Questions about Manila 2D - General Questions and Answers

Hi everyone, I installed Manila 2D with update 20 on my AT&T Tilt (HTC 8925). I've noticed some weird things and I was wondering if these are items that the developers know about or if there are any fixes for them:
1) I have Windows Mobile 6.1 and my backlight settings keep reverting back to turn off the backlight on the screen after 10 seconds. I installed the backlight patch release by Microsofy or HTC (I forget who) and it fixed the problem. But since I installed Manila 2D it broke again. I tried re-running the backlight fix but it still won't help.
2) On my home screen, even if I clear my call history, I still get the "! Call History" indicator showing up. It just doesn't go away.
3) On the mail screen, I love how I can preview part of the message within the letter coming out of the envelope. However, I have 3 mail boxes/systems setup. First I have my device wirelessly receiving emails from my corporate Exchange Server. For all those emails, I do see the preview. But I also have a second email "mailbox" which gets my emails from my hotmail account. Those won't show me a preview, it simply says "Click to view message". I also get have the same problem with all emails from my 3rd mailbox, which retreives emails every 5 minutes from my Comcast account. Any ideas why I can only preview emails from my first Email Account?
4) I like the new Audio Manager and it's much nicer than the Windows Mobile one. BUT, I can only set my volume to 6 diferent settings! (using the main volume control). In the Windows Media version I can hit the up key on the dpad and set the volume from 0-100% with increments of 5% I think. But with the Manila 2D/HTC Audio Manager, the volume on some songs are too loud or too soft. I can't seem to find a good setting. Has anyone else noticed this lack of ability to set a good volume setting?
These are the main issues which annoy me. Aside from these I love the look and feel of Manila 2D - TouchFlo version. But because of issue 1 and 4 (backlight problem and music volume problem) I think I'll need to go back to the standard WM 6.1 and remove my Manila 2D. Has anyone experienced my issues above or have any info on fixes or if these are being looked at for next release?
Thanks a bunch!!!

i have to go pull my tilt back out, but let me see if i can recreate the problem you ask for help on and i will get back to you hopefully with an answer.

M2D answers:
1. Not sure what phone you have, or what patch you were referring to. I guess it is individually related to ROM or phone. Can you tell me what ROM/Phone it is?
2. The text 'Call History' is the default when you have no missed calls. When you do, it will have more info. If you hate it, and willing to lose this info, use M2DC and make any line you don't like disappear.
3. Most likely the messages on your Hotmail are HTML based, not text, or contains images. Try sending yourself a simple text message and see if it shows. if it doesn't , then your email account simply sends out a format M2D considers an image the viewer can not show. I don't have a Hotmail acct, but i would guess there is a way to set it up to simple text. Then it will work.
4. There are tools on this forum, allowing you to choose what player you want to use. I don't use them, but can recall at least one config tool to M2D that will allow you to change it to your taste.
I personally like M2D a lot. I think it is one of the best home plugins there are there, and I have tried the all. SPB, WAD , Home screen, HTC home, etc. none were so cool as M2D, but it is in the eye of the beholder, after all..

fix for backlight found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2928782&postcount=5171%22

another Manila 2D Question
thanks to gooniez28 for starting this thread, i have question before installing Manila 2D. i've seen so many Manila 2D madness here and i'd like to try it on my nike.
according to several informations on internet, i found that we have to flash our rom before installing the theme and this Manila needs more memory used in our device.
i'm so noob for flashing the rom and i'm affraid of its risk , this is my 1st windows mobile phone (and the only one that i have ), so can i instal it without flashing the rom? e.g. i have 68 MB free memory
thanks in advice
regards,
den

I never flashed my ROM. I actually didn't realize you were supposed to do that. (nor do I know how) I just copied the Manila 2D files to my TILT (HTC 8925) and ran them to install Manila 2D. You know, that may be the reason that every time I turn on my phone, it asks me to click in the middle of the screen to load TouchFlo Manila 2D. I wonder if I wouldn't have to do this if I flash my ROM...

Right now as far as i understand manilla only supports one email account at a time

Related

WM6 ROM - Issues and compatibility list - please contribute...

Hi everybody,
I got quite annoyed by having to read several threads on the new WM6 ROM with the same newbie questions on and on. It blows the threads and makes it a neverending story to get the information most of us are looking for:
What are the issues with the new ROM - do the integrated apps and features work and which third party apps work
That's why I started this new thread! I already picked the information posted in the other threads - let's get together and post here answers (and please: NO newbie questions) to the above topics, so we don't have to read all the "Mum, I bricked my new toy!" stuff...
Here the infos I already found:
Issues with ROM/integrated apps/features:
no MMS, but ArcSoftMMS can be installed
camera app "hidden": copy file camera.lnk from /windows to /windows/start menu/programs (with Total Commander you will see it. Just view properties and uncheck "hidden")
you need AS 4.5 to sync
Apps that work:
wisbar advance 2.7.0.2
batterystatus 0.0.4.200 (apart from the signal strength)
phonealarm 1.58 full
todayagenda 0.9.22
total commander
aekmap
coolcamera (replacing the built-in one which is as previously
mentioned inside the /Windows folder)
oxios closeapps
wm5newmenu
WM5Torage
Smartskey
registry editor SEEMS to work havent had any crashes since i tweaked some things. It complains about it not being compatible but seems to do what its told.
Navizon
BT GPS (No GPS under Settings though)
SPB PocketPLus
SPB Backup
Arcsoft MMS
Apps that don't work:
slingplayer
xbar
Cons:
- SLOWER than AKU 3.3
- Misses OmapClock
- Barebones
- Sounds are missing
- Bluetooth seems shaky
- Error reporting like XP (yuk)
- Too many nublets seem to be delving into this ROM, ROM feels tainted, takes shower and cries uncontrollably
Pros:
- Prettier than 3.3 (to some degree)
- Faster than stock
- GPS works flawlessly
- Exchange wizard on setup screens
- You can skip the stupid Dr meeting setup screen
All in all, it's in an infant state. Don't use it for production. Wait a few weeks and someone will cook up a masterpiece. If you have had the pleasure of seeing this ROM, you are looking at the canvas of one soon-to-be masterpiece. I bet you that the cooked ROM product to come out of this ROM will be the end-all...
Did you guys fine the Internet Calling appliation that comes with the ROM worked? Mine always reports "Not Available".
just add coreplayer as workin
batterystatus plus 1.04 beta2 is actually workin despite the error message on install, after start not showin up fully, switching the rows on and off helps only thing not workin are free space on storage card and activating wifi in the taskbar
tman 0.9.5 is workin but doesnt fit the skin too well
someone know where to get the sms backup app from farias and molskis roms?? only thing missing to happyness
jonjoyner83 said:
Cons:
- SLOWER than AKU 3.3
- Misses OmapClock
- Barebones
- Sounds are missing
- Bluetooth seems shaky
- Error reporting like XP (yuk)
- Too many nublets seem to be delving into this ROM, ROM feels tainted, takes shower and cries uncontrollably
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Click to collapse
- slower? i don't think so
- omapclock is a program developed by 3rd parts. Install it if you need it.
- barebones: that's true
- which sounds are you missing? Rings? Rings are not provided by MS. Install the rings you like if you want.
- Bluetooth: haven't tried it
- Error reporting: it was present in wm5 too. Disable it.
- ???
Pros:
- Prettier than 3.3 (to some degree)
- Faster than stock
- GPS works flawlessly
- Exchange wizard on setup screens
- You can skip the stupid Dr meeting setup screen
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I agree and also raise:
- BT PAN (haven't tried it but it should be there)
- HTML Email
- Better designed Message application (accounts are more easily reached)
- different notification icons for text or email msgs
- Remote Desktop: much better than terminal services client
- Smartdial included in phone application. No more HTC's external smartdial app.
- Improved contacts application
I know this rom is not perfect/complete but it is really a gooooood starting point!
IMHO
About your cons:
some more issues for me:
internet calling: can't figure out how to use it
html email: my mail is not showing the html
ip-rob said:
Did you guys fine the Internet Calling appliation that comes with the ROM worked? Mine always reports "Not Available".
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I'm not sure about how internet calling works but i think it is somehow related to msn live services.
# camera app "hidden": copy file camera.lnk from /windows to /windows/start menu/programs (with Total Commander you will see it. Just view properties and uncheck "hidden")
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Then reboot (reset will make camera visible in button settings)
After that you can assign "button 3" (the camera button) with the camera.lnk:
Settings>Buttons and select button 3 and point to "camera"
Now you can shoot your pictures
risidoro said:
I'm not sure about how internet calling works but i think it is somehow related to msn live services.
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it's supposed to be a SIP standard client. unfortunately i don't have the rom installed so can't really help a lot - just google a bit on "SIP" and you will find out more...
Apps that work:
IGO 2006 (Beta 10-01-2007)
VJvolubilius
Mortscript
PHM tools
PocketPC Installer (Nice for experiments like this )
What doesn't work:
USING Pim.vol from older AKU (2.23 eg.) will cause contacts to die..
Regarding errors (reporting):
Just switch them off:
settings>system>error reporting
risidoro said:
- which sounds are you missing? Rings? Rings are not provided by MS. Install the rings you like if you want.
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risidoro, the sounds are missing when pressing the start button and things like pop up menus when you tap and hold etc... I did raise this in the main thread but no one else commented so i presumed it was just me
yes those sounds are missing for me as well
Hold left button for start not working.
Hold right button for OK not working
When synchronizing using EDGE, I get asked if I want to proceed because I'm roaming- never seen this before.
Working apps:
omapclock & omapclock plus
Resco Explorer 5.42 - registry & ftp plugin
Resco Picture Viewer 6
LVM TopBat
MS Reader
ISSUE:
It seems that battery level is not working right!
I had approx 78% power left before I powered down, removed battery (to replace SIM) and start up again.
Suddenly I noticed the level was up to 99% again :S
(the wizard was not connected through USB or attached to charger at that time)
Swifty said:
risidoro, the sounds are missing when pressing the start button and things like pop up menus when you tap and hold etc... I did raise this in the main thread but no one else commented so i presumed it was just me
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Just a setting:
Settings> sounds & notifications > select "Screen taps"
Can someone please describe how to make Arcsoft MMS Composer working? I did some of my research and made following:
1. I downloaded the app from http://qtekworld.free.fr/bepe/OEM/ArcsoftMMS
2. I copied necessary files to Windows directory and regged the *.rgu file.
3. I deleted templates, pictures, sounds and videos, cuz' I don't need them.
4. After a rebot a "MMS Configuration" displays under Messaging > Menu. I enter all settings. Everything fine 'till here.
5. BUT there is no MMS folder in Messagging!??!?! So there is no way to write a new MMS??
Please help!
Greetings
just maybe you deleted the default template and stuff ?
sim contact
I dont see a sim contact in this room. sim manager also nothing see in my phone card. any solutions?
I copied all templates, pictures and stuff for Arcsoft MMS back, but still no work

