http://www.mml.com.tw/topicdetail.php?f=269&t=97431
we discuss about that couple dayz ago, only difference is functionall GPS and 256MB ROM and better camera. nothink I really need, nothing I must pay more money for, I think get this device in old europe, and specially in Slovakia, could be a problem... If HTC release this device. it is only preview I think, not real marketed product... correct me, If I am wrong
sinmae said:
we discuss about that couple dayz ago, only difference is functionall GPS and 256MB ROM and better camera. nothink I really need, nothing I must pay more money for, I think get this device in old europe, and specially in Slovakia, could be a problem... If HTC release this device. it is only preview I think, not real marketed product... correct me, If I am wrong
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smaller size, nice turning over screen, official WM6, GPS, extra memory, fast processor, much better look, better camera
enough reasons to buy this phone, altough maybe not enough reasons to upgrade from a TyTn
Phone will be available in Europe Q2-Q3 2007, they will have to produce it, to compete with the new Glofiish phones from Eten.
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should have faster HSDPA plus HSUPA (for uploads) as well I read here http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=733
I don't think it's lighter than the Hermes though at 160g with battery ...
This is not the device I saw the one I saw was closer to a herald than this and no pop up display at all
So Buying Vario II (hermes) now Not worth ?
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I don't think it's lighter than the Hermes though at 160g with battery ...
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The Hermes is 184g so quite a difference when you think about it.
yep 15% lighter ... didn't realize the Hermes was so "heavy" ... true
damn, that pop out screen is dying to break off isn't it?
I don't get pic 5.
What are we seeing on the bottom? Keyboard removed?
That my friends, is going to be my next phone
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That my friends, is going to be my next phone
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Same here; check these pics: http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
Im fairly sure this is a dopod or cingular version of this phone, if you look at the side shot you can clearly see that key 5 above the scroll wheel is marked as PTT. we are the only company I can think of using PTT in our HTC phones. also the styling is very similar to the herm100 that dopod and cingular use - the video call cam.
when I see HTC again I will ask but I doubt they will answer I was told to expect these phones in spetember in the USA. however a sample I saw was very similar execpt no super duper keyboard. and a non functional GPS
Am i blind or does that nice upgraded 3MP camera seem to be lacking a flash??
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Am i blind or does that nice upgraded 3MP camera seem to be lacking a flash??
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Taken from http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=733
Built-in Digital Camera
Main Camera: CMOS sensor, 1920x1440 (2.765 million pixels)
Autofocus (AF): Supported
Optical Zoom: 1 x
Macro Mode: Not supported
Built-in Flash: Mobile light (LED)
Recordable Image Formats: JPG, BMP
Camcorder: 320x240pixel
Recordable Video Formats: 3GPP, MPEG4, MJPG
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I know people have posted pics of the kaiser, but has anyone seen these pics of it before?
Looks like better pictures than before.
http://www.gpsandco.com/articles/newsitem.php?id=4859
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Im fairly sure this is a dopod or cingular version of this phone, if you look at the side shot you can clearly see that key 5 above the scroll wheel is marked as PTT. we are the only company I can think of using PTT in our HTC phones. also the styling is very similar to the herm100 that dopod and cingular use - the video call cam.
when I see HTC again I will ask but I doubt they will answer I was told to expect these phones in spetember in the USA. however a sample I saw was very similar execpt no super duper keyboard. and a non functional GPS
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not sure what provider version it is.. but cingular is due to get the kaiser and should be available late Q3 or Q4... and cingular isnt the only one that will be offering PTT.. OrangeUK is implementing the kodiak PTT system also. Also it will be likely that cingular will leave the front camera since they are implementing the "Video Share" but i dont know for sure if they are leaving it there.
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damn, that pop out screen is dying to break off isn't it?
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Yeah but it looks useful for using on a desk.
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Yeah but it looks useful for using on a desk.
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true and I like the design too...but I have to say, with my HTC Wizard, I never used it on a desk...and never thought of doing so...let's wait another 3 months so we can play with it
Any solid predictions on street price? I'm hoping it wouldn't be too much, and not much more than what the TyTN goes for now...that could be asking for too much huh.
Unless one of the chefs around here can figure out a way to activate it, there is no video out capability on the Imagio (unlike the Touch Pro 2 and other predecessors). I bought one off of ebay because it was listed for the Imagio. It doesn't work. I contacted the seller and he offered me a refund and said that he was going to pull the listings that he had for that application. It seems that Verizon told him that the Imagio is the TP2 without the sliding keyboard also.
