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http://www.intomobile.com/2008/09/18/att-blackberry-bold-delayed-until-november.html
According To Some leaked info from intomobile, the release date of the HTC TOUCH PRO AKA the Att Fuze, will be released october 23!!!!!
WOOT!!!!!! =D
thank God! my 8525 is on it's last legs, hopefully i can get another month out of it
Just a little bump =D
Now i'm split on whether to jump on the Sprint version, or wait it out for the ATT version...
Fuze = Touch Pro? Is there much difference between the Touch Pro and the TouchHD? Just wondering. I'm on AT&T and have a tilt now and have pretty much given up on the proper display drivers ever coming out. I'm hearing about TouchHD, and now about Fuze... just wondering if I should wait till TouchHD is available from AT&T...
The fuze is the Touch Pro, the TouchHD probably won't be out for a while as it was just now publicly announced by HTC.
theres a whole thread titled the fuze i guess it got lost in the jumble somewhere
but im another person whose 8525 wants to give up so the quicker the fuze shows up the better
Shinare said:
Fuze = Touch Pro? Is there much difference between the Touch Pro and the TouchHD? Just wondering. I'm on AT&T and have a tilt now and have pretty much given up on the proper display drivers ever coming out. I'm hearing about TouchHD, and now about Fuze... just wondering if I should wait till TouchHD is available from AT&T...
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To recap:
Fuze = Touch Pro, except AT&T is getting rid of the front camera, adding a PTT button (below the volume buttons), and may or may not change the keyboard layout (symbols instead of numbers on the top row). Plus some software is removed (but apparently can be added back in from various ROMs/CABs).
Touch HD (vs Touch Pro) = larger screen (3.8") with higher resolution (800x480), no keyboard, built-in 3.5mm headphone jack, 5mp camera but no flash; most other specs are the same. There is no info on if/when AT&T might be getting the TouchHD. But the TouchHD is listed as a UMTS900/2100 device, so there's a good chance that there will be a delay before AT&T gets a UMTS850/1900 version, just like the delay with the Touch Pro/Fuze.
Of course, nothing is really set in stone until we see some official announcements, so it's up to you how you want to play your cards
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To recap:
Fuze = Touch Pro, except AT&T is getting rid of the front camera, adding a PTT button (below the volume buttons), and may or may not change the keyboard layout (symbols instead of numbers on the top row). Plus some software is removed (but apparently can be added back in from various ROMs/CABs).
Touch HD (vs Touch Pro) = larger screen (3.8") with higher resolution (800x480), no keyboard, built-in 3.5mm headphone jack, 5mp camera but no flash; most other specs are the same. There is no info on if/when AT&T might be getting the TouchHD. But the TouchHD is listed as a UMTS900/2100 device, so there's a good chance that there will be a delay before AT&T gets a UMTS850/1900 version, just like the delay with the Touch Pro/Fuze.
Of course, nothing is really set in stone until we see some official announcements, so it's up to you how you want to play your cards
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you also have to wonder if att will ever get the touch HD since it is direct competition with the iphone just like att never got the original touch or the diamond as of yet
fuze all the way
lbhocky19 said:
you also have to wonder if att will ever get the touch HD since it is direct competition with the iphone just like att never got the original touch or the diamond as of yet
fuze all the way
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Yes, true. But that would be a lot more speculative. After all, AT&T could also win over more customers by offering two top-end devices side-by-side (for all the people who have been wanting an iPhone-like device but haven't switched to AT&T because they either need WM or don't want iTunes).
But then again, AT&T is having issues with its network so it may be smart for them not to bite off more than they can chew.
Fuze it is then, thanks for the info. Hopefully that PTT button can be remapped to something else. No sad loss on the front camera, no vid call here anyway. The HD really looks like what I want, but if its going to be a long time or possibly never... Hoping with all the great talent here working on the Raphael there will be some great ROMs to replace the stock AT&T one with. The ROM listed in my sig will probably be the last ROM I download for my tilt.