Funman v.1 Faria Base Rom

IMPORTANT
You MUST have an IPL and SPL at 2.xx or higher (BOTH not just one or the other).
The Phone NEEDS to be CID unlocked or it will not flash correcly​
Well I have been keeping my Faria Base Rom to my self uptill now. But I have run out of ideas what I can do to it.
Well I have made my version that is is simple but has some very usful apps.
I would like to have 3-5 People test out for me and tell me what can be changed, if it is ok like I am thinking of maybe putting it out there for people to play with. But it all depends on the poeple that test it.
So my ROM is for someone that would like a FAST and stable rom that has just what is needed.
Rom version; 2.18.0.0
Build aku 15341 aku.4.0.0.01 WWE
Radio version recommended 2.19
Splash screen Funman v.1
31Mb Free Ram on boot
43Mb Free File space
Whats in the Rom :-
Apps (Program)
Total Commander 2.5PB2
dotFred TaskManager 2.7
Screen Capture
Pocket RAR 3.60
NotePad
Gotan (Like Bubble Breaker, but alittle longer)
Adobe Reader LE v.2.0
Windows Live Messager
Windows Live v.10.6.0026.1400
Live Search v.1.0.2592.31374 (Linked with Google setup, not Mircosoft)
Apps (Settings)
Check Notifications v.1.9
PIM Backup v.1.9.0.0
SMS Notifier v.1.2
SynchroTime v.0.94
HTC X-Button
Other
Comm manger 10 button is installed
Startclean
Bluetooth in Start Menu
Office folder taken from Start Menu to Programs
Added a default SMS MP3
Default Set to UK settings
Reg Hacks
Moved IE cashe to SD card
Scroll bars are thinner
System Sounds are turned off by defalut
Power Batt set to 5mins
Power External set to 5mins
Backlight set to 2nd lowest, batt 5mins turnoff, External 5mins turnoff
Cleartype on both port and lang
Text size to 2nd lowest
Taken out of the ROM
All Themes
All Wav, MP3, and any other useless media files (for Ringer, just place a mp3 in My Documents on your phone or in your card). Please note that you will see the 3 default, but these do not work
MMS items (Will be doing two ways, one with, one without) I don't have these in by default as when I sync I get them all.
Old Keyboard and replaced with mUn Keyboard Skin
Old PhonePad and replaced
SAP
SIMManger
Autoupdate
VoIP
Voicecommand
Transcriber
Java manager
With this Rom you should not have any problems with speed, It runs fast and when using BS it will run faster, but not really used it so dont know if your phone will smoke!!
Download link
Will come soon​
........................................................
Closed for now!!! Need to look at something! Dont know when I will have the time to look at again!​
Tester please complete below:-
Top 10 Good points of the Rom
Top 10 Bad points of the Rom
Apps found useful
Apps no use for
Volunteer
I volunteer... gladly... my basic requirements are working outlook and windows live... and windows media player... i don't need mms... lemme know if this suits your rom
Hey Funman!
Good job [email protected]@
Like to try it out during my transition to the new one build!
I'm ok and in the position....
Let me know if I can testify for ya!
Take care!
Hey funman your rom looks great.
I can test for you. Let me know.
Bye.
Rom looks Great... Def willing to test this puppy!!
Hey your roms looks great to me.
So I volunteer...
Downloading now will report back!!!
Thanks
suggestions
I have got 31mb free ram on boot.
It is quite fast.
Suggestion
What to ADD:
New office2k7
New HTCtask manager 1.5
Audio manager
Java manager
New Sim manager
And Smartskey(it is one of the most useful application)
What to remove:
Customer Feedback
Error repoting
(I think these two are the most unuseful thing.)
Thanks, and there is no extended rom, and if you plan one then move it windows folder for G4 support.
samy.3660 said:
I have got 31mb free ram on boot.
It is quite fast.
Suggestion
What to ADD:
New office2k7
New HTCtask manager 1.5
Audio manager
Java manager
New Sim manager
And Smartskey(it is one of the most useful application)
What to remove:
Customer Feedback
Error repoting
(I think these two are the most unuseful thing.)
Thanks, and there is no extended rom, and if you plan one then move it windows folder for G4 support.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Java manager (Left out as my Rom is made for the person that like min but useful, and this is not useful!!!)
New Sim manager (Took out as pointless, as with pimbackup on the phone, you dont need to save your contacts tot he SIMcard)
And Smartskey(it is one of the most useful application) I left it ou as it is not need!!! But you do have the button mapping, but i would not use it for boasting the CPU
New office2k7 Thought about this, and i did put itin there, but took it out again as the new one does not give much yet, as 2007 is not so widly used for the lose of rom space!!!
New HTCtask manager 1.5 Well did not know of this update, so i guess i could add it Do you know what is better?
Well I did not add the extended rom for that reason!!! So maybe will have to put the MMS stuff back in to the ROM
I think its bricked...
It finished flashing... went off... n now it wont start back up again....
Removed the battery and put it back in... its come on now... whew!! it sure gave me a scare at that point...
love the splash screens....
here we go with the set up...
Customising now... will update one its done...
its fast for sure...
Lotsa stuff i dont need... t zones... tmobile customisation...
CPU usage stays low between 1 - 3%. Will update battery drain once it settles...
One can get rid of error reporting and autoupdate... both are useless tools for a custom ROM
Have always had a problem with memory leak and suspect its because of tmail.exe... i use a lot of mail... outlook, windows live and sms put together would easily be more than 200 a day... this seems to be leaking as well... am already down to 25mb within an hour but that culd be because its updating my outlook mail... havent set up windows live yet...
more updates will follow in the morning... my wife's gonna lock the room door from inside anytime now...:-/
rajivshastri said:
Lotsa stuff i dont need... t zones... tmobile customisation...
CPU usage stays low between 1 - 3%. Will update battery drain once it settles...
One can get rid of error reporting and autoupdate... both are useless tools for a custom ROM
Have always had a problem with memory leak and suspect its because of tmail.exe... i use a lot of mail... outlook, windows live and sms put together would easily be more than 200 a day... this seems to be leaking as well... am already down to 25mb within an hour but that culd be because its updating my outlook mail... havent set up windows live yet...
more updates will follow in the morning... my wife's gonna lock the room door from inside anytime now...:-/
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Ya the t-mobile stuff is just for this!!! If it gets lt out it will not have this!!! And t-zones is not in the rom!
Runs Great, But Phone Ringers Are Corrupted On My End Which Is No Biggy Man. T-Zones Dont Need To Be In There Cuz For Some Reason It No Longer Works Anymore. Might be the reason because T-Mobile Upgraded There New T-Zones For HTC Wing But Im Not Sure Just Know That When you Check Your Account It Wont let you. Another One you Should Add Musicplayer Today For Alittle Bonus And Add The new HTC Taskmanager Like Everyone Is Suggesting. Just So it Could Look Like A Stocked T-mobile Phone. I Love The Splash Screens. Really Fast But There Is A Battery Drain I Noticed But Might Be Because I have to let the battery drain first cuz I flashed. It Is At 50% And I dont have no push email, GPRS, Internet,Wifi, Or Bluetooth Running. I Would Hate To see when I Use Them It would Of Probably Already Been Dead! I Also havent Installed Any Program Either Everything Is Still Stocked. Also Recommend You Put Some Sort Of Battery Task On The Today Screen Like HTC HomePlug So You Can Check your Battery Life. But Pretty Much After That Runs Great Keep up The Good Job. I Will Still Monitor The Battery Situation More!
First view
Hey Funman!
Here it goes to my results...
Top 10 Good points of the Rom
I liked the way you cooked!.
Clean, simple and fast.
It really is and I still didn't have to overclock! Nice!
Got 43.40 of storage and 30.02 of program memory. Ok for me.
Good Customizations like text reduced and folders
Top 10 Bad points of the Rom
Customer feedback and Error reporting could be really removed as it really means nothing.
Phone settings seems to be not working properly. When I tried to change ring tone and clicked OK button, I got nothing. I still kept on that settings tab instead of back to today screen. I tried several times without luck. But I think is just a little thing coz you may get away from that just clicking on today icon and choose today itself.
Noticed duplicated task manager: programs\accessories\settings and in start\settings\system folder.
Apps found useful
Oxios
Windows Live and Search
Adobe Reader LE
Apps no use for
Check notifications.
SMS notifier. I like others like secretary mobile but it can be fine.
Total commander. I prefer Resco Explorer
Registry Editor. I prefer use Resco 2007 built in version
In an overall and as my first impression, I loved it! You did a very custom ROM without a lot of craps and just cooking basic and usefull apps. Good job.
I'll keep going little more now installing my apps. Let you know what happened after that!
Great day Funman!
Regards
funman said:
Java manager (Left out as my Rom is made for the person that like min but useful, and this is not useful!!!)
New Sim manager (Took out as pointless, as with pimbackup on the phone, you dont need to save your contacts tot he SIMcard)
And Smartskey(it is one of the most useful application) I left it ou as it is not need!!! But you do have the button mapping, but i would not use it for boasting the CPU
New office2k7 Thought about this, and i did put itin there, but took it out again as the new one does not give much yet, as 2007 is not so widly used for the lose of rom space!!!
New HTCtask manager 1.5 Well did not know of this update, so i guess i could add it Do you know what is better?
Well I did not add the extended rom for that reason!!! So maybe will have to put the MMS stuff back in to the ROM
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK
But Java manager is useful as sim manager, not at the time but may be required in future coz there will be programs that will require java and same for Sim manager. But this is your choice, im just trying to make your rom perfect and complete.
And for new X button go here
im using it and it is very good no bugs.
And office2k7 is also essential coz there are new format (for eg: docx) which will run on new word only.
And yes there are two shortcut of taskmanager(dotfred), one is in programs/accessories/settings and other in settings/system.
Thanks
LiQuiD FrEeZe said:
Runs Great, But Phone Ringers Are Corrupted On My End Which Is No Biggy Man. T-Zones Dont Need To Be In There Cuz For Some Reason It No Longer Works Anymore. Might be the reason because T-Mobile Upgraded There New T-Zones For HTC Wing But Im Not Sure Just Know That When you Check Your Account It Wont let you. Another One you Should Add Musicplayer Today For Alittle Bonus And Add The new HTC Taskmanager Like Everyone Is Suggesting. Just So it Could Look Like A Stocked T-mobile Phone. I Love The Splash Screens. Really Fast But There Is A Battery Drain I Noticed But Might Be Because I have to let the battery drain first cuz I flashed. It Is At 50% And I dont have no push email, GPRS, Internet,Wifi, Or Bluetooth Running. I Would Hate To see when I Use Them It would Of Probably Already Been Dead! I Also havent Installed Any Program Either Everything Is Still Stocked. Also Recommend You Put Some Sort Of Battery Task On The Today Screen Like HTC HomePlug So You Can Check your Battery Life. But Pretty Much After That Runs Great Keep up The Good Job. I Will Still Monitor The Battery Situation More!
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Where you heck are you seeing t-zones? IT is not in the rom!!! I have this running on my phone right now!!!
-No T-Zones,
-No Ring tones as I said above (just place a ring tone on your card in my documnets)
-Do you have a extended rom installed, as this is your problem with the batt drain!
I think i need to pull the rom and look at a coup-le of things, cus you should not be seeing t-zones for one thing! And i might move the extention to windows folder then you dont have the batt drain problem!
p.s Task manger is there two times out of design!
update: Ok I see why you had the problems with the ring tone!!! Cus you have not put a MP3 in your my documnet folder!!! The OS has put the default ones in but there are not in the rom!!! It must be a reg key or some thing I will look into getting rid! Well i looked at the ringtoens and i think the 3 defaults must be hard coded as i have not been able to find any reg keys that go with them.
epimazzo said:
Hey Funman!
Here it goes to my results...
Top 10 Good points of the Rom
I liked the way you cooked!.
Clean, simple and fast.
It really is and I still didn't have to overclock! Nice!
Got 43.40 of storage and 30.02 of program memory. Ok for me.
Good Customizations like text reduced and folders
Top 10 Bad points of the Rom
Customer feedback and Error reporting could be really removed as it really means nothing.
Phone settings seems to be not working properly. When I tried to change ring tone and clicked OK button, I got nothing. I still kept on that settings tab instead of back to today screen. I tried several times without luck. But I think is just a little thing coz you may get away from that just clicking on today icon and choose today itself.
Noticed duplicated task manager: programs\accessories\settings and in start\settings\system folder.
Apps found useful
Oxios
Windows Live and Search
Adobe Reader LE
Apps no use for
Check notifications.
SMS notifier. I like others like secretary mobile but it can be fine.
Total commander. I prefer Resco Explorer
Registry Editor. I prefer use Resco 2007 built in version
In an overall and as my first impression, I loved it! You did a very custom ROM without a lot of craps and just cooking basic and usefull apps. Good job.
I'll keep going little more now installing my apps. Let you know what happened after that!
Great day Funman!
Regards
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Oxios ? Ok i cant remeber what this is?
Please can you give me screen shots of T-zones then i can see where you are seeing it!
Okay last night i flashed my Wizard.
This weekend we have Whitsunday festival overhere.
So give me sometime to test your rom.
I will post my findings tommorrow.