So, anyone find any other functionality differences?
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Unless one of the chefs around here can figure out a way to activate it, there is no video out capability on the Imagio (unlike the Touch Pro 2 and other predecessors). I bought one off of ebay because it was listed for the Imagio. It doesn't work. I contacted the seller and he offered me a refund and said that he was going to pull the listings that he had for that application. It seems that Verizon told him that the Imagio is the TP2 without the sliding keyboard also.
So, anyone find any other functionality differences?
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I'm wondering if they locked it out in the ROM somehow. I guess we need more info on the hardware internally and/or someone in the know to see if the ROM has it disabled in some way.
Over at ppcgeeks, a couple of guys have posted .cab files that (as yet) haven't worked. I think that the video out is either disabled in the ROM or (worse) the hardware. It shares the chipset and general hardware specs as the Touch Pro 2, but no video out. I have speculated that it might be (illogically) because the Imagio is Mobile TV capable. I can't see why Verizon would want to stop people (ME) from being able to export the screen to a larger medium (I bought a PICO projector for just that).
my bet is on the fact that it may be hacked but is disabled because of some legalities having to deal with Media Flo.
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my bet is on the fact that it may be hacked but is disabled because of some legalities having to deal with Media Flo.
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You got it bub. It has video out capabilities.
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You got it bub. It has video out capabilities.
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Any ideas on how to re-activate the video out?
I dumped the files in the windows directory and did notice there is a png image icon for the settings menu for TV-out.
Any news on this front. I have the Imagio and thinking of returning it for a TP2 due to this feature missing. Too bad I really like the Imagio but I need the TV-out capability. Thanks !
Any updates here? I am also looking to enable the TV Out functionality on my Imagio. Thanks.
news? i,m waiting for by my plug.
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Hi evrybody I'm a new user in this forum and I'm in a conflict that hope you guys could resolve with your knowlegde. I'm actually writing this thread with my Palm treo 750, I hope that this is the right spot for this thread cause I've been reading a lot of post in many forums and websites but I've got my self just more confused of what to do. Ok I've just brought this smartphone for my distantance and pocket connectivity esigence, I was new in the smartphone world and I found my self mistaken about evrythings. I wish to traw this phone in the bin rightnow. It's making me crazy! Costantly freezing and doesn't do what i need it to do. I need a smartphone that could give me video call via 3g or 4g with VoIP and single VoIP call, flash support (for flash website) and java support (always for the same reason), make fb and msn chat streaming video and music, writing and making photos/videos. I hate when my phone freeze without any apparently reason or lag cause I'm listening music and using internet in the same moment, plus my battery life is about 3 hours. I've been looking in internet and at the end I've arrived to the point that I have to decide betwen Htc evo and Iphone 4. I've tried Iphone 3 and I didn't like it at all, I hate the soft keyboard and the OS doesn't support flash. I've never tried htc evo but I know that andoid is awesome and support flash (I don't kow about java) both have soft keyboard but both have even hard keyboars with witch i can upgrade my phone with (so keyborad will not gonna be a problem) both OS have a lot of free and pay apps they are very versatile. I'm not so confortable with the fingertouch os but I can buy stylus for both mobile. The screen and the camera in the evo are better then the Iphone, and android it's really easy to use (for what I've seen on m.youtube cause I can't see normal youtube) instead of the iphone OS (witch I've found a bit tricky). The iphone have no expandible memory card, (evo does) and (if I'm not wrong) you can tweak android a lot more (and with less problem) than the iphone. So... I've got a calderon of confiuson in my head right now and I need some clarification because maybe what I'm saying is not correct and for sure most of you guys know more than me about. Plus this is just correlated througth my esigence, cause at the end a smartphone it's strictly related of what you want to do with that. Cheers guy, I'm sorry for the large thread but I wanted to be the most possibly clear. I thanks already you guys for this wonderful forum (that I've been using a LOT) and for the one's of you that gonna gimme suggest about.
