Booooooooooooooringggggg :( :( :( - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development

Hey...
The scene here is getting pretty glum here, aint it? How many of you all think so or otherwise?!
Same old bl00dy roms with only version "number" changes, no real upgrades, same old same old same old [email protected]
I'm getting real bored with Uni, and theres no real device upgrade as well to it...and looks like MS has taken a complete time out in updating their OS...nothings changed since years if you look at it....ppc2003, wm5, wm6....all minor upgrades here and there, nothing break through types....
Everyday i check the forums atleast twice, and the activity is slowly dying too....nothing major, guess its the end of the road for the Uni.....sighhh...
San

The cookers add apps which M$ forgot! If yer not satisfied get an Iphone. Have some respect for da cookers!

hendrixus said:
The cookers add apps which M$ forgot! If yer not satisfied get an Iphone. Have some respect for da cookers!
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oh! i didnt mean to offend the cookers in any way!
Heres the angle im coming from....
My frustrations are mainly from MS :-/
They hardly seem to be making any changes to the OS. When i talk about new rom version numbers, i mean MS releasing updates with no changes....im not refering to rom cookers with new versions.
Also, the other angle is with googles new announcement, the android....i dont want google taking over because MS is being lazy and doing nothing but sitting on their asses now
cheers,
And i definitely appreciate all rom cookers efforts, as a matter of fact, they're the only ones keeping the platform alive...
San

Dude, if are bored with ROMs, do something else on your universal. Get some new apps to play with. Do away with your boredom.
PS: I'm selling my atom life and again getting a new universal next week(having some hardware problems with my atom life)

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PS: I'm selling my atom life and again getting a new universal next week(having some hardware problems with my atom life)
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Haha, nothing like Universal. No wonder I have 2 of them!

Don't like WinMo, you can try Linux instead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251584
If you are bored, then I recommend you try some custom apps with your Uni to spruce things up a bit:
http://lakeridgesoftware.com/
Additionally, look at the difference between 2003SE, WM5 and WM6 - Microsoft has been doing alot to improve WinMo - and with the 'threat' of the iPhone and Android (Read: the gPhone) WM7 should be awesome!!

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If you are bored, then I recommend you try some custom apps with your Uni to spruce things up a bit:
http://lakeridgesoftware.com/
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That's what I call boring. Slowing down your PPC
Additionally, look at the difference between 2003SE, WM5 and WM6 - Microsoft has been doing alot to improve WinMo - and with the 'threat' of the iPhone and Android (Read: the gPhone) WM7 should be awesome!!
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I Strongly disagree. M$ did gave us:
1. persistent memory
2. battery/memorymanagement, still I like to see standard 128MB RAM at least!
3. cosmetic improvements
4. slowing down the performance compared with WM2003SE
Nothing more, nothing less since WM5
The cookers try to give us more then M$ ev er did. They put in what M$ didn't!

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Haha, nothing like Universal. No wonder I have 2 of them!
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Indeed.. I would have kept atom life though if quanta would have done the homework properly. Its quite a nice device and having 1GB internal memory is a BIG asset. The processor is able to play movies which are encoded at very bit rates and high resolutions so smoothly that will surely make one wonder about the capabilities of a pocket pc phone

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Hi KDSKamal,
Make sure that you buy G3 Universal, so that you can have about 20MB of Flash Disk available on kdskamal's beautiful ROM!
Cheers,
KOR!

The battery connector of the Atom Life turned out to be flimsy on mine. It is on the verge of getting unusable now. My friend also has the same device and his too is little weak. The new Atom Life don't seem to suffer from this problem(since it has been rectified). Also, not all had this problem. So, the one which you buy may or may not suffer from this problem. Also, the power button sometimes works and sometimes, it doesnt.
Since the person from which I bought it is giving my money back, I'm thinking to get a brand new universal(he is a local seller in my area(nothing special))
@KOR: getting a G3 universal is tough because G3 ones only rolled out in the market when the device was new in the market. Now, its almost ~2y since it has been in this market. So, I surmise only G4s are avaliable

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@KOR: getting a G3 universal is tough because G3 ones only rolled out in the market when the device was new in the market. Now, its almost ~2y since it has been in this market. So, I surmise only G4s are available
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Hi KDSKamal,
I bought my both Universals this year at eBay. The Xda Exec was bought in February of this year and the Jasjar was bought in July of this year.
These were both brand new devices with one year warranty. When I bought them, I didn't know what G3 or G4 was, but did fell in love with Universal!
Best regards,
KOR!