a newer and improved vox?

i got my vox a month ago and i love the design. probably the only smartphone design out there that looks as good as it does. But the problem i'm having with it is the performance level...i've had it lock up on me, sometimes it takes forever to load a simple task such as my text messages. I love the phone design to death, is there a phone that keeps this slick design but performs just as well? I know htc released a s730, but really? lol come on, its bigger, contains the same amount of ram, faster processor but still...
Or is it time i move to a pocket pc? do they perform better than smartphones? Or am i looking at this entirely from the wrong view, is it windows mobile thats causing this? is there away i could change the OS installed, maybe like the OS pocketpc's run? I'm not new to all this, but I would like some input and what everyones feeling, or if anyone is feeling the way I am. thanks again guys, looking forward to your responses
p.s. if you have any recommendations on devices i should look at, please let me know cause I might start looking for something new
One solution is to overclock your vox.
For me is very frustrating, slow opening of new SMS, too!
I don't know any other way to speed up your device.
matrix77 said:
One solution is to overclock your vox.
For me is very frustrating, slow opening of new SMS, too!
I don't know any other way to speed up your device.
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ya i have it overclocked to 252 mhz, there is a improvement but why does it take so long to send a sms? not to mention the amount of steps that need to be taken to do so, open messaging, text messages, new, have to open contact list (which takes a while) then select a contact, select their mobile number, hit enter, then finally start typing.
I was looking at the iphone, and some reviews off youtube, the phone seems really responsive and fast, anyone with any suggestions? wondering if that might be a good step up?
You can start typing the name you want to write to on homescreen so the contact shows up. Then with left/right arrows select SMS, when you open it it goes directly to sending a SMS to this contact, same applies to the phone book and it will stay that way.
frauhottelmann said:
You can start typing the name you want to write to on homescreen so the contact shows up. Then with left/right arrows select SMS, when you open it it goes directly to sending a SMS to this contact, same applies to the phone book and it will stay that way.
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wow that is alot faster! didnt know that, makes texting a whole lot faster. guess i've been doing it the long way, hence the bitter taste its left. question, is windows mobile operating system more efficient than what the pocketpcs have installed?
For me that's really the most interesting thing in the iPhone, the fact that its interface is so fluid, everything seem to load fast . It seems really less frustrating to use. The only problem for me is that it is not as easy to tweak it as is windows mobile. Too bad windows mobile 7 still is a long time ahead..
But at least Windows Mobile 6.1 is due for the first quarter 08, let's hope that it will bring some improvements!
The thing about the MacOS X and the iPhone is that it's only designed for a couple devices, so it's very customized for these. Windows and Windows Mobile is made for thousands of different machines, so problems are just inevitable.
Speed improvements would be great indeed But my hopes are not very high
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Speed improvements would be great indeed But my hopes are not very high
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i think we've peaked in terms of performance and speed with the vox, the iphone GUI is amazing not to mention how flawlessy it flows from one application to another. Only thing I can give iphone a hard time for is it doenst seem homebrew friendly.
So that being said, would you guys recommend/suggest a vox ->iphone upgrade? or just stick with the vox?
Sick with the Vox and try the lates official HTC ROM, it's available on the XDA-developers ftp site. I fashed my Vox to it yesterday and it is alot faster than the original Vox ROM and is slightly smaller aswell leaving more RAM free to install apps like facade and PhoneAlarm.
Roland
I also didn't like how long it took to open messaging and start a new text message. Its the main reason I overclocked my s710. Here's a couple of other things that I came across while trying to improve messaging speed. Working in combination, they made a huge difference for me:
1. overclocked to 252mhz
2. place a shortcut in your \windows\startup folder with the following commands:
58#"\Program Files\load.exe" -hide "\Windows\tmail.exe"
81#"\Program Files\load.exe" -hide "\Windows\tmail.exe" -service "SMS" -to ""-body""
Opens the messaging app in the background on startup. Opens a new blank text message on startup. Requires load.exe to be able to open in the background. Since it is already open in the background, you can access messaging instantly. Whatever method you choose to open a new text message will also be faster since their is already a blank open text message in the background.
3. I like the method mentioned above of typing the contact then selecting Send Text Message. Another method that is just as fast is to create a shortcut to your blank open text message and place it in your Program Files folder (or wherever, I have mine as a shortcut in my facade launcher bar). The shortcut contains the same new text message command as above (just without using load.exe to hide it in the background):
49#"\Windows\tmail.exe" -service "SMS" -to ""-body""
Opening this brings you directly to your blank text message, just select your contact and start typing.
Hope this helps!
wow! god thats amazing, loads instantly :|! and its even more amazing that your a junior member, did you read this somewhere? if not, cudos to you, thanks a lot loving that small tweak ALOT! appreciate it. hopefully more people read this.
Wish there was a program that ran more tweaks to help smartphones performance
After figuring out tmail.exe was the messaging app, I kinda just played around with that and load.exe (found in "how to pimp your s710" thread on Modaco.com) to see what would happen. After that I came accross that command to open a new blank text message on some random tweaks page. Had to try it out with load.exe too. Glad I did . Simple stuff can make a big difference. My last phone was a simple Nokia 6133 flip, and I could access text messaging or a new text message within a second of opening the phone...not really that important, but I wanted that streamlined access to messaging with the s710. I think these little tweaks make it pretty close.
i've created the shortcut, but for some reason it doens't load....my question is when i tried to run tmail manually from file explorer it loads up the messaging center, and not straight into text messages (option 1 of the text messaging center). now i was curious if theres a way we can get text messaging loaded directly
now I get what you were saying in your PM, you want to go directly to the text messaging section of tmail.exe. Try this:
35#"\Windows\tmail.exe" -service "SMS"
Put this in a shortcut. When you open it, it should take you to your text messages.
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now I get what you were saying in your PM, you want to go directly to the text messaging section of tmail.exe. Try this:
35#"\Windows\tmail.exe" -service "SMS"
Put this in a shortcut. When you open it, it should take you to your text messages.
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perfect thanks , will try it and let you know. thanks again