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Fuze it is then, thanks for the info. Hopefully that PTT button can be remapped to something else. No sad loss on the front camera, no vid call here anyway. The HD really looks like what I want, but if its going to be a long time or possibly never... Hoping with all the great talent here working on the Raphael there will be some great ROMs to replace the stock AT&T one with. The ROM listed in my sig will probably be the last ROM I download for my tilt.
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the HD just dont work for me i need a keyboard
and hopefully when the fuze comes out someone will be nice enoug to actually tell me how to flash roms and all that. i have a 8525 now and its practically dead but ive never figured out the whole rom changing stuff so for future reference thanks to anyone whose helpfull
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Fuze it is then, thanks for the info. Hopefully that PTT button can be remapped to something else. No sad loss on the front camera, no vid call here anyway. The HD really looks like what I want, but if its going to be a long time or possibly never... Hoping with all the great talent here working on the Raphael there will be some great ROMs to replace the stock AT&T one with. The ROM listed in my sig will probably be the last ROM I download for my tilt.
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Dude I'm using the same ROM on my Tilt and love it!!! It's now the most usable it's ever been...and of course that would happen when I'm about to upgrade to a new device
talk about fuzeee
any pricing talk?
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talk about fuzeee
any pricing talk?
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Most likely $299 with 2 year contract after $100 rebate with an applicable data plan.
I hate the title of this thread, the Fuze was never ANNOUNCED by AT&T, so it's completely misleading.
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Dude I'm using the same ROM on my Tilt and love it!!! It's now the most usable it's ever been...and of course that would happen when I'm about to upgrade to a new device
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I agree completely. Best ROM for the tilt.
Thundarr The Barbarian said:
Most likely $299 with 2 year contract after $100 rebate with an applicable data plan.
I hate the title of this thread, the Fuze was never ANNOUNCED by AT&T, so it's completely misleading.
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I think the title implies that the AT&T Fuze was announced, not that AT&T announced the Fuze. A subtle but significant distinction. Either way i can't wait to buy one.
lbhocky19 said:
the HD just dont work for me i need a keyboard and hopefully when the fuze comes out someone will be nice enoug to actually tell me how to flash roms and all that. i have a 8525 now and its practically dead but ive never figured out the whole rom changing stuff so for future reference thanks to anyone whose helpfull
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There will be loads of information on how to flash, I'm sure it will be essentially the same as in the diamond and kiaser forum. Do some reading before you get it so you'll be all prepared.
^^^Well, regardless, it was not announced by anyone but bloggers that saw the same sheet we did.
Here's my prediction: I think AT&T is going to ANNOUNCE the Fuze on October 23rd, 1 week after Sprint releases it (exclusivity rights?)... Then RELEASE it November 16-22, at least 1 month after Sprint. I don't really think it's reasonable to expect a release date of 10/23 based on a marketing road map we got a peek at, so that's all I'm going to venture a guess at for now. Oh, and for some reason I don't think it's coming in 5 days, like someone said before.
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^^^Well, regardless, it was not announced by anyone but bloggers that saw the same sheet we did.
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I'm gonna have to disagree and say that a blogger posting these dates would constitute and announcement, even if it turns out to be incorrect. I heard the 29th of september too, but i don't think that person knew what they were talking about. I think the site referenced by the OP is far more reliable. I am definitely hoping for an October release however, as i'd like to have mine before i head on vacation over thanksgiving.
Get to use 3G on my phone for the first time...
The person who predicted a release at the end of September has long since abandoned that position; maybe you missed the thread, but when the person who claimed his brother is an AT&T VP said that the actual date was 10/15, the September guy agreed that that was pretty close to the actual date (which, he said, had changed shortly before); this was a couple of weeks ago. Whether it actually changed then or the earlier information was just wrong, I don't have any clue, but AFAIK, no one is now forecasting a release this month.
In any event, as for me, I'm going to wait at least until 11/3, when Sony Ericsson has promised news on the release of the Xperia X1 in North America. Although I think the Touch Pro is a better device in most ways, the extra resolution on the X1 is really decisive for me. If that announcement includes AT&T, I'll wait for the X1. If not, I'll probably pick up a Fuze as soon thereafter as it's available. (What I'd really rather have is the Touch HD, with the same resolution as the X1 and without the extra bulk of a keyboard that I'll never use, but given the usual time frame on HTC devices, I really don't want to wait until next spring/summer before replacing my current phone.)