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Moving to universal from BA

Hi Guys,
I hate to just appear to be begging for info on this board, but having answered a few questions in the BA forums in my time, I hope I'll be allowed to take the easy route just this once.
I've just upgraded my BlueAngel to a Universal and I'm looking to immediately install WM6 and start cooking roms.
I've been furiously reading everything I can find on the subject, but I've still got quite a few questions that seem to be unanswered.
- Pre-cooked Rom version
To get started, I'd just like to flash a known good WM6 ROM and find my way around.
- Laurentis 26?
- Ivan v6a?
- Helmi?
Laurentis seems to be the only one actively developed at the moment, but I'm unsure as to the stability/speed tradeoffs offered by any of the above roms.
- Kitchen
Which is the most up-to-date (AKU and scene bug fixes) kitchen? So far I've found about 5 of them.
- Known bugs
The BA had plenty of known bugs in WM5 (BT wakeup being chief amongst them). Which bugs are unsolved or ever-present in WM6 on universal? I hear dark murmurings of memory leaks in old versions of WM6, and plenty of chatter about videocalling not working fully. What's the status on all this?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Before I start, my Uni died in July just not too long after when Video Call is available on WM6 athough non Video Call WM6 exists since Dec 06 from Helmi.
So my Uni died with Helmi's WM5 Aku3.5 v1.3, one of the most stable around, not much problem using for more than half a year.
WM6 ROM I have not used, but from the active reading following from Dec 06 which was mean to prepare for upgrade, Laurantius WM6 V7 Video should be one you should try and also the improve Video Call from Indra.
As for Kitchen, I think you should use the one created by Laurentius too.
By the way, where did you get your Uni, used or brand new?
Thinking of getting 1 new, but I think it is difficult. I miss my Uni very much.
Thanks for the advice CWKJ. Laurentius' ROM/Kitchen it is.
Sorry to hear about yor uni. If it helps, I was gutted when my trusty BA finally fell apart.
My Uni came used from ebay UK. £170 including 2gb SD card. I had to keep the costs down, so a used phone was my only real option.
If you have the time then you can snipe an auction and push the price down a little more, but not a great deal (I've seen them sell for £130 without a memcard).
At retail they seem to cost > £400.
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Thanks for the advice CWKJ. Laurentius' ROM/Kitchen it is.
Sorry to hear about yor uni. If it helps, I was gutted when my trusty BA finally fell apart.
My Uni came used from ebay UK. £170 including 2gb SD card. I had to keep the costs down, so a used phone was my only real option.
If you have the time then you can snipe an auction and push the price down a little more, but not a great deal (I've seen them sell for £130 without a memcard).
At retail they seem to cost > £400.
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Hi Thingonaspring,
If you hang fire on flashing, Laurentius and I should be release a new WM6 Rom this week......... well worth waiting for.
If you take a look at the last page of the Video Call Poll thread, you'll see a list (incomplete at the moment) of what is in the Rom.
It is well worth waiting for, huge improvements in performace and stability over all previous Wm6builds for the Uni.
We should hopefully have a kitchen out with the new build by the end of the year.
Welcome to the Uni forum!
Cheers,
Beast
hi thingonaspring,
so we meet again. was a BA user for a quite a while before i broke it.
upgraded to Uni (Vodaphone variant) since last month & currently playing around with it too!
tried most of the new WM6 ROMs (except Indra's XOJ) the major problems are frequent hangs or freeze either when receiving sms or calls & memory leak. Some say that those problems are specific to ROM-Uni variant combination (O2, Dopod, T-Mo, Voda, etc.), so I won't be specific to which one is better. speed is relatively similar in all these ROM's as pagepool is set either 6 or 8 Mb. you'll be missing the large memory resource of the BA!
anyway, other than those you mentioned, there's also a Indra's XOJ, PDAViet & KDSKamal WM6 ROMs. a new one is coming from Laurentius & Beast. i think video call will be solved soon. i'm currently back to Darkforce WM5 ROM for stability reasons, hate missing calls during work!
you may check this thread too.
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@CWKJ,
a brand new "unsold left over" UNI (O2 Exec variant) retails around S$ 895 in Jakarta, might be worth giving a try since it's close by Singapore.
@rhmartin
Good to see you too. It's reassuring to see how much of the BA crowd has got behind the Uni. Have helmi_c or lt_cmdr_ivan been around lately?
@beast
Good news that a new build is on the way, I'll wait to use that one first then, may as well start from the best point possible.