Flashing + UC + Manilla = Lockups

Hey all,
I have a very crazy provisioning script, this thing installs all my apps, moves start menu items, sets up e-mail, sets up network connections, and does a whole buttload of customizations (I am willing to share if you like) and I noticed that any app that needs to shutdown/access outlook during the script locks the phone because manila is running in the background. Even windows Livesearch asks to shut down outlook, but then the phone locks because i guess the manila process wont let it go. I havent tried PIM backup/restore with manila running, but I wanted to share my findings with everyone incase people were having problems.
To get around this, I have a part of my SDCONFIG that enables the phone so I can go to the today settings and turn off manila for the rest of the install.
I'd love to see a reply to this thread and see if anyone has found a workaround other than what I do.
Maybe some chefs can come up with some ideas like disabling manila before customizations begin and then turning it on in the registry before a reboot or something like that. We've got some great minds here im sure we can think of something!
~Rick
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Hey all,
I have a very crazy provisioning script, this thing installs all my apps, moves start menu items, sets up e-mail, sets up network connections, and does a whole buttload of customizations (I am willing to share if you like) and I noticed that any app that needs to shutdown/access outlook during the script locks the phone because manila is running in the background. Even windows Livesearch asks to shut down outlook, but then the phone locks because i guess the manila process wont let it go. I havent tried PIM backup/restore with manila running, but I wanted to share my findings with everyone incase people were having problems.
To get around this, I have a part of my SDCONFIG that enables the phone so I can go to the today settings and turn off manila for the rest of the install.
I'd love to see a reply to this thread and see if anyone has found a workaround other than what I do.
Maybe some chefs can come up with some ideas like disabling manila before customizations begin and then turning it on in the registry before a reboot or something like that. We've got some great minds here im sure we can think of something!
~Rick
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Maybe the chef when cooked in manilla can add reg key to disable at first boot, and then in the preconfig add a reg key to enable at next boot.
suggest it to the chef.
Either way man, Good disscussion!! and good luck
I'll have to test this in my roms to see if it's possible
Yah thats what I was thinking, only thing is that on my phone, my UC script reboots @ the end. So maybe they can just not have manila enabled my default then during the UC script it enables it in the registry after the boot. its pretty easy I have my UC script disable all of the default today items using the app I wrote TodayDisabler, then it goes into the reg and enables just the today plugins I typicaly use (need to update to use manila instead of HTC home and the others i use)