I just wondering Is there way to fix a front camera to at & t fuze using any hardware changing
Yes. There is. But no point. You would need the following:
OEM Fuze molded front cover of touch pro to see the front camera. (Or be ghetto and cut a hole through your front cover)
OEM VGA camera used in the touch pro
Like every other HTC phone, the front camera disabled phones have a socket for the front camera, but there is no camera. If you could find a dead touch pro that someone is selling for parts, buy the camera and it's possible. I don't know how to enable it software wise though.
Why in the world would they remove the front camera anyway? Does it really cost that much more for the front camera?
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Why in the world would they remove the front camera anyway? Does it really cost that much more for the front camera?
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Pick 2 of the below:
1. It cuts them a little cost
2. AT&T doesn't support video calling so no point
3. Because they wanted to?
but At & T has one way live video sharing
I always see a few of these posts come up but i always also hear how video calling isn't as popular as we'd like. It's not implemented in the US even though they could have and where it is available it's still partially a flop.
Remove it i say!
I think the video calling its not popular in us, any us wireless company doesn't offer video calling and I would say video sharing is not popular either in us. Even thought someone traveling all round the world it might be very impotent. Specially, if they would offer international video calling.
so I'm saying keep this thread
Because,somebody who wants video calling can use this thread as help to enable video calling. Specially European and Asian they can use FUZE as global roaming phone with 3G coz touch pro doesn't have all HSDPA/WCDMA 850/900/2100/1900 MHz and keep their video calling.
as example like our member kraize he can use 3g feature in usa and go to India and use video calling and my self too
Confrencing
Hey Guys I own a Unbranded Tytn II Dual Camera And a Htc Fuse The us Wont see Video Confrencing Untill late 09 2010 But I posted a App on Xda Called Ivisit Just becuase no Us network Supports it Don't mean it can't Work Go to www.ivisit.com it is Full live Video Confrencing for Windows mobile And Mac/Pc And it Works Great If you only have one Camera it will be hard to keep turning the phone around unlike me with my Tytn II But Hey it's Still Real Confrencing ...So Check out Ivisit And yea Att wan'ts to Cut Cost if a Front Camera is not Needed
WTF? the FUZE has a front video camera?
where have i been?
Can we use tytn II front cam for Htc fuze I have seen they selling kaiser front cam on eBay can anybody find out is that work and if it is work then we have the front cam driver also i think
I like ivisit its awesome it is the best solution for the video calling problem in US
Kraize said:
Pick 2 of the below:
1. It cuts them a little cost
2. AT&T doesn't support video calling so no point
3. Because they wanted to?
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2. AT&T doesn't support video calling so no point
sorry but i gotta correct u on that ..
last week i went to a seminar for marketing directors in washington d.c, and i was able to do the whole "video call" with my wife and daughter when it was time for my daughter to go to bed.
worked OK..not perfect but it got the job done.
Late,
Jstar
I believe Kraze is talking about 2 way video calling which is why the non-US versions of TP have the front facing camera.
JstarLuvsTina said:
2. AT&T doesn't support video calling so no point
sorry but i gotta correct u on that ..
last week i went to a seminar for marketing directors in washington d.c, and i was able to do the whole "video call" with my wife and daughter when it was time for my daughter to go to bed.
worked OK..not perfect but it got the job done.
Late,
Jstar
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Yeah. I was talking about 2 way conferencing. and did you just video call from dialer? Or did you use 3rd party software?
If you want to go the other way, AT&T B2B sells a version of the Fuze with both cameras removed
Just a carry a pocket mirror!