Good luck with your+laurentius' efforts.
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@rhmartin
Good to see you too. It's reassuring to see how much of the BA crowd has got behind the Uni. Have helmi_c or lt_cmdr_ivan been around lately?.
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Helmi_c replaced his Uni & don't know what new device he owns, last post I saw from him is on PPCGeeks forum.
Not so many active UNI ROM developer around now, thanks to the time, effort & talent of Laurentius, Beast, Indra, KDSKamal, PDAViet & Darkforce. Through them we get ROM refresh/updates, unfortunately most of the core are based on midget_1990's old WM6 build. We hope someone can port a newer WM6 build from other devices (hopefully a newer VGA & 3G device).
Maybe you can help!
Well, I've put laurentius v7 on the thing and it's running nicely.
I've also nabbed a copy of the latest Athena ROM to see what's in there. Perhaps some of it can be useful.
On a sadder note, I noticed the news about tofclock today. :-(
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Well, I've put laurentius v7 on the thing and it's running nicely.
I've also nabbed a copy of the latest Athena ROM to see what's in there. Perhaps some of it can be useful.
On a sadder note, I noticed the news about tofclock today. :-(
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Hi,
I'm an ex BA user too, how I miss that memory and overclocking ability (still have her fully functional though)
Leo's V7 is a good choice, hopefully we'll have the new one out soon enough.
Very sad news about TofClock, everyone was shocked, such a great guy, always happy to help, will be sadly missed by us all.
The Athena isn't much use, it's ATI based, but you could still port some stuff if you wanted.
Cheers,
Beast
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@CWKJ,
a brand new "unsold left over" UNI (O2 Exec variant) retails around S$ 895 in Jakarta, might be worth giving a try since it's close by Singapore.
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Thanks for your info.
You mean S$895 = SGD895 and new?
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you'll be missing the large memory resource of the BA!
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Miss the large resource, come to O2 XDA Flame, it has 2GB Flash and 128MB Ram.
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Have helmi_c or lt_cmdr_ivan been around lately?
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The last Uni Rom Release by Helmi was Uni WM6 v1.1 and its kitchen (one of the earlier ones) and I think he broke the Uni and he is I think in the forum of another device (I cannot remember), make a search for him and you will know which device forum he frequent.
Ivan also declared he has release the last Uni WM6 ROM.
The active person here is Leo & Beast.
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Thanks for your info.
You mean S$895 = SGD895 and new?
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Yes my friend, SGD895 or IDR 5.500.000,- to be exact. Brand new O2 Exec package complete with box, adapter, cd, headset, & 1 year warranty from O2. That particular store in Roxy Mas (can't remember the name) had 3 units on stock early July (last month).
It was a bargain considering that latest branded 3G Smartphones are more or less priced the same. The stores are currently promoting HTC Athena & Nokia E90 (~IDR 14.000.000,-) & getting rid of older HTC PPC's. I didn't took note of the WM5 shipped ROM build since I'm "really green" on Uni that time.
I wish I could help more but I seldom visit Roxy & right now busy at work, hope you have friends or relatives in Jakarta that could scout for it!
hi there, still using my xda 2s( BA variant) for its ram( o gawd, the best machine ever created) but exec is way too cool to be not used, if only exec ram is also as big as ba....perfect machine
got mine 2nd hand too, miracle part, flawless condition.
i believe wm5 and 6 almost the same in every aspect, maybe some icon tweak but while waiting for beast 0898, why not try the variant of wm5 rom??
my favourite for now will be kdskamal rom.stable and way better then the original o2 rom.
@rhmartin
wow e90 in indo so expensive yah ^^; in singapore you can get it for just SGD 1328 (x6000) not to mention that price is the launching price.
jakarta mana btw ni man
@beast - Athena not much use
Good point about the ATI chip - what did midget port from originally?
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@rhmartin
wow e90 in indo so expensive yah ^^; in singapore you can get it for just SGD 1328 (x6000) not to mention that price is the launching price.
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That was the launching & booking price!
jakarta mana btw ni man
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you mean Roxy Mas? It's like the elex stores Sim Lim or Fu Nan in Singapore, you ask for the cell phone/pda center in Jakarta & people would lead you there!