A Few Noob Questions

Hello,
I am a new AT&T Fuze owner and new in general to Windows Mobile "Professional". (Had a Symbian 60 Device Previously) I have been doing extensive reading and researching to figure out how to accomplish my goals but I keep running into dead ends. I have been searching forums and Google but I find that most information is formatted for people that have been in the community for a long time and understand all of the jargon. There seems to be so many flavors of windows and platforms that it makes my head spin and I also find that words like Smartphone, Pocket PC, Window CE, etc.. are thrown around very loosely.
Sorry for the preamble. Here is what I know so far.
Device = AT&T Fuze
CE OS 5.2.19971 (Build 19971.1.2.6)
CID = HTC_P4600 (Not listed in the WIKI here)
ROM = 1.95.502..5 WWE (10/20/08)
Radio = 1.02.25.32
Protocol = 52.39c.25.22h
First I was wondering if there was a positive way of knowing if a certain piece of software will work with my device and what that spec would be. Like does it go by windows version, phone version, both? Or at least some general rules of thumb what to take note of before trying a piece of software. (If it was designed for or works on other flavors of Raphael is it safe to try?)
My biggest problem at the moment is I can't seem to install anything anymore. I am getting a message about unsigned cabs or files missing. I'm hoping this wasn't something I did but it's a possibility. Some software "PPCPimBackup.exe" will still install but most won't like "Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab". I even tried to make a simple .cab using CeRegEditor to adjust the city string for the weather tab in TF3D. Any help here would be most appreciated. I am very weary of all these so called "unlockers" out there and even read a thread here where someone bricked their device by installing the wrong software for the device.
Is the Fuze the same as the Diamond? (They look identical)
What is the preferred way to back up the entire device or is it even possible with standard software? Most of what I found backs up PIM info.
When a program (Taskmanager 3.1) says to minimize, where does it go? How do you bring it back to the foreground or do you have to install a taskbar manager?
I actually have more I want to ask but that probably wouldn't be prudent. I think if I could help myself better once I understand what software I can and can't use with my phone.
Many thanks in advance and apologize for noobing up your forum =P
Eidolen
I'll try to answer some of your questions.
1) Normally, software will say windows mobile 5 or 6 as a requirement along with maybe .Net Framework. If it's for Windows Mobile most likely it'll work. Just have to try it and see.
2) Your programs are probably not installing because you may not have the required .Net Framework. I know Advance Config requires .Net Framework 3.5. So if you don't have it, install it. You can find it here or from Microsoft's website. You need the Windows CE or Compact version.
3) The Fuze is similar to the Diamond but don't go trying to install ROMs that are made for the Diamond. Use the ones in the Raphael forums.
4) If you want to backup your entire device, use a program such as Sprite Backup. This will make a full backup of entire system excluding ROM. However, if you want to do a restore, you need to make sure you have the same ROM installed, if not, it will create a lot of problems.
5) With TaskManager, when you minimize it just continues to run in the background. Program is still loaded and taking up memory/etc. Similar to when you minimize something in Windows. To bring it back, you can view the TaskManager and restore to foreground.
Hope that helps somewhat.
Wow,
Thanks you for the quick and non condescending reply. I've been surfing more since I posted and hopefully I could get you to elaborate on a few things.
2) Your programs are probably not installing because you may not have the required .Net Framework. I know Advance Config requires .Net Framework 3.5. So if you don't have it, install it. You can find it here or from Microsoft's website. You need the Windows CE or Compact version.
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I did the .Net install and it went without a hitch but still no joy. I noticed on the authors support forums that others are having the same problem but no clear solution has been posted. /Sigh
I was thinking I needed to follow a procedure similar to the one listed here where you have to install a certificate and make some policy changes in the registry but since I can't find any info specifically for the Fuze I haven't done anything yet other than download the certificate that was linked in that post.
I should mention I am not a complete computer illiterate, and am fully comfortable with the registry and even more advanced techniques if necessary. I should also mention that I don't plan on replacing my rom at all. Just want to keep it to basic reg hacks, software installs, and some theming once I get things working the way I want.
I did already change one registry policy key (0000101a) to "1" from a thread I found on these forums, as it is something easily changed back but of course it did not help.
4) If you want to backup your entire device, use a program such as Sprite Backup. This will make a full backup of entire system excluding ROM. However, if you want to do a restore, you need to make sure you have the same ROM installed, if not, it will create a lot of problems.
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Thanks, I will check this out. Sounds like exactly what I was looking for.
5) With TaskManager, when you minimize it just continues to run in the background. Program is still loaded and taking up memory/etc. Similar to when you minimize something in Windows. To bring it back, you can view the TaskManager and restore to foreground.
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I understand what you said but what I was trying to figure out is how to recall it from the background. It doesn't show up in the TF3D task list when it's minimized so I was wondering if you had to click on the task bar or do some certain trick to bring it to the fore-front. The ability to move between programs easily is my biggest gripe so far as I seem to have to open and close the keyboard, hit home or back a lot to move around. I would love the ability to hit some hot key or some secret spot on the screen to launch taskmanager and then I could use it to go to whatever program I wanted.
I have seen a few bugs in TM_3.1 that cause crashes, but it is an awesome program and hopefully the developer will keep working out the bugs. If there is another program you would recommend that accomplished the same type of functionality I'd be interested in trying it out.
Thanks again for your friendly help.
Eidolen
Just looked at the contents of that cab referenced from that link I posted. It is just a Setup.xml file with the following contents.
<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="SecurityPolicy">
<parm name="4119" value="144"/>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
Any thoughts?
As for .Net, the following is from Modaco, and I found that it worked like a charm:
How to install and use .NET Compact Framework 3.5
If you're a developer or have knowledge of .net Compact Framework, you'll be aware that version 3.5 has shipped. You'll be aware that it offers a number of enhancements in features, stability and performance, and you'll likely also know that it provides full backwards compatability with previous versions of the Compact Framework. What you may NOT know is that when CF 3.5 is installed on a device, applications that target previous versions of the Compact Framework will continue to run against the old versions, and 3.5 and previous versions will live side by side on the device. Only when new devices come along will we see ONLY 3.5 on a device.
This presents a number of problems, namely
• Users who deploy CF 3.5 to their device but use applications targeting older versions will not benefit from the 3.5 performance improvements
• Developers who develop apps for pre CF 3.5 frameworks cannot easily test their applications ready for when 3.5 only devices come along
Thankfully, help is at hand in the form of a little known Compact Framework 3.5 powertoy named '.Net Configuration'. The application, which is available at Microsoft, provides the user with full granularity of control over the .net CF on their device. You can see installed versions, change the used CF version for a particular application or change the used CF version for all applications run on your device! Perfect!
