bored, then I recommend you try some custom apps with your Uni to spruce things up a bit:
http://lakeridgesoftware.com/
Additionally, look at the difference between 2003SE, WM5 and WM6 - Microsoft has been doing alot to improve WinMo - and with the 'threat' of the iPhone and Android (Read: the gPhone) WM7 should be awesome!!
TehPenguin said:
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If you are bored, then I recommend you try some custom apps with your Uni to spruce things up a bit:
http://lakeridgesoftware.com/
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That's what I call boring. Slowing down your PPC
Additionally, look at the difference between 2003SE, WM5 and WM6 - Microsoft has been doing alot to improve WinMo - and with the 'threat' of the iPhone and Android (Read: the gPhone) WM7 should be awesome!!
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I Strongly disagree. M$ did gave us:
1. persistent memory
2. battery/memorymanagement, still I like to see standard 128MB RAM at least!
3. cosmetic improvements
4. slowing down the performance compared with WM2003SE
Nothing more, nothing less since WM5
The cookers try to give us more then M$ ev er did. They put in what M$ didn't!
King of Rapture™ said:
Haha, nothing like Universal. No wonder I have 2 of them!
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Indeed.. I would have kept atom life though if quanta would have done the homework properly. Its quite a nice device and having 1GB internal memory is a BIG asset. The processor is able to play movies which are encoded at very bit rates and high resolutions so smoothly that will surely make one wonder about the capabilities of a pocket pc phone
kdskamal said:
Indeed..
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Hi KDSKamal,
Make sure that you buy G3 Universal, so that you can have about 20MB of Flash Disk available on kdskamal's beautiful ROM!
Cheers,
KOR!
The battery connector of the Atom Life turned out to be flimsy on mine. It is on the verge of getting unusable now. My friend also has the same device and his too is little weak. The new Atom Life don't seem to suffer from this problem(since it has been rectified). Also, not all had this problem. So, the one which you buy may or may not suffer from this problem. Also, the power button sometimes works and sometimes, it doesnt.
Since the person from which I bought it is giving my money back, I'm thinking to get a brand new universal(he is a local seller in my area(nothing special))
@KOR: getting a G3 universal is tough because G3 ones only rolled out in the market when the device was new in the market. Now, its almost ~2y since it has been in this market. So, I surmise only G4s are avaliable
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@KOR: getting a G3 universal is tough because G3 ones only rolled out in the market when the device was new in the market. Now, its almost ~2y since it has been in this market. So, I surmise only G4s are available
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Hi KDSKamal,
I bought my both Universals this year at eBay. The Xda Exec was bought in February of this year and the Jasjar was bought in July of this year.
These were both brand new devices with one year warranty. When I bought them, I didn't know what G3 or G4 was, but did fell in love with Universal!
Best regards,
KOR!

Which is the best, most stable ROM?

So Guys and Gals,
Which ROM is the best to use?
I'm resurrecting my Universal (after using a HTC TyTN II (Kaiser) with work and direct push)... BTW the ROM on the 18th November 2007 shipped product is 5.2.1620 (build 18125.0.4.2).
Which is the most stable and which will closely resemble the ROM I used on the HTC TyTN II (Kaiser)?
The difference between using this and the universal was scary, size aside, the performance is slick the HTC interface is great to use and the unit was shipped with everything you need, good quality case, extra stylus, 2 USB cables, software for backup (sprite), business card snapper, word commander, copilot for GPS etc.
OK so it's GPS and HSDPA in the box, but that aside the package is just soo much better than the crap QTEK/IMATE/O2 offered.
I think it might be Windows mobile 6 time for most as this looks worth a closer look... Anyway, so what's the best rom to use on the universal? I reckon it's worth another go if I can get the software sorted.
Thanks in advance for your advice...
At the risk of sounding thoughtless, I'll recommend that you take back your question as it's been asked hundreds of times. Everyone will have their own favorite, and they will all be different. Best advice would be to read the individual threads pertaining to each rom and see what people are saying and just try a few out.
Good luck and happy hunting.
Go through the forums, try whatever ROM you feel has received good enough feedback! Beasty and Leo released their WM6 Business Edition and the Full Flavour is expected soon. Mo3ulla's WM6 is pretty neat too, no extras at all! Lt Cdr Ivan, Jason and Thingonaspring also have ROMs! Happy browsing!
Hi there,
Our Vietnamese cousins cook one of the best ROMs too. Check out ROMs cooked by N. N. Coung and PDAViet. Here is a link to one of them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345256
KOR!
I knew i missed out some names i've used nncuong's ROM for quite some time!! nice stuff!
i use jwright's rom.
it's the best for me as of this moment
another vote for jwright's newest rom, even though I haven't tried the new release from beasty&leo, with the mms fix it will be the best imho.
now if only we could find a way to enable videocall

Which new pocket PC should I buy ? (Help, please)