Which new pocket PC should I buy ? (Help, please)

I currently own an O2 XDA IIi (HTC Alpine), I am quite satisfied with it but it has gotten a bit old, there is no OS upgrade, so I cannot enjoy many of the new apps which are made exclusively for WM5.0/6.0/6.1. I am wondering which device to buy. I thought about :
- getting an HTC Advantage
- getting an HTC Kaiser
- getting O2 XDA Flame (but WM 5.0!!!!)
- waiting for E-ten V900 or SE Xperia X1
I use my PPC as a phone (about 1-2 calls a day, 2-3 SMS a day), to play MP3 (about 1-2 hours a day), to play some games especially using FPSECE PSX emulator. I also use it as a "mini-PC".
The Advantage seems to be extremely powerful but I am afraid itmight be too big for me (I want to know how it compares to an XDAIIi with 2400 mAh battery thus making it thicker; I also want to know how the Kaiser compares to Nokia 6600 ).
HTC Kaiser also appears to be a good choice but I am not sure it will be powerful enough for me, especially with the driver problem.
I also thought of waiting for E-ten V900 or SE Xperia X1 (especially the latter), but I want a new PPC before July, and I am not sure when these devices will be released.
Another question : what about upgrading to Windows Mobile 7.0 in the future? Will it be possible ? Or is the question thoroughly irrelevant as the OS is still under development ?
Can you help choose my future device ? Thanks
have you looked into this? I see it on your list but is it at the top?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?lc=en&cc=us
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have you looked into this? I see it on your list but is it at the top?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?lc=en&cc=us
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The problem is that I want a PPC before July, but the device is quite impressive !
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The problem is that I want a PPC before July, but the device is quite impressive !
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I hear what your saying. I've been getting very anxious to upgrade my current ppc and the X1 is what I want. I told my wife, if I upgrade to the Tilt now, she will inherit it when the X1 comes out. She also would also inherit my 8525 if I got the Tilt now. apparently I'm out of my gaourd.... Needless to say, thats a ton of money just to get what I want.
Good luck with your descision....
ROLL UP FOR THE MYSTERY TOUR - wat the **** is that -
the fone looks ace - but that advert is everything that is wrong with america!
before i got my advantage [im getting another one soon...] i went on pdadb, and got the measurements. then i drew the outlines on some paper, and compared them to my hermes. the best thing was, it was thinner, and really not that much bigger...
kinda made the final decision about getting it
Rory
last info i got on the release of x1 was september
Jonjamesm said:
ROLL UP FOR THE MYSTERY TOUR - wat the **** is that -
the fone looks ace - but that advert is everything that is wrong with america!
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Nice. I thought Sony Ericsson was a Japanese company. Or they make the product and America promotes it?
Go here and pick you own region and give us your thoughts then.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx
rorydaredkign said:
before i got my advantage [im getting another one soon...] i went on pdadb, and got the measurements. then i drew the outlines on some paper, and compared them to my hermes. the best thing was, it was thinner, and really not that much bigger...
kinda made the final decision about getting it
Rory
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So, does it fit in your pocket ? (My XDA IIi fits but it's a bit thick ) Is the performance really good ? (much better than that of Kaiser, for instance ?)
it's pretty much the same hardware as kaiser so it all comes down to if
sonyE is also too cheap to pay qualcomm for their driver
Well, depends wht pocket. School trousers... no. skinny jeans obviously not. tracksuit bottoms, yep. Blazer pocket definitely.
So it depends on where you want it lol.
Its about double the speed of any of my other devices. But i guess thats because the other two both lacked something, the tytn lacked the ram, and my touch lacks the processor.
The advantage has it all. which is why im getting another one.
Rory
Definitely NOT xda Stealth
hmm
my next toy will def be the X1 from sony just look awsome . as far as the advantage man thats not much money for a phone might as well buy a laptop or a EEE PC from asus they rock. love my EEE