Sadly in Microsoft's infinite wisdom the application in question is tucked away in simple EXE inside the 6.2MB download and somewhat hard to find, so i've taken the liberty of packaging it up into a CAB here that installs it with it's own Start Menu shortcut.
- Run '.Net Configuration' from your Start Menu
- Navigate to the 'Device Policy' tab and select version 3.5
- Select 'Apply' then 'OK'
That's it, you're done!
Thanks kindly but I'm guessing now that myself or a piece of software I've installed has borked my ability to install software. It seems I can install exe files but no cabs, including the one you posted will install.
As I've stated I have not made any attempts to unlock anything yet but have installed some software and made some registry tweaks. I wish I could see what exactly is happening like Procmon does for windows to pinpoint the problem, but I might just have to resort to a hard reset if I can't figure it out.
I'm open to any ideas but if I don't figure it out tonight I guess I'll reset tomorrow. Thanks for the guidance and help.
Cheers,
Eidolen
@eidolen
You have a SD card?
Gimme some time and I write you a little 101 how to deal with the Fuze.
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Thanks kindly but I'm guessing now that myself or a piece of software I've installed has borked my ability to install software. It seems I can install exe files but no cabs, including the one you posted will install.
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I did already change one registry policy key (0000101a) to "1" from a thread I found on these forums, as it is something easily changed back but of course it did not help.
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You might want to double-check that registry hack to make sure it's correct. Seems like a big coincidence that the one registry hack you've made so far is to allow unsigned cabs to install and the biggest problem you seem to be having is that you can't get unsigned cabs to install....
eidolen
You have a SD card?
Gimme some time and I write you a little 101 how to deal with the Fuze.
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I ordered my SD card yesterday =/ Hopefully be here soon. Still very interested in the 101 though!
You might want to double-check that registry hack to make sure it's correct. Seems like a big coincidence that the one registry hack you've made so far is to allow unsigned cabs to install and the biggest problem you seem to be having is that you can't get unsigned cabs to install....
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Yeah I gave that a shot but no joy. That wasn't the only reg hack I did but the only relating to "Unlocking". I haven't touched anything I wasn't pretty sure about. For instance I have looked at all the tweaks for speeding up the TF3D using cache setting but the numbers don't match so I never tried it. If I didn't understand what the tweak was I stayed away.
I did the PTT button tweak for voice/camera and played around with the cities for the weather app. Other than that I can't think of anything else I touched in the registry but I did a lot of looking.
On the other hand I have installed a good bit of software to try out. I have also rearranged my menu items by deleting shortcuts in the start menu folder. Even though I've done a good bit to the phone I think it might be best to start from scratch with a hard reset and start again with the knowledge I've gained in the past few days. My Opera browser has been getting a real workout with 40+ tabs going =P
I did find another thread here that has someone with a similar problem but the way it happened was entirely different. His fix was to wipe the phone and use the same software I was trying to install when I found this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3038792#post3038792
I took ecltech's advice and got Sprite Backup and made a backup already. I would rather fix the problem but it sounds like it might be difficult tracking it down so I'm prepared to start again. What would be great is finding some guide or general direction in what programs and or tweaks I should install and in what order and any other pertinent information regarding starting from scratch. "The Must Have" utilities and programs.
I can't believe how helpful everyone's been so far considering this is a developers board. I figured it was worth the risk to get chewed in the hopes of getting the best advice. With all the info surfing I've been doing it's clear that this is the site where it all happens.
Cheers and thanks again,
Eidolen
OMG!
I'm almost too afraid to admit it but at least I feel good that I figured it out on my own. I was smart enough to make a backup of the registry with CeRedEditor before doing anything major and remembered it had a compare feature. After loading it up It immediately occurred to me to look at HKCR\cabfile and that's where I found my answer.
I had downloaded a little free utility from SKTools called Cabinstaller that allows you to choose where programs get installed. Somehow the registry entry it made didn't correctly point to the executable. In any case I think I installed it late the other night and forgot about it because the exe files I installed after that installed fine. I should have tested it immediately and I wouldn't have had this problem. /sigh
Thank you everyone for the help and ideas and even though I've fixed this problem I still might do a full reset and start from scratch now that I got all mentally prepared to do it and start over feeling a little more confident in what I'm doing.
While it's on my mind right now and since I never got a solution for the question in my first post, is there a hack or small little program that will allow you to put a shortcut in either the top bar where the start menu is or in the bottom where the shortcut for the on screen keyboard is so I can invoke the Task Manager easily to help with navigating? I wouldn't even be opposed to a shortcut in the TF3D pop-up you get when clicking on the top right bar. It would be great if this could be done with a bloated program but not opposed to it if the program is useful.
Thanks again everyone. I guess I'll start a new post for any new questions. (I have lots but will try and figure out as much as I can by myself first.)
Cheers,
Eidolen
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I took ecltech's advice and got Sprite Backup and made a backup already. I would rather fix the problem but it sounds like it might be difficult tracking it down so I'm prepared to start again. What would be great is finding some guide or general direction in what programs and or tweaks I should install and in what order and any other pertinent information regarding starting from scratch. "The Must Have" utilities and programs.
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I think you're probably right about starting again from scratch. It would probably be less work than tracking down what's causing your problem and then you'll be starting with a cleaner slate for installing everything going forward.
There are a few different threads on here about what constitutes "must have" apps for the Fuze and the one thing I can say is that no two people agree on the list! Your best bet is to seach out those threads and see which ones you think would be most useful to you. A great place to get started is at http://www.blownfuze.org using username and password 'xda' (without the quotes)
My suggestions for the generic must haves are:
Total Commander
PHM Registry Editor (or whichever reg editor you prefer)
Diamond Tweak
Diamond TF3D Config
Other basic programs that might be worth checking out depending on what you do on your fuze are:
PocketShield or S2U2 for locking the phone
TCPMP Core Media Player
TorchButton for using the LED flash as a flashlight
BeyondPod or pRSS Reader for RSS feeds and podcasts
GoogleMaps and/or Live Search
Good luck!
Sprite backup is included in your Fuze as original software. I always keep a full backup copy on my Sd card of a good clean WM 6.1 install with all the must have tweaks done already. You will find it saves alot of headaches when you mess something up trying things out. After that I do a weekly backup as I add more and more stuff over time.
does diamond TF3D Config or diamond tweak work with this ROM version?
Thanks yzf750, I am preparing to do just that. I am getting prepared for a hard reset now once I notate what I want to keep that's on my phone already. Hopefully I can get it set up by the time my SD card arrives this coming week and can do the backup to it for keeps.
I read a blog post about doing a soft reset after a hard reset to prevent the ATT software from installing and I think I really want to try that. I just need to make sure I install the stuff I want to keep like TF3D manually afterwards. I'm hoping to find a more detailed guide for the procedure than what was posted though.