Just carry a pocket mirror and have the mirror reflect your phone screen image. You can see the person at the other end this way on the mirror. Low tech solution to a hitech problem
I wonder why AT & T do not offer two way video calling. Can some one tell me Why is this at & t do not offer 2way video calling. I think whole Europe & Asia has two way video calling
There is a point
Although ATT or any other US wireless carrier may not support video conferencing, you can always use the vga camera for skype mobile, or any other reason people use a camera on themselves. People like to take pics of themselves for whatever reason, facebook, myspace, etc. , but it is a piece of hardware that makes the phone so popular, I think. Thats just me, I dont know how anybody else feels about that.
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Although ATT or any other US wireless carrier may not support video conferencing, you can always use the vga camera for skype mobile, or any other reason people use a camera on themselves. People like to take pics of themselves for whatever reason, facebook, myspace, etc. , but it is a piece of hardware that makes the phone so popular, I think. Thats just me, I dont know how anybody else feels about that.
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No, you can't.
i have an idea why not just wait until an actual two way conferencing phone comes out in the US. Its a good concept but i would rather have it come with the phone instead of rigging it that way
New HTC Touch Pro
Hi guys, i have a new touch pro "GSM" and made a rom update with energy rom 3.0, I am not able to make video calls or receive any. Can any 1 tell me a way to do this...... My GSM Network supports Video calls
Hi All,
New guy here, and I was thinking about putting Android 1.5 on the Sprint TP2, rather than WM 6.5. (Again, new here, so I'm assuming that, once this HSPL is released for the CMDA, it could work equally well for WM or Android.)
I'm wondering if anyone has tried Android on the TP2 at all and, if so, your thoughts and opinions on this unusual pursuit?
Thanks in advance!
Sorry: CDMA
Not CMDA. I'm a little out of league here.
Sprint is CDMA and it is possible for that to happen. However, you would need an experienced cooker and most guys here are windows mobile guys.
Android is just now starting to fully work on the vogue and has been in the works for quiet some time. The original Touch Pro is still unable to run it. IF the TP2 will see androind, it will be a long time before that happens. Why not wait for the Hero if you really want it?
To be honest, it's because I adore the full qwerty keyboard. I have a really difficult time on touch-screen keys. Additionally, engadget's review of Hero rated its hardware to be a little underpowered for Android. I'm simply sold on the Rhodium.
Your right on it being underpowered. The problem is, porting it to WinMo is hard since they have 2 completely different kernals.
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To be honest, it's because I adore the full qwerty keyboard. I have a really difficult time on touch-screen keys. Additionally, engadget's review of Hero rated its hardware to be a little underpowered for Android. I'm simply sold on the Rhodium.
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Same reason I want the TP2. Never had WinMo device but that keyboard is the best I've seen on any Smartphone. I'd recommend putting a Sense UI theme on it, that's what I plan to do. Or PointSense Suite.
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To be honest, it's because I adore the full qwerty keyboard. I have a really difficult time on touch-screen keys. Additionally, engadget's review of Hero rated its hardware to be a little underpowered for Android. I'm simply sold on the Rhodium.
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A new firmware version has reportedly solve most of the issues with sluggishness. More than likely, the sprint version will have this at launch. It should be nice and snapy. The only things keeping me from waiting for this over getting the TP2 are the lack of a keyboard, the screen size/resolution, and the fact that it might not support SERO. It's okay though because I haven't bought it yet and I'll still be in my 30 day time window if I want to return the TP2 and get a Hero.
I'm really wanting Android, but it just hasn't gotten to the specs I want yet. However, I have to say that the Sense UI on it is about the most amazing thing I've ever seen on a phone. I know they say it's coming to WiMo, but I'm just not confident it will be that fast or as good as the android version.
A lot of phones really dont get optimized right away. Its kinda sad cause it brings the value down. Like the Hero is a great phone, but I geuss you need a ROM update for it to be optimized better.
The TP2 is actually extremely optimized right out the box since it has the same specs as the original, but it is a lot faster.
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the fact that it might not support SERO
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I've been told by several Sprint reps that Everything Plus (the new SERO and the name I was told my SERO plan already has) can be used on the TP2 and that the price will remain the same for me since I'm grandfathered at that price. We'll see what happens when I get it tomorrow and try to activate it with my current plan.