Chainfire @ MWC2009, Barcelona

Typing this up really quickly as im waiting for lunch, will expand later.
I got lots of pics and vids already, which i may post later if there is any interest.
Android stuff seems to be decidedly absent so far.
@Microsoft: You all probably already heard about WM 6.5, saw some demos live, looks like a decent UI improvement, but its still no iPhone. Also saw some new devices here, including Acer stuff.
@nVidia: I did get a chance to play with a Tegra device, which was really snappy and smooth, but also the size of a small house. Very promising. They did have two normal Tegra devices on display, with names I had seldom heard before, but behind glass.
@HTC: Played with the Touch Diamond 2 a bit. I dont like the new form factor much. It wastes space at the bottom, and introduces a zoom slider that I couldnt get to work in either IE or Opera. They did do some more HTC integration, new startmenu, better contacts list etc. The Touch Max is just an HD with WiMAX.
@Qualcomm: They demod snapdragon, but it didnt seem as impressive as Tegra. Also, I was not allowed to touch the device. The now infamous Toshiba was also there, but again, no touching. BTW Nokia just made a deal with these guys, so abandon ship!
@LG: I was surprised to learn they are switching to WM as primary OS. They had some nice Omnia-like devices though, and the wristwatchphone was also fun.
@Samsung: Biggest surprise here, it seems the OmniaHD is running Symbian! No idea yet if there will also be a WM version.
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The open eco system keynote with Microsoft, Nokia and AT&T CEOS was interesting. AT&T guys was the best, Ballmer a close second with his energetic ways and content, while the Nokia guy almost killed everybody due to excess boredom. The keynote itself was mostly a call for more working together and being generally more open with things, which they all agreed was necessary.
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BTW, I dont know who CBOSS are or what they do, but they do employ an army of hot models!
More later, lunch is here, and I want to find myself a Palm Pre to play with!
ok, just tell me which device to get and that's it. so many out there i can't decide what i want.
JUST TELL ME! AHHH!
Omnia HD!!
HTC's hardware seems to be stuck in 2007 compared to Samsung and LG, heck even Sony Ericsson.
Kinda worrying how ppl are moving towards Symbian, but can't blame them windows mobile really is starting to show its age and no amount of skinning will disguise the fact that it needs a major revamp.
Okay, I was seriously thinking of abandoning the HTC ship for the nokia N97, so I could keep my tilt screen, but now? So if it is not too much trouble, my contract is up in April, could you please corner the AT$T guys and ask them when my new Touch Pro II ( Fuze II ? ) will be available on AT$T? Thanks
Some more stuff... First, somebody at HTC really needs to be fired for putting XT9 on the TP enabled when keyboard is extended. Annoying like hell, finally its off
Found some very nice Android devices that should be out by Q2. The company didnt decide on the brand name yet.
Unfortunately you cant play with the Palm Pre unless you are press.
@Gigabyte (GSmart): some very nice upcoming WM devices. Some were running 6.5 and I played with that. I think somebody made a mistake there!
@iMate: They drowned some of their WM phones. Waterproof!
can you attempt to get the new WM6.5 build ?
Chainfire said:
Some more stuff... First, somebody at HTC really needs to be fired for putting XT9 on the TP enabled when keyboard is extended. Annoying like hell, finally its off
Found some very nice Android devices that should be out by Q2. The company didnt decide on the brand name yet.
Unfortunately you cant play with the Palm Pre unless you are press.
@Gigabyte (GSmart): some very nice upcoming WM devices. Some were running 6.5 and I played with that. I think somebody made a mistake there!
@iMate: They drowned some of their WM phones. Waterproof!
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Any more info on these very nice Android phones?
LOL chainfire,
so you're off to palm some hot models...
xplode said:
can you attempt to get the new WM6.5 build ?
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Just like the old days when we were trying to get our hands on WM5....
ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP!!!!!!! (chanting)
Come on Chain, you can do it!
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Just like the old days when we were trying to get our hands on WM5....
ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP!!!!!!! (chanting)
Come on Chain, you can do it!
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lol let's hope
mbarvian said:
lol let's hope
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Lol and then he gets caught and gets on Engadget or something.
But you'll be our hero.
well he just needs some time alone with one device (10 minutes will do) and an sd card (or any variant of it - mini, micro)
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@Qualcomm: They demod snapdragon, but it didnt seem as impressive as Tegra. Also, I was not allowed to touch the device. The now infamous Toshiba was also there, but again, no touching.
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At Toshiba's booth, you can freely play with the TG01. Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3339526 for more info & a lot of pics & videos (more to come!!!)
Hey Werner!
You're here? Haven't gotten round to Toshiba's booth yet, but if you're interested, PM me your phone number (plus international code bla bla) and we can meet up, schedules allowing... There will be beer!
No ROM dumps people It's a small booth, can't make it happen.
About those Android phones we saw (and I must stress here, I haven't even seen half of all the exhibits yet because of appointments and speeches etc), first, they looked very nice. One of the sexiest phone designs I've seen in a while, but then it was made by a 'design company'. They originally focused on Linux but switched to Android when it was released. According to them, they are using the default Android 'shell' - which is a shame, because their Linux phone had one of the awesomest shells I've seen in a while. I don't think they really understood me correctly, but it seemed they were saying that for these phones you can get apps to run as root without jailbreaking by getting it certified by them (or something.. wasn't really clear).
There were also some Androids coming out under the General Mobile label, but not necessarily those I mentioned above
And no, we're not palming those models (but perhaps we will? ) but we are sure to do some clubhopping here. It's Barcelona, after all! In fact I just got back from a club
EDIT: Also, at SPB's booth we were shown SPB Shell 3.0 (after being persistent), dont have any pics or vids of that. But it's pretty darn cool. I'm going to buy it when it's out, most likely, beats the crap out of TF3D.
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EDIT: Also, at SPB's booth we were shown SPB Shell 3.0 (after being persistent), dont have any pics or vids of that. But it's pretty darn cool. I'm going to buy it when it's out, most likely, beats the crap out of TF3D.
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I've taken a video of it; it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA
Menneisyys said:
I've taken a video of it; it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA
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Wow ! Looks great, very cool. Your right, look out TF3D.
Alright !!!! It looks like Chainfire is coming home with the goods after all.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,25076342-952,00.html
Well done! A new Touch Pro II and WM 6.5.
hey Chainfire wanna do a beer .
At least i can show u my gratitude for all the work u done.. U here for ur work or what i was looking in to buy a ticket but its simply too expensive
Hehe wasn't me!
Sandbunny: Unfortunately I'm getting on the airplane back home in a few hours