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Hi evrybody I'm a new user in this forum and I'm in a conflict that hope you guys could resolve with your knowlegde. I'm actually writing this thread with my Palm treo 750, I hope that this is the right spot for this thread cause I've been reading a lot of post in many forums and websites but I've got my self just more confused of what to do. Ok I've just brought this smartphone for my distantance and pocket connectivity esigence, I was new in the smartphone world and I found my self mistaken about evrythings. I wish to traw this phone in the bin rightnow. It's making me crazy! Costantly freezing and doesn't do what i need it to do. I need a smartphone that could give me video call via 3g or 4g with VoIP and single VoIP call, flash support (for flash website) and java support (always for the same reason), make fb and msn chat streaming video and music, writing and making photos/videos. I hate when my phone freeze without any apparently reason or lag cause I'm listening music and using internet in the same moment, plus my battery life is about 3 hours. I've been looking in internet and at the end I've arrived to the point that I have to decide betwen Htc evo and Iphone 4. I've tried Iphone 3 and I didn't like it at all, I hate the soft keyboard and the OS doesn't support flash. I've never tried htc evo but I know that andoid is awesome and support flash (I don't kow about java) both have soft keyboard but both have even hard keyboars with witch i can upgrade my phone with (so keyborad will not gonna be a problem) both OS have a lot of free and pay apps they are very versatile. I'm not so confortable with the fingertouch os but I can buy stylus for both mobile. The screen and the camera in the evo are better then the Iphone, and android it's really easy to use (for what I've seen on m.youtube cause I can't see normal youtube) instead of the iphone OS (witch I've found a bit tricky). The iphone have no expandible memory card, (evo does) and (if I'm not wrong) you can tweak android a lot more (and with less problem) than the iphone. So... I've got a calderon of confiuson in my head right now and I need some clarification because maybe what I'm saying is not correct and for sure most of you guys know more than me about. Plus this is just correlated througth my esigence, cause at the end a smartphone it's strictly related of what you want to do with that. Cheers guy, I'm sorry for the large thread but I wanted to be the most possibly clear. I thanks already you guys for this wonderful forum (that I've been using a LOT) and for the one's of you that gonna gimme suggest about.
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I own both phones. I'd personally recommend the iPhone 4 over the EVO 4G. The display on the iPhone 4 is actually better: higher resolution, better colors, better viewing angles - the EVO's display is only bigger. The camera (both front and back) on the iPhone 4 is also better: it's 5MP but has a better sensor which leads to better quality stills and 720p video. The EVO also has a severely gimped/old GPU and while the iPhone 4's GPU is not cutting edge it's still a lot better in day to day use. Overall both phones have similar hardware features but just about everything on the iPhone 4 performs better - I wont get into software since that's more opinion/preference based.
With that said, I wouldn't recommend either for you. You seem to like Android (and it is a good OS) so with that in mind I'd recommend either a Nexus S (the best Android phone out IMO + VOIP is integrated into 2.3 which is only currently/officially available on the NS and may never land on the EVO), G2 (if you like hardware keyboards), or a MT4G (if you just want really beefy specs).
Cheers! Appriciate the anwser! I actually don't know about the OS maybe i could just get my self used to it. cause I've read that it have skype with video call (and that's one of the most important things). I'll like to try that nexsus that u was talkin bout. thank you! the nexsus seems the phone that i was looking at, but no programs till now support the front facing camera for video call..
So I've been lurking around XDA for a while now. I'm not new to Android, and in fact I've used this site before to customize the Huawei Ideos/T-Mobile Comet.
I replaced that old phone with a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G Slide and I've had it for a year unmodded
Anyways, one major thing that made me hold off on changing the rom on my phone is the fact that no matter what ROM was out, it couldn't record any higher than 720p. Now to most people, that isn't an issue, but the MAIN reason I bought the phone was for the 1080p recording.
With that being said, has there been any ROM developed that finally fixed the 1080p recording? I've read that the phone's ROM is based off the HTC Sensation, which is another phone with a similar camera and that recently got 1080p fixed. Has it been fixed for the Mytouch or is it on the way?
Also, what are the best roms for this phone with the least bugs?
Thanks for your time.
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So I've been lurking around XDA for a while now. I'm not new to Android, and in fact I've used this site before to customize the Huawei Ideos/T-Mobile Comet.
I replaced that old phone with a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G Slide and I've had it for a year unmodded
Anyways, one major thing that made me hold off on changing the rom on my phone is the fact that no matter what ROM was out, it couldn't record any higher than 720p. Now to most people, that isn't an issue, but the MAIN reason I bought the phone was for the 1080p recording.
With that being said, has there been any ROM developed that finally fixed the 1080p recording? I've read that the phone's ROM is based off the HTC Sensation, which is another phone with a similar camera and that recently got 1080p fixed. Has it been fixed for the Mytouch or is it on the way?
Also, what are the best roms for this phone with the least bugs?
Thanks for your time.