I have android running on my vogue, with is probably the most advanced port currently. We still do not have functional bluetooth, GPS does not have all functionality, and a small number of us (seems to be the cdma folks) have problems with intermittently not having SMS and phone calls show up. It is a great port, but still not ready for heavy everyday use if your phone has to be 100% reliable; many people do use it as there primary OS.
Just trying to say that even on the vogue we are not "there" yet, it is likely very possible on the TP2, but will take modification of the kernel and other files to adapt to your hardware, and won't be perfect.
How about the latest 1.6 donut on TP2? 1.6 supports the display resolution!
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http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/09/android-16-sdk-is-here.html
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How about the latest 1.6 donut on TP2? 1.6 supports the display resolution!
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http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/09/android-16-sdk-is-here.html
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it's a lot more than just resolution. dip into the multiple vogue android threads if you are compelled.
Man, I bet getting the memory map would help out the port a lot. Wish HTC would release that.
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I've been told by several Sprint reps that Everything Plus (the new SERO and the name I was told my SERO plan already has) can be used on the TP2 and that the price will remain the same for me since I'm grandfathered at that price. We'll see what happens when I get it tomorrow and try to activate it with my current plan.
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Are you talking about the $30 500 minute plan or the newer ESRP that is like $10 bucks cheaper than the normal plans? Either way, I know that the TP2 will work on it.
Donut!!
Supports CDMA and the higher resolutions... Please Devs work on this! I will pay money to have it! This will be the perfect combo of phone and OS. I hope this happens.
The biggest issue here is the bootloader. No one, that I am aware of, has modified a bootloader to allow the direct booting of Linux. Also, writing to the flash memory if I remember correctly was the other issue, but please do correct me if I am wrong on this aspect.
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A new firmware version has reportedly solve most of the issues with sluggishness. More than likely, the sprint version will have this at launch. It should be nice and snapy. The only things keeping me from waiting for this over getting the TP2 are the lack of a keyboard, the screen size/resolution, and the fact that it might not support SERO. It's okay though because I haven't bought it yet and I'll still be in my 30 day time window if I want to return the TP2 and get a Hero.
I'm really wanting Android, but it just hasn't gotten to the specs I want yet. However, I have to say that the Sense UI on it is about the most amazing thing I've ever seen on a phone. I know they say it's coming to WiMo, but I'm just not confident it will be that fast or as good as the android version.
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I agree COMPLETELY. Having spent some time with an iPhone, I have to say that onscreen keyboards, even in landscape mode, still suck.
Another thing I'd worry about with the Hero... not being able to install programs to a microSD card. I know that is an Android issue, not a Hero issue... if they could fix that, I might be able to get over the low resolution and lack of keyboard.
Where are they talking about putting Sense UI on Winmo 6.5?
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I agree COMPLETELY. Having spent some time with an iPhone, I have to say that onscreen keyboards, even in landscape mode, still suck.
Another thing I'd worry about with the Hero... not being able to install programs to a microSD card. I know that is an Android issue, not a Hero issue... if they could fix that, I might be able to get over the low resolution and lack of keyboard.
Where are they talking about putting Sense UI on Winmo 6.5?
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HTC said that Sense is on its way to WinMo via TF3d. Nothing new really. If you see the TF3d 2.5/2.6 setups, they resemble it a lot. Obviously, there are things that can't be the same (the way widgets and icons on the "desktop" appear, etc) due to OS limitations, but the core technology is being put into WinMo.
Installing programs to SD card is coming in 1.6. So no worries there.
I totally wish the Touch Pro 2 could run Android. My girlfriend has the HTC g1 and I love the application market. It's really awesome.
The keyboard is the major awesome feature about this phone. I used to have an Instink which is now EXTINCT and I could not deal with the crappy on-screen keyboard. I actually broke it once because I hated it so much. I plan on shooting this one Record it in full glory and post it on youtube for other poor Instinct users.
I would pay for an Android conversion. Totally.