WM 6.5.........May not be so great

Just read an editorial on Engadget about the upcoming 6.5. Doesn't seem they favor it too much. Just take a look here, there top 10 reasons why they think it won't be so great:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/editorial-ten-reasons-why-windows-mobile-6-5-misses-the-mark/
Yeah
It´s not going to be so great, they just launched because they don´t want to miss the Mobile World Congress...
Perhaps wm7 will be better
6.5 interface is identical to my Excalibur with 6.1 std
Think I'll prefer my customized WM6.1 instead of a WM6.5 minor upgrade.
It's engadget....
Did you honestly expect a proper appraisal of it? This is a website that runs total non stories on apple (new apple product rumoured because someone has a picture of a case - that's not even labeled. )
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It's engadget....
Did you honestly expect a proper appraisal of it? This is a website that runs total non stories on apple (new apple product rumoured because someone has a picture of a case - that's not even labeled. )
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oh pls it's not like MS brought something new to the table, it's a totally old OS already
omgz0r fingerscrolling? HTC has that since 2007?
it's another mediocre incremental update.
there's not going to be anything special with it...
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Think I'll prefer my customized WM6.1 instead of a WM6.5 minor upgrade.
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HERE HERE....it does nothing for me
I'm very happy with WM on my Touch Pro and my Trinity right now. If I can get a slightly enhanced version on these phones or on a future phone I'll be even happier.
errrr ... definitely, i think i'll prefer my iPhone in any way !
It's just perfect ... except the fact that bluetooth isn't existing (except for pairing bluetooth handset and not A2DP) and the GPS chip is anemic (sometimes it can locate you on the roof of buildings ! impressive ! ), and ... that's all in fact
Apple made so much patents that other brands just can't create a competitive phone.
The matter is that every brand try to copy the iPhone ... why ? is there not a way to create a brand new device which comes with a new human/machine interface pretty cool ?
Coming from the point that every brand try to copy the iPhone ... when they loose time to copy, Apple takes time to inovate
Before my iPhone3G, i had a Trinity ... no comment !
Even the Exchange Sync is better on the iPhone

Snapdragon 1 GHz is great BUT...