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I've had the MT4GS for over a year now, S-OFF and unlocked. I've tested/run most of the available ROMs. Several of the newer ROMs are quite nice, but I think 1080P video is out of the question except for stock-based ROMs. Even though I've run some of the newer ROMs, I always end up going back to the Miktouch 0.7 ROM because it is just so stable and everything works like it is supposed to work. It is based on the last HTC stock ROM (the 1.63.531.2) but has been extensively tweaked and modded to make it much more smooth and unbloated. And 1080P video works perfect, of course.
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I've had the MT4GS for over a year now, S-OFF and unlocked. I've tested/run most of the available ROMs. Several of the newer ROMs are quite nice, but I think 1080P video is out of the question except for stock-based ROMs. Even though I've run some of the newer ROMs, I always end up going back to the Miktouch 0.7 ROM because it is just so stable and everything works like it is supposed to work. It is based on the last HTC stock ROM (the 1.63.531.2) but has been extensively tweaked and modded to make it much more smooth and unbloated. And 1080P video works perfect, of course.
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yeah the one of the most glaring issue for our device especially as compared to the sensation for ICS and newer is 1080p recording. any stock based ROM will have it, but anything else pretty much wont (yet...hopefully...)
It may just be me, but I think 1080p is a bit over rated for this phone. I can't find a significant difference between 720p and 1080p......it may just be because I'm used to 720p
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It may just be me, but I think 1080p is a bit over rated for this phone. I can't find a significant difference between 720p and 1080p......it may just be because I'm used to 720p
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I literally LoL at everyone who "can't" live without 1080. Its a phone people if you want a camera.......go buy one.
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I believe it's as much bragging rights as anything Strapped. It's certainly not because it limits usability.
If just viewing on the phone, then you'd be correct that there is little to no difference between 720P and 1080P recordings. But, exporting the video to view on a large screen, like a 47" 1080P TV, then yes, you would definitely see a very big difference in the quality and resolution. Saying "get a camera" is rather disingenuous. Why don't we all go back to carrying around a dumb phone, an mp3 player, a camera, a pager? Let's get a manpurse to hold it all!
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If just viewing on the phone, then you'd be correct that there is little to no difference between 720P and 1080P recordings. But, exporting the video to view on a large screen, like a 47" 1080P TV, then yes, you would definitely see a very big difference in the quality and resolution. Saying "get a camera" is rather disingenuous. Why don't we all go back to carrying around a dumb phone, an mp3 player, a camera, a pager? Let's get a manpurse to hold it all!
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Or people like you can get off their ass and start coding....just saying. Its not a walk down memory lane figuring this out. It sucks that when a dev tries its not good enough and then when we say go buy a camera were basically called a smartass. The DS camera is a joke if your not on Sense point blank period, no way around the garbage this produces nonstock.
The whole attitude of ill help you if you help me has left this community in a big way. And that's cool for you guys, cause continuing to want and not help will leave everyone stranded. I'm half tempted to tell jkilo to keep his DS ill mail mine to cybot and just be done once and for all. Because again free time is taken for granted from link sucking bums who offer nothing to the community
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Or people like you can get off their ass and start coding....just saying. Its not a walk down memory lane figuring this out. It sucks that when a dev tries its not good enough and then when we say go buy a camera were basically called a smartass. The DS camera is a joke if your not on Sense point blank period, no way around the garbage this produces nonstock.
The whole attitude of ill help you if you help me has left this community in a big way. And that's cool for you guys, cause continuing to want and not help will leave everyone stranded. I'm half tempted to tell jkilo to keep his DS ill mail mine to cybot and just be done once and for all. Because again free time is taken for granted from link sucking bums who offer nothing to the community
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Chill the **** out, dude. I wasn't slamming you and your rant is way out of line here. This was an honest discussion of the 1080P capabilities and a desire to have it available on ROMs other than stock. If it is your idea that only people who code and contribute code should use or have any voice in alternate ROM development, then I think you'd have a very lonely forum.
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If just viewing on the phone, then you'd be correct that there is little to no difference between 720P and 1080P recordings. But, exporting the video to view on a large screen, like a 47" 1080P TV, then yes, you would definitely see a very big difference in the quality and resolution. Saying "get a camera" is rather disingenuous. Why don't we all go back to carrying around a dumb phone, an mp3 player, a camera, a pager? Let's get a manpurse to hold it all!