As we have seen and heard all about the new HTC HD2, most of us really like this phone or love this phone. We want this phone for our own likes. Some like it for the looks, some like it just because it is the latest and greatest, some like it but want it to have a keyboard, and there are the ones that agree with all these reasons and more. Well here is another HTC phone that we can all talk about and send an E-Mail to [email protected] asking for SPRINT TO GET THIS PHONE! http://htcpedia.com/news/hd3-is-goin...-the-line.html Check this phone out and yu decide for yourself on how much you WANT this latest phone from HTC to come to SPRINT. Send an E-Mail to [email protected] telling him how much and how bad you want this phone, and wether or not you also would like it with or without a keyboard. We had a choice between the HTC TOUCH PRO & HTC TOUCH DIAMOND. Now we have a choice between the HTC TOUCH PRO2 & will later be able to also choose the HTC TOUCH DIAMOND2. If SPRINT can get the HTC HD2 & HTC HD2 PRO from HTC because enough of their customers are asking for these, then it also would be that we can have SPRINT convince HTC to manufacture both the HTC HD3 & HTC HD3 PRO. So, again I say let's all send an E-Mail to [email protected] telling him that we SPRINT CUSTOMERS WANT THESE PHONES!
But I don't want these phones. I just got my Touch Pro 2. I'm a wierdo in that I don't buy a new phone every 3 weeks in order to keep up with the latest and greatest. At some point I have to call it quits and stick with whatever it is I have for a while. If they build it, I will not come.
Another issue is that I very seriously doubt that emails left with some Sprint exec are going to convince HTC to build the HTC NON-AMATEUR HD-12 or whatever it is you want them to invent.
I am glad that you read this post. You are entitled to your opinion. What you don't realize is that we can talk to these people and if enough of us do that, then they will talk to the manufacture in responce to the mass requests from the customers "US" who are the reason for them to have their jobs and also to justify their positions.
Anyone that has an opinion about this matter wether positive or negitive is entitled to let that be heard. So, everyone please post your opinion here. If you agree with me, then just send an E-Mail to [email protected] and also let him know what you think. The people who disagree, you can also send an E-Mail and explain why you don't want that phone.
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What you don't realize is that we can talk to these people and if enough of us do that, then they will talk to the manufacture in responce to the mass requests from the customers "US" who are the reason for them to have their jobs and also to justify their positions.
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What you don't seem to realize, besides the fact that spelling things correctly is likely to make a better impression upon those executives you're trying to convince, are several factors:
- There is no evidence that Sprint has ever really listened to their user base irrespective of how vociferous or well-grounded their howls of protest may be. See, for example, the 21,352 threads about Windows Mobile 6.5 on the Touch Pro 2. Other examples include many months of disabled GPS on the Mogul, and so on.
- An executive who gets even several hundred emails requesting a particular extant device may very well presume that those represent a majority of everyone who wants it. They need to sell way more than that. The exec will listen to the company's research department, not emails.
- Emails demanding that one company somehow force another company to create and manufacture a device that does not currently exist are simply not going to carry any weight at all. At a level where developing a device costs millions, that's not how businesses work.
In short, I think this is, like every other internet petition, a complete and utter waste of time.
Worse, it distracts from current real issues with the phones we actually have in our hands. I'm not personally convinced that, for example, a letter-writing campaign about the broken Bluetooth on the Touch Pro 2, will do any good at all. However, it's a real problem with a real device for which we've paid real money and which has real consequences for for the day-to-day usability of the devices. Some would argue that it violates the implied contract of usability ("it has Bluetooth!") made when we bought the phones, since many people are unable to hang up through Bluetooth, obviating any real utility to the feature.
Any energy devoted to writing emails to Sprint execs would be better-spent asking them to live up to their obligations with respect to devices they're currently selling rather than non-existent devices that, based on past experience, they'll break and never fix in the future.
The sucessor to MY Touch Pro 2 must have Windows Mobile 7 out of the box and the speed to run it.
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The sucessor to MY Touch Pro 2 must have Windows Mobile 7 out of the box and the speed to run it.
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What? For some reason you harbor some doubt that if Sprint sells it with 6.5 with a promise of an upgrade they might not provide such an upgrade?