I just picked up a LG IQ (Monaco) from Telus, but I am not sure what to do....I posted a similar list of questions over on ppcgeeks, but then relized that the LG IQ is sort of a GSM phone (Telus seems to be migrating to a GSM G3+ system from thier CDMA system) and thier might be more interest over here.
I did have a Rogers GSM Apache prior to my Touch Pro, so I was watching this sight quite a bit years ago.
I have just come from a Touch Pro, so the LG IQ is a smokingly fast device, both from a responsiveness, and web surfing point of view. The 1 GHz realy DOES make a difference!!!
But that is my problem...
For what it does, its great, but the interface is far behind the latest Sence builds ( I have mostly used Energy CDMA ROM's on my Touch Pro - thanks NRG!!).
So I have a phone that does stuff FAST, but I miss all the bells and whistles of the new HTC software.
1. What to you guys think..should I keep the device, or go to a Touch Pro2, a known but much more limited hardware platform?
2. Do you think there will be enough interest to open it up and start building kitchens/ROMs?
3. Should I just live with it and put Spb shell or something on it?
Sadly the TP2 or the Omnia (1) really are the only WM options available directly from telus right now, and I am quite a committed WM user (I started with the original CE PDA's)
Ready to hear all thoughts.
If there is interest I will post a miny review in a couple of days...are you interested?
keep your 1G phone! everybody say window mobile is sluggish, maybe on 528mzh cpu, but on snapdragon 1G i dont feel any slowness, it quick! and load/render web pages really quick too! if the phone is hot/popular, people will make custom rom for it!
i love my Acer neotouch with 1G cpu, it' so fast!
i tihnk u should keep it. i would love to hv the lg expo as my 2nd phone. mostly because of the keyboard.
right now im on acer neotouch which also has the 1ghz snappydragon and it feels really snappy compared to my old wm phone (X1).
however it also lacks a custom interface likes htc's sense but i hv installed PointUI on my acer just to cover up some of the default windows stuff. maybe u can try that.
i think there will be enough interest in the lg expo that some smart ppl will start developing custom roms for it.
just like my acer neotouch. i was surprised a couple of members here hv cooked custom roms with htc sense for it. though i havent tried them out myself. maybe in time.
meh
1) No, the Touch PRo hasn't been out that long either. There will be plenty of goodies for the LG soon enough once it gets a bit more market penetration. I myself have the phone on order but won't be getting it until next week or later (hoping it arrives before christmas x (>.<) x [fingers crossed]). Just give it some time.
2)Most assuredly! The eXpo has quite the winning combo of hardware features. I'm most excited about the touch sensor, no more trackball nightmares! Nevermind the cool stuff that can be done with the projector.
3)I think you just need to be patient. You are on the bleeding edge of tech, it's going to take the community a little while to catch up esp considering the holiday season. All these wonderful programmers and ROM chefs have families too.
dude r u serious !!!
offcourse keep the lg iq ...
sooner or later there will be a port ..
wait until att release it...
2c
Keep the IQ and please do a rom dump of it quickly too! PM me and I can help you if you need. Thanks!
u might not get custom roms unless spocky12 plans to cook one.
either way, the snapdragon makes up for the sluggish WM.
u'll still be able to install apps made by the wonderful people here at xda.
i say keep the phone!
Once you have snapdragon, why go back to anything with less cpu...Keep it!
treiz said:
1) No, the Touch PRo hasn't been out that long either. There will be plenty of goodies for the LG soon enough once it gets a bit more market penetration. I myself have the phone on order but won't be getting it until next week or later (hoping it arrives before christmas x (>.<) x [fingers crossed]). Just give it some time.
2)Most assuredly! The eXpo has quite the winning combo of hardware features. I'm most excited about the touch sensor, no more trackball nightmares! Nevermind the cool stuff that can be done with the projector.