I currently own an O2 XDA IIi (HTC Alpine), I am quite satisfied with it but it has gotten a bit old, there is no OS upgrade, so I cannot enjoy many of the new apps which are made exclusively for WM5.0/6.0/6.1. I am wondering which device to buy. I thought about :
- getting an HTC Advantage
- getting an HTC Kaiser
- getting O2 XDA Flame (but WM 5.0!!!!)
- waiting for E-ten V900 or SE Xperia X1
I use my PPC as a phone (about 1-2 calls a day, 2-3 SMS a day), to play MP3 (about 1-2 hours a day), to play some games especially using FPSECE PSX emulator. I also use it as a "mini-PC".
The Advantage seems to be extremely powerful but I am afraid itmight be too big for me (I want to know how it compares to an XDAIIi with 2400 mAh battery thus making it thicker; I also want to know how the Kaiser compares to Nokia 6600 ).
HTC Kaiser also appears to be a good choice but I am not sure it will be powerful enough for me, especially with the driver problem.
I also thought of waiting for E-ten V900 or SE Xperia X1 (especially the latter), but I want a new PPC before July, and I am not sure when these devices will be released.
Another question : what about upgrading to Windows Mobile 7.0 in the future? Will it be possible ? Or is the question thoroughly irrelevant as the OS is still under development ?
Can you help choose my future device ? Thanks
have you looked into this? I see it on your list but is it at the top?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?lc=en&cc=us
mchapman007 said:
have you looked into this? I see it on your list but is it at the top?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?lc=en&cc=us
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The problem is that I want a PPC before July, but the device is quite impressive !
seether said:
The problem is that I want a PPC before July, but the device is quite impressive !
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I hear what your saying. I've been getting very anxious to upgrade my current ppc and the X1 is what I want. I told my wife, if I upgrade to the Tilt now, she will inherit it when the X1 comes out. She also would also inherit my 8525 if I got the Tilt now. apparently I'm out of my gaourd.... Needless to say, thats a ton of money just to get what I want.
Good luck with your descision....
ROLL UP FOR THE MYSTERY TOUR - wat the **** is that -
the fone looks ace - but that advert is everything that is wrong with america!
before i got my advantage [im getting another one soon...] i went on pdadb, and got the measurements. then i drew the outlines on some paper, and compared them to my hermes. the best thing was, it was thinner, and really not that much bigger...
kinda made the final decision about getting it
Rory
last info i got on the release of x1 was september
Jonjamesm said:
ROLL UP FOR THE MYSTERY TOUR - wat the **** is that -
the fone looks ace - but that advert is everything that is wrong with america!
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Nice. I thought Sony Ericsson was a Japanese company. Or they make the product and America promotes it?
Go here and pick you own region and give us your thoughts then.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx
rorydaredkign said:
before i got my advantage [im getting another one soon...] i went on pdadb, and got the measurements. then i drew the outlines on some paper, and compared them to my hermes. the best thing was, it was thinner, and really not that much bigger...
kinda made the final decision about getting it
Rory
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So, does it fit in your pocket ? (My XDA IIi fits but it's a bit thick ) Is the performance really good ? (much better than that of Kaiser, for instance ?)
it's pretty much the same hardware as kaiser so it all comes down to if
sonyE is also too cheap to pay qualcomm for their driver
Well, depends wht pocket. School trousers... no. skinny jeans obviously not. tracksuit bottoms, yep. Blazer pocket definitely.
So it depends on where you want it lol.
Its about double the speed of any of my other devices. But i guess thats because the other two both lacked something, the tytn lacked the ram, and my touch lacks the processor.
The advantage has it all. which is why im getting another one.
Rory
Definitely NOT xda Stealth
hmm
my next toy will def be the X1 from sony just look awsome . as far as the advantage man thats not much money for a phone might as well buy a laptop or a EEE PC from asus they rock. love my EEE

Best Upgrade ??

Currently using Artemis and have done for a while, Re-Flashed loads with new available software, can't fault it at all. Now, Here goes, Looked at xperia and the new O2 Serra, Like them both but was just wondering if there are more better or faultless handsets to upgrade to. With O2 at present and can upgrade any time, Cheers,D
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Currently using Artemis and have done for a while, Re-Flashed loads with new available software, can't fault it at all. Now, Here goes, Looked at xperia and the new O2 Serra, Like them both but was just wondering if there are more better or faultless handsets to upgrade to. With O2 at present and can upgrade any time, Cheers,D
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The Blackstone AKA Touch HD is also a viable option.
A friend of mine bought his from Mobile.co.uk (There's a thead in the Blackstone forum on Mobile.co.uk) on O2, got to keep his number etc.
Ta
Dave
Cheers Dave, Is The Blackstone, AKA Touch HD got the slide out qwerty, Think that would suit me better after pulling out the stylus from my artemis all those times, that's the only drawback with the texting i think. Had a look at a few handsets and was goin to go with what all you guys that are qualified had to say about the best on the market at the moment.
Cheers,D
I´ll wait a little bit
A few days ago has been leaked the HTC roadmap 09 and very very nice devices are coming!
my suggestion is waiting for WM7 to come out.

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