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But I don't want these phones. I just got my Touch Pro 2. I'm a wierdo in that I don't buy a new phone every 3 weeks in order to keep up with the latest and greatest. At some point I have to call it quits and stick with whatever it is I have for a while.
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I've owned the Motorola Select 2000e (literally the size of a brick), Motorola Timeport, Motorola Rizr z3, HTC Herald (Wing), HTC Touch Pro 2. Don't think I didn't want the devices in between them, but I agree, I'm eyeballing the HTC HD2 with double the horsepower of the Touch Pro 2 and God knows what the folks here on XDA will dream up for it but at some point you have to jump in with both feet and accept the reality like buying a PC the moment you do, your device is an instant relic. We also have to face the reality that whether contract, no contract and/or unlocked it won't be cheap. Yes, T-Mobile reduced the price of the TP2 from $349.99 to $269.99 to pave the way for the HD2 but at what cost. At what cost to any device as we move forward?
I have screen protectors, "Body Gloves" and 8GB memory cards; if I can't sell my devices in mint condition on eBay or Craigslist for what I paid for my devices I'll cry!!! I can sell my TP2 for $300; good luck selling my Dell Axim for even a $100.
Okay, the Snapdragon is twice as fast as my device, but what does that mean; twice as fast at what; opening my emails or my programs? I play Chess; now the day they make a program which I can give voice commands and type a document "vocally" as fast I type on a keyboard; then let's talk! Until then, I pout at what might have been.
I'm glad to see that there are both sides of this issue being discussed. I had also originally started out with a brick for a phone and had went smaller and smaller until the idea of using the phone for more than just making phone calls. I had the original HTC TOUCH and was happy with it for a while. I had quickly got very tired of using the onscreen keyboard, and wished that I could get a keyboard. I started looking for a new phone. The HTC TOUCH PRO was what I was going to get for an upgrade, so while I was waiting for the date that I could upgrade my phone I had found the HTC TOUCH PRO2 and really loved what I saw. At the time when I saw this, it was not even released from HTC anywhere. What I saw was leaked to the internet. there were people who also did not believe that would make it's way to market, but here it is. While waiting for my upgrade date, I had upgraded my wifes phone to the HTC TOUCH PRO. She was totally against that, but I did that for her anyway. Now she just loves it and can not live without having a keyboard on her phone. I told ter that I was going to upgrade my HTC TOUCH and she was not too happy with that, but once she had gotten used to her new phone, she was not against that idea except for one thing, the price. I told her that she did not have to worry since I would pay for it all from my side money, so then she was in agreement. My HTC TOUCH had quite a few problems with freezing and random rebooting, and some times I had to pull the battery to reboot it when it froze up. Then I had to have it replaced because it would not stop a continous loop of starting and shutting down, even if I had tried to do a hard reset. The second replacement would also do random reboots, but only once in a while no matter what, wether I was online or on a call. I was happy with getting rid of that phone. The very first day that the HTC TOUCH PRO2 became available from SPRINT, I had called and ordered it. I still have the original ROM on my phone and I have n
I still have the original ROM on my phone from SPRINT and I have not had the problems that most people are complaining about. I have downloaded some things to my phone to tweak it a little and to add eye candy. I use everything on my phone that it came with and what I downloaded except for 2 things, SPRINT TV & SPRINT MUSIC. I have no need for either of them at all. I download music and video's to my 16GB card and I stream video to my phone from my SLING BOX PRO. On average I stream anywhere between 10GB & 15GB of data every month. There are some things that I can not stand that ALL of the US carriers had requested from HTC. They had all requested that there be no FRONT FACING CAMERA, and that the FM RADIO be either disabled in the GSM modles and when the ROM for the CDMA models be written, that they wish for it to be excluded. They had ALL did this, so they can later SELL us their CRAP that we should have gotten just like the EUROPIAN & ASIAN models got right out of the box. According to HTC, they said that the carriers customers did NOT want those features. We know that is a load of crap. So, as I say LET'S STAND UP AND TELL AND DEMAND WHAT WE WANT! We don't have to just sit back and wait for whatever just happens to come our way. So, who ever your carrier is wether it be AT&T, SPRINT, T-MOBILE, or VERIZON, call them and speak up and be heard. If enough of us do just this, they will listen. That's why the HTC HD2 will be coming to the US and to T-Mobile first, because enough of us spoke up loud enough for us to be heard. So till nex time.......
gd761 said:
As we have seen and heard all about the new HTC HD2, most of us really like this phone or love this phone.