3)I think you just need to be patient. You are on the bleeding edge of tech, it's going to take the community a little while to catch up esp considering the holiday season. All these wonderful programmers and ROM chefs have families too.
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I'm actually waiting on mine too. I was told I should get it on Tuesday. I've read everything I can on the eXpo and that was what made me choose that over the Tilt2 (TP2). If anything just for the 1ghz processor. I'm using a Tilt right now with a sakajati hyperdragonIV Mega rom and it runs ...ok I guess. I'm running SPB mobile shell on top instead of manilla and it's running a lot faster. If the S-Class interface isn't to my liking (which I'm sure it will be) I'll probably just install the SPB mobile shell if I can. I'm sure it would look pretty sweet on the higher res screen.
Keep the Monaco. Like others have said before me, it's a great phone and more "goodies" will come out in (hopefully) not too long. It's so new here in the states that I can't even find accessories specifically for it. Not even a case. Hell I can't even find where I can buy the projector. I'd get that now if I could. lol (Cubicle movies at work lol )
meh
I was told I should get it on Tuesday.
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Totally Jealous. I bought mine from amazon full price, they say I won't get it until at least the 23. Just ditched my G1, Android is crap IMHO. This will be my first WinMo phone and I'm looking forward to it. I'm new to this flashing thing but it looks like a lot of fun, I've allways held off getting a smart phone until the browsers improved and they certainly have come a long way recently. Looking forward to winmo7 and IE9.
Did this ROM get dumped yet?
I was going to go to the store and dump one of the phone's roms from there for MightyMike and Juggalo_X at PPCGeeks. If this guy is doing it then I'm sure Astain will pass it on to those two.
Trust me don't go back to a sluggish msm72xxx cause your going to regret it, just be patient rom cooking will come, probably in the coming months, so just keep it and try installing htc cabs on it.
If you really miss touchflo, look for throttlelauncher with a skin, its free and does the same thing, and is more customizable. Of course, the touchflo tweaks will not work for it
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Did this ROM get dumped yet?
I was going to go to the store and dump one of the phone's roms from there for MightyMike and Juggalo_X at PPCGeeks. If this guy is doing it then I'm sure Astain will pass it on to those two.
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With a little help, I will dump this ROM...looking for the tools, and will try to do it tonight.
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stimpson said:
With a little help, I will dump this ROM...looking for the tools, and will try to do it tonight.
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36062
follow the procedure in the first post on that thread. pm me your msn if you have it.
liking it much better
cmstackar said:
If you really miss touchflo, look for throttlelauncher with a skin, its free and does the same thing, and is more customizable. Of course, the touchflo tweaks will not work for it
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thanks for the tip...but as time goes on I am getting to like the S-class UI better and better!
This is a phone that was hard to like at first, but grows on you FAST!
I will jump in there and say I will be working for custom roms as soon as I get mine so damn I cant wait to get it... Hows the rom dump coming?
setimpson got some errors when he tried to dump it.
it may not function the same way as the htc phones.
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setimpson got some errors when he tried to dump it.
it may not function the same way as the htc phones.
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what exactly are the errors he got?
meh
Mine is shipping out tomarrow! Can't wait! Should be getting it Monday.

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