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The main reason the Mytouch 4g slide was praised was because of the camera. It was pretty advanced for its time. In fact, there are few phones out there that match the Mytouch 4g slide in productivity and features. Most phones that now have 8megapixel cameras and 1080p recording don't even have a keyboard. The Mytouch doesn't sacrifice anything, with that being said, why would I (or anyone really) downgrade the mytouch?
Think about it this way.... why would you buy a Corvette and downgrade its engine? For better fuel economy? The car gets good mileage as is. The phone's the same way. My only gripes with the stock rom on the phone is the bloatware.
I did find something I liked so I'll play around with it see if its decent enough for me.
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The main reason the Mytouch 4g slide was praised was because of the camera. It was pretty advanced for its time. In fact, there are few phones out there that match the Mytouch 4g slide in productivity and features. Most phones that now have 8megapixel cameras and 1080p recording don't even have a keyboard. The Mytouch doesn't sacrifice anything, with that being said, why would I (or anyone really) downgrade the mytouch?
Think about it this way.... why would you buy a Corvette and downgrade its engine? For better fuel economy? The car gets good mileage as is. The phone's the same way. My only gripes with the stock rom on the phone is the bloatware.
I did find something I liked so I'll play around with it see if its decent enough for me.
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Miktouch 0.7 doesn't have any bloatware, it is tweaked nicely, runs very smoothly. It is stock-based, from the last HTC OTA for this phone, so the 1080P video works perfectly.
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Or people like you can get off their ass and start coding....just saying. Its not a walk down memory lane figuring this out. It sucks that when a dev tries its not good enough and then when we say go buy a camera were basically called a smartass. The DS camera is a joke if your not on Sense point blank period, no way around the garbage this produces nonstock.
The whole attitude of ill help you if you help me has left this community in a big way. And that's cool for you guys, cause continuing to want and not help will leave everyone stranded. I'm half tempted to tell jkilo to keep his DS ill mail mine to cybot and just be done once and for all. Because again free time is taken for granted from link sucking bums who offer nothing to the community
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Relax man, we're all friends here... It goes without saying this is more of a user biased device, considering how few devs there are.
You have to be ok with being just one of the few devs and not having that many people actively being able to help you. That's just how it is. Most people won't dev unless they're inspired or motivated to (insert reason X here). And there isn't much you can say or do to change that. Not every device will have the luxury of having multiple devs, and we're lucky to have the ones that we have.
I understand where you're coming from though. Have you seen any other forums where there's like only one dev? I swear it's like one momma pig and litters of runts. I won't mention which device, but there's more typed out thanking and BS going on in the dev section than anything else. I don't condone such behavior, but hey, whatever floats their boat.
But just because I don't contribute code doesn't mean I'm not helpful. Or at least I still think I am.
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But it kinda is a "whatever they say goes" deal... If you don't code, whatever input you give is nothing more than an opinion or some general help at best. Not much authority with that.
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But it kinda is a "whatever they say goes" deal... If you don't code, whatever input you give is nothing more than an opinion or some general help at best. Not much authority with that.
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Then it is just devs doing a circle jerk. Having users actually use the ROMs and contribute their experiences in using those ROMs gives the dev a lot of feedback on how and what to improve or change.
I used to be all worried about losing my 1080p video capabilities when I first started flashing.
Then I realized I wasn't filming HD movies for Hollywood production and most of my videos never left the phone, let alone YT videos are rarely 1080p anyway. I'm betting most can't even tell the difference because it only matters on a screen larger than 35 inches anyway.
Get over it and you're in a wonderful place of magical ROMs built by great folks devoting their free time to mutual enjoyment.
Thank you developers!
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I used to be all worried about losing my 1080p video capabilities when I first started flashing.
Then I realized I wasn't filming HD movies for Hollywood production and most of my videos never left the phone, let alone YT videos are rarely 1080p anyway. I'm betting most can't even tell the difference because it only matters on a screen larger than 35 inches anyway.
Get over it and you're in a wonderful place of magical ROMs built by great folks devoting their free time to mutual enjoyment.
Thank you developers!
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Of course, if you're only viewing on a phone it makes no difference. But, some of us do export the videos to play on a large screen. Then, it does make a big difference. I want the best quality video possible when I'm viewing vids of my goddaughter I've taken each year when I go to China to visit.
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Of course, if you're only viewing on a phone it makes no difference. But, some of us do export the videos to play on a large screen. Then, it does make a big difference. I want the best quality video possible when I'm viewing vids of my goddaughter I've taken each year when I go to China to visit.