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TMO exclusive in the US.
I have an HTC Wizard 8125 and really like it. If I could easily upgrade from the WM 5 and control the font size when texting (reading and writing) and other screens, I would keep it. Will any of the phones out now do these things? This is not a work phone and I'm not a game player if that helps. Just a lot of email, internet and texting. Any suggestions for my next phone?
The best hardware keyboard device on this days is Rhodium
Definitely a great device for what you need
That's kinda pricey. anything in the $200 range?
Raphael/Touch Pro/Fuze on eBay.
I bought 2 Brand new ones off eBay for only $350 ($175 Each). Had to unlock them myself, but that wasn't a big deal.
They aren't TOO expensive. You might find a few cheap ones.
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That's kinda pricey. anything in the $200 range?
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maybe get a kaiser they are pretty cheap.
HTC Universal.
fuzes are horrible phones, i'd rather use a wallaby.
i have a kaiser, it's more functional in android than it is in WM.
i'd say go with a uni or athena. athena would be fun.
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640x480 vs 320x240
3.6" screen vs 2.8"
wifi/bluetooth/fullsized SDHC and 520mhz vs 200mhz.
I really love my uni. to the point of breaking one and buying another, despite having..a large amount of backup phones. the os runs in 320x240 so it's..better for fingertyping+large text.
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I have an HTC Wizard 8125 and really like it...
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the wizard was my first wm phone... i am hooked now... i miss the infrared and the tv remote app i had
cheapusenet said:
fuzes are horrible phones...
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fuzes are not bad... i have one that is my main device since jan/2009... no complaints... newer ones are faster, prettier... but like my fuze
in my experiance, they are. but hey i'd still be using wm2003 so what could i know right =D
wizard was my second. until its screen met with the hard wood floor of sonystyle.
also, uni has a 3.5 stereo jack. which is quite handy comapred to a 2.5/extusb on newer phones.
For a keyboard device you should consider & try the Rhodium!
So after looking at these, I have to admit I really like the Rhodium. I see one on ebay for $357. But it is TMobile and I am on Cincinnati Bell. Is it easy to unlock? I had to unlock my Wizard as it was from Cingular. The ad says that the 3g will only work on TMobile. Think that is true? or can that be hacked? Is that the right term?
if its unlocked you can use it personaly i have a wizard (3g) running WM6.5 and if you do its text and email and that stuff theres not much point in upgradeing unless you want to start doing more stuff
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So after looking at these, I have to admit I really like the Rhodium. I see one on ebay for $357. But it is TMobile and I am on Cincinnati Bell. Is it easy to unlock? I had to unlock my Wizard as it was from Cingular. The ad says that the 3g will only work on TMobile. Think that is true? or can that be hacked? Is that the right term?
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You can get the phone sim-unlocked for $10-15 through various online services, and then you can use it on CB just fine, they share the same 3G frequencies as T-Mobile. The ad just said "T-Mo only" because you can't use AT&T's 3G bands with it (you'd need the Tilt2 version of the Rhodium). So, just make sure the ones you're looking at online are the T-Mobile version, which are pretty easy to spot
I started off with Cingular 8125 too, and would still be using it if I hadn't lost it this past fall I went straight for the Tmo TP2, and have been extremely pleased with it.
Now, having said all that...before you spend any money I'd be sure to take some time searching the Wizard boards here to see if there's any way to do what you're looking for...I know at the very least that text size in SMS can be altered by using 3rd-party SMS clients. And, I know it's possible to get a WM 6.1 ROM onto the wizard, which might open up more options for you as well.