I'll post back and report if the smoke genie escapes or not.
Eidolen
some n00b guidance
Ok so i have been looking at these forums for a few days now doing homework before i even get the phone(its ordered). So my questions are
1. if i have AT&T unlock the phone(i know someone who works there so i hope they can help out) do i still need to do the hardspl to change radios etc?
2. Whats really the difference between all these roms built by users and just using BuildOS(im assuming this works on GSM phones and not just CDMA because its from PPC) to build your own ROM? and do most of these tweeks come prebuilt into these roms or do u still need to to other stuff? i.e reg tweaks etc, like i think it would be better for me to just build a rom with BuildOS with the apps i want etc and not keep flashing all the time
3. Is GPS still a problem for people?, i think ill just use tomtom or garmin and hope for the best as its not a huge concern. After looking around i guess its just a matter of finding the radio that works best for the individual, so anyone in the .US new england area have any recommendations of the best radio in the northeast like NYC area?
4. whats a good order to do this stuff?, i plan on using the phone for a couple days or so as stock just to get the general feel of the OS in general. then prolly flash the ROM with a custom BuildOS ROM(unless someone can provide the difference between BuildOS and say PROven ROM), then do w.e else needs to be done. ive seen the recommeded tweaks, just not sure if they still need to be done with a flashed ROM. not really looking for a game phone more office apps like RDP and irc etc, sys admin tools
Basically i think theres just a ton of info on here which is a good thing but im just getting started on Winmo although flashing etc dosent intimidate me so im eager to get started just a little unclear on some things and cant seem to find the answer just surfing, so any help or links to some stuff i might have missed is appreciated. Pretty much just want a smooth runnin ROM thats not stock of course, decent gps reception and the apps i want. thanks all
Look here, I made a little write-up for the basics using a stock ATT ROM. I ran this routine actually twice on my phone (ROM flashing junkie) so it should be fairly complete.
I have to note that, in most cases at least, I know what I do and can "recover" from a ROM flash within ~ 30 minutes, having all software, tweaks and contacts restored.
Regarding ROMs
That's an open can of worms with two next to it waiting. Read the threads and read the problems and decide later if you want to flash or not. If you are not used to WinMo phones it's perhaps better to hold back a week or two.
Some ROMs are built from original Raphael builts others are based on WinMo 6.1 but contain partially applications and tweaks from other HTC devices. The latest build # need not to be the best. For example RRE's ROM is based on the original ATT ROM and he created a really nice good performing ROM while other Chefs rip out first all guts and basics of a ROM (making it "naked") adding features and programs later. That's a more or less political discussion what's better and what's not and you have to decide yourself based on what you read and/or experience. For MY part I know Monx/HT from the Tilt times and always appreciated his work and speedy ROMs and he continued the same line on the Raphael/Fuze though it took him some time to come where he is right now.
As said all political in that regards, almost all ROMs out there ARE GOOD and have advantages in the one or the other area.
Tweaks
Yes the tweaks work even for a stock ATT ROM with ATT's TouchFlo/Manila (though I think it's plain ugly).
GPS
Again a difficult subject. For example the stock GPS (enabled or disabled assisted GPS settings) works kinda well with google maps BUT doesn't perform as expected with 3rd party GPS apps (TomTom, iGO). Keep in mind a lot came from other devices and for example iGO on the Tilt rocked down to the street number with no lag at all where the Fuze is doing more "guesstimating" than performing (compared to the Tilt).
Backup
Do a PIM backup once or twice a week and do a FULL backup once a week or if you installed new software after you confirm that you like it. If you wreck your phone for whatever reason AND you stay with the SAME ROM a full restore will work.
Just Wow!
That's an impressive piece of work there. I haven't stopped reading or poking around while I'm waiting for my SD card to get here and had quite some experience today. I did read the thread regarding doing a "Non-Bloat" Install and actually started to do it but stopped when I realized there still seems to be some residual bugs to the process. I figured for now even with the little bit of confidence I've gained I'd wait on that a little longer.
I did jot some info down while it was still "Bloat-Free" for anyone interested:
Bloatfree Services:
App Service APP1:
USSD APP8:
Push to Talk PTT0:
EnlargeStartMenuEMX0:
HTC IMS service IMS0:
STK Service AP15:
LargeTitleBar AP21:
HtcServices HSV2:
Keypad KBD1:
Bluetooth Audio Gateway BAG0:
Software Disable Dialog Service SDD0:
Sync Bluetooth Server ASV0:
Software Management Service SWM0:
Certificate Enroll Engine CES0:
SNApi SNA0:
DPT DPY0:
LAS LAS0:
Credential Manager CRD0:
Notify NFY0:
OBEX OBX0:
Bluetooth HID Loader BHL0:
SqmUpload SQM0:
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Bloatfree Processes:
NK.exe
RegistryCSPTool.exe
OperaPreL.exe
poutlook.exe
sapsettings.exe
opera9.exe
htcimssvc.exe
tmail.exe
cecmd.exe <--Total Commander
conmgr.exe
TaskMgr.exe <--duh
rapiclnt.exe
repllog.exe <--activesync
biotouch.exe
shell32.exe
QuickGPS.exe
VoiceCMD.exe
SIPGT_app.exe
services.exe
filesys.exe
gwes.exe
manilla.exe
device.exe
cprog.exe
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I forgot to check the memory and storage readings sadly but I figured this list could be checked against the full bloat version to see what processes and services could be killed. I figured I'd play with a full working install so if anything didn't work I would know it was from myself or software I installed instead of guessing if it was a side effect of the no bloat process. Also I could learn what the bloat was and strip it away.
Once I decided on Bloat I started a Log/Diary of everything I did for my own reference and thought it might be useful for troubleshooting later. Everything was going smooth until I decided to take on the behemoth named RealVGA.
Luckily I made a full Sprite backup previous to playing with it and am reinstalling that backup as I write this.
If there is one piece of advice I could give from the little knowledge I've gained so far is that most of the upper-end hacks/tweaks software that is available are living breathing complex entities and are not to be taken lightly. Each one needs to be thoroughly researched and understood before using unless you have an older device that has been supported for a long time. I find very little information on using most software regarding the Fuze even though it is very similar to other devices. Truth is, it is not identical which can make things hairy at times. Anyway the more you fail, the more you learn.
For other Fuze owners out there I'll post my personal log so you have an idea what programs I had trouble with and what I tried to do to resolve them. For sure I had huge problems with RealVGA as well as PocketCM and PocketCm Keyboard. It's a shame too as they all are outstanding upgrades.
Well I think I'll be ready for your tutorial when my card gets here so I will be sure to report back to let you know how it went. I already learned a lot just from reading it. For one I didn't know you could do anything over usb if you cancelled the ActiveSync. I just used that trick while restoring my phone and still haven't done a sync. I'm sure that guide will be a huge help to many like myself.
Huge Thanks!
Eidolen
PHP:
Diary of a Blown Fuze (Blown Attempt that is)
Just a stream of consisnous, sorry if some doesn't make sense
Log got more vebose as I went.
"Fresh Bloated Install"
Boot
Set Weather City
Configure WiFi
Calibrate G-Sensor
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Memory:
Storage======Program
Total 294.53 || Total 200.99
In Use 74.05 || In Use 70.93
Free 220.48 || Free 130.06
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Turn off Auto Backlight - Adjusted Settings
Removed Programs - I Play Jewel
Configured all settings under "All Settings" tab
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Having keyboard problems where it is unresponsive. Had to use on-screen KB