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I think tonight I'll test 720 vs 1080 on the 73 inch TV cause I want to see the difference cause I've never really cared, but now you sir have my mind wondering hahaha
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Of course, if you're only viewing on a phone it makes no difference. But, some of us do export the videos to play on a large screen. Then, it does make a big difference. I want the best quality video possible when I'm viewing vids of my goddaughter I've taken each year when I go to China to visit.
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If HD quality videos are that important, you really should own a professional camera for such things. The quality of the camera on your phone isn't comparable to a professional one made even 3-4 years ago. That's why I have my Olympus E-PL1. That takes 720p video that blows anything my phone does/did out of the water.
You're essentially buying a Hyundai for the speed. Just because it can go 100mph, doesn't mean it does it well.
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If HD quality videos are that important, you really should own a professional camera for such things. The quality of the camera on your phone isn't comparable to a professional one made even 3-4 years ago. That's why I have my Olympus E-PL1. That takes 720p video that blows anything my phone does/did out of the water.
You're essentially buying a Hyundai for the speed. Just because it can go 100mph, doesn't mean it does it well.
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Interesting point....
But then I saw this article yesterday and it puts an interesting spin on the whole 720p / 1080p debate....
http://gizmodo.com/5972475/a-pro-photographer-with-a-crappy-toy-camera-proves-hardware-doesnt-matter
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Interesting point....
But then I saw this article yesterday and it puts an interesting spin on the whole 720p / 1080p debate....
http://gizmodo.com/5972475/a-pro-photographer-with-a-crappy-toy-camera-proves-hardware-doesnt-matter
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Ugh, that article frustrates me.
I'm well aware of this movement and also aware of how much a joke it is. I partnered with two local professional photographers, one a retired Xerox executive, who were also partners at Image City Photography Gallery in Rochester, NY within the last few years and discovered they held a mobile-phone only exhibit (once, mind you). The photos were awful, just like the one displayed in the article you linked. Even the partner photographers dabbled in it a bit, and with their genius, they touched up the photos HEAVY with effects to look different and interesting, but unless you were normally of the heavy distorted style or explained that they were taken with smartphones, the quality was shunned.
Please don't fall into the trap that art can be anything. That basically says that any photo taken anywhere at any time of anything is thus art. Then you're the same as a teenage girl who discovers Instagram and thinks she's some professional artist or some idiot that buys a $1200 DSLR thinking it automatically means they know anything about photography. Show me an entire wedding's professional photos done with a smartphone...
I'm not saying it won't get to the point when our smartphones are also professional quality photo devices, but we're years away.
No need to respond, just my opinions and ranting; as Instagram-nation frustrates me beyond belief.
To lighten the mood: http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6853117/look-at-this-instagram-nickelback-parody
rorytmeadows said:
If HD quality videos are that important, you really should own a professional camera for such things. The quality of the camera on your phone isn't comparable to a professional one made even 3-4 years ago. That's why I have my Olympus E-PL1. That takes 720p video that blows anything my phone does/did out of the water.
You're essentially buying a Hyundai for the speed. Just because it can go 100mph, doesn't mean it does it well.
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So why have a smartphone, just carry a dumb phone, an MP3 player, a camera, a pager, a laptop, and a nice backpack to hold it all. This phone has a 1080P video ability that works extremely well and takes excellent video. If I wanted to carry a separate camera with me everywhere and have it in my hand all the time on the chance that I might see something I want to record, that would be great, wouldn't it? Do you have that Olympus with you ALL THE TIME?
By your logic, every complaint about a ROM can be easily solved. Keyboard not working correctly? Well, you don't need a keyboard, there is a keyboard on the screen you can use, you're stupid for wanting that qwerty, anyway. Music not playing well/audio cutting out? Get a real music player like an iPod, if you're serious about music you shouldn't be using a phone anyway. Battery life sucks? Shouldn't be using your phone like a computer anyway, get a laptop with a bigger battery.
And the "you're not a professional so don't bother wanting better quality"... My reply to that would not be allowed in this forum. I've seen a lot of people carrying professional equipment that couldn't take a good photograph if their life depended upon it. Just because you can afford to buy expensive crap doesn't mean you know any more about photography than the guy with a crappy smartphone.
I've taken video at 720P using a CM10 ROM and I've compared it to video of the same subject taken at 1080P using the MIktouch ROM. The difference when viewing on even a 42" 1080P television screen is very apparent. I don't have to be a professional photographer to notice or appreciate it.