to write user information. Also had KB lag a few times afterwards but not
as severe.
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SYNC (Merged 89 file items)
Install NETCFSetupv35.msi
Install netcfcfg.cab
Install tcmdpocketarm.cab
Configured .Net to use 3.5
Installed Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab
Create Sprite Backup "Fresh Install" ACT3.3 not config yet
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Phone supplied Sprite backup software reported "backing up 85mb" but when finished
the file is only 144kb! Not sure what happened. Will try to initiate
a backup from the desktop software.
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Initiated Full Desktop Version backup "Fresh Install 2 FULL" 93.03M
Ended with file size of 60.3M
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Configure Advanced Config Tool:
User Interface ->
Horizontal Icon Spacing: 150
Vertical Icon Spacing: 140
Icon title font size: 8
Popup Menu Font Size: 800
Power Management ->
All either default or "Advised" setting if applicable
Screen ->
Show Orientation: Yes (default)
Keyboard Backlight Timeout: 15sec
Suggested Words: 3
Network ->
Device friendly Name: #####
Phone ->
Show All Call History: Yes
Call History Clean: Never
Show Battery Icon: Yes
Show Band: Yes
Bluetooth ->
BT Device Name: #####
GPS ->
Logfile Size: 32K
Internet Explorer ->
4 Way Navigation: Disabled
Clear Type: Enabled
Search Page: Google
Max Connections Per Server: 8
Messaging ->
SMS Delivery Notification: Yes
Use Unicode Support: Yes
Symc Sent Items: Yes
Show Roaming: Yes
Calendar ->
Show Lunar: Yes
Show Events in Week View: Yes
Camera ->
Capture Key Delay: Enabled
Key Delay: Enabled
HTC Animation ->
Volume: 90
HTC Camera Album ->
OK Button: Close
Misc:
Auto Daylight Savings Switch: Yes
Show Daylight Savings Notification: Yes
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Noticed lots of options missing from last time I used this program before the hard reset like more font sizes among other things>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Sprite Resore "PIM_2008-12-13.exe" PIM info Only
Contacts Restored but no TF3D settings were retained
(No contacts in TF3D, Messages, etc..)
Set up both email accounts
Set Up online AB LDAP
Adjusted Camera Settings
Copied My Pictures,Notes, Ringtones, PTT shortcuts and other "Files" back to device using Sprite Explorer File=2008-12-14.exe
Extracted "Browser Favorites" From Sprite Explorer /System Settings 2008-12-14.exe
Hand Edit Opera.ini
Transferred Some opera files (wand.dat, cookies, images) using Sprite Explorer 2008-12-14.exe
Transferred a pantload of s/w to be installed
Installed Diamond_TF3D_Config_Setup_v0.6.7.cab
(Made speed adjustments and removed Worldcard and "Unknown" TAB. Also "Unlocked" Noticed program launcher shows a ton of empty entries.)
Install ResPack128dpi.ARM.CAB
Install ResPack96dpi.ARM.CAB
(Sprite backup crashed on reboot from ResPack96dpi.ARM.CAB)
InstallRealVGA_11.CAB
Install missing ipxxx.dll's and screen went black then rebooted
**** my Pants *chant* no-brick no-brick no-brick
Watched it reboot. Something crashed but then TF3D loaded with tiny fonts!! (128dpi)
Modified Menu Icon spacing for 4 in a row. (Want to tweak further if I keep RealVGA)
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HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\
Add New Key "IconConfig"
In there Add DWORD Value:
"HorizontalIconSpacing" Dec value="112"
"VerticalIconSpacing" Dec value="115"
"IconTitleFontSize" Dec value="6"
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Notice a small black band on TF3D screens at the bottom. Acts as part of the tabs
Total commander toggle icon bar does not fully open up.
Contact all people link does not work
Contacts from Start Menu does not Work
Phone does not work
Installed respack96outlookfix.cab and Changed to 96 DPI now contacts and phone works!!
Adding Contacts in TF3D very buggy, auto puts in a picture somehow and have to go back and change it.
NVM...It selects the pics I had assigned before the reset somehow. Cool!
On Screen Keyboards Very Borked (Only Partially Visiable) Trying PocketCM Keyboard for VGA *Crosses Fingers*
It works but no colors, just plain Gray *humph!*
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Config Fonts in Advanced config tool
UI ->
H Scroll Width: 25
V Scroll Width: 25
H Arrow Size: 32
V Arrow Size: 32
Icon Title Font Size: 16 (Was 6)
Menu Bar Font: Large
Popup Menu Font Size: Large
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Reset
Home TF3D Screen buggy, Tabs at bottom are doubled up. Clears when used to scroll but large black bar at bottom now
Wow! TF3D Communtications screen is really toast! It shows in upper left screen and at least it works but it's almost unreadable.
Not noticing any change in fonts so far
"All Settings" Won't Launch. Ouch!
Umm, System Locked up hard
Tried sliding keyboard and heard sound and title bars appreared but no luck, home and back not work either
It let me reboot with switch at least, not reset button
Tried Unticking "Disable Skin" in RealVGA
Reboot
"All Settings" Still Borked
reboot
Start Menu -> settings locks up too *cry*
Reboot!
Maybe result of font settings in ACT?
Might be time to do a restore =(
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Config Fonts in Advanced config tool
UI ->
H Scroll Width: 19
V Scroll Width: 19
H Arrow Size: 20 (default)
V Arrow Size: 20 (default)
Icon Title Font Size: 10 (Was 16)
Menu Bar Font: Large
Popup Menu Font Size: Large
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Reboot
RealVGA is nice but not sure it's worth this effort. Just too many problems.
Noticed graphics in TF3D are much slower and laggy now as well.
"All Settings" still borked Not sure what else to try at this point.
Good info on this subject is hard to come by. Most ppl seem to have good luck with this app.
Went to re-tick the skin option in RealVGA but it was still ticked. hmmm
What I think is needed is an app that could swap resolutions on the fly with a hotkey. ( Prolly not technically possible)
At least you could have normal usage and only use for certain apps that really benefit from it.
After another reboot the "Disable phone skin" is checked again. Guess it can't be unticked.
Un-ticked "No enlarge title Bar" in Diamond TF3D Config
I am able to open the "Programs" link from the start menu, wonder why settings is screwed.
Tried settings again, no joy, was able to use home key though this time. Not locked up.
Start menu does not work now though. Yikes, had to use reset this time.
Throws arms in the air!
Hard Reset =(
You are funny eidolen.
If you want copy the files I provided to your device (since you don't have a DS yet) and play with it.
You'll hard reset anyway when the SD arrives - LOL
Your also going to find at some point that the more and more tweaks and modifications you make,more problems will start sufacing. I was a rom flashing junkie like many on this forum for 2 years. Since I replaced my prior phone with the Fuze I am running just the stock rom without bloatware and a FEW select tweaks (includes radio change). It runs fast, works good and I dont have to soft reset it all the time.
Take a look at every custom rom, Im not putting any of them down, but after time the threads on them become 100 plus pages long, the number of other fixes to get them running right become impossible to keep track of. It becomes a daily job of just trying to keep that rom working without breaking some other feature or getting it to work right. They put out weekly fixes on most custom roms. They start out with the right intention, but it soon becomes just a bloated non oem rom after time.
Its addicting and fun, but at some point a person just wants to use the phone instead of hard resetting it all the time, flashing roms nightly and trying to figure out how to fix stuff in each rom.
I reached that point now and my fuze is outstanding without having to spend days tinkering with it. It is snappy, reponsive and ALL the software I have installed on it works, and the GPS works flawlessly even inside my house.
But again, your "hands on" approch as your doing now, is probaly the best way to learn
teh bestest
between these last few posts and my little chat with our neighbors PPC on there irc channel i am pretty confident i know what the deal is now, you guys have been a great help, i think im going to play a bit with some roms of course but eventually land on a bloat free standard rom with some added apps like putty and irc etc for sysadmin work, on that note yzf750 could u tell me exactally what u have running on yours sounds like its what im looking for.

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